“A 16-year-old girl was raped by a man in front of her family on the orders of the village council as a punishment after her brother was accused of raping the man’s sister”. Pakistan continues to deteriorate under the horrors and barbarity of sharia. It is unimaginable that anyone who cares about human rights — especially self-declared feminists — can continue to turn a blind eye to the plight of women in such areas.
Although there were arrests, Pakistan is notorious for its double game, on one hand trying to give the appearance of fighting jihad terror, while also behaving as an “untrustworthy ally.” Yet at the grassroots level, it is becoming increasingly difficult for anyone who does not practice “orthodox Sunni Islam”:
The toxic religious atmosphere in Pakistan can’t be blamed entirely on jihadis on the periphery of society…..In recent years in government-approved schools, students are using textbooks that teach hostility towards all forms of thought and expression – except orthodox Sunni Islam.
“Girl raped in front of family on order of panchayat in Pakistan”, Zee News (thanks to The Religion of Peace), July 26, 2017:
Lahore: A 16-year-old girl was raped by a man in front of her family on the orders of the village council as a punishment after her brother was accused of raping the man’s sister in Pakistan’s Punjab province, police said on Wednesday.
Police have arrested 20 people after the incident that took place on July 18 in Rajpur village in Muzaffarabad in the province, Multan division police chief Ahsan Younis said.
“We have arrested 20 people including the head of the village council for ordering rape of the sister of Umer Wadda of Rajpur village,” Younis told PTI.
He said Wadda was accused of raping the teenage sister of Ashfaq of his locality on July 16.
“The matter was brought to the village council that unanimously ordered the rape of Wadda’s sister by Ashfaq. The Wadda’s family protested over the decision but it was told that justice could only be done if the same act was repeated with the accused’s sister,” he said.
Younis said the police sprang into action when the victim’s family reported the matter to it two days ago.
“The victim family did not report the matter until last Monday. We have registered separate FIRs against Ashfaq and over 30 village council members, and Wadda,” he said, adding that the police was investigating all aspects of the case.
“We are also investigating whether the sister of Wadda was raped in front of her parents and the brother (which is the claim of the Wadda family),” he said.
He added that the station house officer of Muzafarabad police has become a complainant in the case so that both parties cannot reach a compromise and withdraw the FIRs against each other.
It is the same district where in early 2000 Mukhtaran Mai was raped on the order of the village council, triggering an international outrage.
Rights activist and former Supreme Court Bar Association Asma Jehangir said a number of such cases are not reported….
J_not_a says
And this despicable act is what passes for “justice” in sharia-compliant Pak, land of the pure”. Pure evil and filth is much more accurate. Dirty, disgusting, depraved beasts. No low is too low for these muzzlum monsters. Their punishment from the True God is coming and there will be no place for them to hide.
OVERTURNED BY HI says
muslims behaving just like their demon possessed pedophile false prophet
mortimer says
Where are the denunciations from all the TOP MULLAHS or all the top PROFESSORS OF SHARIA LAW ?
They are silent. They all know that Islam is HOPELESSLY BACKWARD, STUCK in the 7th CENTURY and CANNOT BE REFORMED. Moreover, the mullahs and professors of Islamic studies all know better than anyone, that their lives will worthless and short after they speak out against NORMATIVE Sharia law punishments.
ISLAMIC BARBARITY CANNOT BE REFORMED, because that is the SUNNA–the sacred example–of Mohammed, the supposedly ‘perfect man’. RAPE is the SUNNA of MOHAMMED and enshrined in Koran 4.23.24.
moeped says
Bring them to the West for diversity and cultural enrichment.
PRCS says
The Mukhtaran Mai incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukht%C4%81r_M%C4%81%27%C4%AB
Kay says
Thanks for this link.
gravenimage says
Yes–I was going to cite that case as well, PRCS. This is not the first time a Jirga Counsel has mandated that a girl be raped for her brother’s crime. In this case, he had just spoken with a girl from a higher social strata.
Custos Custodum says
Without, of course, remotely condoning this kind of barbarity, we in the West must work hard to understand (again, without condoning) at a deeper level what is happening here, and be prepared the counter the implied logic.
First of all, it is quite likely that these types of collective punishment developed in places like Pakistan because they are seen to some extent as EFFECTIVE deterrents to inter-clan rape which in turn often triggers blood feuds.
In a male-centered society, the primary intention is to humiliate the men of the alleged perpetrator’s familly/clan to the greatest possible extent by raping “their” womenfolk in their presence, thus showing the men of the “punished” clan up as powerless to prevent the greatest humiliation of their clan’s honor. In the minds of the “punishing” perpetrators, the humiliation of the woman herself is icing on the cake to the perpetrator of this punitive action.
Given that the form of punishment is probably to some extent effective to prevent inter-clan rape (in a society where rape is already “sacralized,” as gravenimage astutely observed), we in the West must be clear exactly WHY we find this procedure so abhorrent.
The answer is because collective punishment in general is barbaric and has no place in a civilized society. We consider it axiomatic that only the perpetrator of a criminal act should be punished.
Outside traditional criminal law, there ARE certainly cases where some form of collective punishment may have to be resorted to, but in the West we are keenly aware of the unavoidable injustice inherent in punishing non-perpetrators. At the same time, we recognize that non-perpetrators often play a crucial role in the criminal ecosystem, e.g. as “accessories after the fact,” fences buying stolen property, etc.
In extreme situations, the principle that innocent non-perpetrators should not be punished may need to give way to other considerations. For example, organized terrorists by definition act as an organization, and benefit from the support of the organization. To fight such organizations effectively, it may be quite appropriate e.g. to make it a criminal offence to be a passive member of the organization, to stay married to a known perpetrator, to give money to or accept money from a perpetrator, etc.
War is an extreme example of collective responsibility. Typically, an entire nation or group of nations is punished – quite intentionally – for the acts of a very small number of organized individuals, e.g. in invading another country’s territory.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER? The totalitarian Left has been working very hard and very smart to take us back to the age of “group rights,” “group identity,” etc. “Hate crime” laws in substance punish an act much more severely because it is perpetrated against a member of a specific other group.
Conversely, many acts up to and including murder are excused by the totalitarian Left when perpetrated by members of privileged groups.
CONCLUSION: In the West, we refrain from collective punishment in criminal cases NOT because it is not effective, but because it is BARBAROUS in every sense.
We in the West reject collective punishment in our criminal law NOT because it is an “alien” custom in a far-away country, but because it is all too familiar in the West’s own history, and was only overcome after centuries of intellectual and social struggle.
gravenimage says
Custos Custodum wrote:
Without, of course, remotely condoning this kind of barbarity, we in the West must work hard to understand (again, without condoning) at a deeper level what is happening here, and be prepared the counter the implied logic.
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Custos, Islam is not about logic. In fact, Islam rejects reason and logic–as well as most decency.
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First of all, it is quite likely that these types of collective punishment developed in places like Pakistan because they are seen to some extent as EFFECTIVE deterrents to inter-clan rape which in turn often triggers blood feuds.
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With the greatest respect, Custos, I don’t believe that the purpose of sentencing a blameless victim to be raped is the prevention of rape.
If anything, it is intended to prevent anyone from demanding any justice for the crime of rape.
But yes–sentences like this probably prevent full-scale tribal wars in barbaric places like Pakistan.
Of course, a more civilized place would not pander to such savagery.
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In a male-centered society, the primary intention is to humiliate the men of the alleged perpetrator’s familly/clan to the greatest possible extent by raping “their” womenfolk in their presence, thus showing the men of the “punished” clan up as powerless to prevent the greatest humiliation of their clan’s honor. In the minds of the “punishing” perpetrators, the humiliation of the woman herself is icing on the cake to the perpetrator of this punitive action.
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This is true. As I noted, the upshot of this will likely be the brothers both “Honor Killing” their own sisters for the “crime” of having been raped.
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Given that the form of punishment is probably to some extent effective to prevent inter-clan rape (in a society where rape is already “sacralized,” as gravenimage astutely observed), we in the West must be clear exactly WHY we find this procedure so abhorrent.
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I don’t think pious Muslims care why we find their savage customs so barbaric. If we oppose such horrors as child “marriage” and stoning rape victims to death, Muslims just see this as confirmation that we are un-Islamic.
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The answer is because collective punishment in general is barbaric and has no place in a civilized society. We consider it axiomatic that only the perpetrator of a criminal act should be punished.
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Exactly, Custos. But there is little sense of the rights of the individual in Islam.
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Outside traditional criminal law, there ARE certainly cases where some form of collective punishment may have to be resorted to, but in the West we are keenly aware of the unavoidable injustice inherent in punishing non-perpetrators. At the same time, we recognize that non-perpetrators often play a crucial role in the criminal ecosystem, e.g. as “accessories after the fact,” fences buying stolen property, etc.
In extreme situations, the principle that innocent non-perpetrators should not be punished may need to give way to other considerations. For example, organized terrorists by definition act as an organization, and benefit from the support of the organization. To fight such organizations effectively, it may be quite appropriate e.g. to make it a criminal offence to be a passive member of the organization, to stay married to a known perpetrator, to give money to or accept money from a perpetrator, etc.
War is an extreme example of collective responsibility. Typically, an entire nation or group of nations is punished – quite intentionally – for the acts of a very small number of organized individuals, e.g. in invading another country’s territory.
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Sure–but we in the civilized West consider this deeply unfortunate, and only to be used as a last resort. Also, as soon as the threat is over–as soon as an aggressive state surrenders, for instance–we stop collective defensive measures.
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WHY DOES THIS MATTER? The totalitarian Left has been working very hard and very smart to take us back to the age of “group rights,” “group identity,” etc. “Hate crime” laws in substance punish an act much more severely because it is perpetrated against a member of a specific other group.
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Spot on, Custos.
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Conversely, many acts up to and including murder are excused by the totalitarian Left when perpetrated by members of privileged groups.
CONCLUSION: In the West, we refrain from collective punishment in criminal cases NOT because it is not effective, but because it is BARBAROUS in every sense.
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Yes–it also depends on our aims. Save in the case of a group violently attacking us, we in the civilized West have few collectivist goals.
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We in the West reject collective punishment in our criminal law NOT because it is an “alien” custom in a far-away country, but because it is all too familiar in the West’s own history, and was only overcome after centuries of intellectual and social struggle.
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True–although there were at least the kernels of individualism and individual rights dating as far back as Christianity and Greek philosophers like Aristotle.
Thanks for an erudite and thought-provoking post, Custos.
Custos Custodum says
gravenimage,
Thanks for thoughtful responses and kind words.
I should have made clearer that for once, I was mainly trying to work at a deeper understanding of OUR OWN thinking and traditions, not so much those of Islam. As George Orwell has reminded us, to see what is in front of our nose takes constant struggle, and it is hard to remind oneself that one is wet when one is a fish.
A huge problem in dealing with Islam from a Western point of view is that we do not understand our weaknesses. A major weakness is tolerance of groups of malicious actors in high places and of TREASON to our values. In some, this is cold psychopathy aimed at gaining power and other advantages for themselves. In other traitors, one senses a strange, sado-masochist sexual component. This type of treason is much more insidious than traditional greed or revenge-driving selling out of one’s country for 30 pieces of silver.)
The vast majority of people in the West – even those otherwise educated – are given to the illusion that we can just ditch Western tradition, and instead simply agree to be “nice to each other.” This is a fatal delusion – niceness does not come spontaneously to societies, and dies quickly unless it has deep roots in Christianity and broader Western thought.
I think we are on the same page on the substance, except perhaps about an empirical point: I do think the Pakistani tribes (and those in Afghanistan) genuinely wish to minimize incidents of inter-clan rape. They are genuinely protective of their women just as they would of their cattle. That they themselves may maltreat their “property” is not inconsistent with this.
Kay says
Absolutely horrible that a system demands a crime against an innocent person as a way to further justice.
ElderlyZionist says
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth…an orifice for an orifice? If that’s justice, they should have raped the rapist. Maybe he smelled exceptionally bad, or was hairy to a scary degree.
Carolyne says
No, I don’t think so. The smellier, the dirtier, the hairier, the more they like it–and that’s just describing the women.
Westman says
Someone should ask Tayyip Erdogan if this is his, “Islam is Islam”.
marina says
Is Linda cockroach aware of this incidence!
J_not_a says
She’d find some twisted way to excuse and justify it. That’s what these muzzscums do, defend the indefensible, like their “perfect man(iac)” moohamhead.
TheBuffster says
Wait a minute… this doesn’t sound like Sharia to me. First of all, were there four male witnesses to the rape of which the guy was accused? Did they go ahead and pass a sentence on him (well, on his poor sister) without those 4 witnesses? Because I doubt you’re ever going to get four witnesses. At least not unless it’s a freakin’ council-ordered rape….
I’m not aware of anything in Sharia that allows a rapist’s sister to be raped in return. Is there such a law in Sharia, or is this some tribal thing apart from Islam?
True, the savage mindset that the usual Sharia laws instill in those who accept them isn’t a very good discouragement to such primitive, idiotic ideas of “justice”.
Magali Marc says
I agree with you. I remember concerning the rape of Mukhtaran Mai in 2000 in the same district, the imam of the village opposed it and said it wasn’t the law of Islam.
These are tribal practices of barbarian converts that have been tolerated by the invading Muslims.
gravenimage says
Actually, punishing women *is* mainstream Islam.
I have never heard that the village Imam opposed having her raped. If he did, it was basic personal decency, not the vicious creed of Islam.
faraway says
Women are seen as property of men to be used in any way that suits them even to obtain revenge.To quote Winston Churchill:’the fact that in islamic law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property-either as a child,a wife or a concubine-must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of islam has ceased to be a great power among men’.Even then he realised that the problem is islam,not an extremist version of it.
J_not_a says
Don’t these savages make up this sh!t on the fly? Whatever is not forbidden is permitted and all that shizz?
gravenimage says
True, faraway.
utis says
As long as they kill apostates and kuffar, sharia allows the tribals some slack. The funny thing is, this practice is straight out of Hammurabi’s code: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, though I don’t know if the code allowed a raped sister for a raped sister. But it is funny that local sharia permits a custom identical to pagan law principles; I thought Mohammad was touchy about muslims imitating infidels in any way.
Manny says
Outrageous. Women aren’t even as worthy as animals there. I’m at a loss for words. How anyone would think this is justice is astonishing. Women have to count for nothing in order to think this approximates justice.
utis says
I wonder how the SJW’s feel about this glowing example of muslim justice. Well, kiddies, it’s coming to a city near you any day, if the U.S. authorities haven’t covered it up — just like honor killing and FGM. Enjoy the new, improved, post-modern justice!
gravenimage says
Pakistan: girl raped in front of family for brother’s alleged crime
“A 16-year-old girl was raped by a man in front of her family on the orders of the village council as a punishment after her brother was accused of raping the man’s sister”.
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*This* is what passes for “justice” in Dar-al-Islam–and this is not the first time this has happened in Pakistan.
Every so often someone here will hold forth on how we are all mistaken and Islam punishes rape. Yeah–here they are “punishing rape” by sentencing another victim to rape.
And what will happen to the two poor rape victims? They will probably both be murdered by their rapist brothers for having committed “Zina”.
I have no words for how much I loathe Islam.
Dalapetus says
In front of the family?
If this is what we’re to expect from the religion of peace then I’m afraid we’re doomed.
I’m not suggesting for one minute that the West doesn’t have it’s share of monsters & deviates but this “lesson” is one that doesn’t need to be learned.
Anne Smith says
It is utterly disgraceful that our UK Government is continuing to send millions of pounds of British taxpayers money annually to this backward disgusting country, whilst their own people cannot get care for the elderly or places in hospitals.
It seems our Government – led by Sharia May – would rather reward this sort of barbarity than look after their own people.
If only we could vote the whole lot out.
Carolyne says
I read yesterday that the US is withholding the last $50 million to Pakistan which was due last year because Pakistan has failed to fight terrorism. Pakistan and any other Muslim country should not get one penny from us. They are all barbarian and are against us. Their favorite slogan “Death to America” is not just a slogan.
gravenimage says
Excellent news, Carolyne. I hope Trump cuts off all of this Jizya.
abad says
Further proof that Islam is anti-female to its very core.
Barbarians