Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.
The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
Until the encouragement Islamic law gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted, more women will suffer.
“Relatives kill teenage girl for ‘honour’ on tribal jirga’s orders in Khyber Agency,” by Abdullah Malik, Dawn, June 30, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A teenage girl was reportedly murdered by her relatives allegedly on the orders of a tribal jirga in Khyber Agency on Friday, in what the local political administration said was a case of ‘honour’ killing.
The jirga had issued the orders to kill 13-year-old Naghma after it emerged that she had allegedly attempted to run away with two young men, an official said.
After she allegedly ran away with them, the boys abandoned Naghma during the journey “out of fear”. She was later taken into custody by the security forces and released on bail upon assurance by the girl’s relatives that they would not kill her, Assistant Political Agent Niaz Mohammad told local reporters.
However, despite their assurances, Naghma’s relatives shot her dead three days later inside a house in Landi Kotal tehsil and silently buried her body in a local graveyard….
Meanwhile, a journalist belonging to Khyber Agency claimed that the two boys who allegedly ran away with the girl are in the custody of the same jirga. He claimed that the boys’ relatives will make every effort to secure their freedom, but it is possible that they too will be killed on the jirga’s orders….
Hundreds of women are murdered every year in Pakistan, often by their own relatives, for going against their families’ wishes in matters of love and marriage.
The perpetrators of so-called honour killings often walk free because they can seek forgiveness for the crime from another family member.
The Aurat Foundation’s annual report of 2016 showed 7,852 cases of violence against women.
According to Saima Munir, who works for the Aurat Foundation, there has been a 70 per cent increase in honour killings in the past year.
mortimer says
Only the most heartless Western ideologue can ignore this story. To them I say, “What if this were your daughter or relative? Would you look the other way? Do you think this is merely “cultural” … and not a matter of basic, universal human rights?”
Honor killing is a part of Sharia law, so wherever there are Muslims, there WILL BE HONOR KILLINGS.
Mrs Celine S Colling says
ALL CREED’S WHETHER Jewish, Baptist, Buddhism, Hinduism, Roman Catholics, Protestant or MUSLIMS. They are very Religious Tribe different but not unlike the Sioux, Crow, Blackfoot Individual but always at War nevertheless. We can not Judge what we do not understand. The LORD has many name’s & many faces so which one are YOU?
ripp846 says
I’m the one who WON’T condone the killing of a young girl for her Father’s “honor”.
Sons of Liberty says
Exactly , I agree.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
PRCS says
Not condoning such acts carries significantly less weight than condemning it.
somehistory says
Your comment reads like YOU do *condone* the murder of this child and the others who are also murdered.
The One True God does not condone it or accept it as part of worship of Him.
The One True God says the blood of the innocent cry out to Him from the ground. He will answer that cry.
We don’t know exactly when, but we do know that, for a certainty, He will. We have His Word on it.
gravenimage says
+1
john spielman says
ms collings – you are completely deceived by allah the “”god” of this fallen world- as the Bible calls him – allah is without question Satan and muhammed was a reprobate filthy demon possessed mass murderer thief liar and pedophile false prophet!
to suggest that God who is righteous and Just and MERCIFUL would condone the killing of a 13y/o run away – is evil and shows your deep deception! Read John 8 “LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE”
Donald R Laster Jr says
The word “allah” is a contraction of two Arabic words and when translated is “the god”. It is not a name. The god of Islam is Hubal the chief god of the Arabic pantheon around 360 gods and is associated with the moon. Another name for Hubal is Baal. Islam has no association with Judaism or Christianity. While Mohammad tried to pretend his god was Jehovah and Christ was simply a prophet Mohammad was rejected. It is important to know and use correct terms and names.
PRCS says
DRL,
Yes, Islam does have an association with Judaism and Christianity: Plagiarism.
And Muhammad’s pretense was rejected—until he went to Medina.
David Cameron says
Spoken like a true brain dead politically correct zombie.
David Cameron says
I’m referring to Celine Collings post.
Sons of Liberty says
Mrs. Celine S Colling,…You are defending this barbaric, evil ideology ? You should be ashamed of yourself defending the killing a young girl ! Why ,..because some Islamic code says she should die ? Jesus Christ taught us to love one another and for you to say what you said about Christians or Jews …is a flat out lie. You better hope you never have to live under that evil ideology …called ISLAM.
gravenimage says
The sickening Mrs Celine S Colling wrote:
ALL CREED’S WHETHER Jewish, Baptist, Buddhism, Hinduism, Roman Catholics, Protestant or MUSLIMS. They are very Religious Tribe different but not unlike the Sioux, Crow, Blackfoot Individual but always at War nevertheless. We can not Judge what we do not understand. The LORD has many name’s & many faces so which one are YOU?
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The idea that Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and Native Americans are regularly murdering their own children on religious grounds is just grotesque calumny.
And the implication that God *wants* parents to murder their children is also repulsive.
Further, the implication that we only oppose such atrocities because we don’t understand Islam is disgusting. We understand that this and other horrors are what Islam *teaches*, and hence we oppose it.
Phil Copson says
1. “ALL CREED’S WHETHER Jewish, Baptist, Buddhism, Hinduism, Roman Catholics, Protestant or MUSLIMS.”
This is not a sentence – what is it actually supposed to mean, if anything ?
2. “We can not Judge what we do not understand.”
Any human-being anywhere (with the possible exception of Mrs Celine S.Colling) understands that murdering others on a whim is plain wrong – no further understanding is required.
3. “The LORD has many name’s & many faces…….”
Why are you bringing “The LORD” into it ? You plainly don’t believe in Christian – or even humanist – values, so don’t attempt to hide your brutal, uncaring nature by waving the Bible around.
4. “which one are YOU?”
You are the one who thinks that people should be allowed to go around murdering others, as long as they can dream up an ostensibly faith-based reason for doing it.
This is actually a very fortunate circumstance, as I have just converted and become an Aztec. To mark the occasion, I will be having a barbecue and inviting the neighbours round to admire my eagle-feathers head-dress, magnificent copper-toned phyique etc. The trouble is, living in England as I do, I can never be entirely certain that the sun will rise, and I really don’t want my guests to be stumbling around in the darkness and possibly burning their fingers on unseen sizzling sausages etc.
I feel that what is really required at this stage is a human sacrifice so that we can all relax in the knowledge that the sun will rise as usual, and get on with deciding how much coleslaw to fetch from the supermarket, and which Pink Floyd album to play first.
Celine love, can I rely on you to pop round about 3.30 ? I’ll introduce you to Roger and Helen from number 32, and you’re very welcome to a canape or two, and then I’ll get you safely lashed down across a stone altar I’ve installed in the back-garden next to the ornamental bird-bath.
After that – well, I’m simply dying to show you the stone-dagger I’ve made out of bit of obsydian I got from the garden-centre…. it polished up really well on the belt-sander and I’ve got quite a good edge on it too. For authenticity, I should really be sedating you first with a powerful jungle-based South American narcotic and wearing a jaguar-mask, but I’m afraid I’m a bit new to this sort of thing; I wonder if you’d be happy to settle for a glass of the vicar’s wife’s excellent home-made dandelion-and-burdock cordial, and the chap next door has a small ginger cat that can be quite intimidating ? You would ? Excellent….so if you’ll just keep still then please, Celine…..I’ll cut your chest open and pull your still-beating heart out and hold it up to general admiration to make sure that the sun-chariot races through the heavens and Apollo’s spendour shines forth upon my modest scene of sausage, steak and savagery in a suburban setting …….after all, one religion’s as good as another, isn’t it ?
Phil Copson says
Typos: “spendour” should be “splendour”, of course, and earlier it should have read ” A bit of obsydian…”
Jack Dawkins says
Monte Python could do no better.
Thank you for that comic relief.
gravenimage says
Great post, Phil.
Carolyne says
I was going to post an answer to Mrs. Colling’s ridiculous post, particularly the first sentence which is incomplete and cannot be deciphered, but Phil Copson has answered it far better than I could have. I am not up-to-date on your Aztec customs, Mr. Copson, but I take it when you say, “Come for dinner” you really mean it. Happy Fourth of July but leave that cat alone. Whatever you do with your human sacrifice is up to you.
I have not recently heard of a Sioux vs Crow war, but I could just be behind in my reading.
Carolyne says
I apologize for wishing you a “Happy” Fourth of July, Mr. Copson as I understand it has some rather unpleasant connotations for you. “Happy Bastille Day” wouldn’t work either.
Just enjoy your neighborhood gathering with your guest of honor, the astute and soon to be honored,Celine.
Donald R Laster Jr says
The Sioux, Crow, Cherokee, Choctaw, and other distance relatives of mine, are at peace with each other to my knowledge. I don’t they have been at war with each other, or any one else, for more than a century.
gravenimage says
True, Don.
Phil Copson says
“Happy Fourth of July but leave that cat alone…..” – “I apologize for wishing you a “Happy” Fourth of July, Mr. Copson, as I understand it has some rather unpleasant connotations for you…… “
Dear Carolyne, Jack, GI and others,
Your words of approbation move me, and I hasten to reassure you that the small ginger cat suffered no lasting consequences from his Aztec adventure, and furthermore that no cats – be they never so small or ginger! – were harmed in the making of this paragraph. (In the matter of leaving cats well alone, I am fully in concurrence with the views expressed by Mr George Orwell in his monograph upon the subject : “Homage to Cat-alonia”….)
May I at once express my appreciation of the delicacy of your sentiments in resiling from your earlier misplaced – (but doubtless Well-Intended) – felicitations upon July the 4th – the Anniversary of The Unfortunate Events in Boston…..?
It may in turn interest you and others amongst your fellow countrymen and women to know that plans are even now afoot to ameliorate the Painful Memories that this date must inevitably occasion.
As you may readily guess, in my capacity as Chairman of the Local Allotment Association – and recent candidate in the local County Council Elections (defeated) – I am Not Without Influence in these matters, and it has recently occurred to me that there may well be a great number of our American friends who have come to regret the hasty and importunate actions of their fore-bears in casting-off the ties of kinship that existed between our 13 erstwhile colonies and the Glorious Empire of His Late Britannic Majesty King George the 3rd.
I have therefore drawn-up an Act of Forgiveness under which America – having seen the error of her ways! – will be re-admitted to The Commonwealth upon fulfilment of Certain Conditions* and I intend to petition Parliament to enact it forthwith. To garner support, the draft document and petition have been placed on display at our local newsagents, and I am in no doubt that the number of signatures will soon be well into double figures…
Once re-admittance has been successfully negotiated, some period of adjustment and re-integration will doubtless be necessary, but I am sure that with patience and goodwill, our recently-reunited American cousins will soon be gratefully giving up their Bel Airs, Rocket 88s, Model “T” Fords etc, together with such superfluities as the Superbowl, baseball-caps and chewing-gum, in favour of superior British attractions such as a really well-polished Hillman Super Minx, Crown Green Bowling, a smart trilby, and a paper-bag of Peppermint Lumps.
(The benign influence of such things upon the Development of the English Character can scarcely be over-stated; no young man brought up with a proper appreciation of the riparian relaxations so eloquently described in Kenneth Grahame’s “The Wind in the Willows”, or the pleasures of punting peacefully between Maidenhead and Pangbourne evoked so expertly in Jerome K. Jerome’s Victorian classic “Three Men in a Boat”, could possibly go on to commit the common Somalian mistake of interpreting “simply messing about in boats” as encompassing Piracy on the High Seas for instance, and almost nobody whose boating-career began within the gentle confines of that Paradise Upon Earth – that Other Eden – that soft-scented Shangri-La of the Middlesex suburbs – namely, Ruislip Lido – has gone on to became a member of the Barbary Corsairs, as I understand is frequently the case amongst young gentlemen of an Arabian persuasion ?)
*Conditions of Re-entry: Since coffee-drinking is a practice best suited to Frenchmen, socialists, life-study models and other persons of that sort, tea-drinking will be mandatory. (Hint – best results are achieved by using freshly boiled hot-water, rather than cold sea-water as trialled so unsuccessfully in Boston some years ago….)
2. As part of the US:UK re-integration process, New York will naturally be re-named “Little-Chiddingfold-upon-Sea” as suggested by the admirable Mr Harry Enfield.
(PS: The correct answer, of course, as to which Pink Floyd album should be played first at a barbecue – even one without any Aztec influence – is “Wish You Were Here”, to be followed by “Dark Side of The Moon”.
Later – as dusk falls – and subjects such as Robert Scorseses’s use of “Gimme Shelter” in no fewer than three of his films, together with the undying excellence of Mick Taylor’s guitar solo on The Rolling Stones cover of Robert Johnson’s “Love In Vain” have been thoroughly explored, and a mellow, more reflective mood takes hold, “Division Bell” should be played, and somewhere – maybe somewhere – in the soft and shadowed spaces between the otherness of animals and the inner-life of things, the echoes of a yet older song – one plucked upon the heart-strings of the world – may still be heard…..)
carol says
If you understand too well, then you probably ARE what you “understand”. We understand well enough and we also understand what is NOT acceptable in the twenty-first century and especially in Western lands.Just judge us as the flip side of the understanding coin.
Eva Reisenstein says
You are 100% correct however everyone says “they’re not all like that, and on and on we go. It is a disgrace and Western Society are fools for not realizing they have beven dupped.
I have tried over and over again but no one listens. They are going to have to find out the hard way. Very sad.
Daniel Triplett says
That this culture has 130 – 200 nuclear missiles aimed at non-believers is totally unacceptable.
It’s just a matter of time before either the nukes are stolen/sold, or a devout PM or insider engineer/missile officer decides to fast-track himself to Paradise and ignite the Apocalypse.
We must vaporize their arsenal today.
Westman says
It’s just a matter of time before the Pakistan-India nuclear war begins; most likely over Kashmir. We don’t need to do anything except stay out of the way. That these two arsenals would create nuclear winter is another fallacy. Radiation would be the big problem.
Daniel Triplett says
India — Pakistan is a powder keg.
Over the most trivial of matters, Pakistan threatens India with nuclear annihilation on a near weekly basis.
India no doubt has excellent Intel about the exact locations of the Pak arsenal.
Even though Kaffirs don’t recognize it, WWIII is in progress as we speak. The only side fighting it though are the animals who declared it 1400 years ago.
We’ve struggled with a conventional campaign for 16 years, spending over $6.5 Trillion, sacrificing over 6500 of our finest Patriots trying to control just 2 of the 57 OIC states, which are worse now than the day we first set foot there. It’s not working, and we’re losing the war. Dar al-Islam is WAY too big. We don’t have the time, military, gold, and especially the will to invade, conquer, and indefinitely occupy 57 Islamic sovereignties. Let’s get real.
This is a nuclear war now. We all must face this, and develop the stomach and will to win. Our enemy (Islam) has openly declared war on us. Its adherents are pointing a loaded gun at our head. We have plenty of justification to strike now, while we still hold the weapon advantage.
“Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth”
by Maj Daniel Triplett
https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e
Donald R Laster Jr says
And people don’t want to believe it. The people did not believe the National Socialist, another of the “Left’s” “Supremacy of the State” systems, when they stated what they were going to do.
Homer says
To “stay out of the way” would be an unforgivable act of cowardice and neglect of duty. Unlike in the past, this time all Western countries should stand with India, our natural ally.
Guest says
Yes, I like India a lot more than Pakistan. Though Hinduism isn’t too hot on human rights either
:(.
Carolyne says
Well, there is that “Untouchable” and the dreadful “Suttee” thing, but overall, if one must choose…….At least they are not trying to take over the world.
gravenimage says
Westman, surely you don’t consider India and the horror of Pakistan to be morally equivalent?
PRCS says
Islam is a written ideology. Its books are not our enemy. Muslims are.
Muslims who try their best to comply, and the Cafeteria Muslims who enable them.
Daniel Triplett says
You make a fair point: The Islamic ideas aren’t killing us; it’s the Muslims putting those ideas into action.
Although we can’t extinguish ideas, unless and until we criminalize the “practice or promotion” of the ideas in the Islamic source texts, this war well never end. Faster than cockroaches, Muslims will breed new generations of Kaffir-killing animals faster than we can track and kill them.
The Counter-jihad strategies Kaffirs have used for 1400 years have all failed, mainly because none considered the long-term strategic objective. Our forefathers have all allowed Islam to continue, unopposed with fallacious respect. How do we want the World to look in 200 years, and what must we do to make that happen? As the sole Superpower (for now), we have the resources, power, influence, and alliances to make that happen — and when I say “alliances,” I’m not speaking of the sham alliances with any Dar al-Islam state. I’m speaking mainly of Israel, India, China, and Russia (Kaffir nuke states with the balls to use them). Yes, the UK and France are our nuke-armed friends/allies too, but I doubt they’ll have the will to join the nuclear offensive required to win this war (I’d love to be wrong about that). So far though, their electorates continue putting dhimmi Islam supporters in charge, to the detriment of humanity.
[And before anyone jumps on my case about Putin’s appeasement remarks on Islam, keep in mind, Netanyahu makes similar remarks. Their neighborhoods look far different than ours, with a vastly larger Muslim population. Remarks and actions Putin and Netanyahu make don’t necessarily reflect their true feelings. If either one of them ALONE were to declare war on all Muslims, they’d have an instant existential civil war on their hands, with International Muslims flooding across their borders for the fight. When the time comes for Kaffirs to declare war on Islam and all Muslims, this must be done with the Kaffir Heads of State standing on a podium, articulating the War Declaration/Terms of Surrender in unison, TOGETHER.]
It’s time for a new (old) strategy. In recent history, the strategy our grandfathers used to defeat Nazi and Shinto adherents successfully and decisively accomplished the objective. I advocate we learn from their success, and use a strategy nearly identical to it.
The linked article here speaks of correctly identifying the enemy, “Ten Steps to End Jihad Against the West.”
The author makes some salient points, aside from the conventional military strategy he proposes for victory, already tried and doomed to fail, IMHO:
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2015/11/ten-steps-to-end-jihad-against-the-west/
HugoHackenbush says
See Raphael Patai’s “The Arab Mind” regarding this kind of behavior in honor based societies. These practices precede Islam but with the development of Islam took on religious sanction.
James says
If the Mafia, Yakuza and Triads are considered to be criminals for ordering, y’know, ‘hits’ – why is ordering a ‘hit’ that is AKA an “honour killing” not also considered to be a criminal act, and those who intend it, to be criminals ?
The weirdness of the kind of moral relativism that allows “honour kilings” while waxing indignant at the Mafia is like being on a caffeine high – it feels entirely unreal. Is this what political correctness has come to: clerical paedophilia is an unspeakable crime, and so is killing minors – but when Muslims do both, that is just their culture, and it is ‘racist’ to object ? Really ?
It seems to me that the West is being manoeuvred into trashing its sense of right and wrong, and its moral judgements, so that it can be hollowed out and made into the receptacle for whatever culture is able to fill up the resulting void. The failure of feminists, homosexuals, and churchmen to criticise Islam for its maltreatment of the very groups they are members of, is shocking. But they have no difficulty assailing the West.
Barry says
for what it truly is, the proper terminology is not ‘Honor Killing’…..It’s ‘Honor Murder’….which of course is an oxymoron…..much the same as today’s ‘unbiased journalism’, cable not news, et al along with ions of other post truth examples in our current epic of time….Horrific, just horrific the heart and mind-set of this barbaric pagan 6th century cult.
Tom says
The idiot that is our current Prime Minister in Canada, Justin Trudeau, has said that “honour killings should not be considered barbaric” … presumably because they are mostly a muslim cultural practice and he seems to have taken a REAL liking to Islam.
I cannot understand the type of mentality that would or could condone such barbarism and abuse of women and girls. But hey, Trudeau is also always saying how he is SUCH a feminist …… the logical mind boggles !!!
Stan Lee says
I doubt if the election process of Canada will see a more workable process than at present, where weight of populations in two areas, Quebec and Toronto dominate. The rest of Canada is hard-pressed to elect a conservative and I believe that is how a Justin Trudeau gained the seat of PM.
I have argued the point with Canadian citizens living nearby me in the USA. The formula in Canada results in the “popular vote” prevailing, and therefore a usual result IMHO.
As long as Trudeau-types are at the top of the Canadian political order, Islam will be allowed “Carte Blanche. ” PC” reigns supreme though there is an overdose of it.
Tom says
Actually the Liberal under Trudeau had the legalization of marijuhana as one of the keystones of their political platform and it was basically the potheads and millennials that voted for that, along with the women who were fooled by his good looks. THAT is how he won the election.
Eva Reisenstein says
Bingo, you hit the proverbial nail on the head. One thing you DID forget to mention is the busses that the liberal party rented busses, put muslims w false ID to vote in many areas in Ontario where he knew he would loose. No one talks about it now but was certainly a hot topic immediately after the election.
Keep fighting, but I think a lot of us are going to end up in jail for speaking against the status quo.
gravenimage says
Yes–repulsive apologia for evil from Trudeau.
James says
If abortion is OK, and “harvesting” the remains of embryos is OK, then defending the murder or abuse of young women is really no big deal. The West cannot defend its perversions, and not defend those allowed by Islam too. It has left itself with no consistent moral vision that allows it to reject those allowed by Islam.
Mac-101 says
Please follow up with the punishment of the boys. I’m surprised one of them didn’t have to marry her. Isn’t that what is forced by many Tribal Courts?
gravenimage says
Not if the bride has been “Honor Killed”.
Isabellathecrusader says
Ibrahim, got any comments on this one? Did Robert make it up?
Triston says
Honor killing or not, whether you agree with it or not; doesn’t matter. Every country has a code of law. You are obligated to follow it when residing within that country. I don’t believe in honor killings but I am not about to invade a country just to force our code of law upon them. If you don’t agree with that country’s laws it’s simple. Don’t go there. What I have a problem with is when guests of our country do not afford us the same respect. If you want to honor kill then fine. You can go back to whatever debris field that you call home and kill all you want there. Just don’t bring that way of life to our door step. This is the West and we do things differently here.
Donald R Laster Jr says
What you are forgetting is that Islam is a government whose citizens are obligated to invade and take over other countries, and impose Islam’s civil law. Islam uses the guise of a religion, as well as a host of other deceptions, to aid its invasion of other countries and societies.
Triston says
Are you referring to the Quran or Sayyid Qutb?
gravenimage says
This is mainstream Islam, and has been since the days of the “Prophet”. Pretending this is just about the Muslim Brotherhood is ridiculous.
Triston says
So what about the thousands that migrate to the West every year that don’t follow those teachings? I myself would consider that mainstream. Sayyid Qutb’s opinions and ideals founded modern day extremists. Correct me if I’m wrong but the curan wasn’t published in the 1950s
gravenimage says
Triston wrote:
So what about the thousands that migrate to the West every year that don’t follow those teachings? I myself would consider that mainstream.
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Here in the United States, over half of Muslims say they want to see Shari’ah law imposed here. Things are even worse in Europe. God help us, that *is* mainstream Islam.
More:
Sayyid Qutb’s opinions and ideals founded modern day extremists. Correct me if I’m wrong but the curan wasn’t published in the 1950s
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There is nothing “extreme” about Sayyid Qutb’s views or aims–they are orthodox Islam. The implication that Jihad has only existed since the 1950s is *entirely* mistaken. You can see this in the texts of Islam itself–including the “curan”.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Triston,
The Islamic invasion of non-Islamics lands started when Mohammad’s lies about his god were rejected by most people. He and his followers first took over Arabia, then they took and the Middle East and North Africa, invaded Europe through Spain in the 700s, invaded into India in the 1000/1100s, finally overthrew the Byzantine Empire, now called Turkey, in the 1400/1500s and took over parts of Eastern Europe. And the invasion continues to this day. And I have not included everything such as the constant attacks on Italy, Greece and other others were they constantly took slaves and stole from people. Learn the real history.
Donald R Laster Jr says
I am referring to Islam and all of its foundations. When you look at Islam, the Qur’an, Shar’iah law, and Islam’s 1400 years of history, you will find Islam is a theocracy – a government with its laws given by its god through it leader Mohammad. It has a religious component in the worship of Hubal – allah of Islam (the god of Islam) but Islam is a government with citizens and fealty.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And it is important to understand that lying to non-Islamics and engaging in deception to advance Islam by Islamics is allowed at all times. The methods Islamics are allowed to use to invade and take over a country are flexible.
Daniel Triplett says
@Triston
So what about the thousands that migrate to the West every year that don’t follow those teachings?
They do follow those teachings Triston. If they didn’t, they’d apostatize under the protection and safety of our Western laws. They don’t apostatize because they truly buy into it. Jihad against Kaffirs is MANDATORY.
Here’s a quick lesson about Taqiyya:
https://youtu.be/6F4wBeshTsw
Here’s a quick lesson about the Stages of jihad:
https://youtu.be/0xaRnXGEda0
gravenimage says
Good posts, Donald and Daniel.
somehistory says
Their *assurances* that they would not kill her are no better, nor more reliable, than any of their other lies.
They are all so blood-thirsty, any little excuse is *reason* to kill, to murder the innocent. It matters not why she ran away. it only matters that they wish to shed blood.
They are from their “father, the devil and they wish to do the desires of their father. that one was a murderer and a liar from the beginning.” They take evil glee in murder.
Donald R Laster Jr says
The problem is people don’t want to believe people are actually this depraved. And then when a government does it as part of the government’s civil law, Islam is a theocracy, people have a hard time believing it. That is why International Socialist and National Socialist were able to engage in the depravities they did. Islam is no different. It promotes depravities.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslim tribal council orders honor killing of 13-year-old girl
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Poor little girl.
God, I hate Islam.
abad says
The Quran has always condoned the killing of its own believers. Yes, it is barbaric to non-Moslems like us – it is fair to say Islam is a desensitized religion. Barbarians.
PRCS says
Don’t forget—this isn’t the first such a disgusting “tribal council ruling”, and it won’t be the last.
Pakistan Tribe Orders Teen Raped
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistan-tribe-orders-teen-raped/
gravenimage says
True, PRCS. I’m sure there are many, many more cases we do not hear about.
moeped says
We should ask barack hussein obama about this. I’m sure he would enlighten and educate us by stating the obvious: this has nothing to do with islam; in fact it has less to do with islam than any of religion. It has nothing to do with a satanic cult either.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; In a related story, serial murders/rapists are joining Muhammadanism.
Jack-the-ripper missed his chance, sorry, dear boy.