Muslims of America has long been rumored to be preparing for violent jihad in the U.S.
New York State Police Maj. Jim Barnes said: “There’s no indications there was a plan in place to commit an act of violence. However, it begs the question, what was he doing with all this and what were his intentions down the road?”
Indeed.
“Clarion: Jihadi Cult Associate Arrested in NY With Firearms Stockpile,” Breitbart, July 3, 2017 (thanks to Ken):
A long-time associate of a U.S.-based Islamist terrorist organization, Muslims of America (MOA), has been arrested in Johnson City, NY. Authorities discovered that he had a large cache of weapons inside a storage locker. A source inside MOA says the weapons were intended for the group’s “Islamberg” headquarters in Hancock, NY.
The suspect, 64-year old Ramadan Abdullah, was previously arrested in 1977 when he and another man tried to rob a candy store in Brooklyn and someone was murdered in the process. When police searched his home, they found enough material to build 50 bombs. In the end, the charges against Abdullah were strangely reduced (see below).
On May 31, Abdullah was arrested after trying to steal four boxes of ammunition from a local Gander Mountain store. When police questioned him about the purpose of the ammo, his answers made them suspicious, and they obtained a search warrant for a storage locker he was renting in the town of Union.
During that search, police found a large assortment of weaponry including:
8 assault weapons
4 loaded handguns
1 loaded shotgun
2 rifles
64 high-capacity ammunition feeding devices
flak jackets
1,000s of rounds of ammunition, including .50-caliber armor-piercing roundsSearches of other residences linked to Abdullah turned up another loaded handgun, more high-capacity ammunition feeding devices and ammunition, including .38-caliber rounds.
New York State Police Major Jim Barnes would not say whether Abdullah was connected to terrorist groups or any organizations, but confirmed that police believe Abdullah had made trips overseas.
“There’s no indications there was a plan in place to commit an act of violence. However, it begs the question, what was he doing with all this and what were his intentions down the road?” said New York State Police Maj. Jim Barnes….
john spielman says
good” now tap all muslim communications and mosques ( arsenals for allah)
Guy Jones says
“The suspect, 64-year old Ramadan Abdullah, was previously arrested in 1977 when he and another man tried to rob a candy store in Brooklyn and someone was murdered in the process. ”
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In most jurisdictions, this crime would have been considered “felony murder” — a felony whose commission results in the death of another person — which would, upon the cultprit’s conviction, be cause for the imposition of a severe prison sentence. I would wonder why it is that this reprobate wasn’t convicted and jailed for a long, long time, except that this is notoriously criminal-friendly New York State we are talking about, here.
somehistory says
He should have been given life w/o and since he wasn’t, now he should be for having all of these weapons. Felons are not allowed…by law…to possess. Evidently he has been *allowed* by someone to buy them or *receive* them after the buying.
Ken Olson says
End the Muslim Brotherhood, please
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
… and where is Cruz’s legislation to put the ikwan on the terrorist organization list?
boakai ngombu says
https://counterjihadreport.com/2017/05/28/no-efforts-to-designate-the-muslim-brotherhood-arent-abandoned/
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Thanks for the link.
So in short, “Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart and Cruz’s legislation on designation remains before both the House and Senate.”
Terry says
Flavius–
RE: Diaz–Balart & Cruz are both (either) Cuban refugees or the son(s) of Cuban refugees- who either first hand lived under a totalitarian regime or learned of its horrors from a parent or parents.
Amazing.
And where are the native born hawks like McCain on this? Or any Dem?
Ken Olson says
End the Muslim Brotherhood, please
Westman says
…the hangman isn’t hangin’ and they put you on the street
You go back, Jack, do it again, wheels turnin’ ’round and ’round
You go back, Jack, do it again
Terry says
Part of the NY Police statement: confirmed that police believe Abdullah had made trips overseas.
Couldn’t the police CONTACT THE STATE DEPT. AND SEE IF HE HAS/HAD A PASSPORT, AND WENT OVERSEAS?
I would think that that would all be computerized now.
And, while the arrest and his storage units are in upstate NY, doesn’t NY STATE also (in addition to the city) ( for the entire state) have gun control laws?
And, as Guy Jones says, being involved would be felony murder. Just consider, the first Aaron Hernandez trial. His lawyer admitted that Hernandez was at the scene and present when his (former) best friend was murdered. That made him (Hernandez) just as guilty as the one who pulled the trigger.
His judge in the Brooklyn case must have been “Cut Em Loose Bruce” Wright.
Budvarakbar says
You are forgetting that we are dealing not only with FAKE news – but FAKE Americans as politicians and judiciary – and some law enforcement
John A. Marre says
I first heard of Islamberg several years ago. Did the authorities know about it? if so, they failed in their duty to protect us. If not, they failed in their duty to protect us.
Any “town” named Islamberg is sufficient grounds for jailing and/or deporting all the inhabitants.
pataburd says
They have known about it for a long time.
Mike says
When will we start deporting or hanging these traitors?
pataburd says
In New York State? Probably never. Look at the dismal leadership in this state across the board.
TL says
Not soon. They enjoy the service and protection of judges, prosecutors, and FBI agents. It’s also easy to find useful idiots to serve on juries in scurrilous trials against people who dare to administer a little street justice to Islamic pests.
American Taliban Robert Doggart Found Guilty
http://www.tmoamerica.org/news/news-doggart-guilty/
Another problem is the surplus of morons who wear gray shirts and purple ties as part of their uniform. See the picture, titled “Interfaith-Cooperation”, of a few such morons smiling with members of the cult:
Muslim Americans Rise Above Backlash from Fake Fox News
http://www.tmoamerica.org/news/pr/fake-fox-news/
WPM says
New York is a very very progressive state .If this was some right wing group it would be on every net work non stop. Up state New York is a lot like those run down mill towns in the Midwest ,it has been invades by Islamics back by local church groups and overseas money. Until the money is cut off from overseas these parasites are going to keep nesting in Americas run down mill towns .
Stan Lee says
At least, investigators finally moved on this bad actor! How can there be any question that these Muslims belong among their own, watching each in order to kill the “imperfect” Muslims among them. Perhaps then,they’ll wipe each other off the map!
They bring nothing to the USA but their appetite for freebies, they need to be sent back where they started. If they really want peace, let them prove it to their own brethren . If they’d all stop killing each other over there, then they may be the religion of peace they want us to believe they are. Everywhere they go, there is death, among their own and among ours. They should not be in the U.S.A. never!
gravenimage says
Resident of New York’s reclusive “Islamberg” arrested with massive weapons stockpile
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This should surprise no one.
Really, authorities should search the whole town.
Kiki says
Thank goodness they found those weapons! It sounds like the police investigation is still in the early stages, but the article mentioned that the weapon owner had traveled overseas–I imagine that will be scrutinized by FBI especially.
davej says
I’m sure they were just door prizes for all the attendees at the next Ask a Muslim Anything meet your neighbor night.
Bill says
Nothing burger,
This is an anti-2A piece. ” We need gun control to stop terrorists”. Please friends, stop rising to this bait!
Thus is not an arsenal. It is not a large cache. This is bullshit What crimes are involved? Since it is gun controlled NY, there may be some violations. The loaded arms may violate absurd NY safe storage laws. Not sure. What is an “assault weapon” anyhow. To the Democrat media and foolish Democrats, semi autos built over a hundred years ago are “assault weapons”. Since when did “shot guns” and “rifles” make the crap your pants danger list? 1,000 rounds of ammo is a practice day at the range.
Large capacity magazines, another scare word. In NY anything over 10 rounds is large capacity. Such nonsense. NY State actually bans US Civil War rifles because of their silly and useless “high capacity” restrictions. That is right folks, weapons used in the Civil War are banned in NY.
Do not fall for this nonsense. It is these weapons and your own ability to own and use them that may help save your life some day.
gravenimage says
You have no problems with Mohammedans stockpiling weaponry?
Bill says
Do you have problems with “stockpiling” weaponry by anyone, even yourself? Show me a crime here. Granted, in NY, there might be one or more crimes involved because NY has turned even non-Mohammedan law abiding citizens into felons with its absurd gun control laws. If you believe that civilian disarmament is going to save you from the Mohamedans, you have surrendered already
I can tell you that I know solid, safe, law-abiding US citizens with defense and military backgrounds who had the highest of security clearances, They legally own more than this guy had, just for sporting purposes. Do you fear their “stockpiling” too?
I do not know where you live or what you are accustomed to, but this report is so loaded with propaganda, it is hard to know where the truth starts. I am familiar with Islamberg and have been following news on it for years. I am suspicious of the activities, but so far, no one has been able to find criminal acts there. I am unwilling to sacrifice my rights because of fears of Mohammedans with guns in the area. If you harbor such fears, well, arm yourself.
Debra says
You’re arguing with yourself. Now, more than ever, we need solid Second Amendment protections, but this criminal thug, aka future jihadist, forfeited his right to own firearms a long time ago.
patriotliz says
Bill,
It’s their fascist ideology, Stupid. Stop thinking of Islam as a “religion” and think of it as an IslamoFascist ideology infiltrating the West for the sole purpose of jihad to kill us infidels and take over our country in the name of Allah…maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually when they have enough fire power and enough jihadists and useful infidels to carry it out and overwhelm local law enforcement. It’s happening in Europe. Crime is sedition.
mach37 says
Remember how many years the 9/11 crew were in the US before they struck. It really wasn’t that much time, just a few years.
gravenimage says
Bill, I am a supporter of the Second Amendment–I am *not* a supporter of Muslims waging violent Jihad against us.
mach37 says
Bill; re-read the article. It said “thousands” of rounds, not just 1,000 rounds – there was an ‘s’ attached to the number, 1,000.
Akiva says
We don’t want Islamberg here in NY. Deport them to Pakistan!
Greyhound Fancier says
Can it possibly be legal for “migrant” or refugees to just show up in the US, and then set up a military-style outpost?
Paul N Silas says
He had all of those guns, but only 1,000 rds. of ammo. ? That ain’t much, for all of you non-NRA members.
Heck, the men of the little Southern Baptist country church that I attend could easily double what this guy had. The difference, we will use our weapons to defend our Families, Country, and The Constitution !
God Bless America, Happy 4th ya’ll
mach37 says
Read the article again. It said “thousands” – 1,000 with an ‘s’ attached to the 1,000.
patriotliz says
There is indeed a seditious plan…it’s in the Quran.
mach37 says
Some people may wonder how ISIS got so much firepower and so many weapons, that they could take control of large swaths of cities like Aleppo, and complete control of Mosul. It helps that there are thousands of square miles of the Syrian desert for them to train in without being seen. But there are forests in even heavily populated states like New York and New Jersey where they can train in relative secrecy. It is easy for insurgents to hide among the heavily Islamic ghettos of eastern cities in between training trips to the woods.
‘Depots’ of large weapons caches like this aren’t for just a single collector’s pleasure.
tim gallagher says
Just a comment on the idea of Islam being reformed as Kiki has mentioned above. I agree with Wellington and others that Islam can’t be reformed and certainly never will be. I’ve often thought if you took all the calls for violence, murder and total barbarity out of Islam, there’d be nothing left. It seems to me to be unmitigated evil. I think it is like Nazism or like the old human sacrifice type religions such as the Aztec religion. It should be consigned to the dustbin of history. Islam just needs to be kept out of all civilised, non-Muslim countries. As for trying to convince the liberal, leftie types- I wouldn’t have a clue how you achieve that because I believe everyone should have woken up by now. Some people are too idiotic to ever be woken up. A lot of them probably can’t stand to admit they have been and are wrong about Islam. Their attitude drives me to despair.
mach37 says
Add me to your list of believers, Tim. You and Wellington have spoken well. I keep wanting to add my 2¢ on the subject, but you both have expressed it better than I could. I will be passing on portions of your words in other blogs in the future.