Imagine the uproar if a Christian student had expressed a desire to “oppress” any group, and said that everyone should read the Bible so that there would be a Christian takeover of Britain. But this will gain little, if any, notice in shattered, staggering, dhimmi Britain.
In any case, I do agree with Zamzam Ibrahim on one thing: everyone should read the Qur’an, so as to be informed about what is coming.
“Student union president sparks controversy by saying she would like to ‘oppress white people’, everyone should read the Koran and that men and women must not be friends,” by Darren Boyle, MailOnline, July 1, 2017:
A Muslim student union leader has claimed she would like to ‘oppress white people’ and has suggested there would be an Islamic takeover if more people read the Koran.
Zamzam Ibrahim, who was elected President of Salford University’s Student Union in March, also suggested friendship between men and women is un-Islamic and is opposed to the government’s anti-radicalisation strategy.
Ms Ibrahim, who is a Swedish-Somali described the government’s prevent strategy as ‘disastrous’ and ‘racist’.
In one message she responded to a question on AskFM on what book everyone should read. She said: ‘The Quaraan. We would have an Islamic takeover!’
In another message on the topic of the possibility of friendship between a man and a woman, she replied: ‘I’ve had this debate with many friends! Maybe in some cases but Islamically it’s incorrect for girls to be friends with a guy anyway!
‘So I’m gonna say NO not the kind of friendship they can have with the same gender there is always boundaries.’
In one tweet from May 9, 2012 under the hashtag #ifIwasPresident, she wrote: ‘I’d oppress white people just to give them a taste of what they put us through!’
Ms Ibrahim was also recently elected to the National Union of Students Block of 15 committee….
mortimer says
Leading scholar Bernard Lewis wrote: “”The OBJECT OF JIHAD is to BRING THE WHOLE WORLD UNDER ISLAMIC LAW… In an Islamic state, there is in principle no law other than the shar’ia, the Holy Law of Islam… The idea that any group of persons, any kind of activities, or any part of human life is in any sense outside the scope of religious law and jurisdiction is alien to Muslim thought.”
Anyone who denies what Prof. Bernard Lewis has written is either gullible or a mendacious taqiyya artist.
Don Foss says
True…but this girl is right: Everyone should read the Qur’an. There is no better way to expose for its true nature than for the Qur’an to be required reading for all students before graduating university. It convinced me and millions of others…of the truth of Islam. Now I know exactly who the enemy is.
Manual Paleologos says
Exactly. Know your enemy.
John Forbes says
It is not a bad directive at all & will expose the hatred in this text ! What also needs to be read is the Hadiths , The Life of Mohammed & the Sunna & Bukhari
Then you can really see the HATRED being taught !
But should reading not be your FORTE – go to FINSBURY MOSQUE under cover on YOU TUBE & you can see the HATRED being taught by the SAUDI WAHABI SECT in the UK
Shalom says
I’ve just been reading an article written by Bernard Lewis in the New Yorker in which he says the following:-
Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda followers may not represent Islam, and their statements and their actions directly contradict basic Islamic principles and teachings, but they do arise from within Muslim civilization, just as Hitler and the Nazis arose from within Christian civilization, so they must be seen in their own cultural, religious, and historical context.
Did you know this?
WPM says
Nazis were not Christian they worship the old pagan gods of germen history. Al Qaeda followers follower the Koran , Hadith, and Sharia law they are true Islamics. The only reason the Nazis did not attack practicing Christians is because they needed them to make there dream of world domination. If they did dominate the world the Nazis would have kill off the Christians like the Jews. The Islamics use the progressives the same way the Nazis used Christians in Germany ,if the Islamics get their way they will kill off the progressives.
WPM says
The main reason for German guilt today, they are taking in people who will exterminate them like the Germans did to the Jews during the 1930s to 1940s.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; The ”Nazis” are a Christian identity group, it’s all through ”Mein Kampf”, but that would require actual reading abilities, and not populist speculation. Himmler was the one wasting tax-payer’s money running all over Tibet searching for the ”Master Race”, while misusing ancient Nordic religious symbols, which he never accurately studied, because that would require intelligence, and emotional maturity. Himmler was very immature, and he was another person severely damaged by the schizophrenic, hyper-graphia, chicken scratchings of Madam Blavatsky.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5cuzj7i1Whs/maxresdefault.jpg
WPM says
So Himmler was nuts who knew, but he was one of the main leaders of the Nazis during WW2 Hitler,s point man who pushed to wipe the Jews out he did believe a lot of nonsense. As you pointed out pagan crap ,but not Christian. Point out some examples the Nazis are a Christian identity group. There is no speculation he was nuts and spend a lot time on pagan nonsense, but where does that make it a Christian Identity group. Nordic Bull shit and fairy tales of past glory, that made the Nazis tick. Hitler set himself up as a god he had a lot of idiots like Himmler follow him to the end.
gravenimage says
Shalom, there is nothing in Christianity that supports Nazism, and Hitler despised Christianity as being “weak and flabby”.
But bin Laden and Al Qaeda act on the texts and tenets of mainstream Islam, and on the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed.
WPM says
Thank you I could not agree more Shalom to you too.
Shalom says
Yes, I know all that. I was just referring to what Bernard Lewis says in his book and wondered why, if he’s such an expert on Islam.
Manual Paleologos says
I disagree with Lewis of the NYT. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are pretty mainstream moslem these days. Islam has changed in tone over the past 50 years or so. It has become more militant, more islamic. They are returning to their roots.
When I worked on a World Bank water supply project in Sudan in the 80s, the Sudanese people were very welcoming, friendly, and cordial. They treated their own Christians like shit, but they treated Westerners well. They were happy to see us, because we were helping them. They produced booze, there. It was awful, but it was drinkable.
I wouldn’t go back there now, without a mech division.
When I worked in Saudi, in the 80s and 90s, the Saudis were their usual arrogant pricks, but Westerners weren’t hassled. I always carried a Bible, and it was never questioned. We all brewed beer in our compounds. The Safeway grocery store carried brewer’s yeast, malt extract, hops, and bottles, all on the same shelf.
The Expats I know who have come back from there now stay in compounds behind barbed wire and machineguns.
Islam has been steadily growing more militant. They are feeling their oats. Their tide is on the rise.
We encourage them. We invite them into our homes and pamper them, giving them special privileges and treating them with kid gloves.
I guess we haven’t bled enough.
R Russell says
It is my understanding that Muslims read/recite the Koran in ancient Arabic which is not understood by today’s Arabic speakers.
I wonder if this lady is expecting the kuffr to also to read it in ancient Arabic which they too wont understand?
It is also my understanding that Muslims do not consider the Koran in any other language than ancient Arabic to be inspired.
What then is this lady requesting? As usual when dealing with Islam, what is said has to be understood from an Islamic viewpoint.
No doubt many will be deceived – again.
mortimer says
RR, you are correct that Muslim rituals take place in ancient Arabic. Muslims memorize the Koran in 7th century Arabic…going la, la, la and understanding barely a word of it. Some Muslims have left Islam after reading the Koran in a translation and actually understanding the Koran’s extreme viciousness for the first time.
Muslims say they want you to read the Koran, often when they have not studied the Koran themselves or understand how damaging the Koran actually is to the case for Islam. The Koran has violent and hateful language on practically every page, and is filled with discrimination against non-Muslims and women. There could not be a book more out of sync with the modern world.
Paul F Austin says
How many times I have pointed out that from birth to death Muslims are entreated to read the Koran five times a day. In almost every verse or Surah one can find demands for Muslims to never have Jews or Christians as friends. Together with this they are also entreated should it suit Islam, to lie to protect themselves and their religion and also in the political promotion of the ‘cult’. There is no discussion between Muslims and Christians and in fact should a Muslim fail to adhere to the Sharia they can be ritually killed, murdered in protection of the teachings of the pedophile that they adore. Not even ONE Muslim can be trusted to tell the truth so they can never integrate with any other religion. It is a complete waste of time to even dream that they will ever renounce murder, hangings, tale or conquest in the name of their demented cult. Never, ever, give a Muslim a vote in any Judeo/Christian country or culture.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I’m afraid the idea that Muslims know nothing about Islam is not borne out–all too many Muslims know *exactly* what their vicious creed calls for.
VRWC member77 says
RR,
When muslims read the quran they receive something called “Barakah.” There’s a verse in the quran, I believe it’s 21:47 stating that a the number of good deeds a muslim performs during his/her life will be weighed against their bad deeds. If their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds they will go to heaven. Otherwise they will go to hell. They only way to get around this (and Robert has explained this on a video) is either “kill and be killed in the way of allah” (sura 9:111) or “emigrate in the way of allah” (sura 4:100).
A muslim can receive Barakah by reciting the quran. He doesn’t need to understand what he’s reading, he just needs to read it aloud. That’s one main reason devout muslims recite the quran even though they don’t understand what their reading. They will “receive Barakah none the less. Some other sources of “Barakah” are:
1. Good Intentions
2. Piety and belief in allah
3. Putting your trust in allah
4. READING THE QURAN
5. Saying Bismillah
6. Eating with people
7. Honesty in trade……..and others
Check out this link:
http://productivemuslim.com/18-sources-of-barakah/
VRWC member77 says
*** Barakah = good deeds ****
Paul F Austin says
I have known and been dealing with Muslims for over sixty years – my conclusion? I wouldn’t trust ONE of them as far as I could throw a mosque. The most insincere, selfish, untrustworthy people I have EVER dealt with – and I cannot count the times they have turned to me and vowed that the best people THEY have learned to TRUST? The Jews!
balam says
I would rather trust a COBRA SNAKE under my pillow during sleep than a PIOUS MUSLIM .They have NO CONSCIENCE OR MORALITY, only SEX and SAVAGERY like Mohammad-the pervert pedophile who cut the throats of 900 Jews of Quraiza tribe without remorse .He was a PSYCHOPATH and so are his followers.
gravenimage says
The greatest “good deed” in Islam is slaughtering Infidels who haven’t submitted to Islam.
trish says
Has Ms Zimmy read the Koran in Arabic herself? BTW, what is a “Swedish Somali” doing in the UK?
What is she studying? Good guess would be a snowflake sociology/gender studies course or perhaps a Ph D in ‘Islamophobia” ?
As for ‘oppressing whites”, don’t these UK universities have Registrars, whose job it is to ensure racists are weeded out?
How about the British police who are quick to bring charges of ‘inciting racial hatred’ against white patriots ,or anyone who looks sideways at a woman in a hijab etc? What else is this stupid little bimbo doing but expressing racial hatred based on colour of skin? Charge her.
Suggest JW readers email Registrar Salford Uni and Salford Police Centre.
Jenny H says
She must hate her white parent, or does it mean that she and / or both her parents were from Somalia and became a Swedish citizens? If the latter, she shows ingratitude and racism toward the generosity of the Swedish people and Government which allowed her and her family to become Swedish citizens.
Don Foss says
I lived on the Arabian Peninsula and worked with many Muslims who could afford to send their kids to private schools. My understanding is that it’s not “ancient,” but “formal.” Well educated Arabians will learn the formal Arabic, but upwards of 90% of Muslims will not. And your right about the readings of the Qur’an: Most Islamic countries have mandatory Islamic studies, but the schools will be very picky about what is being taught, and thank God it is almost entirely pre-Hijrah Islam, which is why many Muslims are completely unaware of the last 8 years of Muhammad’s prophethood, except the most sanitized version of it.
CantSay says
No problem, and she’s perfectly to her views. By the way there are some great countries in the middle east that do all the things she wants and the climates nicer. She’d love it there. She should go. We could even pay for her ticket.
mortimer says
Agree. Muslims who love Sharia should have the option of a one-way ticket to Berzerkistan.
WPM says
While she is in Berzerkistan an arranged marriage to some 79 year old goat farmer would suit her fine.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Thanks, mortimer!
Berzerkistan is now my favorite thing I’ve read on this site!
Mac-101 says
She need to be sold to a Somalian Warlord and learn what true oppression is ALL about. I wonder what she is studying to be?
Greyhound Fancier says
Perhaps a lesbian dance theorist?
Paul F Austin says
I agree entirely. EVERYONE should read the Koran. More especially MP’s and those in local Government. In particular it should be read in conjunction with those sites on the Internet who detail in great detail for us not only the myriad contradictions but also the racist and several calls to murder, behead, rape and despoil women. Not to mention thecalls for conquest and the formation of a Caliphate and the conversion of ALL peoples to convert to Islam. If the western Democracies were to properly react to the calls of conquest in the Koran, then it would be entirely sensible to set about on a New Crusade by which once again to protect our freedoms and Judeo/Christian beliefs. Carry on, read on and inwardly digest every word of the despicable tome. The world would be better off by reading it and realising the dangers it holds for world freedoms and Democracy.
john spielman says
also we must read the HADITHS – the sayings of muahmed and the biography of muhammed’s vile reprobate life
Mac-101 says
True, it’s hard to believe anyone from any age can think that Mohammad was the Best of Men from the Best of Tribes. Is there NOT one vile act he did NOT perform according to their own works?
simpleton1 says
All good points, PFA js & Mac
To know the koran in chronological order, First the Mecca verses, then the actual abrogation verses, that where in conflict with the later Medina verses nullify the basically the peaceful verses.
With the authoritative hadith, like Bukhari, completes the “excellent examples” of Mohammad actions, deeds, and sayings to be the acclaimed “perfect man”.
Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories. Sun Tzu
No Fear says
Um, I don’t think Mohammed had sex with a dead male horse. I can’t find that in the Hadith. He did most other abominable crimes. Rape. Theft. Murder. Torture. Encouraged his soldiers to rape. Had sex with a nine year old. etc etc
Michael Copeland says
“When I have time, I must put it into German so that every man may see what a foul and shameful book it is.”
Martin Luther
See “Book Reviews: the Koran” at Liberty GB
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran
mortimer says
Many jihadists have come out of university MUSLIM STUDENT CLUBS. In such clubs, they study the PRIMARY ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS in which the students become convinced of the INDIVIDUAL DUTY OF JIHAD.
Islamic student groups/study groups are one of the MOST FERTILE grounds for JIHAD RECRUITMENT.
john spielman says
whew! what a poster for mandatory burqa wearing
CogitoErgoSum says
So Ms. Zamzam Ibrahim would oppress white people to give them a taste of what oppression is like. How about the white people of the UK give Muslims a taste of Islamic oppression by making Muslims pay a special tax or be killed if they refuse to renounce Islam? But no …. most white people of the UK wouldn’t agree to do anything like that ……. and the reason is that most white people of the UK (the ones that are not Muslims) live by a higher standard than the one Ms. Zamzam Ibrahim learned through reading the Quran.
The awful truth says
If and when the well meaning British vote Labour in, the acceleration towards Islam will be much much faster.
John Fofrbes says
Irregardless of OPINIONS it pays to look at the DEMOGRAPHIC FACTS alone !
UK birth rate 1.6. at best ! NOT due to people not wanting children but due to HUGE costs of housing & life in general – so hence the LOW BIRTH rate !
NU LABOR answer- Do not bother to fix the COSTS & DEVELOP family based housing & education & child care policies ! FLOOD the PLACE with Third World People & this will give LABOR VOTERS & a HUGE POWER BASE ! BUT IGNORES the facts that Many will be on the WELFARE & SOCIALLY ISOLATED due to the deliberate policy of MULTICULTURALISM ! IGNORE CHILD BRIDES , FGM ( not a single conviction to date in the UK) IGNORE MUSLIM CHILD RAPING GROUPS all over the UK !
IGNORE hate PREACHING”S in MOSQUES & MADRASSAS & IGNORE RADICALS SPITTING on Returning Troops & IGNORE BURNING of POPPIES – on REMEMBRANCE DAY !
GET a KORAN FAST wile you have your HEAD & BUY your Wife a HIBAYAH !!! Pathetic Government – led by UTTER COWARDS !!
Paul F Austin says
John Forbes – yes! Hit the nail on the head again! However, I have a feeling that once again you are ‘casting pearls among swine’ – no need to tell YOU to stick to your guns – and NOT just metaphorically! Did you get around to reading the Cicero piece (and substitute Muslims instead of ‘traitors’)?
PFA
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
Anyone who believes in the Islam in the Qur’an or Hadith is either a psychopath, or intellectually inferior or both.
mortimer says
Psychopath? How about what she wrote?
“‘I’d oppress white people just to give them a taste of what they put us through!”
Definition of PSYCHOPATH: a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.
Zamzam Ibrahim’s COMMENT fits the definition of PSYCHOPATHY !!!
Jayell says
“Student union president sparks controversy by saying she would like to ‘oppress white people’, everyone should read the Koran and that men and women must not be friends”…..what is THAT if it is not unadulterated sexist, racist, severely intellectually-challenged, near-criminal bigoted garbage? So what the hell is this specimen doing at the head of the UK Students’ Union when she should really have been arrested? The maggots really have got into the woodwork here, because there’s absolutely no way that this can be the best qualified individual for the job in a supposedly civilised place like the British Isles. And to have this sort of creature running the NUS after the last Islamic debacle is to destroy the last vestige of credibility for the organisation and effectively sign its death-warrant. In any case, if everyone did actually read the ‘Koran’, what sort of reaction does this idiot think she would get? Doesn’t she realise that most people in the UK would have enough between their ears to correctly conclude that it is just a laughably incoherent catalogue of antediluvian plagiarised nonsense? Who does she think she is trying to kid?
simpleton1 says
“Who does she think she is trying to kid?”
Well her voters elected her for a start, and she is catering for them.
She believes that she and her ilk can guide us in understanding the koran.
Jayell says
I hardly think that the proverbial Man on the Clapham Omnibus would have voted for her, so that must leave the Great Brainwashed Adolescent Intelligentsia (sic) who currently populate our university campuses and who have clearly lost touch with sanity. My second point remains unanswered – what level of mindless myopic bigotry does the heroine of this story possess in order for her to have such a total lack of awareness and self-awareness that she clearly does not have the faintest clue that she is philosophically completely out of step with the UK and what passes for her native religious ideals would simply lay her open to derisory rejection? Or can’t she really see beyond her prehistoric ego?
gravenimage says
She doesn’t want to be in step with the civilized UK–she wants her coreligionists to take over.
simpleton1 says
She is in step with the concept of one God, Allah and his messenger.
She is doing her duty and will do whatever it takes.
She herself will self sacrifice for islam. With a husband and a brood of kids under sharia.
Or remains in the same context with a snout in another trough, probably of some government origin, but idealizing Allah and his messenger Mohammad.
Further down I and Sarah espoused about her ego, duties and future life.
Michael Copeland says
“It’s just the rantings of a schizophrenic.”
Sebastian Faulks
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran
mortimer says
MESSAGE FOR Zamzam Ibrahim: PLEASE SHARE THE FOLLOWING GREAT KORAN VERSES WITH NON-MUSLIMS STUDENTS SO THEY KNOW WHY YOU HATE THEM ‘FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH’:
Koran 28:86 “Do not support the kafireen in any way.”
Koran 5.51 “He amongst you who turns to them (for friendship) is of them.”
Koran 40:35 “They who dispute the signs (verses) of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers.” (Note: not just “hated”, but “greatly hated”.)
Koran 48:29: “Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are violent to the unbelievers, but compassionate to one another.”
Koran 4: 101 “The kuffar are for you a clear enemy.”
Koran 8:60 “Terrorize the enemy of Allah and your enemy”
Koran 60:4 “We have rejected you, and there has arisen between us and you enmity and hatred, until you believe and worship Allaah alone.”
Koran 3: 118 “O you who believe! Do not take into your intimacy those outside your ranks. They will not fail to corrupt you.”
WOW! Isn’t the Koran GREAT!!!
(sarc/off)
John Krupa says
Robert, certainly I agree with your sentiments when you write: “In any case, I do agree with Zamzam Ibrahim on one thing: everyone should read the Qur’an, so as to be informed about what is coming.”
Note: regarding mandatory reading, I would also throw in a bunch of those “interesting” quotes from the sunnah; however, the main benefit which I can see from this suggestion is that, with a general public much more informed, the immoral and corrupt political supporters of this muhammedan death cult will have a much harder time in their efforts to continue to dupe [read: sell-out] said Western publics and their nations and cultures.
However, in this reading, while beforehand ensuring that this unholy book is translated into English, three primary things will be demonstrated much more clearly:
[1] That FUNDAMENTAL muhammedans who adhere to the UNHOLY kkkoran — that is, the murderers, rapists, torturers, enslavers and etc, AND, most of the quasi-moderates who support largely these FUNDAMENTAL muhammedans — are adhering to notions which are FUNDAMENTAL [considered by their authorities to be absolutely normative], and, AS SUCH, are NOT practicing anything which is considered to them to be RADICAL or EXTREME;
[2] That muhammedanism is an anti-Liberal [anti-Western, anti-Freedom, anti-American, anti-Europe, anti-Israeli, etc] death cult which has been mandated, since its inception by their unholy false-prophet, to CONQUER the West; whereas,
[3] Death cult muhammedanism is NOT a religion of peace; where, instead, at best it is an EVIL religion which is mandated to the absolute destruction [read: absolute conquest] of the West.
PS: Question: I am assuming that this young cultist [Zamzam Ibrahim] is able to read Arabic, yes? If so, IMO, this is proof-positive that she is thoroughly brainwashed … in view of the fact that there is, expressed within, in no uncertain terms [particularly against the peoples of the book], reams of anti-humanity hatred and destruction. Could a rational, liberal human even conceive of supporting such an evil text, let alone recommending it for consumption by others?
Mark Swan says
This woman probably does not care what is in the Quran, she is a racist.
She is obsessed with telling herself that she is a victim, of skin tone.
A spoiled human, wanting far more attention than anyone deserves. Bent on getting it.
Michael Copeland says
She reveres a leader who kept black slaves, and called negroes “raisin-heads”.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Michael Copeland.
gravenimage says
True, Michael.
Stan Lee says
It would seem that with “political correctness” as dominant as it is in the UK, PC ideology has indoctrinated non-Muslims so deeply, that it has produced student types who are paralyzed in thought, This is most likely attributable to formative years of stringent PC education. In addition to the fact that they had no ideological roots to start with, their minds were empty and ready to be filled with whatever group thought dictated. Following any semblance of organization, as long as these students believe a movement is worth following, is all it takes to convert them into zombies depending upon togetherness with their peers. If they weren’t human beings, they could be ducks, which also are known for “Q-ing up without any prompting.
God and country was what drove Britain to resist and stop Hitler’s steamroller over 75 years ago. Today, a Somali female student, who apparently became a Swedish subject discovered an even more fertile land in the UK to project her beliefs. Modern Sweden, a nordic nation “that was,” with hardly a divinity in the lives of Swedes, was easy pickings for Islam, obviously no challenge to her Islamic orientation, but the British she understood as being ripe for Islamic conversion when done in gradual organized steps allowing each phase of conversion to become firm while the Brit students were unconscious of a conversion process taking place at all.
What is confounding about it all, is the question whether Great Britain and its august history are worth anything to these British-born, but disabled as loyal Brit citizens students? They are not “people without a country, but they are people without belief or loyalty to their country.
The awful truth says
You just wait until Labour’s Slogan is interpreted “for the many [moslems] not for the “few”” The Muslim takeover appears a statistical certainty …
gravenimage says
Even now, Muslims make up just 4.4% of the population in Britain. Patriotic Brits *can* still take back their civilized society.
James says
Kuffar most definitely should read the Koran. Doing so will help us to know, however incompletely, what kinds of attitudes and actions are considered desirable in good Muslims.
Reading what Muslim sources say about Shari’a, Jihad, and other social issues is also highly desirable – Muslims cannot be understood from secular Western sources !
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Zamzam Ibrahim has a charmingly watery forename, and her teeth-baring smile in the photo above only adds to her charm. But did you notice what is written on her sweatshirt? Go to that website and you will find a zakat-eligible charity that dispenses money to all the regions shown in the map at
http://pennyappeal.org/about-us.html
Notice anything in common with those countries?
(By the way, are donations to Jihad Watch also zakat-eligible?)
Mark A says
Students are compelled to join these student “unions” and pay dues to them.
There should be a campaign, including lawsuits, to prevent students being compelled to join and fund these outfits.
Why should people be compelled to join and fund organizations like this if they disagree with this kind of message? Attack these organizations be taking away their ability to compel membership and dues funding.
Sharonda says
“A Muslim student union leader has claimed she would like to ‘oppress white people’ and has suggested there would be an Islamic takeover if more people read the Koran.”
I suppose I can understand how some opportunistic people might think this way. “So if I become a Muslim, I can have slaves, take whatever I want from kafirs, and collect the jizya, because it’s my right. Sure, who wouldn’t?”
Kennefy says
Please install WhatsApp so that I can share
Santa Voorhees says
‘I’d oppress white people just to give them a taste of what they put us through!’
Of course she is totally ignoring islamic history from the 7th century. And by the way the UK dhimmi government already does that so she does not need to worry about it.
Kennefy says
Ibrahim we, christian cannot say these things in Islamic country. You are in the same mind set. Jihad watch won’t tell lies. You bomb Britain then why you can’t bomb with words
Irene Brekelmans says
I agree with Dave, why do you let these people in these “high” positions.
I sometimes wonder if there are still Americans in the USA, French in France, English in the UK. Dutch in the Netherlands. I only hear and see those people, everywhere everything in Arabic, mayors, police chiefs, and governments , posts occupied by the same kind of persons like this ZAMZAM. Oppress the whites,, just to lt you know, we have not more in common, we have less, actually, nothing in common any more.
We made the mistake to think so, and oh, were we mistaken.!!!
Isabellathecrusader says
Nobody named Zamzam should ever be allowed in a position of power. Seriously.
Or Ibrahim for that matter.
davej says
Zamzam: the cheerful smirking face of the would-be oppressor and subsequent murderer of all non-believers. She thinks she is winning and she may be right – for now.
IQ al Rassooli says
Dear JW readers
None of you should ever be SURPRISED regarding the total IRRATIONALITY of Muslims
After all, I have had a challenge worth $100,000 to anyone who can find a SINGLE Muslim who has TWO brain cells of logic when addressing the subjects of Religion, Politics and History in debating me on Prime time TV
There are 1,500,000,000 to choose from. After utterly demolishing my adversary I of course expect to be paid $100,000
What is even more sickening is allowing such a LOW life Muslima to be ‘president’ in ANY college!
Any Muslim challengers?
Maybe she would volunteer?
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Karen says
What a tiresome, vengeful, bore.
Jedothek says
At least we know whom not to vote for for president.
Robert says
Yes! Please do read the Quran, to discover for yourself what it IN FACT teaches. But don’t stop there; continue your study of Islam by reading the Hadith and Sira, since they regulate the thoughts and actions of Muslims, too.
Regarding oppression — this young woman sounds like a ditz, a nice person but a useful idiot. Clearly, she hasn’t ever lived under true Islamic rule, otherwise she wouldn’t be saying what she says. In a true Caliphate, she’d be silenced. Real Islamic men don’t like strong-willed women, who speak their mind.
If this girl knew history, then she’d know that Arabic Islamic men were the primary slave traders of black Africans, of which she is one, since she’s Somalian by descent. Long after white Americans and Europeans stopped trading in black slaves, Arabic Islamic men were still going into African villages and abducting blacks from their homes by threat of violence and by the exercise of naked violence. The slavers continued to ply their trade into the 1910s!
The only thing that stopped Arabic Islamic men from continuing the slave trade of black Africans was gunboat diplomacy, practiced by white Americans and Europeans. The white Great Powers used gunboats to end the slave trade. When the Muslims wouldn’t stop, then they’d get bombed by the gunboats.
In other words, white men from America and Europe stopped the Islamic slave trade of black Africans.
Learn your history, Zamzam Ibrahim. Stop being a useful idiot.
James says
I downloaded A. Guillaume’s 863-page translation of Ibn Ishaq’s Life of Muhammad. The section on the Night Journey is fascinating. It looks like a good read. Does anyone know of a more recent translation, and, whether the much longer Life by Ibn Kathir is worth reading ?
gravenimage says
That’s a good translation.
Barry says
If zamzam is serious about oppressing those who’ve oppressed black people (to give them a taste of their own medicine), she should oppress mohammad and his ilk – mo owned and traded black slaves….he was a lynchpin in establishing black slavery…so you go girl!!! Go chew mo’s ass and oppress him for oppressing blacks…
Robert says
Yep; no question. She should start with prime suspects: her fellow Arabic Islamic men.
Tangata says
Well the White students who firm the majority of students in any western university must be taken to task. If they are should know that this is what you get when you elect a fundamentalist Muslim president of your western institution. And because the White West are already stuck into Cultural Marxism, at least half of you will readily welcome Muslims who actually hate white Westerners to be your mayors, members of parliaments, and presidents and councillors who wish to destroy you.
Paul F Austin says
The white students are a workshy, cowardly bunch, who have no moral commitments at all and Fall for the arrogant, bullish, commandeering Muslims who pollute our universities in enormous numbers. Where are the white loyal students who are in privileged education because their ancestors fought to maintain their freedoms? They will soon be in a minority and will rue the day they supported Muslims IN ANY capacity in education, because Islamic militants (those who currently govern out colleges) will ultimately move into upper management – THEN they will begin to understand TRUE oppression.
simpleton1 says
White students seem to aspire to followings on twitter, instagram, facebook , Utube & etc.
Life seems great, so who wants to know.
They can be sjw., pushing off white privilege, being politically correct, etc. rounding on their own in trying to stay at the top of the pile.
Many seem to have a money tap, or wean over to the media, or some form of feeding trough, while they can feel good, espousing all the nonsensical words of what they believe is wisdom.
So far so good, but as PFA above points out that the muslims will slide into management positions, where they will commandeer the money trough for only their lot.
Sadly I think many will sell their souls and become muslims, in appearance, in the name of survival.
At a later stage that will be come questionable, so then the race will be on to be the “best of muslims”, or they will be called out.
Then they really have to follow all of Mohammad’s sayings, actions and deeds to keep their heads..
Paul F Austin says
SIMPLETON 1 – (some simpleton!) Thanks! You have articulated much of what I WISH I had said – I would suggest around sixty per cent are living off their parents and grandparents, who, because of THEIR provident lifestyles are now supporting their ‘LOVED ONES’. Few of them have any ‘bottle’ (as we used to say- OR balls as others say!). They will fall like a house of cards to the inculcated, arrogant, brainwashed, militant, rabid ad hateful Muslims who have even now, come to dominate our schools, colleges and universities. They are devoid of discipline, self-control, common logic or original thought. This is of course why most of our actors, politicians, writers and journalists have come from Eton, Harrow and other Public Schools (British that is, not the American type!). Few from the working class will ever percolate to the top – I thank God that I am about to shuffle off this mortal coil in a few years time – I will not suffer the anguish, shame and disappointment other true Brits following me will suffer. The mind boggles!!! All that I can offer currently is to BEG these idiots NEVER to give a single vote to ANY Muslim who ever stands for Office – to do so is to simply hasten the downfall.
simpleton1 says
Thanks PFA,
Although I do not like defeatism, I do respect pragmatism and realism.
Like you it is the goal to have a remnant, not sure who, but words, comments, information and knowledge, that may allow an ember with a small breeze and conditions are right, to reignite.
Your words become of portent when a few years down the track, and questions arise of how it got to this state.
That may make some think twice about glibly selling their souls.
An interesting aside, but does parallel our concerns and issues that arose in that time.
It was from the Oxford debate 1933,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_and_Country_debate
So maybe we can see a possibility that may grant us hope.
It is our work to guard those embers of knowledge, information and wisdom, and to endeavour to spread it far and wide, with creditability.
To practice here, with great thanks to RS, with comments, to gain better understanding, then to spread out with better reasoning to other forums, debates and blogs; and then to family, friends,and neighbours.
“Know thy self, know thy enemy.” Sun Tzu
gravenimage says
Voting for her was insane.
Mark Swan says
Yes gravenimage, and the fact that this can happen is insane.
PRCS says
Don’t know on what date she was elected, but those tweets are more than a year old.
Now, for the insanity:
Were the school’s administrators aware of them, and if so….?
Were her opponents aware of them, and if so….?
Was the student body aware of them, and if so…..?
gravenimage says
True, Mark.
All good questions, PRCS.
Siddi Nasrani says
Here we witness the result of inbreeding over 1400 years.
Their genetic coding is cross wired in the brain.
Hence the Islamic logic.
gravenimage says
Ayaan Hirsi Ali comes from the same stock–she became sane when she left Islam.
Inbreeding does not help, but the ideology of Islam is the real problem.
PRCS says
She’s not doing we “filthy unbelievers” any favors with her references to “radical Islam”.
gravenimage says
I agree, PRCS.
But in the whole scheme of things, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a courageous apostate, risking her life to inform Infidels about the threat of Islam.
That is more than many people have done. I still consider her a brave Anti-Jihadist.
Lydia says
Uh… not!
Everyone should read the BIBLE.
It is good to be educated on other religions so we know what is
WRONG with them, like islam, who wants to oppress… basically…. everyone.
There is no common ground, period.
James says
Reading the Bible won’t tell us what is in the Koran. Both need to be read, if they are to be compared. Otherwise, it will be impossible to correct misapprehensions about the two books. Islam thrives on ignorance of the Jewish and Christian holy books, and on ignorance of the Koran – such ignorance leaves Muslims free to make any claim they like, without being challenged. To stand up to Islam, one has to know what, how, and why Muslims “tick” – and this is impossible, if one is not familiar with the Koran.
gravenimage says
Agreed, James.
Paul F Austin says
The Koran should be REQUIRED RESDING and close study by EVERY MP. Were they to pay as much attention to this, perhaps as much as they study their Bank balances or the Stock Exchange, we may hear some sense out of them in terms of the threat TO US ALL from Islam.
Paul F Austin says
Of course I meant REQUIRED READING….. Sorry
Michael Copeland says
Just read the first nine Suras, as I.Q. al Rassooli suggests.
Bear in mind that Sura 9 overrides and “abrogates” all the peaceful verses elsewhere.
Solomon says
In the Britain of my grandfather’s time someone like this would’ve been imprisoned, executed, or deported. Alas, Britain hasn’t been sane for quite some time.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Solomon.
Anne Smith says
Particularly not now with Sharia May in charge
Paul F Austin says
simpleton1 – perhaps the secret of the Universe is to ‘know thyself’ ……….but I am more inclined to hear the words of Cicero – and ponder – is the answer really what Cicero suggested in his treatise on ‘Traitors’ – (for traitors, read Muslims and all becomes clear) –
“……that baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men” – If I recall the Catholic Church, at one time when it retained SOME modicum of believability, referred to it as ‘Original Sin’ – is THIS what we are experiencing? Is man truly destined to destroy himself – not be destroyed by ‘The Gods’ – but by his own baseness?
gravenimage says
Paul, the idea that all people act like ravening Muslims is mistaken.
Ideology *does* matter.
simpleton1 says
I have pondered; to what level of “baseness” will it take, to win.
But then I think of WW2 when as soon as hostilities were over, the people endeavoured to return to the basis of where civilization had left off, and Churchill accepted the election results of losing after WW2,
As I mentioned earlier the “siren” calls of Peace at All Costs, that showed its head in the 1933 Oxford debates would seem to be betrayal.
Today it is the insidious steps, of ratifying what is in the koran, hadith, sunnah and sirah though a lot is in ignorance. More people are seeing it, and I have been surprised just who has the koran, and are so aware of it.
Still not enough, but it has moved.
The question becomes; are the ones who do know that ideology, but still try to move society’s acceptance of it., “traitors” and that may be more than muslims.
I will read up Cicero’ treatise and do take your point. Thankyou
gravenimage says
I don’t believe we have to become barbarians to defend against Islam, simpleton, any more than we had to become Nazis to beat Fascism.
Michael says
What is the alternative to the Catholic Church?
Paul F Austin says
How to get rid of the Catholic Church? No need to – whilst currently people are discovering the corruption Catholisism has thrived on for centuries, especially the evils perpetrated on innocent children – the Pope is doing a great job in showing us just how demented ‘religious’ leaders are. It is my fervent hope that before it is too late the majority will realise the madness ALL of these ‘religions’ are propounding. Other ‘religions’ will not themselves defeat the evil of Islam. Only knowledge, unfettered argument and fre discussion will end the gross stupidity of accepting ancient (or modern!) stories told by con-men whose sole purpose is to avoid a hard day’s work by pushing the opiate we call ‘religion’. There is no God but ‘man’ – and the sooner ‘man’ rejects mysticism and flim–flam carpet bagging priests and snake-oil salesmen passing off as ‘wise men’ only THEN will we realise our dreams and potential – Catholisism is dying, but that has only resulted in a more brutal cult taking its place – the evil Islam. We would do well to start immediately to plan the defeat of that degenerate cult – and quickly. Currently we are not doing a particularly good job of it.
Peacemaker says
Statistically areas Muslim has lower IQ. Good luck to UK student Union.
nicholas tesdorf says
Everyone should read the Qur’an as it will give them a good clue as to the true violent nature of Islam.
Sarah says
I’m only surprised at ‘ZamZam’s’ interest in gaining a tertiary education. (Honestly, ZamZam??)
After all, its all going to be for nought, since according to her, she needs to be married off ASAP and will then spend the rest of her life, raising a huge number of pointless mouth’s to feed, chained to a dingy stove in a council house somewhere in the UK, obeying her husband – her master.
She’s going to want a hubby who shares her ‘purist’ views of Islam, of course. She may well come to regret that. When married to him (he’ll be a Mohammed, you watch) the best case scenario for her will be to hope that he hurries up and takes on a new wife so that he stops coming to her bed every night and being utterly brutal about his ‘marital rights’.
The reality is, he’ll still come to her bed and treat her brutally. And beat her senseless every few days, because God knows she’s got a mouth on her – and a good Muslima never uses her mouth to complain about her husband and master.
I wonder then, when she’s harried, trying to look after 8 kids, quietly panicking at the risk of hubby divorcing her because he’s bored of her, trying to stretch her dole cheque to cover the food bill for those bloody kids and spending an hour each morning in front of the mirror, finding ways to cover her bruises with her hijab and clothing, if she will regret ever leaving school and marrying dipshit Mohammed?
After all – her big reward, as promised from Allah, for putting up for a life of misery at the hands of Mohammed, is to be locked in a tent in Paradise for eternity, to wait (yes, in a tent) so that Mohammed can roam about Paradise doing his own thing and ensure that whenever he returns to their tent, she is always there waiting for him.
Wow. What an inducement to live this life that she brays so aggressively for.
And not a drop of sympathy, can I rummage up for the stupid little witch, given her very own actions and behaviours. May she have a life of misery at the hands of her husband and his family – and an eternity of depressing loneliness, thanks to the worthless ‘God’ she devotes herself to. She’s bringing it all on herself.
Mark Swan says
Good One Sarah.
Sarah says
Thanks Mark!
simpleton1 says
Unfortunately I think many of those woman believe that it is that life they must endure, and they do see it differently to us, so that they can be seen to be in support of Allah and his messenger Mohammad.
They will not cause problems for their man, but most certainly pack on any one considered lower than them. Like another muslim woman not complying with hijab, etc.. Also to pack on any infidel woman.
And of course to be a leading light in showcasing Mohammad’s sayings, actions and deeds, from with in themselves, as points/duties to gaining paradise.
Sarah says
To think differently than this, (which I agree, the vast majority of ‘good’ Muslim women, certainly do) is to display yourself as a self-made martyr. A victim. A victim who will get a pat on a back for so valiantly suffering in silence.
Its called ‘baari’ in Somali culture and its a behaviour which Somali women aspire to show. A woman who is baari is silent, submissive and compliant. She puts up with whatever comes her way. If a woman wears suitable Islamic clothing, is ‘purified’ through FGM, works hard, keeps a clean home, good meals on the table, clean and well behaved silent children, and never says a word against her husband, she is ‘baari’.
Being baari, according to Somali women means that it is behaviour that when displayed, it will please their husbands so that their husbands will be inclined to treat them so much more nicely. Confusingly, if a woman has a husband who beats her, or hurts her in bed, or spends all their money on gambling or whatever – she should just show even MORE baari, not only in the hopes that her husband will change his ways but also so that Allah will look favourably on her. Because the more she suffers NOW, the more Allah will look favourably on her in Paradise.
These mental gymnastics are pretty impressive. Its quite competitive behaviour in Somali culture- who can be the most compliant and submissive and obedient. Who can put up with the most horrendous bullshit from their husbands.
A bunch of pretty cunning male Somali’s dreamt that idea up a very long time ago and did a brilliant job in convincing Somali women culturally that this is the best way to behave. No wonder Somali men don’t work, don’t do anything and always sit about drinking tea and laughing with each other. They’ve got a culture that gets all the womenfolk to compete with each other over who can be the ‘best’ slave and put up with the worst treatment -and do all the work.
These women turn on each other, viciously. These women will openly judge and harass other women who have not undergone FGM. Because being held down as a little girl and having your clitoris and labia scraped off with a dirty rock or blunt knife makes you ‘pure’ and ‘desirable’ and far more baari.
These women are missing some essential key elements of humanity. And these are the women who are raising the future generations. They’re enforcing FGM for their daughters, they’re raising their sons to be little lazy Emperor’s who expect the women to fight amongst themselves over who is more compliant and obedient to any given male.
Its just one rotten element of a culture that is utterly diseased to its very core. The Somali Diaspora has spread to all corners of the globe, thanks to their diseased, failed culture. And these idiots maintain it steadfastly, wherever they emigrate to and raise more generation’s after them, to believe in the same nonsense and rot.
Add in Islam and all of its violent, sadistic cruelties and you get a bunch of men and women who are thoroughly reprehensible individuals. Their values, ethics and morals are obscene, when compared to the Western way of thinking.
Just the very idea of ‘I want to shovel shit all my life because Allah says that as a woman, its good to put up with all manner of miseries – and if I do, Allah will reward me by locking me in a tent in Paradise, so that my husband never has to wait for his wife, when he comes home’ – this very idea should be enough for all these women to throw in the towel and renounce their cultural practices and renounce Islam.
The fact that they do not – and that they wholeheartedly support it and steadfastly resist any change or even criticism about it, speaks volumes as to their value as human beings.
Allah also said that most women end up going to Hell. And the majority of women who end up in Hell – are the pool that Allah drains when he is providing 68 of his 72 virgins to each of his Jihadi Martyrs who die, fighting in Allah’s name.
So. Spend the one life you get in misery, to wind up either being locked in a tent for eternity OR going to Hell and whilst your burning in agony, waiting for Allah to pick you and give you as a sex slave for eternity to a violent murderer, as a reward.
HOW CAN ANY WOMAN ON THE PLANET BELIEVE IN ISLAM??????
simpleton1 says
Thanks Sarah, in giving some insight to the understanding of a muslima mind.
It seems very difficult for the ordinary western mind to grasp, as it defies our understanding of commonsense
Paul F Austin says
She got elected because the English ‘students’ have not only deserted their country but also their heritage. They are lazy, self-centred, guileless, mumbling morons who do not deserve to be given a bald cent to finance their ‘studies’. We would do well to reintroduce national service to give them at least a taste of personal cleanliness and self-discipline. They make me physically sick when I see them parading to support every cause EXCEPT hard work. Fifty percent of them should leave their ‘media studies’ and other useless subjects and get down to learning how to become more useful members of society; plumbers; electricians; carpenters; and many other trades which are truly the backbone of this country.
John Forbes says
The other thing that has happened is a good dose of MULTICULTURALISM has purposely set out to disparage & negate British History & demand a good dose of the GUILTS about everything!
Then came POLITICAL CORRECTNESS – Backed by the RACIST TAGS & fear of job loss was completed & FREE SPEECH is stopped !
NOW rather than face the TRUE issues of the HATRED taught by ISLAM- shut up & JAIL the INFORMERS or IGNORE THEM !
Leadership – WHERE ???????????
Paul F Austin says
John Forbes – eloquent and truthful to the core – would that just SOME of our ‘students’ end their sojourn at University with the ability you have , in a few brief words, to sum up the decadence that is with us and which I am sad to say will be our downfall – Yiur words are some consolation at least. Thank you!
Paul F Austin says
Sarah is the epitome of female lateral thinking – if only there were more Sarah’s about – MANY of them – what a different breed we would have in our Universities; articulate, clever, shrewd, sensible and clearly a fine person. It is beyond my ken how fools such as the Muslim ZamZam can end up being in ANY position of influence. I do hope, as Sarah has forecast, that she does end up with half a dozen piccaninnys peeing all over her hijab with a typically brutal master grinding her into the ground – it is only what she richly deserves. Perhaps then she may, for her sins, try to deter her brood from staying tied to the slavery of Islam but I fear she will be giving succour to another brood of potential terrorists. Gawd ‘elp us!
Sarah says
Thanks Paul! 🙂
ZamZam won’t be in a position of influence over anyone, other than a half melted spatula and a brood of unruly kids running amok and making life a misery for the others in the tenement building they live in. Even then, with her own brood, she won’t have any control or influence over the boys, only the girls.
She’s too focused on Islam and spreading Islam and being a good Muslim. As a woman, her only path is servitude. As a Somali woman, her only path is to be baari. As soon as she marries, she becomes a nonentity to the world. Right now, in her little job as a President of a Student Association – this is quite a high aspiration that she has achieved, and its simply as far as someone like her will ever go.
I know this sounds awful, but let’s face it – the Somali’s have done nothing great or notable for the world. They tore their own nation apart thanks to their own culture. They have spread far and wide across the planet and keep that diseased culture alive – but they do not innovate, they do not create, they do not contribute in a valuable way to the world.
They breed, they fight, they consume. They rape and assault and kill. But they do not become Scientists or Engineers or Doctors. The do not become senior Politicians or Engineers or Lawyers or even Commercial Airline Pilots. They do not serve in the military, they do not do anything – but breed, consume, fight, rape and assault and enclave. They’re very very good at enclaving and lining up for welfare queues.
I’m more worried about Muslims from other nation’s across the Middle East, North Africa and Asia for getting into pole positions and causing problems for us all. The Somali’s aren’t capable of it – by their own actions and behaviours.
Paul F Austin says
Sarah – Anyone who wishes to learn about or try to understand the ‘Somalian System’? Pay a visit to West London, Ealing, Southall etc. State of the art baby prams, cloned; state of the art cosmetics, cloned; startof the art clothing, cloned; state of the art Welfare Claims; and then comes the breeding; of course once a girl reaches twelve years, having gone through the FGM process, she then becomes a ‘baby-machine’ – blocking up hospital beds; medical processes etc, etc, etc. The current birth rate is about four or six to one compared with English mothers (if there are any left!) And so the process of Islamification goes on, and on, and on…….Where will,it end? Not difficult to work out. More ‘University places’ ( my dog could qualify for one of our colleges or Universities these days!) and more Somalian/Muslim student Chairpersons. Whole swathes of London ( dont listen to the media or the press!) are now Muslim enclaves and our dystopian conversion to Islam continues unabated. Not to mention who it is who controls the housing departments – welfare payouts and schools. Ah, well – “as ye sow – so shall ye reap” – farewell sweet England!! Social self-inflicted wounds abound. The whole scenario is frightening, for me – for Muslims? Utopia achieved!
Sarah says
Paul – I am glad, that I am Aussie. We do not have a large Somali population. We have some, but not these large communities that the rest of the West is experiencing. Frankly, I don’t know why we have any. We are hardly the nearest ‘safe’ nation as per the UN Refugee Convention Act.
I would be sickened, if I heard of those things happening my nation. As it is, you only have to go to Western Sydney or Western Melbourne and the hospitals there are receiving a steady stream of Middle Eastern and Sudanese Muslims who are birthing like rabbits on steroids.
But the unique greed and undeserving consumption seen from the Somali communities, isn’t a big thing here – yet, anyway. But corruption, tax dodging and welfare abuse abounds amongst the other Muslim communities. It seems wherever you find enclaves of Muslims, you find families with ridiculous numbers of children, all sucking on the welfare teat for life.
I’m back at Uni again,doing a career change. I first attended around 12 years ago. The changes between then and now in terms of University culture – and the quality of education received has degraded noticeably. I took a Gender Studies class last year, just to see if its really as bad as people are saying – with the pushing of certain propaganda; and I was disgusted. I wound up abandoning Feminism (as a lifelong formerly proud Feminist) because of school – and because of the direction that Feminism has taken thanks to the Left.
I do not speak my views at school, because as a white woman in my mid 30s – my views make me a reprehensible person, apparently. Given I’m now in Medical School and hoping to eventually be a Doctor one day, I’d scare the hell out of many of them – the very thought of a Doctor in society with my views is a nightmare to them. Apparently Doctors have to be Lefty’s these days?
And Housing is the same here. We see a lot of your problems, just on a far smaller scale (so far anyway). We were smart enough to learn from the whole fake asylum seeker nonsense and refused to accept them on boats- why won’t our Politicians (and the Lefty crowd) take example from the EU and its members? Because what is happening to you guys WILL happen here.
The ONLY thing that has saved us so far is the reality that Muslims make up around 2% of our population. That’s it. Given the way they breed- that number is growing daily – and of course, those who emigrate here (now by plane rather than boat) because their families living here tell them all about our great welfare and free healthcare.
Its enough to sicken you. We are destroying ourselves – and for not a single good or justifiable reason.
Paul F Austin says
Sarah – excellent post – thanks for the time and explanation – another totally lucid description of how things are – and indeed perhaps the ‘shape of things to come’. Of course being English I feel a great affinity with the old Commonwealth and those great people who established law and order among those great antipodian communities who have been a credit to the white race. I see a reckoning on the horizon – from which very few countries will be immune. The cultures are so different, the standards so very far apart and most of all the aims of Islam and between our Judeo/Christian background and Islam is a veritable chasm will will only get wider as Muslims start becoming more embedded into our Governments local and national. I call them a fifth column, to coin a phrase. You in Australia will probably survive due to your affiliation and trade agreements with China (however abhorrent to some that may seem at present) it could be your salvation. America with its insane Welfare System surely cannot survive its extremes between races – and Obama of course has seeded the States and Government with an obscene number of Muslims already. Huma Abedin being a perfect example! I am not being maudlin, but I shall fairly soon “shuffle off this mortal coil” and my cry is “death where is thy sting”? I never dreamed I would view the end with some relief – I have always been such a positive character. I look around me and cannot see how the West will survive its foolish death-wish politicians. By sheer weight of numbers there will be three ‘forces’ to dispute the future direction of the world – Islam, China and India. Not only is Europe in decline it is committing suicide and fools such as Merkel and her henchmen are it seems hell-bent on self-destruction. At least the U.K. since it is leaving/left the EU may have something of a breathing space but that will be short-lived. Cowards abound. The monied will capitulate just to save their own skins and their ill-gotten fortunes – their backbones are made of columns of bitcoins. Whoever first used the term Armageddon was pretty prescient – once more the earth will be governed by natural forces – and for me? We don’t deserve as semi-educated animals – very much more! Good luck with your aspirations. Keep your head down – and your chin up, gel!
gravenimage says
+1
Laura says
By now we all know what’s in the muslim unholy book and it’s nothing that will benefit the world, or even muslims themselves, due to the many variations of the same ‘religious’ beliefs.
All religions are based on myth, sophistry, deceit and stories that cannot possibly be true, so for muslims to claim that they killed ‘for Allah’ is preposterous, dishonest and repugnant. Muslim killers are simply barbaric murderers.
We can’t fight islam with another religion, and certainly not with one that advocates ‘turning the other cheek’ and forgiving those who attack us.
No, it’s very simple, we have to go after them before they come after us, and come after us they most certainly will, if we do nothing.
Michael Copeland says
“This wretched book … I have been unable to discover in it one single idea of value.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
Barry says
In so many ways you are so off base regarding Christianity, Laura. Jesus is in fact the image of the invisible God. You trivialize turning the other cheek as you do…you totally miss the point. What a deeply profound concept coming from Jesus. HE meant that when someone ridicules you and says /speaks all kinds of evil about you, then let it roll off your back like water on a duck. If a jihadi comes after me with a weapon to harm/ kill me, as a Christian and a human being endowed with internal instincts of self preservation, well that jihadi had better be ready to meet his allah, who is in reality Satan.
Paul F Austin says
Barry ! The fact is that Laura is a realist – not some creature dreamt up by JK Rowling or the other story-tellers of yore who made their few quid out of deceiving the simple minded masses. The days of myth and magic are gone – the ‘priesthood’ has been sussed out. Preying, at the highest level, on the meek and trusting. Callous purveyors of clap-trap collecting monies by which to shore up the Catholic prelates’ citadels with bricks of solid gold, stolen from the ‘faithful’ – what a game! In their place we now have allowed into our lives a parallel mob of self-made zealots who, having seen the success in terms of wealth past ‘churches’ have acquire from the poor and trusting, feel,it is now their turn on the ‘merry-go-round’ of power and wealth and conquest to serve THEIR turn at deception in the search for glory. One as bad as the other and the sooner they are all brought to their knees – the better we realists can get on with our lives an leave the fairy stories to JKR and her magic formulae. Wake up Barry, adolescence is over!
Carolyne says
Yes, Laura. I agree that one cannot defeat Islam with another imagined supernatural being. If we do not “Take up arms” against Islam and not expect to be saved by pie in the sky when we die, we are lost. This is the 21st century and surely it is time for humans to no longer dream up or even need super heroes to explain life. They do not exist.
Paul F Austin says
Laura – a voice, like Sarah, in the wilderness of wish-washy do-gooders hell-bent on turning the world into an obnoxious swamp dominated by brutish Muslim ‘men’ – I use the term very loosely – it is simply beyond me how ANY woman can give themselves to these beastly self-important vile heathens who treat most women as slaves to their bidding. Where on earth are the feminists? Where are the seething mobs of women from the sixties, seventies and eighties who demanded equality? Have they too become chattels?
Michael says
Heathens? Arguably, the Bible is historical metaphysics in the form of story.
Anne Smith says
Why is a Swedish Somali in Britain at all? Did Sweden become too uncomfortable? Too many violent Muslim males?
WPM says
British colleges have a higher profile to give her propaganda more media air and print time. The smiling face and white teeth of a “student” stooge, playing on white guilt of upper class British naïve students. I wonder who bank rolls her studies at this college, my guess would be the taxpayers of England. What are her majors basket weaving and Terrorist Propaganda?
parmenides jones says
The Australian Catholic Cardinal Pell has been in the news recently and it looks like he may be forced to return to Australia and talk to the authorities about some outstanding matters. Well, whatever happens, happens. But, I recall some years ago he was on the national broadcaster’s Sunday night religious programme, in a panel discussion with a Jewish religious leader and an Imam/Mufti. The discussion circled around the topic of faith and religion and religious observance in Australia. At one point, Pell remarked that he found nothing whatever in Islam that can be viewed as consonant with Christianity.
I remember I looked at my radio and thought ‘Whoa There’s gonna be a shitstorm over that remark…. ”
But it was such a naked proclamation it could not be aired today, I bet.
John Forbes says
So FRIGHTENED ARE the BRITISH & all EUROPEAN NATIONS of ISLAM that they simply refuse to even EXAMINE the ISSUES !
A Great example of this is the DESPICABLE Cowards on the BBC Panel Y& AMBER the COWARD RUDD who when confronted with a HANDED OUT LEAFLET from a LONDON MOSQUE disparaging DEMOCRACY as DECADENT , having no HONOUR & then a YOUNG MUSLIM Lady stating that there is an ELEPHANT in the room (WAHABI FUNDED MOSQUES ) & recommended that they be CLOSED for at least 6 months – ACCEPTED the OUTRIGHT LIES of a MOSQUE GOWER & PLANT in the audience & MOVED the CONVERSATION away !
This utter coward (THE DUD RUDD) then stated that she & her TEAM were working tirelessly to protect the PUBLIC but neglected to say that she & HER TEAM were unable to STOP the MUSLIM CHILD RAPING INDUSTRY & Could not track RADICAL IMAMS in the UK ??????????? God what a MESS the RULING CLASS have got the UK INTO !!
John Forbes says
PELL – for all of his faults is RIGHT ! WALID ALI & CARLAND will instantly demand a retraction & this will be backed by MALCOLM the UNREAD !!
FYI says
Sure, read the koran if you want.. but before you do so…. please do the following:-
1)Read the ORIGINAL COMMANDMENTS OF GOD;an enumerated listing.You won’t find that in the koran of course{allah in his perfect book didn’t bother to provide that:perhaps because if muslims found God’s Commandments in the koran they would see how wrong the koran is}
Note that God does not equivocate:God says NO to murder,stealing,lying adultery etc.
God’s laws are very simple and very,very clear.Any equivocations are certainly man-made.
e.g a muslim holy man who insists that sharia law allows him to stone a woman to death for adultery(..but to God that holy man is a murderer and will be condemned as such.God’s commandments are supreme over any religious law!!)
e.g A false prophet has a great dream that God tells him its ok to be a polygamist.
(No!God does not encourage sinfulness,carnality or immorality.That’s a neat trick by a holy man to break God’s laws to claim that God is Ok with something that is wrong.The polygamy trick is ALWAYS the sign of a false prophet.)
2)Read the koran and see what allah teaches.
Compare allah’s teachings with God’s Commandments.
{What does allah teach} versus {God’s ORIGINAL COMMANDMENTS}
Does allah agree with God’s laws?
No!
allah is ok with murder(as long as it is the murder of infidels) k2;191
allah is ok with polygamy
allah is ok with a devout muslim commiting adultery(as long as it is with an infidel slave woman)k33:50,Bukhari 5:268
allah is ok with stealing(as long as it is from infidels)k48:20,Ibn Ishaq 764
allah is ok with using lying{“bearing FALSE witness”} tricks like taqqiya etc
allah is ok with coveting your neighbor’s goods/wife
allah is ok with muslims praying towards a meteorite stone in mecca.
These are all either equivocations or direct violations of God’s ORIGINAL COMMANDMENTS.
Does allah say that it is OK to break God’s Commandments
Oh Yes!
3)After reading the koran go back and read those ORIGINAL COMMANDMENTS again.
Here are some interesting questions to ask…
Do you see the enormous herd of elephants in the the room of islam?
Why did allah omit the Two Chief Commandments found in Judaism and Christianity but missing in islam?
Why does allah say it is Ok to break God’s commandments?
Doesn’t the fact that allah disagree with God’s commandments show that allah is not the same as God?
In fact isn’t allah in opposition to God when He tells his followers that it is Ok to murder,lie,steal etc?
How come allah gets everything wrong?
Who does allah of the silly 99 names in his perfect book with his perfect prophet think he is fooling when compared to Almighty God, the Alpha and Omega when he
curses the Jews and the Christians?
koran 9:30
koran 3:56 {allah promises to inflict a terrible agony on Jews,Christians,pagans,atheists etc}
Geppetto says
“Ms Ibrahim was also recently elected to the National Union of Students Block of 15 committee….”
This is far more worrisome than Ms Ibrahim”s radical, Islamist views.
Carolyne says
As I recall, the patriarchs of the bible were themselves polygamists so FYI might wish to rethink that portion of his homily for today.
Carolyne says
Also I think it is necessary to understand that a Muslim’s belief in Allah is just as firm and unrelenting as a Christian’s belief in their God. Trying to convince a Muslim that his Allah is false is just as futile as trying to convince a Christian of the same. Approaching Islam in this way would achieve nothing.
Michael says
‘their God’ Anything that comes after Christianity would have to be better than Christianity. How is Islam better than Christianity?
Clara says
Only in progressive, multicultural and appeasing Britain where anything goes…
Manual Paleologos says
I agree with her. Everyone should read the koran. It’s not all that long, nor is it a hard read. I keep an electronic copy on my hard drive.
It teaches you, in blood curdling detail, just how evil and perverted the moslem religion is.
Richard James says
I’m not religious but instead of them saying we should read quran how about they read the bible