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Washington Post Spreads More Comforting Falsehoods about Islam

Jul 9, 2017 10:14 am By Andrew Harrod

“I am not a scholar actually. I am just somebody who reads,” stated Ayaz Virji, MD, concerning his knowledge of his Islamic faith during a March 2017 community presentation in Dawson, Minnesota. Nonetheless, the Washington Post found in his superficiality no objection to giving him a recent online puff-piece profile (republished, above the fold, on the July 2 Sunday front page) in yet another mainstream media whitewash of Islam.

Virji’s March lecture was one of his several presentations on Islam in recent months in western Minnesota’s small towns, including his home of Dawson. As he explained to the Post and local Minnesota media, Virji’s joy in living since 2014 in warmly welcoming Dawson turned to gloom in 2016. Presidential election results showed that Donald Trump, an “Islamophobic” bête noire for many Muslims, had won rural Minnesota by significant margins.

Not surprising given her background, Post reporter Stephanie McCrummen’s Virji profile assumes that “Trump voters must be flawed people — bigoted, ignorant or both,” as Minnesota conservative John Hinderaker noted in his critique at Powerline. Her previous writing has sanitized the Muslim Brotherhood’s Supreme Guide Mohammed Badie, notwithstanding his al Qaeda-like goals. By contrast, concerning Republicans, she is known for her strained smears associating Texas governor and presidential candidate Rick Perry with a notorious racial epithet, and for presenting a mentally imbalanced woman as a typical Trump supporter.

Contrary to Hinderaker, McCrummen does not offer any correction to Virji’s distortions of matters such as the statements on Islam by one-time Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Both in the Post story and in an Independence Day podcast for a local Minnesota radio station, Virji imagined without rebuttal “burning mosques” in America, and in the podcast he claimed that Trump “wants to put me on a registry” for Muslims. This fake news misrepresents the Trump Administration proposals to revive programs for monitoring people from mostly majority-Muslim countries with high terrorism risks.

The intern pastor at Dawson’s Grace Lutheran Church, Mandy France, appears also to have worries other than critical inquiry into Islam, as her remarks surrounding Virji’s March presentation indicate. As she explained in the YouTube event recording and to local media, she organized his speaking appearances as part of her internship project with a desire to “bring an end to Islamophobia.” Her opening comments to the audience could seem to counteract her proclaimed acceptance of controversy: “Think before you speak. Could that be interpreted as hateful or rude, and if so, choose a different word please.”

Following France, Virji’s rambling address presents considerable fake Islamic theology, such as the ubiquitous false equivalence between violent verses in the Old Testament and Quran. Contrary to critical studies, he makes the common assertion that jihadists in groups such as the Islamic State merely “are insane. They are poor, unlearned.” Noting the Arabic etymology of sharia as the “path to life-giving water,” he described this Islamic law as solely an “understanding of how to elevate yourself spiritually.” Islam’s prophet “Muhammad never imposed sharia….It cannot be imposed,” Virji stated, a view that would have certainly surprised Islam’s subjugated dhimmis throughout history.

The sources of Virji’s Islamic knowledge remain obscure, as his comments betray a strong, un-Islamic Christian influence upon his life, such as his intensive Bible readings. He attended a Lutheran school in Florida from kindergarten to the tenth grade, where he developed a strong relationship with a Lutheran pastor. Influenced by his father, Virji has embraced the ecumenical conclusion that “all religions are trying to come to Him [God] from different angles.”

The one authority Virji cites is hardly reassuring, namely Georgetown University Professor John Voll, under whom Virgi studied as a Georgetown undergraduate. During his studies, Voll was associate director of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding (CMCU), an institution that received a $20 million gift from Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal in 2005 that transformed it into the Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding. The resulting ACMCU has become in later years an even more notorious center of Islamic apologetics. In addition to Voll’s own radical associations, Voll has defended convicted jihad terror supporter Sami Al-Arian, and has made unconvincing arguments for the compatibility between Islam and democracy.

Apparently Virji has taken Voll’s sophistry to heart, as Virji’s online post-presentation question responses demonstrate. “During the time of Mohammad, Christians, Jews, atheists and pagans lived together without religious persecution,” he wrote, in laughable ignorance of facts such as Muhammad’s decree that the Arabian Peninsula should only contain Muslims. “Even when the Muslims reconquered Mecca (took back what was stolen from them [Who says the Kaaba was stolen?]) they did so without one drop of blood,” Virji added. While his presentation equated websites criticizing Islam such as The Religion of Peace (TROP) with jihadist groups such as al-Qaeda, TROP provides a clear rebuttal of his false Meccan history.

Virji’s fantasies continue with his contention that “Islam forbids killing in all circumstances except in a defensive war” respecting noncombatants. Scholars such as University of Haifa Professor David Bukay have documented in detail (see here, here, and here) Islamic jihad as an offensive doctrine that has served Islam’s claim to be humanity’s one true faith. Islamic noncombatant definitions also have a troubling elasticity, as al-Qaeda has shown.

Despite Virji’s claim based on FBI studies that non-Muslims have perpetrated 94 percent of American terrorist attacks between 1980 and 2005, violent Islamic doctrines have modern effects. Muslims are merely one percent of America’s population, yet a study of American terrorism in the years 1990-2016 still disproportionately notes that “if you remove two outlier events—the September 11th [2001] terrorist attacks and the Oklahoma City Bombing—far-right extremists have killed more than twice as many people (272) as Islamist extremists (130)” — a claim often used to minimize the gravity of the jihad terror threat, but which actually only shows that Muslims in the U.S. are responsible for terror attacks far out of proportion to their numbers.

Europol analysis of European Union terrorism for 2016 shows an even greater disproportion between Europe’s larger Muslim populations and terrorism:

Member States reported that 142 victims died as a result of terrorist attacks and 379 people were injured.  Nearly all reported fatalities [specifically 135] and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Virji is also oblivious to the political goals of such jihadist violence as he answers the question whether the “majority of Muslims respect/tolerate other religions” with “If they don’t then they are not practicing Islam.” He declares that “Islam does regard itself as a theocracy,” yet somehow “Mohammad condemned monarchy or dictatorship-style government” as “contrary to Islam’s teaching.” Euphemizing the ayatollahs’ Iran as a “republic,” Virji writes that “there are 400,000 Christians (300 churches) and about 10,000 Jews living peacefully in Iran. I wonder why the media does not tell you this.”

Someone should tell Virji about the severe religious repression afflicting Iranian Christians, Jews, and others in a country defined by its post-1979 constitution as an “Islamic Republic.” As critical observers have analyzed, the “Iranian Constitution established an Islamic theocracy.” The stoning of adulterers shows that the Iranian “drafters of the penal code had apparently consulted the seventh century for legal advice.” Various constitutional provisions subordinate human rights to Islam and commit Iran’s Islamic republic to a global jihad.

Notwithstanding Iran’s example, Virji gushes that “Islamic Shariah was the first legal system to formally give women the right to vote [for sharia under a caliphate?], the right to own property and the right to divorce their husband.” While he attributes Middle Eastern women’s rights violations to “tribalism roots” and not numerous Islamic canonical sources, the Quran stipulates that daughters shall inherit half the share of sons. Islamic doctrines making divorce exceedingly easy for husbands, but extremely onerous for wives, also severely disadvantage the latter, as modern Egypt demonstrates.

Virji similarly apparently misunderstands the question: “If a Muslim woman is raped, does she need men to be her witnesses?” He responds that the “perpetrator would be deemed innocent until proven guilty. Witnesses could be male or female or strong circumstantial, no different than in a U.S. Court.” Unaddressed by Virji, yet presumably more pertinent to the questioners, Islamic canons absurdly hold that a female rape victim requires four male witnesses to convict a rapist absent his confession.

Virji’s example demonstrates that, almost sixteen years after 9/11, establishment media like McCrummen and the Washington Post are still vainly trying to glorify Islam as a “religion of peace,” not submission. Yet his witting or unwitting delusions become more fraudulent with Islam’s repeated unsettling appearance in every passing news cycle. Ultimately the simple, polite Trump voters in the land of Lake Wobegon know better.

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  1. john spielman says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 10:33 am

    islam, the religion of the god who lies -taqiyya

    • Andy says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 11:23 am

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFH-0lTE4Ho

      https://www.therebel.media/save-the-five

      • Andy says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 2:48 pm

        Omar Khadr, the Truth about what happened in Afganistan .

        • Andy says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 2:55 pm

          Veteran Blinded By Omar Khadr Says Trudeau Guilty Of Treason

          http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/09/veteran-blinded-by-omar-khadr-says-trudeau-guilty-of-treason/

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 9:38 pm

          Thanks for the link, Andy.

    • Shan says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 1:14 am

      Yap, lies but also half-truth. For instance:

      According to Virji: “During the time of Mohammad, Christians, Jews, atheists and pagans lived together without religious persecution,”

      The above statement is true only when mohammad was still a pagan, i.e. before he became the “prophet” of islam. When islam was introduced by mohammed as warlord in medina, the above statement becomes false when using it to defend islam. Persecution of non-muslims, i.e. infidels, became the focal point under islam until none exist in Arabia to this day.

    • Andy says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 2:33 am

      MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP!

      Trump Sends Huge ‘F You’ To G20 Dictators On Last Day Of Summit After He Saw What They ALL Did

  2. Paul F Austin says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 10:40 am

    The greatest problem the West has in combating Islamic apologists is that the West needs to not promote Christian fundamentalist but Agnostics and Atheists in their defence of free speech. The extremes of Christian preachers and ‘priests’ is ofttimes as abhorrent as Islamic preachers and Imams. What the public craves is for an element of ‘reasonableness’ to be propounded rather than the reliance on ‘faith’ and ‘beliefs’ of both Muslims and Christians. The elementary difference between Islamic extremism and Christian extremism is that the Christians are not blood-lusting or built on military as well as religious CONQUEST. So, if I WERE forced to make a choice then clearly my choice would lean towards Christianity.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 11:13 am

      I agree. There are a few atheists who are very critical of Islam. Sam Harris, Pat Condell, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Dave Rubin, and the late Christopher Hitchens come to mind.

      My book — The Savvy Kafir’s Intro to Islam: A Primer for Puzzled Progressives — is written from the POV of a militant religious skeptic.

      And recently a few nonbelievers have been posting comments on Jihad Watch — a very welcome development, I’d say.

      • mccode says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 12:22 pm

        The late, great Christopher Hitchens.was without equal. I thoroughly enjoy watching him debate and eviscerate unwary opponents, now only available as historical documentations. I wish I could have seen him in person. A superior intellect and voice was lost when he passed away.

    • Kepha says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      Promote “atheists” and “agnostics” as promoters of free speech? You mean, those wonderful people who play the moral equivalence game at every turn, and promote “hate speech” codes to protect their political clients?

      • Karen says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 11:59 pm

        Excellent point Kepha!

        A great blog post I read recently defines an atheist this way; a person in opposition to religious ideology based on reason and principle … except for Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 12:01 am

          Not all Atheists are like this–there are Atheists here at Jihad Watch who both respect Christianity and oppose Jihad–including long-time Jihad Watch contributor Hugh Fitzgerald.

        • Karen says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm

          You are absolutely right, and I have a great appreciation for them. My statement was a bit broad because it seems all too often I hear quite a bit of cheerleading from atheist quarters when it comes to Islam. I suppose many atheists view Islam as an ally, and something in opposition to Christianity and Judaism, the religions they oppose the most.

          But thanks for the reminder that there are many, many principled atheist voices out there, and at JW.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:09 pm

          Thanks for the reply, Karen. 🙂

      • PRCS says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 1:08 am

        I assure you, Kepha, your definition does not apply to this atheist.

        And, Karen, when it comes to Islam–I know who would cut my head off; and why.

        • Karen says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 12:33 pm

          Understood, thank you.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 1:43 pm

          You’re welcome.

          No problem.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:13 pm

          +1

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 9:41 pm

      What Christians are preaching the slaughter of unbelievers? Examples, please.

  3. tedh754 says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 10:43 am

    How can you tell when a Muslim is lying? I’m sure the rest of you know the end to that riddle.

  4. Bill says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 10:51 am

    What I have always been curious about is how moderate muslims reconcile their relationship to their religion with what the religion professes to command or demand of them. There are moderate muslims but is that because they have simply chosen to ignore the words of the Koran? Whether it is Turkey’s Erdogan, the Iranian mullahs or any other number of Imams quoted here, they unashamedly will tell you that there is no such thing as extreme Islam, just Islam — that the violence, deception and continuing efforts to convert and dominate, is the real Islam.

    So what are the moderate muslims practicing? Can they only practice Islam that way in secular or Christian societies?

    • Michelle N says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      There are two branches of Muslims which are the Sunni and the Shiite. One believes that Muhammad and his word is it and there’s no diverting. They believe that only the purest of instruction comes only from the descendents of Muhammad. The other believe that their Imams (preachers) do not have to be direct descendents and their Imams tend to be more with the times. Sociology also plays a part in where someone lives and how that impacts their social and cultural beliefs and practices. The bottom line is that there’s a real difference between westernized Muslims and those coming from the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and India and unless people start understanding that they are truly fundamentalist, we are all in deep crap

      • Budvarakbar says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 3:39 pm

        “Moderate Muslims”??? — an absurd illusion

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 9:46 pm

        Michelle, both Sunnis and Shia believe that Infidels may be slaughtered if they do not submit to Islam.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 3:40 pm

      “Moderate Muslims”??? — an absurd illusion

      • PRCS says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 1:38 am

        Let’s just admit that there ARE moderate Muslims, and help our friends and neighbors understand what activity hose Muslims are engaged in: cherry picking.

    • Kepha says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm

      For some, the job of reconciliation is simply too hard and they respond in faith to the Gospel.

  5. Karen says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 10:58 am

    The ACLU, the Democratic Party, and other organizations use this same tactic; send an articulate person of no official standing around to the talk shows and other media and public events to represent them, but very unofficially. This is a brilliant strategy; if they make a mistake, well, they are not official spokespersons, and cast no disgrace on the organization. And as ‘amateurs’ they are held to a lower standard, or no standard at all of expertise. They often impress audiences by ‘speaking from the heart’ of their own experience, versus offering hard core facts or critical analysis.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 11:20 am

      Agree with Karen. Good analogy. And what’s friendlier than a nice doctor? However, this doctor wants to enslave you under discriminatory Sharia law.

    • PRCS says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 11:55 am

      A low risk strategy, as so few in the audience would know that a mistake had been made or what questions to ask.

  6. mortimer says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Ayaz Virji is a verbal jihadist who hides, conceals and disguises the meaning, motive and methods of Islam’s hatred of kafirs, and goal of conquest through jihad.

    In Islam, lying to kafirs to accomplish the holy war of conquest is ‘good’. ALL Muslims are verbal jihadists and disinform about jihad, unless they have left Islam.

    • PRCS says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      Really?

      So, Anjem Choudary was disinforming about jihad?

      Ayman al Zawahari?
      Usama bin Laden?
      Yusuf al-Qaradawi?
      Omar Abdel-Rahman?

      • commonsense says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 1:50 pm

        You are certainly right – Choudry is forthright and honest about Islam, and I am grateful for his candor, although he is, as an orthodox Muslim, ineluctably vile as a human being. The same can be said about the others you name, but let’s face it – most Muslim apologists, spokespersons, and interlocutors are, in fact, liars who practice taqiyya, kitman, and other forms of sacralized misrepresentation of Islam to fool and confuse unbelievers. Mortimer is still, in essence, correct.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 8:03 pm

          The assertion that ALL Muslims disinform about jihad, unless they have left Islam.” is simply not true.

          Most might have been a better word choice.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:16 pm

          Taqiyya is just a tactic–used if Muslims believe that deceiving the Infidels is needed; not if they are sufficiently emboldened.

    • SAM says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      Muslims whether from ignorance or by takiya numb American people constantly telling how wonderful the religion of peace is. In the end it has the same impact that we lower our guards and even we try to protect that “moderate” Muslim from any harm. So any Muslim is really our enemy doing the same thing trying to expand this evil cult under which no one can have any freedom.

      How are we going to eradicate this evil cult I am not sure.

      • Santa Voorhees says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 12:47 pm

        “How are we going to eradicate this evil cult I am not sure”

        The first step is to overthrow the Left.

        • mgoldberg says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 1:54 pm

          Simply quote the Quran.
          Then simply show the history
          Then after all the projecting by leftists,myslims repeat again and again.
          Rinse and repeat

    • Kepha says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 5:07 pm

      Ayaz Virji apparently went to a Lutheran school when young (a reason why he feels at home in Minnesota?), his father believed in tolerance and accommodation with the Kufr (whom he probably found more congenial than fellow believers somewhere in South Asia), and is there even the slightest shred of evidence that Ayaz Virji can even understand the Arabic prayers he here’s in the Mosque?

      Maybe he’s absolutely sincere–and perhaps a prime example of either a “cafeteria Muslim” or one who is utterly ignorant about what his religion is really about.

      However, for what Islam really is, I prefer to hear those educated at Al Azhar and Qom–and our esteemed blog host–neither the “happen to be” American Muslims and the WashComPost.

      • PRCS says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 1:14 am

        I was particularly impressed with Anjem Choudary’s straight forward, no holds barred, explanation of Islam.

        Too many, unfortunately, call him an “extremist” rather than an honest Muslim.

    • simpleton1 says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      All or most?.

      Mohammad caters for both ! ! as this is one of the abrogating verses

      By degrees shall We teach thee to declare (the Message), so thou shalt not forget, Except as Allah wills: For He knoweth what is manifest and what is hidden.
      Qur’an 87:6-7

      The muslims are at different stages. This “dirties the water” on what is being explained, just as ahamaddyas also “muddy the waters” in covering for islam even though they are peaceful, and not even 1% of muslims.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 9:55 pm

      Taqiyya is just a tactic. The “Slow Jihadists”–as Hugh Fitzgerald so memorably described them–practice it; and the more emboldened “Fast Jihadists” no longer consider it necessary.

      But their end goals–the triumph of Islam, the submission of Infidels, and the imposition of Shari’ah law–are just the same.

      • PRCS says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 11:56 pm

        Let’s call it Islamic law in order to help eliminate our slow friends/neighbors’ confusion about the issue.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 11:57 pm

          Put the words Islam and Muslim in the discussion whenever possible.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 8:18 pm

        I’m not sure how are confused about Shari’ah law–but Islamic law works, as well.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 11, 2017 at 2:07 am

          More of a lightning bolt.

  7. wm1 says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    “all religions are trying to come to Him [God] from different angles.”

    Which is, precisely, why they never reach Him. There’s only one way. Jesus said, “I am THE WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through ME!”
    (John 14:6)

    Either Jesus is a lunatic, a liar or HE IS LORD!

    • TL says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      False dichotomy. Prophet Mo taught that Jesus the Messiah, who was no god, will return to Earth and slay al-Masīh ad-Dajjāl, the antimessiah.

      Yes, I’m arguing that Islam is a sect of Christianity and that Muslims are Christians no less than any Trinitarian, Arian, or Nestorian. Just look at how often Jesus is mentioned in the Koran. It’s more than 150 times, more than once per chapter, as we might expect in a religious text which is sympathetic to Jesus and his mother. It’s by the way that Mary is revered in Islam far more than in Protestantism, which is another heresy spawned by the Roman church. Muhammadist Christians believe also in reincarnation from the grave.

      • Terry Gain says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 2:52 pm

        Muslims don’t believe Christ is God. Islam is incoherent about Christ and Mary. You are ignorant.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 9:43 pm

        Of course, TL doesn’t tell you that the Muslim “Jesus” is also slaughters Christians in the last days. But then, he doesn’t want you to know that.

      • Timothy says

        Jul 11, 2017 at 12:37 am

        I don’t think you are ignorant but deceptive. And there lies the whole problem: “Prophet Mo taught that Jesus the Messiah, who was no god…” Also odd is your claim regarding Trinitarian, Arian, and Nestorian ideals as sects of Christianity. The latter two are at odds with the first and are considered heretical in the scope of the Trinitarian Church. Read the Athanasian Creed sometime. We believe in the resurrection of the body: as it was done to Christ so it will be done with us. (Hint: that isn’t reincarnation and it sure doesn’t have anything to do with “Prophet mo”…who is still DEAD where Jesus is not dead but alive.)

        The Christian believes the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. When a mohammedan or even many other so called Christians claim this statement as truth, then there will be peace. I expect this only after the final judgement when it will be too late.

        • Timothy says

          Jul 11, 2017 at 12:39 am

          Sorry – my page was refreshed.
          I left out that the Trinitarian statement does not claim there are three Gods but one God. Again, refer to the Athanasian Creed.

  8. Westman says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    Let’s suppose we accept the lie that Islam is a religion that specifies peace above all else and that the Old Testament is as nasty about human rights as the Quran.

    Such equivalence would predict hundreds of thousands of Christians, in roving bands, comitting atrocities in the name of, “Jesus,The Greatest!”. However, those seeing Jesus as the greatest go quietly about their lives, don’t tell their Muslim neighbors that Jesus forbids what they are doing, or suggest that Christanity will make everyone either become a Christian, be a taxed inferior, or die with help.

    “By their fruits”, is still the best measuring device and it finds Islam, bitter and poisonous.

    • TL says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm

      Islam is the Christanity of Peace. It corrects the masochism and sentimentality of Trinitaranism in favor of sadism and the sword. Muhammad’s sect of Christianity also eliminates idolatrous worship of Jesus while preserving the hyperdulia for Mary which Protestants call Mariolatry.

      • Monty says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 4:53 pm

        You make no sense. The only peace that Islam knows is found in the cemetery. Jesus is King of kings and Lord of Lords. He will soon return and those who murder His followers will flee in terror. There is no place to hide. Repent and accept Christ as saviour and Lord before it is too late. Mary is not God or the mother of God and there is no reason to worship her. It is idolatry.

        • TL says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

          You remind me of my Irish Catholic relatives. Every one of them was ignorant, narrow minded, bigoted, and thin-skinned. All irony soared over their heads.

      • newUser says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm

        I wonder why Mr. Spencer has not banned you. You keep insulting Christians. He banned a friend who is Christian and that was evident from her posts. You should go spam elsewhere.

      • WPM says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 6:23 pm

        Islam does not believe Christ is the son of God that much is clear. Islam does not believe Christ raised from the dead, or that he was even put to dead by crucifixion. How could Islam be consider Christian? It would be like a Moslem believing that Mohammed did not hear the voice of God, it would destroy all that is written about Islam. With out Christ,s crucifixion or raising from the dead as a belief you have no Christian foundation. Even if you are not a Christian {or even believe in God} you can not say that Christ,s crucifixion and raising from the dead is not the foundation of all Christian faiths.

        • TL says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 3:42 pm

          You merely DEFINE Christian as involving belief that the Jewish messiah is son of God (in the sense of being a deity or having a devine nature) and that Jesus was crucified, died, and resurrected. The definition itself is open to dispute.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 9:45 pm

        Is anyone surprised that Fascist TL reveals himself as an admirer of Islam? I’m not.

        • TL says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 4:24 pm

          Am I surprised that you would accuse me of being a “Fascist”? Well, no. It’s fashionable to accuse people of being “Fascist” on the flimsiest of pretexts. In fact, when China and the USSR had a falling out, each promptly discovered that the other was Fascist. I suppose, however, that there was some merit to each side’s accusation in that case, for Fascism is a nationalistic communism and both China and the USSR had colorized their communism with nationalism, which is always just a subordinate characteristic of Fascism.

          Now, you are well known here for your hyperbolic denunciations against people who fail to conform to your simple minded hostility to Islam. So your cry “Fascist” has all of the force and substance of background noise. Also, it’s difficult to see how I could be “an admirer of Islam” when I KNOW that its doctrine of resurrection is foolish nonsense. The alleged resurrection is not even possibly true, not even in principle. No human body could travel among the stars as Islam insists, with Trinitarianism, Jesus’ body will do TWICE, once on the way to Heaven and again on the way back to Earth.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:21 pm

          It’s quite possible to admire Islam for its savagery without believing in any of its religious tenets. After all, that is what Hitler did.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:22 pm

          Also, notice that TL considers hostility to the utter horrors of Islam “simple minded”. Very telling.

    • maghan says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 1:16 pm

      The Old Testament was written long before Jesus’s appearance and the NEW Testament. Furthermore, the OT properly belongs to the context of “Ancient Jewish Folklore”.

      Authentic followers of Jesus would ideally live a life of peace, charity and self-abnegation.

      Authentic followers of Muhammad and Islam would ideally be like ISIS neo-Caliph, Abubkr Al-Bagdhadi.

      • TL says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm

        Judaism is a brutal, backwards theocracy, and the Jesus of the Trinitarian testament is almost entirely out of character as a leader for it. He isn’t like Moses or David, and he doesn’t have much Isaiah 66 in him, either. This contrast has made Trinitarianism schizophrenic since its earliest days. Sometimes it’s meek and masochistic; sometimes it’s angry and aggressive.

        Probably Trinitarianism came about from trying to force Jewish messiahism into a Roman straightjacket inspired by the later Capitoline triad of Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva. In Trinitarianism, God the Father replaces Jupiter; Jesus replaces Juno; and Minerva is shoved aside for the holy Spirit. The Christian triad is more masculine, in keeping with Jewish tradition, and Romans would have been familiar with this arrangement of turee gods. Further, the transformation is generally consistent with Christianity’s reputation for being a shape shifter.

        Notice now, if you will, how Minerva, whose attributes suggest the holy Spirit, came to be. In one version of myth, she sprang from Jupiter alone, much as the Orthodox Trinitarians insist that the holy Spirit is from the Father alone. Yet it’s been claimed that Minerva’s mother is Metis. It’s not clear how it could be both ways (save the story about Metis turning into a pregnant fly swallowed by Zeus), and the difference prefigures later disagreement about the filioque clause of the Nicene creed.

        At any rate, the western part of the Roman’s empire falls apart ca. 476, and with that failure the cultural and institutional reasons for having developed Trinitarianism are greatly weakened. About a century later along comes a new heresiarch, Mohammad, to purge Christianity of its Capitoline deviation AND to bring Jesus back into character as a true Israelite warrior who fights to convert the world as promised in Isaiah 66.

        So, for these and other reasons, Islam deserves to be counted as a sect of Christianity, and it’s plain for all to see that it has a stronger claim to being the correct Messiahism given that its character and personality are so much closer to Judaism, the religion ultimately responsible for spawning it.

        • Monty says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 4:45 pm

          I am a Christian. Islam and Christianity have zero in common. Mohamed and Christ are a universe apart. That is why Islam attempts to rid the world of Christians. Lord Jesus is the Prince of Peace, Mohamed a murdering butcher who raped, pillaged, lied and deceived his way to power and control. The good news is that Islam will be destroyed along with every other work of Satan.

        • newUser says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm

          I beg Mr. Spencer to ban you for insulting Christians as he bans Christians.

        • Historian says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 5:26 pm

          ” Islam deserves to be counted as a sect of Christianity, and it’s plain for all to see that it has a stronger claim to being the correct Messiahism given that its character and personality are so much closer to Judaism, the religion ultimately responsible for spawning it.”

          Nonsense. Muslims never put Jewish scripture into its canon, and, upon discovering the contradictions between the Bible and Quran, even promoted the falsehood that Jews and Christians deliberately falsified their scriptures so as to contradict the Quran. (It’s a ludicrous claim because there are OT manuscripts older than the Quran, and late antique and medieval Jews and Christians did not preserve or copy OT manuscripts in collaboration and yet their OT’s (in Hebrew, Greek, Syriac and Latin) agree WITH each other and AGAINST the Quran when the latter deviates–(for example in its claim that Noah’s wife was killed in the flood)). Christians did put the OT into their canon; Messianism without Jewish scripture makes no sense The fact that the earliest church leaders and most of their members were originally all Jewish and treated Jewish scrptures as authoritative disproves your simplistic claim that Islam is “closer to Judaism.”

          That Jesus’ ideals and behavior were so different from Isaiah 66, David and Moses is hardly surprising as these figure/OT texts are hundreds of years older than the NT. Judaism evolved with its surroundings.Just look at Jewish texts written closer to the time of Jesus: the ideas of Philo of Alexandria to take an example share certain ideas in common with Judaism in the time of the NT. And in any case, Judaism in the time of Jeseus was very diverse, hence disagreements among Pharisees, Saccucees, Essenes, Jeseus’ followeres, etc

          Trinitarian theology has NOTHING to do with Capitoline gods. Already in the NT Father Son and God’s spirit are linked (2 Cor 13:14) ; this proto-Trinitarian theolgy derives from both Jewish and Christian scriptural interpretation, for example Gen 1:1-3 (God, God’s spirit, God’s word together in the beginning).

          The formal Trinitarian theology of the 325-381 period drew on scripture, both Jewish and Christian, and also some established vocabulary of Greek philosophy (ousios and hypstaseis were established philosophical terms). This has nothing to do with “pagan gods” or polytheism as many Greek philosophers were not polytheists–or theists of any kind– and yet they used those terms). None of these developments in Trinitarian theology had ANYTHING to do with the political status of the Western empire. This formal theology was almost entirely formulated in the East by Hellenophone theologians (rather than in the Western empire), and the ecumenical councils that formalized and sanctioned the theology (in 325 but more crucially in 381) were held in the Eastern part of the Empire.

          You are woefully misinformed on these issues.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 9:50 pm

          TL likes to pretend that Jews are out slaughtering unbelievers as are Muslims, but this is of course utterly false.

          And like all Fascists–he has revealed his affinity for the Nazis many times before–he hates Christianity for its love and compassion.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 9:52 pm

          I’m not a Christian.

          I’m not offended by the insults, and believe that erroneous speech should either be countered by factual speech or just ignored.

          This David Wood video is VERY informative, vis-à-vis.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 9, 2017 at 10:10 pm

          Yes–David Wood’s stuff is excellent–and you do not have to be Christian to appreciate his fine work on Islam.

  9. Michelle N says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    This is why it’s important to personally research to know the truth behind issues such as Islam including it’s past and present because if apologist such as this is allowed to lead others into false knowledge, the sheep will follow straight to the slaughter .

  10. Guy Macher says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    Islam: the doctrine of Satan. I do so hope that does not offend anyone.

    • Timothy says

      Jul 11, 2017 at 12:46 am

      +1000

  11. Andy says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    We have to vote out ALL MENTALLY DISORDERED LEFTIST LIBERALS EVERYWHERE THAT ARE IN THE WORLD! THEY ARE DESTROYING WESTERN CIVILIZATION!

    GOD BLESS ARE PATRIOTS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD!

  12. Wellington says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Whether this doctor is sincere or lying, the effect is the same, i.e., yet another attempt at exculpating a religion which is also a totalitarian political ideology and a direct threat to freedom of speech, freedom of religion and equality under the law. Frankly, I prefer the Linda Sarsour type who just comes out and tells you what Islam is really all about, what it’s really up to, rather than some Muslim doctor in Minnesota who tries to put a happy face on the worst religion of all time.

    The good news here is that I believe more and more of the rank and file (this would exclude of course the editors and journalists at a rag like WaPo) here in America and the West in general are not buying the anodyne assessments about Islam anymore. Indeed, the fact that a story like this one has to run in a major American newspaper is itself dispositive of what is really going on, that being that people are sick of Islam and sick of the excuse making for Islam. So, methinks WaPo doth protest too much.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      Of course, Wellington, Linda Sarsour lies as well, telling us that Islam is “feminist”.

      • PRCS says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 am

        IMO, the biggest problem with Sarsour is the failure–or refusal–of the so-called journalists and our elected representatives to challenge her with facts; either because they don’t know a damned thing about Islam and are thus unable to–or they do and don’t.

        That our president and so many on his staff parrot the same “perversion of Islam” nonsense is but one of many examples.

        I’d ask how many times in one 24 hour day can Fox News “personalities” mindlessly regurgitate phrases like “radical Islamic terrorists”—but…..

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 8:25 pm

          Yes–many journalists are either politically correct or woefully ignorant about Islam or both.

  13. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    “if you remove two outlier events—the September 11th [2001] terrorist attacks and the Oklahoma City Bombing—far-right extremists have killed more than twice as many people (272) as Islamist extremists (130)”

    Fake news begets fake history. It’s nearly universally accepted that the OKC mass murder was done by far right extremists, a cursory look at the undisputed facts shows that the rightists, who were indeed that, were cutaways in an operation funded by Iraq and supervised by a local Moslem community college professor.

    Hogwash. Bah. Look up Jayne Alexander to learn more on this.

    • WPM says

      Jul 9, 2017 at 3:02 pm

      Yes like the old saying if my Aunt had balls she would be my Uncle. MSM lets leave out the largest Terrorist act committed on USA soil of all time. Like the report increase in anti-Semitic crimes in America after Trump got elected leave out that most are committed by Moslems in the United States.

      • WPM says

        Jul 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm

        More Americans die at WTC on 9/11/01 then died at Peal Harbor on 12/7/41 and most of the people who died on 9/11 were not soldiers they where people working and living a peaceful life in an American city.

  14. Islamic Mirror says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    Islam is the *only* religion that has a chapter in its “holy book” titled “Booty”–Al-Anfal–that is dedicated to robbing and pirating unbelievers and divvying up the ill-gotten gains
    MOST DAMNING VIDEO EVER!.MUST SHARE NOW.! Usama Dakdok
    INSTITUTIONALISED ISLAMIC PERSECUTION, OPEN HATRED & KILLINGS OF INFIDLES
    Islam: • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.

    • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
    
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
    in Muslim countries, promoting genocide is OK if MUSLIMS DO IT. MULLAHS OPENLY and PUBLICLY CALL FOR GENOCIDE
    a lot of love in Christianity, a lot of anger and hate in Islam. Christian pray for others, muslims pray for themselves. “religion of war” full of “venomous misogyny
    • Coran has 114 chapters 6666 word. Jesus mentioned 25 times and mohammed 4 times
    • Hate appears towards unbeliever 296 times, (kill unbeliever 180 times, muslims are the best people. 51% (548,190 words) of the Trilogy text, most of it slanders against non-Muslims
    • 154 – 164 verses of curses , jihad and war and killings -31% of the Islamic Trilogy (327,547 words) concerned with jihad-warfare
    that’s 80% plus of that obnoxious rag being useless
    the Hadith Book 12 has 1700 verses about Jihad alone.
    ‘STAGED’ Islamic terror in the last 30 days: (In May/June 2017)
    -198 Islamic attacks in 30 countries
    -1777 people were killed
    -1863 wounded
    ‘STAGED’ SINCE 9/11
    -30,973 DEADLY ‘STAGED’ JIHAD ATTACKS

    1. The Quran contains many verses .Several command Muslims to strike fear into the hearts of the unbelievers and to kill the apostates.
    And call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
    Moslems were NEVER told to love Jews or Christians but rather to murder and kill them all for Allah. – no, not even one verse from the Quran to show or proof that Mohamed told Moslems to love Christians and Jews… but here we have Mohamed telling Moslems how to treat Christians and Jews…
    2. HANDY GUIDE TO INTERPRETATION
    “Kill” means kill.
    “Stone” means stone.
    “Cut off” means cut off.
    “What your right hands possess” means slaves.

    How come “allah” is so anti-Semitic and anti-Christian given that all
    of God’s prophets (in the Bible)-Moses,Elijah,Jesus…..are JEWISH?How nuts is “allah”?
    The hatred of Jews (and Christians).
    “The angel gabriel is the enemy of the Jews” sahih al bukhari vol4 bk 60 no 3329 .allah curses the Jews(and the Christians)in k9:30 and k3:56.
    His “prophet” mahomed murdered them and the angel gabriel(-the luciferian counterfeit most certainly-)is the “enemy of the Jews”.
    “When the last moment of allah’s apostle came he started putting the khamisa on his face and said “may allah curse the Jews and the Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets”.
    Bukhari 1:8:427
    So just because Christians and Jews liked to build places of worship to God in their own way,the Christ-rejecting,commandment-violating,anti-semitic “prophet” of islam curses them.
    Such a warped teaching from the most perfect man that ever lived (al-Insan al-Kamil).
    Didn’t he know that someday he would be judged by a Jew…Jesus Christ??
    Koran 40:35 “They who dispute the signs (verses) of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers.” (Note: not just “hated”, but “greatly hated”.)
    Koran 4: 101 “The kuffar are for you a clear enemy.”

    The Quran dehumanizes/animalize non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:
    Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)
    Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to “panting dogs” with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness.
    Verse 7:179 says they are like “cattle” only worse.
    Verse 5:60 says the unbelievers are unclean. Verse 6:111 says they are ignorant. Verse 23:55 says they are helpers of the devil.
    Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.
    Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing
    hell. – 33:60
    Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. – 41:14
    (‘allah’ is obsessed with hell and knows so much about it.
    That’s because he’s the devil. muslims follow the devil and want to
    deceive others about the true nature of islam. muslim are deceived
    and muslims aim to deceive.)
    ________________________________________
    A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be “mutated Jews” (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).
    Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.
    Koran Single out Jews
    Well over 100 ANTI-SEMITIC VERSES in the Koran and a few hundred anti-Semitic lines in the hadiths prove that Islam is systemically ANTI-SEMITIC.
    the Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims.
    They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82);
    as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181);
    claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64);
    loving to listen to lies (5:41);
    disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13);
    disputing and quarreling (2:247);
    hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78);
    staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55);
    being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44);
    giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87);
    wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109);
    feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120);
    being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18);
    devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161);
    slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46);
    killing the prophets (2:61);
    From the Quran, Surah 2:65, 7:116 O Muslims, Jews are a treacherous and deceitful people over whom lies the curse and anger of Allah. They permitted what Allah forbade, with lame excuses; therefore, He cursed and turned them into apes and pigs
    being merciless and heartless (2:74);
    never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100);
    being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79);
    being cowardly (59:13-14);
    being miserly (4:53);
    being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.
    “
    The classic Qur’anic commentators do not mitigate the Qur’an’s words against Jews, but only add fuel to the fire. Ibn Kathir explained Qur’an 2:61 (“They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah”) this way: “This Ayah [verse] indicates that the Children of Israel were plagued with humiliation, and that this will continue, meaning that it will never cease. They will continue to suffer humiliation at the hands of all who interact with them, along with the disgrace that they feel inwardly.” Another Middle Ages commentator of lingering influence, Abdallah ibn Umar al-Baidawi, explains the same verse this way: “The Jews are mostly humiliated and wretched either of their own accord, or out of coercion of the fear of having their jizya [punitive tax] doubled.”
    Ibn Kathir notes Islamic traditions that predict that at the end of the world, “the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah), and the Muslims, along with ‘Isa [Jesus], son of Mary, will kill the Jews.”
    Muhammad prophecy that Muslims will commit genocide of Jews
    (Here is the fullest version of the hadith, which appears many times in shorter forms in the two hadith collections that Muslims consider most reliable, Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim: The thrust of the argument below is that the text refers only to the unrighteous Jews, not the righteous ones
    “Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad ((Boxthorn tree) would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim Book 041, Hadith Number 6981-6985)
    The Jews are currently planting lots of Gharqad trees in Israel to protect them…

    It is WRITTEN in the Koran that the ‘Children of Israel’ should ‘dwell in the Land’. This means the Land of Israel.
    Qur’an 17:104 : And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter (wa3’dul akhirati) cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations

  15. Islamic Mirror says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    where does in the quran Allah orders muslims to kill non-muslims

    where does in the quran Allah orders muslims to kill non-muslims

    • Devout Muslims recite the Fatiha 17 times a day, rejecting of Christians and Jews; The Fatiha (sura 1 of the Qur’an) states:
    “Guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

    The influential Sunni scholar Ibn Kathir explained this passage in this way:“
    The two paths He described here are both misguided…the two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why ‘anger’ descended upon the Jews, while being described as ‘led astray’ is more appropriate of the Christians
    • Quran 2:191 -“And slay them wherever ye catch them.” Qur’an 2:191..
    btw ur verse is here Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing..

    (And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers. (Quran 2:191-193)

    Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
    On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161
    Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216
    (QS 2:216) Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
    “We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)

    Quran 3:85 “Any religion other than islam is not acceptable.”
    Quran: 003:085
    He that chooses a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will surely be among the losers.
    • Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}

    • Surah 4:160 For wicked Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom
    • (Quran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize islam” This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement. (Quran 5:33)
    Koran 5:33: “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.”
    • and another one Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining

    • Quran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.”)
    When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ˜I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them! (Quran 8:12)
    when the Quran says “…. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.” 8:12
    -“I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” Qur’an 8:12.

    (The Shafi’i Sharia manual ‘Umdat al-Salik says that “an expiation is due to Allah Most High from anyone who kills someone unlawful to kill…” (o5.1). However, “there is no expiation for killing someone who has left Islam” (o5.4). In other words, someone who kills is liable to punishment, but he isn’t liable to punishment if he kills an apostate.)

    Surah 8:17 Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. (Moslems believe all that Hateful shit? shame on you followers of Satan).
    • Quran: 008:059
    Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them who are unknown to you but known to God. All that you give for the cause of Allah shall be repaid you. You shall not be wronged.
    Terrorism can not be separated from islam
    Terrorism
    “We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)

    When your Lord inspired to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.’” (Qur’an 8:12)

    • Quran 8:60 “muslims must muster all weapons to Turhibunna’(terrorize) the infidels.”
    • Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror in the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged. (Quran 8:60)
    • “And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may strike terror in the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know, whom Allah knows…” (Qur’an
    8:60)
    • the Qur’an promises that Allah will “soothe the breasts” of believers who fight against and humiliate non-believers (9:14-15).
    (Islam inculcates HATRED, SPITE, REVENGE, HARD-HEARTEDNESS, INSENSITIVITY and MORONIC ANTI-INTELLECTUAL STUPIDITY.
    Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are devout Muslims)
    • Hadith: Sahih Muslim 4294:
    “When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to 3 courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also except it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya (the Islamic tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” – Muhammad
    quoting Muhammad ibn al-Hasan in his “The Explanation of the Major Hadith” #4111/1:
He said: “There is nothing wrong for Muslims to burn the infidels fortresses with fire, or to drown them with water and poison them and cut off their water, and to make their water bitter by pouring blood and menstrual blood and poison until they spoil it for them because we were ordered to belittle them and to break their unity”

    • Mohammed said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against all people until they testify there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their blood and possessions from me.” (Sahih Muslim 1:33)

    • -Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Abi Aufa: Allah’s Apostle said, “Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords.” Bukhari Vol. 4, Book 52, Num. 73.

    – “The Prophet said, ‘I have been awarded victory by terror so the treasures of the earth are mine.’” Bukhari: V9B87N127

    • -I heard the Prophet saying, “In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection.” Sahih Bukhari Vol.6, Book 61, Num. 577.
    • reading the opinion surveys of Muslims assembled by PEW RESEARCH. They are very revealing.
    15% of Muslims (one in six +-) believe in TERRORISM…though few of them are doing it. However, 65% of Muslims want a caliphate and strict Sharia…that’s what ISIS is doing.
    Muslims are inconsistent. They want PURE ISLAM, but few are ready to go to war for and lose everything they own and their lives in a war. Most Muslims are ‘hypocrites’ according to Mohammed.

  16. Tom says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    If the good doctor attends a mosque that has radical Imam’s preaching then you better believe that he should be considered a risk and the mosque monitored.

    This BS about getting put on a registry of muslims is just that, BS, and he knows it.

    If he was so happy living in Dawson, Minnesota then it means he was treated with respect by his fellow citizens and he only lost that happiness due to Trump being victorious in that state. Perhaps he thinks the good folks in Dawson are just like his fellow muslims, and were practicing Takiyya prior to voting in Trump.

    Yet another twisted report from a left wing media outlet.

    • PRCS says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 12:02 am

      Sure you mean well, but please explain how a “radical Imam” differs from a regular Imam.

      • Tom says

        Jul 10, 2017 at 10:40 am

        Really !!!
        A radical imam is one who openly preaches the death of non believers.

        Please don’t think I am so naive as to believe that the Koran isn’t fundamentally radical, but some imam’s are more radical in their preaching than others.

        If you have read any of my posts you will know that I am one who is careful about gathering information first before posting because knowing that Islam is fundamentally flawed and dangerous and tarring all with the same brush isn’t helpful in getting those right of centre liberals onside and only makes us all look like uncontrolled yahoos, which is the image that the left wants to portray about us.

        We who oppose Islam and its teachings are, for the most part, very reasonable people who oppose it because we are educated and aware of the danger. If we are to succeed in beating this radical ideology we have to bring others onside. We can only do that by not falling into the left’s trap.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 10, 2017 at 11:27 am

          Islam is not a “radical” ideology. It’s an ideology. Offering non Muslims reversion, dhimmitude, or warfare is Orthodox Islam.

          Muslims who preach Islam’s texts (and those who attempt to follow them) to the letter–are not radicals. They’re the best Muslims. Allah’s slaves. They’ve submitted. Unlike their “moderate” coreligionists, they’re not cherry picking. They’re not engaged in selective compliance. Abu bakr al baghdadi and Yusef al Qaradawi are not a “radical” Muslim clerics.

          There’s no “radical” Islam. No “moderate” Islam. There is Islam–amputations and all. There are “moderate” Muslims, but there is no Qur’an “lite” just for them.

          What we who oppose Islam’s teachings need to do–in order to educate our fellow “unbelievers” and to refute the left’s whitewash of Islam’s teachings and its ultimate goal of world domination–is to make those facts clear to them.

          If one must reference the word “radical” in discussing Islam, note this definition:

          root, core, radix

  17. Islamic Mirror says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the Europe explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:
    “One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives
    • (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them
    when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…
    The statement continues,
    Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

    The Koran openly calls for terrorism: The divine command to terrorize is eternal, rather than contextual.
    Whenever mullahs say a jihadist is not following Islam, they may mean that the mullah did not personally send or authorize the jihadist. That is the role of the ‘IMAM’ (meaning the ‘CALIPH’
    • Quran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the muslims to fight them.”
    Allah Stupidity Quran 8 aya 65

    • Fight against them so that Allah will punish them BY YOUR HANDS and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people,
    • (Quran 9:14) Fight against them so that Allah will punish them BY YOUR HANDS and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people, (Quran 9:14)
    • -“Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame….” Qur’an 9:14.
    • the Qur’an promises that Allah will “soothe the breasts” of believers who fight against and humiliate non-believers (9:14-15).
    And for Moslems who still hesitate to go to war:
    (QS 9:38) Believers! What is amiss with you that when it is said to you: “March forth in the cause of Allah,” you cling heavily to the earth? Do you prefer the worldly life to the Hereafter? Know well that all the enjoyment of this world, in comparison with the Hereafter, is trivial.
    • Fight and slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Seize them, confine them, lie in wait for them in every place of ambush. (Sura—verse—9:5)
    • Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. (Quran 9:5)
    the Verse of the Sword “Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters (mushrikun) wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5) The actual four “sacred months” — the first ( Qa`dah) , 7th(Dhul-Hijjah), 11th(Muharram), and 12th(Rajab) months in the Islamic (lunar) calendar
    Surat At-Tawbah (The Repentance) – سورة التوبة

    Sahih International
    And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
    ________________________________________
    • Believers! Do not befriend your fathers or your brothers or your sons if they choose unbelief in preference to belief in Allah. (Sura 9:22)
    •
    The Religion of Peace website goes on to note that: “According to Islamic law, non-Muslims may be owned as property by Muslims…”
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran-hate.htm

    QS 9:29) Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
    -“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Qur’an 9:29
    • Surah 9:29 Fight those people of the Book (Jews and Christians) who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which Allah and His Rasool (Mohamed) have forbidden, and do not embrace the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay the tribute (Jizya) readily, being humiliated. [Notice that this verse doesn’t order Muslims to fight oppressors, but to fight all those who don’t believe in Islam and humiliate them]

    • Quran 9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

    Unfortunately for the apologist Muslim Allah gives the reason for fighting in the very next verse
    Stop lying – Your Quran and Hadiths clearly say that killing Moslems is Unlawful but not non-Moslems so shove your lies up your ass.
    • who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book — until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled. (Quran 9:29)

    • Fight those who do not believe in Allah, those who do not forbid what Allah and his apostle have forbidden, fight them until they pay tribute to the believers and are utterly subdued. (Sura 9:29)

    • And know that anything you obtain of war booty – then indeed, for Allah is one fifth of it and for the Messenger and for near relatives and the orphans, the needy, and the traveler, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our Servant on the day of criterion – the day when the two armies met. And Allah, over all things, is competent.” (Qur’an 8:41)

    • Sura4 V 95

    •

     .

  18. Tangata says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    Sad thing is that the 70% of Western Muslims who Cultural Muslims as the good doctor, doesn’t even know what Islam is all about… And being immersed in a JudeoChristian society and culture, they are more Christian than they are Muslim in terms of values and beliefs.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      Tangata, this Muslim is not ignorant of Islam–he is lying about it.

  19. Islamic Mirror says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    • WARNING! FOR ADULTS ONLY! THIS COMMENT CONTAINS UPSETTING AND SHAMEFUL FACTS ABOUT MOHAMMED’S BIZARRE SEXUAL BEHAVIOR. VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED! VIEWER IS REQUESTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT NONE OF THESE DEPRAVED AND CRIMINAL ACTS ARE SEEN AS CRIMES TO MUSLIMS, EXCEPT IF THEY ARE COMMITTED BY SOMEONE ELSE. ———————————————————————————————————————- The truth about Mohammed’s bizarre sex life is plain to see and easily found on the pages of Islam’s own recognized authorities. The best estimate based only on Islam’s own sources has Mohammed engaging in sexual relations with at least 66 women. He had 11 wives at one time and sexually exploited slaves, concubines and children. Civilized people consider that to be the behavior of a criminal. Today he would be arrested, convicted, imprisoned and possibly executed. He would definitely be registered as a sex offender.Yet, muslims continue to regard Mohammad with great respect as their prophet.
    • Here’s just a few examples from Islam’s own sacred authorities which the cowardly media and politically correct public schools and churches refuse to tell us about of the perverse sexual activity of “Islam’s perfect man.
    • ” The Muslim legal text, al-Sharwani’s Hawashi, confirms that sex with a dead woman is not sinful or wrong according to Islamic law. This law is based on the example set by Muhammad. According to the hadith, Muhammad had sex with a dead woman before she was put in the grave.
    • The gravediggers were so embarrassed that they proceeded to bury the woman’s corpse and the prophet with dirt, exclaiming, “O Prophet, we see you do a thing you never did with anyone else.” Muhammad answered: “I have dressed her in my shirt so that she may be dressed in heavenly robes, and I have farewell intercourse with her in her grave so that the torments of the grave may be alleviated from her.” Recently a new law was proposed in the Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egyptian parliament. It would allow for “farewell intercourse” with a wife’s dead body. Obviously Muslims know very well about this demented practice by Mohammed. Postmortem sex is apparently a traditional value within Islam. Civilized people call it necrophilia and it’s a criminal act.
    • Aisha is the child bride of Mohammed. He married her when she was only six and immediately began the practice of pleasuring himself between her thighs.
    • No less than 20 Islamic sources-such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal-relay that Mohammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls, and even his own daughter. Along with sucking her tongue, Mohammad would also nuzzle his face in his own daughter’s bosom every night before going to sleep.
    • Mohammad even proclaimed his affections and intentions of marriage towards little girls, often as young as 2-3 years old. Civilized people call this pedophilia- a wicked, criminal act.
    • Mohammed’s sexual behavior also demonstrated homosexual and transvestite tendencies. There are 32 different references of Mohammad lying in bed dressed in women’s clothing. In a hadith from Sahih Bukhari (2/911), Mohammad is recorded saying, “Revelations never come to me when I’m dressed in women’s clothing-except when I’m dressed in Aisha’s,” implying that it was something of a habit for the prophet to dress in female clothing.
    • Civilized people censor homosexuality and transvestism as abnormal sins against the laws of nature and nature’s God. Mohammad is on record in Faid al-Qabit (3/371) saying “My greatest loves are women and perfume: the hungry is satisfied after eating, but I never have enough of women.” Another hadith: “I can hold back from food and drink-but not from women.” Finally, a hadith in al-Siyuti (6/395) quotes Mohammad as saying “In heaven, Mary mother of Jesus, will be one of my wives.” Civilized people call this insatiable lust sexual addiction. Mohammed is a whoremonger, who tried to turn even heaven into a brothel. Shame on Muslims & the media for condoning the actions of a man who has brought more misery to mankind, and especially women, than any other man since Adam. ——————————————————————————— REFERENCES TO PROPHET MOHAMMED’S CRIMES. ——————————————————————————— Muhammad’s marriage to 6 year old Aisha. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).
    • Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),
    • Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300), (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)
    • Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating. (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579)
    • Muhammad loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs! (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)
    • Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam. (Surah 33:37, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)
    • Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave. [“Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.) “‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”
    • Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls. (Surah 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50),
    • Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls. (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371) ”
    • Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls – he supported RAPE!.”
    • Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367). “Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.”
    • The evil self-proclaimed prophet, Muhammad, LIVED and DIED with the medical condition known today as PRIAPISM.
    • Simply put, because his penis was erect all the time, it caused him pain, and in order to remove the pain, he had to copulate, and copulate he did, with anyone and with anything, mostly animals.
    • Proof of his priapism is the scene on his death bed. “Muhammad’s Death Erection Abu al-Fida (1273 – 1331 AD) was a Muslim geographer and historian. He relates that Prophet Muhammad suffered from a death erection.
    • Ali ibn Abi Ṭalib, the fourth Rightly-guided Caliph of Islam (and also Muhammad’s son-in-law and cousin) washed his body after his death, and had exclaimed, “O prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!” Do we know of any other prophet or important man, who started a following, who penis was still living when the rest of him died? He was a sexual pervert with a voracious sexual appetite! Muhammad was unique, because his Allah, the same Allah in the Koran, was his nothing more than his own Penis.

  20. Steve Daly says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    “Virji has embraced the ecumenical conclusion that ‘all religions are trying to come to Him [God] from different angles.’” Interesting that ecumenicals have embraced the concept that Judeo/Christians and Muslims pray to the same God, whereas Virji doesn’t say that Muslims also believe all are praying to the same God. In fact it would be ridiculous to claim Muslims and Christians pray to the same God when ISIS is drowning Christians in cages and beheading them just for their faith in the same God.

  21. Greyhound Fancier says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    This is from the Oxford Research Encyclopaedia:

    “Just as the conflict between Martin Luther and the papacy was beginning, the issue of how Europe should respond to the military campaigns of the Turks in Hungary became increasingly paramount. Luther was initially aloof to the matter. But the farther the Turks moved up the Danube River basin toward Vienna, and the more he heard about the pope clamoring for a crusade and German preachers expressing ambivalence toward and sometimes preference for the Turk, the more he was pressed to address the issue of war with the Ottomans. Unsurprisingly, given his view of the secular realm, he came out strongly in favor of war, for in his mind it was just. He continued to support every preparation for it so long as it was not construed as a crusade. He also believed that physical warfare was not enough. It had to be accompanied by the spiritual disciplines of prayer and repentance. About the time of the siege of Vienna, Luther also began to view the Turkish threat as an apocalyptic threat. He was convinced that the rise of the Turks was foretold in the eschatological prophecies in scripture, especially Daniel 7. He also believed that, while the Turks would be successful for a time, their days were numbered as the last days were soon approaching. Until then, Christians needed to be warned about the dangers of Islam. He had heard and read that many Christians who ended up in the Ottoman Empire eventually became Muslims. So he spent most of his energy in writing about and inquiring into the theology and culture of the Turks for the purpose of encouraging and equipping Christians to resist it. Some of his work was practical and pastoral. His later work was polemical and apologetical. Throughout it all, he remained committed to making as much information on Islam available as possible. This culminated in his involvement in the publication of a Latin translation of the Qur’ān in 1543, a work that was included in the first collection of texts relating to Islam to ever be printed.”

    The young doctor should be made aware of Luther’s ideas on Islam.

  22. gravenimage says

    Jul 9, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    Washington Post Spreads More Comforting Falsehoods about Islam
    …………………….

    Giving space to Taqiyya artists–and putting us all deeper in danger.

    Ayaz Virji regularly whines about the supposed “plight” of Muslims under Donald Trump–no mention of the mushrooming Jihad against us, of course.

    Here’s more bullsh*t from him:

    “Muslim Family, Pastor Come Together To Educate Town On Islam”

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/03/09/dawson-community-meeting-islam/

    Note his sneering at the idea that Islam teaches cutting off Infidel’s heads.

    The Christian pastor is a dhimmi fool, as well.

  23. Smack Daddy says

    Jul 10, 2017 at 9:01 am

    I live in MN and this WAPO article appeared in both Mpls StarTribune and St Paul Pioneer Press. The comments had lots of feel good posts which show how naive many of us still are. However, there were many comments cluing people into this propaganda. My comment to ask the good doctor what he thinks of the jews was censored. The liberal media is absolutely clueless or complicit in supporting Islamists.

    • PRCS says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 11:31 am

      And that IS a problem.

  24. HugoHackenbush says

    Jul 10, 2017 at 9:43 am

    I have gotten to the point where I simply, with a knowing tone in my voice, advise people to read the source materials for themselves. If they ask a reasonable question then I will quote evidence but getting into frenzy of point-counterpoint of Islamic quotes with someone is usually of no use. It also helps to frame certain questions for them to ask of an Islamic apologist:
    1. Are there both peaceful and violent passages in the Koran (yes or no)
    2. Were the violent passages revealed after the peaceful passages (yes or no)
    3. Is there a principle in Islam of “abrogation” by which later revelations have authority and precedence over the earlier passages (yes or no).
    4. Given that in Islam all will be judged by Allah on the last day by weighing one’s good versus bad deeds, what is the one and only guaranteed way to reach paradise (particularly if you have been a “bad boy” by drinking alcohol, engaging in “illegal sexual intercourse”, having a pet dog, having or even worse creating pictures or drawings in your house and having infidels as actual friends)?

    • PRCS says

      Jul 10, 2017 at 11:45 am

      Good points.

      Using Islam’s actual texts to put Muslims “on the spot” is important as both a tactic and a strategy.

      Another example question for “our” Muslims:

      *In Qur’an 5:33, Allah authorizes the amputation of a human being’s hand and foot on opposite sides as a worldly punishment. Where on earth is that morally acceptable to you?

      If the answer is “In Islamic countries”, well….

      If the answer is “Nowhere”, the logical follow on question should be, “Is Allah wrong, then?”

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