“It’s a very sad day for Australia if an established community, which needs a house of worship, is refused permission to build it because of fear that others may pose a threat. This simply shows how we’re all losing our freedoms. Those who want us to be afraid are winning, and this ill-conceived judgment represents a dangerous precedent.”
Yes. It also shows Muslims that all they have to do in order to block anything they don’t like is issue jihad terror threats, and the project will be scrapped. The jihad terrorists are in charge now.
Meanwhile, if you want to block construction of a mosque because it could be a jihad terror incubator, you’re a racist, bigoted “Islamophobe.”
“Bondi synagogue ban over terrorism risk leaves Jewish community shocked and furious,” News.com.au, August 3, 2017 (thanks to Michael):
A LOCAL council has banned the construction of a synagogue in Bondi because it could be a terrorist target, in a shock move that religious leaders say has caved in to Islamic extremism and created a dangerous precedent.
The decision, which has rocked the longstanding Jewish community in the iconic suburb, was upheld in court this week as the nation reeled from the alleged airline terror threat and debate raged over increased security measures at airports and other public places.
The Land and Environment Court backed the decision by Waverley Council to prohibit the construction of the synagogue in Wellington St, Bondi — just a few hundred metres from Australia’s most famous beach — because it was too much of a security risk for users and local residents.
Jewish leaders are shocked the decision appears to suggest they cannot freely practice their religion because they are the target of hate by Islamist extremists — and that the council has used their own risk assessment of the threat posed by IS against it.
The head of the local Jewish community said the council and the court had effectively stifled freedom of religion and rewarded terrorism.
“The decision is unprecedented,” Rabbi Yehoram Ulman told news.com.au.
“Its implications are enormous. It basically implies that no Jewish organisation should be allowed to exist in residential areas. It stands to stifle Jewish existence and activity in Sydney and indeed, by creating a precedent, the whole of Australia, and by extension rewarding terrorism.”
NSW Jewish Board of Deputies chief executive Vic Alhadeff told news.com.au he had never heard of any other religious group being denied a place of worship just because they were targeted by outside extremists and that the move was a dangerous precedent.
“It’s a very sad day for Australia if an established community, which needs a house of worship, is refused permission to build it because of fear that others may pose a threat,” he said.
“This simply shows how we’re all losing our freedoms. Those who want us to be afraid are winning, and this ill-conceived judgment represents a dangerous precedent.”…
miriamrove says
So let’s not build anything that is a security risk because of muslim savages. Who are the cowards here? In this case certainly not muslims. m
balam says
Cowards die many times before their death. Australians are nothing but COWARDS!!!!
Frank Anderson says
Balam, I ask you to consider limiting your well-deserved contempt to those who made this absurd and cowardly decision and those who support it. Australia more or less as long as it has existed has been a genuinely close and reliable ally of the United States. There are many in Australia who are just as betrayed, disgusted and concerned with the developing Islamic conquest of their country as many in other countries who watch the collaborators nibble and chew away at our society.
Louis Schwartz says
Frank Anderson; i Love Australia. God Bless the people of Australia.
Frank Anderson says
Louis, subscribing to an idea that all good deeds are at least 3 in 1, (for the person who receives it, for the person who does it, and for the Glory of God who makes ALL things possible) I try to be as broad and expansive in my prayers for blessings of good and worthy (not perfect) people as possible. All of God’s Children, all who seek the love and guidance of a Living God, who has spoken to us in many different ways for 3700 years or so, who strive to live good lives and bring others to understanding that life is a gift in trust need God’s blessing. Where in the world can I find any person striving against murder, tyranny and slavery who does not need God’s Blessing? Australia is but one example of the horror that is building every day.
Jacqueleen says
ISOLATION OF THE MUSLIMS IS KEY……GOD USES ISOLATION AS PUNISHMENT, for instance, Purgatory and Hell….even humans use ISOLATION for protection of society, it is called JAIL. Now, all civilized nations should evict all Muslims and send them to the Middle East to live in tents and caves where the uncivilized belong. Then they must be banned from entry or re-entry into a civilized nation. That is the only way to deal with Islam since the Muslims refuse to admit that theirs in not a religion but rather a demonic cult and their Allah is Satan. That makes them Satan followers….ISOLATION IS THE ANSWER not battles or bloodshed….Then the USA should drill for oil and tell the Saudi’s to take a hike for financing terrorism!…..Israel should do the same…Evict he Palestinians back to Jordan where they originated…..and ban them from entry into Israel. Sounds harsh but ISOLATION IS THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH ALL MUSLIMS WHO ARE ALL ON A MISSION EITHER OPENLY (RADICALS) OR SILENTLY (THE MODERATES PRACTICING DAWA)…MULTIPLYING AND INFILTRATING THE COUNTRY THEY OCCUPY UNTIL IN THE MAJORITY…THEN BAM!!!!!!!
James Davis says
NO! Australian’s are NOT coward’s; I Visited Australia for R&R, during my service in The Vietnam War( where very brave, & very tough, Australian Soldier’s also served, with distinction). I was treated FAR BETTER, by the “Aussies”, than by my own Countrymen, & Women, when I returned to America. It’s Not The People, It’s their LEFTIST,
Moronic,”Politically Correct”, “Diversity is “Strength”, & Gov.’t Sponsered, “Inclusiveness”Mantra”. Liberal “Newspeak”, for being Cosmopolitan, & “Fashionable”!!! Sound’s like the same, old, phony,”BS”, that is “plaque-ing”, Great Britain, Europe, & The United States!!! IF you Dare Oppose these “Scatter-Brained”, Egalitarian, IDIOT’S, you’re automatically accused, of being a Heretic, a Racist, or a NAZIS!!! Sooner or later, These Perverted, Pretender, & Lunatic, Government’s are going to FALL, & It ain’t going to be PRETTY!!!
Georg says
As outrageous as all jihad is, this story really stands out. So much of what is wrong with Islam and the West’s response is embodied here. Truly shameful.
Bloggerd says
As a result people can’t get work building the synagogue, hardware stores will loose out. But Muslims can build their mosque. Thanks to the religion of peace.
Mike says
Let’s not build prisons, because we might fill them with terrorists!
somehistory says
Since they are not building this synagogue, next will be not building theaters, hospitals, restaurants, grocery stores, churches…anything that has been targeted before by moslum terrorists.
gravenimage says
Spot on…
somehistory says
This is what would happen in Israel if those who decided on where and when to build were cut from the same cloth. No synagogues, no apartments, nothing for Jews or Christians.
In an email from Steven Emerson, re: the bomb/gassing plot, it was stated that Australia is 3rd in line for the nations that have a “significant security threat” from “radical* islum.
Giving in only increases the determination of moslums to take over.
Johan Elzinga says
In principle I do not believe that not having a place of worship is a bad thing. You can worship all you want at home. But having to be fearful of others when doing the worship – as long as this worshipping is not harmful to others – is certainly a very bad thing. It seems the problem solves itself when criminals would be killing other criminals. However, not everyone visiting a Mosque can be considered a criminal.
gravenimage says
*Really*, Johan? You think that Muslims forcing Infidels to adhere to Shari’ah law barring non-Muslims from building places of worship *is OK*?
lucretia says
What is this wishy-washy babble?
Frank Anderson says
Johan, There is a writing that I cannot cite at the moment discussing why it helps for worship in a congregational community. The theory, again as I recall and subject to correction, is that each person brings his problems, solutions and experience to share with others, thereby helping them deal with theirs. No matter how Jews have been murdered, scattered, tortured, enslaved and abused they are still a community. The irony is that they are a community of widely diverse ideas and substantial disagreements. “Get 3 Jews together and have at least 6 opinions.” “Israel is the only country in the world with 6,000,000 Prime Ministers, only 1 of whom is in the office at this moment.”
A rational observation of congregational religious practice, to me, connects with ideas of mass-production mental health. One particular television preacher is to me an outstanding example of a source of wisdom and comfort. Many others are obviously in it for the power and money.
I heard for the first time 3 statements that inspire me to this day, about 25 years ago. 1) Wisdom is its own authority. Wisdom does not depend on speaker or location: Wisdom stands by itself. 2) Wisdom is all around us, in the Bible and many other places. Wherever Wisdom is in the hands of people it is subject to error and deception. The challenge is always to distinguish Wisdom and put it to work in our lives. 3) ASK EVERY QUESTION repeatedly. Wisdom/Truth can stand every challenge, each time coming away clearer, cleaner and brighter. As long as we are bound by our minds and bodies, we will never know the whole truth. Only when we face God will we be able to see it all.
I asked your same questions with great brutality from age 15 to 22. My whole family went ballistic, except for my Uncle, who said, “Frank, you are asking the right questions and seeking the most important answers you will need for the rest of your life. When you find your answer it will be the right one for you.” Something happened after 7 years to inspire me and continue my search through a lot of difficulty. I hope you will continue asking your questions and finding your answers. No matter what you say or think today, I believe I can claim to witness that God exists, loves you and walks with you even when you try to walk away. Peace, in the most complete and expansive form imaginable be with you always.
Pong says
Some of the Jewish prayers cannot be carried out without 10 male adults to be present. It called a “minion”.
If you think that not every moslem is a criminal, please, supply the criterias by which we can separate them.
David Barrett says
May I suggest you should think about coming to Israel where we have more than a few synagogues?
gravenimage says
The invitation is nice–but Jews should not fear living in what is–or used to be–the free West.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Two proposed solutions:
1. Charge Muslims a head tax to pay for the security of the synagogue. If, in spite of the security, the mosque is successfully targeted by Islamic terrorists, increase the head tax and use the proceeds to increase security. Repeat until the terrorist attacks stop. The Muslims should appreciate this approach, since it borrows from their own doctrine.
2. I was going to suggest a scenario in which the local Muslims would be made to provide security for the synagogue, and the local Jews would violently riot at the slightest inconvenience or impediment to their access to the synagogue, but I’m against violence (except in *legitimate* self-defense), and will not advocate it. And the local Jews would never riot. So this would-be suggestion is only a sarcastic thought experiment, and is not intended as a suggestion or encouragement in any way.
Keys says
Instead of punishing the perpetrators, the victims are punished.
This seems alot like the dynamics of Islamic rape.
For details on attacks on synagogues in Australia in 2016:
http://www.ecaj.org.au/2016/antisemitic-incidents-in-australia-2016/
gravenimage says
All grimly true.
Jacqueleen says
Sounds to me that the Aussies are saying that they do not want the Muslims in their country…I could not agree more…Muslims do not assimilate because they are on a mission DAWA, to be exact, to multiply and infiltrate all facets of society until they are in the majority and then they will take over without firing a shot.
That would work if we all sit back and let them have their way. The Aussies are not going to sit back and I congratulate them…ISOLATION IS KEY. EVICT EVERY MUSLIM TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO LIVE IN TENTS AND CAVES where the uncivilized belong and ban them from entry or re-entry into a civilized nation.
The Politically Correct leaders are not listening to the people as is the case in the USA…..It will result in a war and lots of bloodshed…THE LEFT ARE INSANE AND SO ARE THEIR POLICIES.
Jacqueleen says
Try to protest the building of a Mosque!
ploome says
my head is exploding
Monty says
I live in Australia so I know that this country is heading down the same track as the rest of the free world. The west has lost its moral compass and backbone simultaneously. We have not sunk to the degree that the UK or most European nations have. Don’t worry, we are working hard to catch up. Islam has hyponotised the world. Our leaders especially have become like the hypnotist’s clown, running around and doing the hypnotist’s bidding no matter how ludicrous it seems. Will we ever wake up? Maybe, but it may well be too late by then.
Tom says
Australians, no matter the community or ethnic background, must stand up against this decision which is just WRONG and which once again puts Jews in a position of being victimized because of their very existence.
Radical Islam CANNOT be allowed to intimidate our communities and anyone who appeases their unreasonable demands or threats MUST be thrown out of office and replaced by those prepared to stand up for our western values, which includes protecting the rights of others.
Wake up Australia, “A Coward Dies A Thousand Deaths, A Brave Man Only One.” Tupac Shakur
gravenimage says
I hope all decent Australians protest this sickening dhimmi caving in to Muslim savagery.
John Forbes says
Australia seems to have the same diseases as the Europeans – DENIAL. COWARDICE & APPEASEMENT & a strange adoration of ISLAM !
The leaders are STILL SPROUTING : ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE FAST FOLLOWED UP WITH VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !
The MUSLIM population at the moment is low but Demographics show that this will not be the case in 20 years which is a very short time !
MUSLIM immigration has not been slowed at all & the debates are also slowing down as once again the LEFT supports ISLAMIC IMMIGRATION , MOSQUE BUILDING , SEX SEGREGRATION & an end to CHRISTIANITY !
Not at all a good prospect for this Island /Continent either with DEMOCRACY also under serious threat !!
Mr & MRS Local also seem as fast asleep as the EUROPEANS !!!!!!!!!
mortimer says
It is NOT the synagogue that is a SECURITY RISK… a synagogue hasn’t hurt anyone.
IT’S THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS THAT ARE THE SECURITY RISK.
Get rid of the ISLAMIC TERRORISTS, then build the synagogue!
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep.
Synagogues, churches, gurdwaras, Hindu and Buddhist temples… we have all of thosei n Australia and ALL of them – and also any painted caves and bora circles of the Aborigines, being places redolent of non-Islamic beliefs – are ALL potential targets for Mohammedan vandalism and mohammedan attacks. Not to mention pubs. And concert halls. And shopping centres, hotels, everywhere and anywhere that there are infidels congregated together.
Got Muslims? Got Jihad.
gravenimage says
Spot on, DDA.
Jason says
And yet the Left still insists that it is Muslims who are the oppressed ones.
I wonder if councils would stop approving mosques if people threatened to blow up every one that was built. Somehow I doubt it. This smells like a thinly disguised attempt to court Muslim votes.
Jack Holan says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/australia-synagogue-construction-blocked-because-islamic-jihadists-would-target-it
Robert,
I’m sorry I’m reporting this news to you. The next logical steps bar Jews from buying homes in certain neighborhoods prevent them from renting in multi-dwelling buildings keep Jewish businesses clustered. HELL let’s just ghettoize them again like in the Middle Ages. Can anyone begin to explain this insane World were the Victim become the target for wrath from non-terrorists and terrorist are rewarded for their deed or threat.
gravenimage says
Australia: Synagogue construction blocked because Islamic jihadists would target it
…………………….
This is in *Australia*. Good God.
Moreover, Muslims constitute just .4% of the population in the Bondi Beach area–which means that they are likely afraid that Jihadists will come in from elsewhere to deliberately target the Synagogue. Just appalling.
http://profile.id.com.au/waverley/religion?WebID=110
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s only a very short train trip or car trip from the southwestern suburbs – where Mohammedans in some areas constitute more than *50 percent* of the population, having steadily driven out the infidels by threats and bullying – to the eastern suburbs.
Pull up google maps. Google ‘Lakemba” and “Punchbowl” and “Auburn” and then “Bondi” and “WAverley”.
Also google up the Sydney train network and look at the lines.
gravenimage says
Yes, Dumbledore’s Army–I certainly know about the ugly Muslim-infested Sydney suburbs of Lakemba and Punchbowl, and assumed it would be ravening Mohammedans from these places threatening this Synagogue.
That parts of this beautiful city are overrun with Muslims, and that they are now threatening Infidels in the whole town, makes me ill.
Matthieu Baudin says
The question of security is one that the Synagogues congregation would have to face and deal with. If the concern is the drain on police resources in helping to shield the site from attack then any number of community building projects could also be deemed unsafe and vulnerable to attack. The real problem, that the ‘powers that be’ are always shying away from, is that there are large numbers of religious fanatics on the loose creating ever more mayhem preventing the rest of society from living quiet, happy and productive lives.
Jack Holan says
Sir
You’ve hit the nail on the head. What Western Democracies have done, turning a blind eye to to their first responsibility to the citizenry protect them and the structure of Government/freedoms they’ve enjoyed, they’ve taken the opposite track putting the populace in mortal danger and accepting a threat to their way of life. After WW2 most of Europe was displaced. The US, Canada, Australia New Zealand, South Africa didn’t start taking ing refugees on a wholesale basis especially without vetting. They setup DP Camps in Europe to sort out the meds and repatriate these refugees or make other arrangements if necessary. The process took years while these people were restricted to these camps for the safety of the local population. Contrast that with today. Countries taking them in after they essential broke into them as in Europe. The receive government housing education job placement however these refugees have no intention of assimilating they demand that the host population respect them different under the law as an exception to the law and if not they infer or flat out say there will be violence. They make no bones that there religion is superior to all others and can’t be criticized yet the call for the murder of Jews today and don’t worry as today in the Mid-East, Christians will be called for tomorrow.
The point of all this dialog is the clarity of the problem and solution. Why punish the citizen who is productive and respects the law? It’s time to close the spigot to immigration to groups that have to inclination towards assimilation nor loyalty to a country made up of many religions and ethnic groups. Those living in Australia found breaking laws based on religion creed, national origin race sex and so on and are not citizens need to be deported.
lucretia says
Live near a synagogue or a church? No problem. Live near a mosque? Noisy, hostile savages and lots of noise pollution.
Helena VonDrakenstein says
Looks like the Australian government has decided to go the anti semite route.How convenient that the jihaddy daddy bunch gave them the perfect excuse to pull an anti semite move
CoastalSue says
Australia took away citizens’ guns. The Jews can’t protect themselves. Now the leftist politicians bring in Muslims to attack the defenceless citizens. All Australians, not just Jews. Please explain how this makes sense.
We must protect our 2nd amendment rights in the United States.
s says
The implementation of Sharia throughout the nations of the world is occurring rapidly……
Citizens of all the nations must protest in unison!
dumbledoresarmy says
Advice to Aussie Jews, my much respected fellow citizens: please, if you’re not already doing it, discreetly set up Krav Maga classes attached to *all* your existing synagogues. Every able-bodied person from age 7 on up gets regular instruction for a nominal cost.
And… discreetly advertise the classes amongst the – NON-MUSLIM Aussie non-Jewish community. You might find you got a *lot* of customers.
patriotliz says
Australia foiled this terror plot…doesn’t make the news here…unless it was successful:
https://t.co/9Tmq52ll5J
al norm says
i hope the Eastern Suburbs Jews act like Israelis on this and not the tradition of submission. The role models of Moses or Jacob are not to be followed. Don’t line up for the cattle truck. Now is the time to stand your ground and fight. You may be surprised how much support you will get.
tim gallagher says
A disgusting development for sure. Muslims are only 2% of Australia’s population and yet already cause so much trouble as I am always pointing out to our polticians when I write to them. Of course, some areas are of Sydney are over 50% Muslim and are overrun by Muslims. This issue with the synagogue, although probably unnoticed by most people and not covered on the main TV news at all (as far as I could see), is getting quite a response. There’s a very good, fairly conservative Blogger, Radio and TV commentator here in Australia named Andrew Bolt and on his blog he had a large number of people writing comments on this synagogue issue. 300 comments when I looked. I sometimes have thought of Andrew Bolt as being a bit like Robert Spencer in terms of the amount of work they both seem to do. It seems they must never take a moment off. Both doing important work in fighting against a lot of the insanity around these days. I hope they maintain their energy and passion and courage. But then again, Robert’s written far more books than Bolt. So Robert’s an even harder worker. This issue with the synagogue and many other issues just show how much worse Australia is becoming, how much less civilised. This has to be reversed or we’re on the road to hell..
Becky Logue says
Perhaps there are sympathizers toward the jihadists in.city government. The excuse seems contrived, as if a bunch of guys sat around a table & brainstormed. I hate to think that about Australians, but anybody anywhere can dislike Jews, even if he doesn’t know exactly why he doesn’t like them.
Mike O'Begley says
The problem I see is the backward logic. If the synagogue is too much of a target to the Islamic extremists, if ANY house of worship should be denied or shut down, it ought to be a mosque.
I’m not sure mosques even need to be shut down (although if everything else has been tried…), but what DOES need to happen is Muslims in particular due to their aggression, but also every immigrant, must be forced to adapt to the way of life in their host nation or be marked as “failure to integrate” and be deported.
That is not “racist”, if you don’t want to get deported, show some respect for your new nation! After all, no Muslim country would allow Westerners to flood in and make demands. They’d imprison or behead us!
Frank Anderson says
Mike, the day that Islam tolerates infidels and lets them live in peace among Muslims is also the day Islam ceases to be. The whole 1400 years of Islam is a continuous, not continual, striving for conquest and subjugation of all it can reach. The concept of negotiating with Muslims is utterly false, because they are taught from the earliest age that their word to non-believers is never binding; and that lying to infidels whenever advantage can be obtained is encouraged.