Ammar Shahin recently called for the “annihilation” of the Jews. In the ensuing controversy, the Washington Post ran interference for him. Now the Post may have to go to bat for Shahin once again: it has come to light that last year he denounced democracy and the Constitution as “idols.”
Now, only greasy Islamophobes are supposed to believe that democracy and Islamic law are incompatible. Is Ammar Shahin a greasy Islamophobe?
“California Friday Sermon by Imam Ammar Shahin: Democracy and the Constitution Are Like Idols Made of Dates – Archival,” MEMRI, November 11, 2016:
On November 11, 2016, Imam Ammar Shahin gave a Friday sermon at the Islamic Center of Davis, California, in which he compared democracy and the constitution to “idols that the infidels used to worship, which were made from dates.” Imam Shahin said that unlike the Quran, democracy is man-made and could be changed. “You are taking democracy, the constitution, and all these matters that they fool you with… as a sacred religion now?” he asked.
MEMRI recently exposed two antisemitic sermons by Imam Shahin (for his July 21, 2017 sermon, see https://www.memri.org/tv/california-sermon-antisemitic-sermon-kill-jews-liberate-al-aqsa-mosque; for his July 14 sermon, see https://www.memri.org/tv/california-sermon-ammar-shahin-prays-allah-turn-jerusalem-palestine-into-graveyard-for-jews/). Following the Islamic Center of Davis’s claim that MEMRI had mistranslated and taken Imam Shahin’s July 21 statements out of context, MEMRI published a response: see https://memri.org/reports/memri-responds-islamic-center-daviss-statement-following-exposure-imam-shahins-july-21).
Sheikh Ammar Shahin: “You want to go and protest in the streets, if it is going to change anything? Go ahead! You chose democracy and you chose… The ruling of people is the ruling of people that could change at any time because it is a law made by the hand of humans. Therefore it could be changed. You are taking democracy, the constitution, and all these matters that they fool you with… You are taking it as a sacred religion now? It’s not Quran. It’s a change. If they want a change, they will change it. One amendment they don’t like. There you go – let’s vote to change it. Finished! It is not Quran. It is not Sahih Bukhari. It is not Sahih Muslim. This is what Muslims should know. You know this. We follow the law. We live by the law wherever we are. But know that this law could change any time. If they want to change it for you, they will, and against you, they will.
“They are talking about people getting deported – if they want to do that, they will do it. Who cares if it is against the constitution? It is not revealed by God. Muslims now have taken these matters as revelation. And you know better – that it is not. Like someone described it before – he said: These things, these matters, democracy, constitution, all of these things that people make today, are like the idols that the infidels used to worship, which were made from dates. The infidels used to worship idols from dates. They’ll make their own date idol that looks very nice. But when they get hungry, what would they do? They eat it. This is what happened. They eat their gods. Yeah, because they need it… Omar said: ‘When I look back at what I used to do, I used to make an idol from dates, and I looked at it and I worshipped it.’ He said: ‘How dumb was I – that when I get hungry, I eat my god?’ This is what they do now.”
abad says
If Shahin has so many problems with the United States of America – as all Moslems do – they WHY doesn’t he move to Syria or Iraq?
gravenimage says
Because he wants to turn our civilized society into the same kind of Islamic sh*t hole, abad–but with more Infidels to exploit and oppress.
Syed Kamran Mirza says
I do agree 500% with Gravenimage. Islamists living in the western world are pure hypocrites. They are waiting to see the destruction of western civilization so that Allah can establish islamic paradise full of hijab and nikab, and Burkha etc and tons of Mosques the breeding house of Jihadists and hypocrites. Massaallah!!!
Marty says
Shahin should shut up. He wants to bring the misery violence of sharia to non muslims and reduce us all to a permanent and violent dark age.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
utis says
If the Constitution is an idol, what is the muslim attitude to the physical Koran? A lousy copy of a book that was never written down till long after the “author” died, gets people killed if they destroy or damage it. If that isn’t idolatry, what is?
James Pierce says
Why is he wearing a Santa Claus hat?
utis says
I was wondering that, too. I’ve seen pictures of Imam Hooky in one of those caps, so it must symbolize something. Does it separate sheikhs from imams, or does it represent a permissible sub-sect of Sunnis, like Hanbalis? Whatever it means, I hope pictures like this clown don’t get me creeping out over Santa pictures.
gravenimage says
The “Santa Claus hat”–bad Santa, that–signifies that he has a connection to Al Azhar, the highest seat of Sunni learning. So this is orthodox Islam.
John Forbes says
Douglas Murray probably says it best in : Douglas Murray – what have we learned on youtube !
He also states that THESE PEOPLE ARE SERIOUS & IT IS HIGH TIME WE GOT SERIOUS TO !
The WESTERN LEADERS at least so far simply refuse yo face up to the fact that what is SCREAMED on street corners about us & our society is what MUSLIMS BELIEVE & want !
a) That DEMOCRACY is IMMORAL & NON ISLAMIC & that they want to live under SHARIA & they insist that all of us live under SHARIA as well !
b) We are FILTH because we are not believers & they are superior !
c) OUR WOMEN & CHILDREN are fair game for rape & abuse because they go out alone , have uncovered heads & wear western clothes that do not cover everything!
d) they do not believe an ANY WESTERN CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEMS or LAWS & only believe in ALLAH & the SHARIA
e) They hate CHRISTIANS,JEWS,HINDU;s Sikhs , Bhuddists & all people of other faiths as well as GAYS , APOSTATES & all non believers ~
WESTERN LEADERS & GOVERNMENTS ARE DESPERATE to believe & insist that we believe the lies ! Listen to Douglas Murray – what have we learned – here on youtube.
Jim Austin says
As postmodernists, liberals believe all cultures are equal and for Westerners to condemn certain Moslems for their call for genocide of Jews is tantamount to intolerance, hate, bigotry, Islamophobia and racism.
As Obama had once told us not to get on our “high horse” over ISIS burning people alive, so liberals have developed a tolerance and indulgence of atrocities spawned by other cultures.
Gary says
And even the comment “High Horse” was stolen by Obama, and directed at Christians. ….His typical arrogance in motion.
Retired Auto Racer Darrell Walthrop had used those very words, (PRIOR to Obama), that very day, in that very room.
It was the National Day of Prayer – Breakfast. Darrell was a guest speaker. He had told a story about how his wife wanted him to go to church with her. He used the excuse that he raced on Sundays, so he couldn’t attend church. He later,(After a near fatal crash), admitted that he needed to get off his ‘High Horse’ and humble himself before God and seek The Lord Jesus Christ.
Obama’s comment was an arrogant attempt to compare the Christian Crusades to what ISIS has been doing.
Obama is and will always be….. The worst President in the history of the United States of America.
gravenimage says
I am *no* fan of Obama, but “high horse” is a widely used phrase in English. which has been around since at least the late 18th century. There is no reason to suppose that he ‘stole’ the reference from Darrell Walthrop.
That being said, his grotesque moral equivalence between the civilized West and the horror of ISIS was just sickening.
anke Leibrecht says
absolutely right, why are we tolerating this, why…Islam
is a mental illness…
Robert_k says
” It is not Sahih Bukhari. It is not Sahih Muslim.”
So Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari are not so bad. Well they must be better than Mein Kampf which was authored by a man Hitler, no?
gravenimage says
Actually, orthodox Islam and Fascism have a great deal in common–they are both totalitarian creeds.
Gary says
WAKE UP AMERICA!!
Sharia IS A TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL IDEOLOGY, GOV’T, AND IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR CONSTITUTION.
Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House. Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited.
U.S. Code § 1182 – Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
“The Preamble to the US Constitution states that one of the purposes of government is to “provide for the common defence [sic].” Article four, section four of the Constitution states specifically that the “United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion.” It is a constitutional requirement that the federal government defend the nation.”
gravenimage says
California imam who called for “annihilation” of Jews denounced democracy and Constitution as “idols” in 2016
…………………..
In other words, this bloody thugs considers lopping off the heads of “blasphemers” and stoning rape victims to death to be the ‘unchanging law of god’–and he and his fellow pious Muslims here will impose that here if we let them.
PRCS says
As he whips out that old saw, “We follow the law. We live by the law wherever we live”, he’s not really impugning democracy,of course, because he and his pals down at the ole’ masjid know it’s that very mechanism through which they–and their lawyers–will implement their agenda.
Think Dearborn and Minneapolis, as examples.
gravenimage says
Exactly, PRCS.
mortimer says
Imam Ammar Shahin is quoting many notable proponents of POLITICAL ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY
“Demolish all governments and organizations that are established by man. The return of Allah’s kingdom can only be established with a sword. Absolute rebellion is a must against anything on earth that conflicts with Islam and to destroy it with great power”.
-Sayed Qutb
“Islam must conquer the Earth. Not just parts of the Earth, but all of it. The purpose of Jihad is totalitarian: It demands the engagement of all Muslims until our entire planet is ruled according to the precepts of Islam. All other ideologies, as systems where man-made laws rule, are enemies. Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the Earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam.” – Maulana Maududi
Georg says
Fareed Zakaria writes for WaPo and penned a cute lil’ tome *The Post-American World* (not sure if this came before or after his piece about white American men dying off). He’d happily proselytize for this Satanist and condemn democracy and the constitution to their worldly demise.
brane pilot says
This Islamist is wearing a red and white Santa hat.
That is so wrong.
Is nothing sacred any more?
Michael Copeland says
“Imam Shahin said that unlike the Quran, democracy is man-made and could be changed.”
The Koran cannot be changed?
The Topkapi manuscript of the Koran in Istanbul is 8th Century. It has been examined by Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu and others. It contains 2,270 differences from the modern Koran.
Imam Shahin’s statement is wrong.