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Finland: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” go on stabbing spree, woman and baby among victims

Aug 18, 2017 10:34 am By Robert Spencer

Yet another battle in the war that only one side admits is being waged.

“Finland incident: Police shoot man ‘who stabbed several people’ in city of Turku,” by Stephen Jones, Mirror, August 18, 2017:

Finland ‘terror attack’: Several people injured after ‘knifeman screaming Allahu Akbar’ goes on rampage in city

Armed police have opened fire on a knife-wielding attacker ‘screaming Allahu Akbar’ who has gone on a rampage ‘randomly stabbing people’ in Finland.

Police have confirmed “several people have been knifed” in the centre of Turku this afternoon – including ‘a woman and a baby’.

The police are urging people to avoid the centre of town – and a body has reportedly been spotted covered up.

According to information police have opened fire – and witnesses report seeing a pool of blood.

Early reports say one assailant was shot in the leg – and this person was arrested.

The police tweeted at 2.50pm: “Several persons stabbed in central Turku. Police has shot at suspected perpetrator. One person is apprehended.”

Five minutes earlier they tweeted: “People are advised to leave the Centre of Turku.”

According to an eyewitness, the incident happened close to the Market Square.

Among the injured is an elderly mother with a young boy nearby – both of whom were spotted covered in blood….

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  1. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 10:45 am

    In retrospect maybe it wasn’t so smart to import Moslems into Finland. You won’t hear that discussed in the media, that would be religious bigotry. And, although free speech is frowned upon in Scandinavia, I bet the stabbed mom and baby aren’t so big on Moz importation now. But they better keep their mouths shut on the subject, if the Finnish authorities don’t get them, the Moslems will.

    • tom parry says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      The police should have shot to kill, maiming the terrorist insures millions of govt tax kroners to keep him healthy and cared for the rest of his life. Unfortunatly there is no death penatly in most of Europe- I guess you could almost say the same for the USA.

  2. mariam rove says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 10:47 am

    In retrospect maybe it wasn’t so smart to import Moslems into Finland..
    It nener is. M

    • Keith says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      Try telling that to our stupid leaders, both civic and religious.

  3. Paul F Austin says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Let’s face it – it is total suicide to import Muslims into ANY non-Muslim country. Apart from having the oil what other possible reason would there be to have these heathens in ANY Western country? List please on a postage stamp.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 4:35 pm

      All too many Infidels believe that Muslims are just poor “refugees” who need sanctuary. They desperately don’t want to understand that they are an invading army.

  4. Liila says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:03 am

    My parents emigrated here from Finland after WW2. I remember as far back as the 80’s—my aunt telling me that these Somalians were coming over and couldn’t stop raping the Finnish girls. And boys. And barnyard animals…Back then no one ever dreamed that things would come to this in Europe. Sweden, France, Germany and England are all ready doomed. I pray the Finns call upon their “sisu”, (a Finnish term that refers to Finns having a spine of steel, inner fortitude, courage and strength) and do what’s necessary to turn back the tide in Finland. But with no support from the government, looks like my beloved Suomi will follow suit. After all, we’re all infidels…

    • VampireJack says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      It’s not just the Fins who have to call upon their “sisu” – but the rest of us European men whose homelands are being GIVEN AWAY with a fit. I don’t see “sisu” among most of my fellow British men, more like “Sissy”.
      My brothers and sisters in the US (and other countries where this scourge is growing – be it in the Americas, Europe, Africa and everywhere else) – it’s time to put aside the petty race-hate crap that is tearing us apart and stand TOGETHER against the real threat that is laughing at us all the time.
      I don’t give a damn if your’e black,white or all the wonderful colours inbetween – it IS coming for you. And your women. Whether “they” want it or not.

      Oh, and I wonder if CNN will call out the leaders in Spain for not “specifically naming islam” in relationship to yesterdays events?
      FAKE NEWS should be ashamed of themselves.

      • Ace USMC says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm

        the “chosen” ones have done all this, the internet allowed all to see them lurking in the shadows. for THOUSANDS of years they have lit the match when discovered

      • Budvarakbar says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm

        Watch the 1939 movie “The Real Glory” full length on You Tube. Gary Cooper, David Niven, Broderick Crawford – re Moros in Philippines 1906

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      Thanks for the information, Liila–I had not realized the Muslim rape crisis in Europe dated back quite so far. I hope Finns and other Europeans wake up and *fight back*.

      • Phil Copson says

        Aug 19, 2017 at 8:38 am

        “….I had not realized the Muslim rape crisis in Europe dated back quite so far…..”

        I think that the entire history of the Western world vis-a-vis Islam, the Ottoman Empire, etc etc has been largely air-brushed from the teaching of history and the collective mind. What previous generations held as common knowledge of the behaviour of the Turks, Arabs etc has been deleted, partly in the belief that such horrors belonged to a past that would never and could never be repeated, partly because twentieth-century wars were almost exclusively fought between non-muslim nations and there was no appetite to know about older conflicts except as a curiosity, but currently to assist the mass migration programme.
        The Italian film “Two Women” in which Sophia Loren played the mother of a 12-year old girl, both of whom are raped by Moroccan troops during the invasion of Italy, is the only WW2 film I know that acknowledges this reality.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 20, 2017 at 5:29 pm

          Phil, you are right–I know this history.

          I should have said the *modern* Muslim rape crisis, brought on by European nations foolishly allowing in Muslim migrants.

  5. john spielman says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:03 am

    I guess allah wanted some fresh sacrifices for lunch – allah ‘s tummy is never satisfied

  6. Barry says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:10 am

    This all reminds me a bit of the Titanic….iceberg (islam) rips a gash (murder) in the hull (collective body of civilized humanity)….in the case of islam, the hull has been ripping/ filling with death/ murder for ~1400 years…water continues to seep in (more murder/death)….more water, more murder/death….we all know how the story ends….survivors on lifeboats and many, many needless deaths (in the case of islam ‘murder’). Good always triumphs over evil…..but at what cost…….

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 11:50 am

      Good does not always triumph over evil. And we should not assume that things will turn out well for the civilized world, now that the Muslim invaders are among us (again) — because this time, we’ve invited them, and far too many infidels refuse to see the danger.

      World War III — being waged via violent jihad, stealth jihad, & demographic jihad — will only have a happy ending if we wake up enough of our fellow infidels, then start fighting back effectively.

      • Barry says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 12:52 pm

        Eventually good ALLWAYS triumphs over evil. That is a basic premise of Gods holy word and promise.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 2:31 pm

          I don’t buy it, Barry. I’m not into hocus-pocus. I think it’s up to us (entirely), if good is to triumph over evil.

        • Barry says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 2:41 pm

          The one TRUE God is NOT hocus pocus. A rational being as yourself should know that.

        • Budvarakbar says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 4:42 pm

          God helps those – who help THEMSELVES

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 5:01 pm

          There can be *enormous* suffering among good people if good people do not themselves fight against evil.

  7. ElderlyZionist says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:12 am

    Jihad in Finland, of all places. What did the neutralist Finns ever do to Muslims, besides send relief supplies and offer some of them refuge? Breathe, and eat pork, I guess.

    Finns have a reputation as tough people who see reality clearly and speak plainly. I don’t think Finland will go down to the jihad.

    • mariam rove says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 11:29 am

      Unless they deport all of them, I do not see what other choices they will have. m

      • Savvy Kafir says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 2:32 pm

        Agreed.

    • Historian says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      Your rhetorical question what did “the Finns” ever to Muslims reveals that you have bought into propaganda about jihad supposedly only being defensive. It isn’t. Read ” War and Peaces in the Law of Islam” by Majid Khadduri or other scholarly treatment: jihad is both offensive and defensive. Muslims are only indigenous to one region, the Hijaz.; What did the Romans and Persians do to the Muslims of the Hijaz? Nothing. yet Muslims offensively conquered most of the Middle East (N. Africa, the Levant and Anatolia) from the Romans and Persians, and justified their unprovoked aggression religiously. And after this they conquered part of India and kept trying to conquer Europe–regions that had also done nothing against Muslims before Muslims subjected them to unprovoked aggression. Traditional Islamic teaching on jihad is that Muslims have a duty to conquer the ENTIRE world and subjugate all non-Muslims to Islamic rule IN PERPETUITY. Doesn’t matter what you did or did not “do” to Muslims. Per traditional Islamic teaching you have no right to live in any state but one ruled by Muslims and Islamic law.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 5:03 pm

        True, Historian.

      • J_not_a says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 6:05 pm

        @ historian – It was “sarcasm” stupid. And just so you know, I didn’t read past the first sentence of your long and winding encyclopedic-length entry, although I’m sure you derived enjoyment out of it.

        I have been a reader of this website for over 12 years. I don’t need to be lectured by a bloviating, arrogant, pompous, legend in his own mind clown like you. You wasted your time typing all that crap out.

        And, GI, I’m surprised and disappointed you’d be kissing the butt of this supercillious smartass.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 11:47 pm

          J_not_a, I just meant that Historian was correct about Jihad not being defensive or provoked. Please see my reply above:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/finland-muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-go-on-stabbing-spree-woman-and-baby-among-victims/comment-page-1#comment-1725027

          Certainly, he should not have made dismissive assumptions about what you know.

  8. mortimer says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:28 am

    Robert Spencer is right: “… the war that only one side admits is being waged.”

    All Muslims know that they are at war with the West, but Western elites and Leftists are in denial.

    Western elites and Leftists are like HEROIN ADDICTS who are constantly STONED on their IDEOLOGY which wrongly assumes (without evidence) that Islam is benign and will not BUTCHER THE socialists as soon as Muslims have the chance!

    Leftists don’t realize that Islam does not tolerate agnostic or atheist socialists. Political Islam is a form of fascism plus Allah.

    • Paul says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      I agree with much of what you say, but I think it’s more an issue of agreement
      than denial. You only have to look at things that islamists and the far-left have
      in common – a hatred of Christianity, Israel, the West in general, democracy,
      individualism, personal accountability, personal freedom, a love of mob rule
      violence, intimidation and absolute control and, very often, extreme sexual
      perversion. I’m sure there are many more things I could have listed. But yes,
      the left’s chickens will indeed come home to roost…

      • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 1:16 pm

        I agree with both of you, but I think that there’s another factor at work in the leftist embrace of Islam. Yes, I believe that leftists (falsely, and dangerously) see “common ground” with Islam, but I also believe that leftists are so zealous in their world view, and in their circular, self-congratulatory assertions of their own goodness, and the concomitant evil of everyone who disagrees with them, that I believe that they are convinced that Muslims are rebelling against social injustice, and that that’s the entirety of the motivation of Muslims (in the eyes of leftists).

        I believe that leftists view everyone else’s motivations through the lens of their own worldview — which is incredibly ironic, since they vilify anyone whose words and actions don’t satisfy their own misguided views of justice and tolerance. In effect, by projecting (what little remains of) their Judeo-Christian, western, capitalist values onto Muslims — the idea that they just want equality for all, and a fair piece of the benefits of modern society — the leftists are in fact, entirely intolerant of Islamic doctrine. What’s worse is that since leftists are convinced of their own self-described goodness, tolerance and compassion, they don’t believe that they need to adopt any other method of looking at the world (to do so, in their eyes, would be less good, less tolerant and less compassionate — if only they knew…).

        So, if some tolerance cum appeasement isn’t enough, the answer must surely be more of it. If some welfare isn’t enough, the answer must be more of it. If some marching and verbal solidarity isn’t enough, the answer must be more of it.

        That’s why I believe that it will be harder for leftists to ever accept that Islam is fundamentally an evil, intolerant, murderous cult. I think that we’re likely to see the leftist rhetoric raised even higher before we see it change, if it ever changes.

        • aDhimmiSaysWhat? says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 8:19 pm

          Well put. You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, it’s gonna take a whole lot more rape and murder before they change their stance. After the Muslims lost Grenada in Spain in 1492, it took another 200 years before the Spanish finally decided to expel all the Muslims. At their current birthrate, expelling Muslims from western civilization might not be possible. Time is running short…

        • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

          Aug 19, 2017 at 1:48 am

          aDhimmiSaysWhat?,

          200 years…oy vey…

          I think it’ll always be possible to defeat Muslim hate and jihad. But the longer western civilization waits, the harder and uglier any successful strategy will likely be. The uglier things get, the easier sell a harder and uglier successful strategy might become. Not that’s an eventuality to look forward to. I sure wish the appeasers hadn’t been kicking such a growing can of Islam down the road.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 5:09 pm

        Not everyone in denial about the threat of Islam wants to see the civilized West destroyed–most do not, but still desperately believe that most Muslims share Western values.

        • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm

          gravenimage,

          Fair enough, but my references to “leftists” are intended to mean the more/most zealous leftist ideologues, and not just, for example, everyone who votes democrat in the US, or everyone who voted against Brexit in the UK.

          It’s always helpful to be reminded that we’re all (myself included) subject to the filters of our own viewpoints. And your comment is more encouraging than mine, and I completely agree with you. Thanks.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 11:51 pm

          Agreed, ItsReallyQuiteClear.

          Grimly, there *are* hard Leftists who want to see the civilized West destroyed.

  9. Traylor says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Things are scary now, and have been for a long time. But we can still turn the tide by educating others about jihad’s tactics, contacting our government representatives, staying alert and telling authorities if we see anything suspicious.

    The police will do what they can, but it will help them a lot to have thousands of people watching for danger as well. At the same time, we have to stay calm…that will help us think better in a crisis.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 5:17 pm

      +1

  10. mortimer says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:31 am

    Western people should start wearing leather neck-protectors.

    K.8.12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

    • Paul says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 11:47 am

      Hate to say it – as if we haven’t had more than enough already – but it will take
      major, major wholesale atrocities and for everyone to be dragged right out of their
      comfort zones (welfare states, nauseating TV programmes etc.) to do what needs to
      be done. At that point, people will just override all the PC idiots who stand between
      them and their innate desire to survive. That’s the only bit of confidence I have
      right now. Just terrible and so sad that even more innocent blood will flow in the meantime…

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 5:25 pm

      We need Muslims out of our civilized nations–no Muslims, no Jihad.

  11. moeped says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 11:58 am

    MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

  12. Wellington says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    The new normal, courtesy of 1) the worst religion of all time; and 2) Western elites in the political realm, the media and academia who remain in denial of Islam’s true nature.

  13. marina says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    Now who will vacation in Europe with all the Islamic filth running amok !! At least we still have our U.S and South America.

    • abad says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      Poland and Hungary are reasonably safe. Their leaders do not capitulate to Islam.

  14. John Baptist says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Allah vs Yahweh
    https://youtu.be/T-6jCddNOPg

  15. OP says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    The Finns are as soft as the rest of Scandinavia, they’ll go down just like Sweden, Norway and Denmark. My neighbors are back home in Finland for much of the summer. My neighbors are very religious Christians and the kindest people in the world. The mother told me that she felt people were unnecessarily hateful and mean to the poor Muslims. There is no more hope for Finland than the rest of Europe. If you’ve known Germans they are plain spoken too and have completely folded in the face of Islam.

    • J_not_a says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      Why are most Europeans so bl@@dy naive? They obviously have no knowledge os islam’s ferocious and repeated attempts over the centuries to take over their continent, and how close they came to loosing it for good. And are again.

  16. Tom says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    The Jihad across Europe is heating up. Liberals and the left are still in la la land about where this is coming from and why.

    Only those who have educated themselves about jihad, its roots and intent, will be prepared for what is to come. Liberals and the left are like deer caught in the headlights of a vehicle, they know there is an imminent threat to their life but have no clue how to deal with it and are too afraid of words to attempt to understand and identify the threat.

  17. Manuel 2 Paleologus says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    All the muslims have to be deported regardless. Than the peace will prevail.
    The Christian Faith has to be preserved and revitalized, because it is the main fabric of Europe.

  18. Walter Sieruk says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    The answer to the question “What is harshness ?” is rather obvious when a jihad -minded Muslim engages brutal ,callous and heartless action of stabbing people As in this case example in Finland.. Such behavior is very brutal malicious and vicious .It likewise does much harm and is therefore very harsh. The Quran in Surah 9:123 instructs “O you who believe ! Fight those of the disbeliever who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.”
    The reason the those jihadist /Muslims are so harsh is because of the teaching of the religious book which his the Quran. Likewise, the violent jihadist are so extremely violent because of their religion ,Islam .
    It’s worth noting that the Bible teaches that there are callous ,heartless and dangerous men because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. [K.J.V.]
    The “hot iron” in this case is Islam.

  19. abad says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    Moslems have no place whatsoever in Finland. Time to round them all up and deport them back to Syria.

  20. RationalVoice says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    Religion as we all know, or should know, causes violence wherever it is strong as it pits one lot of fantasists against another load of fantasists who without empirical evidence insist they have been privy to some direct communication from a non-existent being they call “God”.All of it is wishful thinking.They only differ in the interpretation they give to these very old books and in the case of some more recent religions have their own books written by some very bad characters in the USA in the 19 and 20th century.I will let you guess which ones I am referring to.
    Islam is clearly the worst religion currently and not to be tolerated anywhere in my opinion.
    Atheism or Rationalism is not a religion or political movement as some people on this page seem to think.
    You can be an Atheist and be in any political party Left,Right or Center and most would want humanity to drop this “god” self deception and in the case of politicians especially in the USA to stop this calculated career minded lie that they are “God fearing men”.
    It is ironic that a country which has contributed so much to scientific knowledge and technology still has so many citizens who fool themselves with this outdated nonsense. But then it fools itself with the belief that letting all and sundry possess firearms somehow makes them safe.Forty thousand murders each and every year would suggest otherwise.This is not a Left/Liberal point of view it is just common sense
    Whats the difference between an Atheist and say a Christian ? Well it has been estimated that there are 4200 religions in the world today.The Atheist doesn’t believe 4200 of them,the Christian doesn’t believe 4199 of them.The difference is 1.I don’t believe it is even 1 because no one actually practices the Christianity as described in the gospels because like the early Christians in Rome they would end up in some form of slavery or be put to death as the Muslims are trying to do everyday throughout the world and getting away with it because of oil money, power politics ,wishful thinking,and popes and politicians turning a blind eye to the real problem .i.e. The falsehoods of religious belief !!!!

    • Tom says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      If the fundamentals of a religion are peaceful then the more fundamental a practitioner becomes, the more peaceful he/she becomes.

      If the fundamentals of a religion are violent then the more fundamental a practitioner becomes, the more violent one becomes.

      This is the basic difference between most other religions, which teach peace, respect and love for ones fellow man, and Islam which teaches that all who do not become believers must be subjugated as second class persons, slaves or must be killed.

      There is a difference which MUST be identified by the west in order to be able to defeat the existential threat that Islam poses to western civilization.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      RationalVoice wrote:

      Religion as we all know, or should know, causes violence wherever it is strong
      …………………..

      This is rot. The members of faiths other than Islam are not slaughtering people in the streets–why would you pretend that they are?

      • abad says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 6:40 pm

        Agreed.

        You can take the very worst of the worst of “Christian” leaders in the USA – I’d say the late Fred Phelps – yet he never killed anyone. He and his little Westboro family church did lots of picketing though – I think they still do.

        Yet, the Liberal Elite denounces Westboro much faster than “Allahu Akhbar” Islamic crimes.

        • alex smythe says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 11:41 pm

          Abad: Fred Phelps Senior never “directly” killed anyone, but he may well have pushed the late Debbie Valgos (Fred Phelps Jr’s) girlfriend to her death. When he heard that she had died, he (Fred Sr.) did a dance and sang “Ding dong the witch is dead,” according to some of his children (who have since broken away from the family). He apparently disapproved of her because she was Roman Catholic. He also allegedly hated Swedish people because he considered them “fag-loving heretics and apostates”, and one of his sons broke off from the church/family to marry a Swedish-American girl whom he (Fred Sr.) disliked. He celebrated in a sermon when the Dec.26th, 2004 tsunami in Southeast Asia killed a quarter-million people, including many Swedes who had been residing or visiting in the region.

          However, it is true that the WBC don’t carry out murder and mayhem like these Islamist jihadis do, though their (WBC’s) rhetoric is certainly hateful most of the time. With the Islamist jihadis, you get hateful rhetoric, incitement to violence and terrorism, and terrorism itself all at the same time.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 11:58 pm

          There is no doubt that Fred Phelps was a nasty piece of work–I used to square off against his mean-spirited followers quite frequently in the 1980s and ’90s.

          But not only did he and his followers never kill anyone–though they did rejoice over the death of others–but the “Westboro Baptist Church” was never larger than about 70 members, almost all of whom were relatives or inlaws of Phelps himself.

          This “Church” was not accepted by Baptists, or Southern Baptists, or any other Christian denomination. In fact, Christians regularly criticized Phelps for his ugliness.

  21. lebel says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    Is it confirmed that he screamed God is great?

    • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 1:46 pm

      lebel,

      The Mirror reported that he shouted “Allahu Akbar”. You are, of course, free to question anything you’d like (and you certainly don’t need me to offer that).

      But the correct translation of Allahu Akbar is very important, and while more knowledgeable people than me will surely reply here, it seems very improbable that the translation would be “God is great”, since the greatest sin in Islam is “shirk”, or associating or worshiping any being other than Allah. It seems much more believable that the translation is “Allah is greatest”.

      Quran 4:48:

      “Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.”

      Allahu Akbar, particularly when shouted as a prelude to murdering someone at the direction of Islamic doctrine, surely is intended to mean that the perpetrator is committing that act in the name of Islam, and that they believe their God is greater than your God (or anything else).

      • lebel says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 1:51 pm

        The thing is other papers have not mentioned that he screamed “Allah u akbar” – we should make sure that this is the case.

        • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 2:15 pm

          lebel,

          Okay. But, when you read in a newspaper that a murder was committed in Chicago, and for which there was no report of the murderer screaming Allahu Akbar, do you also admonish that we should make sure that it wasn’t screamed in that case? Fortunately, at the present time, it would be reasonable not to ask that.

          “When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras”

        • ChristianJ says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 2:45 pm

          Lebel I think it’s more safe to assume it’s ISLAMIC TERROR whenever a van runs over people or there is a stabbing attack somewhere in Europe than to assume otherwise. To assume it’s ISLAM will make you correct 99 percent of the time (made up stat, but you know what I mean). Stop believing there is any good in ISLAM – there is NONE. These are invaders – not refugees.

        • Markus says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 3:59 pm

          Finnish person here. As far as I know, the claim that he screamed the Islamist slogan is based solely on eye-whitness accounts (or maybe only one account) but there seems to be no video evidence of it.

          At this point it seems most likely that he is a Jihadist, but police are still conducting the investigation.

          In any case this is horrifying.. :'(

        • lebel says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 4:41 pm

          ChristianJ I agree that the probability is high, nevertheless it needs to be confirmed before claims are made and believed. I have found no evidence that he screamed God is great. For the time being, while its quitepossibility an islamic terror attack, we do not know for sure.

        • lebel says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 4:41 pm

          ChristianJ I agree that the probability is high, nevertheless it needs to be confirmed before claims are made and believed. I have found no evidence that he screamed God is great. For the time being, while its quitepossibility an islamic terror attack, we do not know for sure.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 5:52 pm

      lebel wrote:

      Is it confirmed that he screamed God is great?
      ………………..

      The Mirror reported that he did. However, this clashes with lebel’s constant crusade to find anything to undermine at Jihad Watch.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 7:27 pm

        lebel is a Turkish Muslim. He is here to disinform, to undercut, to throw sand and generally do everything he can to prevent the Infidels from seeing what Islam – the Religion of Blood and War – is all about.

        • lebel says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 7:33 pm

          Fine, he screamed allah u akbar, Obama is a secret Muslim and I am a Turkish Muslim.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 18, 2017 at 7:49 pm

          More sneering from lebel. Whatever he is, his constant goal is to undercut any defense against Jihad.

  22. John A. Marre says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    Why are there Muslims in Finland? I thought Finns were very smart, creative and productive people! Why would they allow ignorant, moronic parasites into Finland?

    • abad says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 6:48 pm

      I have no idea – I know that the Finnish and Hungarian languages are related – what about as a people? Are Finnish people related to the Hungarians? I am really sorry this is happening to Finland. Maybe suggest to the Finnish President, and the Prime Minister, to do an Orban and start evicting Moslems from Finland.

      Many, many, many years ago I read the Kalevala and very much liked the stories in it.

      Time for Finland to say bye-bye to Islam.

      • Ottilia says

        Aug 18, 2017 at 9:20 pm

        I am Hungarian and yes, Finnish and Hungarian are remotely related. Actually the language is closely related, I am not sure about the ethnicity.
        We Hungarians are NOT soft spoken or shy. We speak as we mean it. And I am wondering who or which country will fire the first shot to stop this invasion. Because sooner or later there will be no other means to stop these invaders

        • abad says

          Aug 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm

          Hi Ottilia:

          Thank you for your response, I used to know a few words in Hungarian but have unfortunately forgotten them over the years. Maybe Hungary (hopefully Hungary) will fire that first shot, as you said. I know a few Hungarian locals where I live on the Florida Suncoast, in fact, they hold an annual Hungarian Festival every October. My husband and I are looking forward to this year’s especially that delicious Hungarian food.

  23. Sam Ruohonen says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Hi!

    I am from Finland. Actually it sounds like someone on the video, in Youtube, is shouting “Watch! Watch out!” or “Beware!” (translated from Finnish to English), he shouts it in Finnish: “Varo. Varokaa!” A part of it sounds a little bit like “allahu akbar!”, first. But it sounds much more like “Watch! Watch out!”, he shouted in Finnish: “Varo. Varokaa!” That would mean someone warns other people of the danger.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 5:38 pm

      Could be in this instance, Sam. But there is no doubt that Jihadists regularly scream “Allahu Akbar!” as they slaughter their victims.

      • Sam Ruohonen says

        Aug 21, 2017 at 2:44 pm

        Yes, certainly.
        Also this terrorist in Finland/Turku seems to have shouted something about Allah when he attacked:

        There was separate news: an eyewitness had heard that the attacker had yelled someting about Allah. This has been reported later.

        There is different situation “on the video” in Youtube. There are people warning about the danger.

        • Sam Ruohonen says

          Aug 21, 2017 at 2:56 pm

          From news, actually this was reported already on Friday, in the evening of the first day in Finnish time. In Finnish:

          “Hän käveli meitä kohti kädet levällään ja huusi Allahia. Luulin aluksi, että hänellä saattaa olla pommi, mutta sitten huomasi että hänen toisessa kädessään oli verinen puukko.”

          “He walked towards us with his hands wide open and he yelled for Allah. I thought first that he may have a bomb, but then I noticed he had a bloody knife in his other hand.”

  24. Mockingjay says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Probably another Charlottesville copycat ey.

  25. brane pilot says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Anyone who has studied European history knows that it is a history of periodic and frequent mass killings of Europeans in things called ‘wars’.
    Europe is way overdue for another episode of mass killing of Europeans by their own hands.
    Way overdue.
    Politically, Europeans have managed to make wars between European countries difficult.
    So Europe is importing its Executioners this time around.
    This is entirely self inflicted, that is why it is unstoppable.
    It is like telling a mentally ill teenage girl to stop cutting herself with razor blades.
    She can’t.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 5:40 pm

      brane pilot has claimed many times here that the problem is the West, and no violent Muslims.

  26. Slavonian says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    So what’s the Arabic word for god? Obviously, it cannot be Allah since they proclaim that there is no other god than Allah.

    • Historian says

      Aug 18, 2017 at 4:20 pm

      “ilaha,” hence the Islamic confession “la ilaha illa Allah” no god but Allah (la=no ilah= deity, god illa=except)

  27. Daniel says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    The leaders of all Nations who have allowed the intentional invasion of their Nation and people need to be held accountable for this and all other violence cause by those who have invaded their respective Nation.
    The invasion of western nations has not happened by chance…it was planned and financed by elites and the U.N.

    Here is a article from 2006. If you do some research you will fine others.

    Best to all and your loved ones.
    Daniel https://www.knowingforyourself.com
    Your money has no value there.

  28. Lydia says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    At least for now they admit it is terror on the news, only because they have to.

    But all to often I have heard the usual news coverage of the cry of ‘allah akbar’ followed by bloodshed, followed by the usual “uh… we don’t know yet what has inspired this attack, what is behind it, what the motive was, who is behind this, why this happened…” and you are left thinking; “are these news casters intentionally stupid?!” Denial… denial…. denial. That’s all it ever is.

  29. gravenimage says

    Aug 18, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    Finland: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” go on stabbing spree, woman and baby among victims
    …………………….

    *Horrifying*–the poor victims. But this is mainstream Islam.

  30. David M says

    Aug 19, 2017 at 12:40 am

    How very sad, the poor lady was wheeling her 1 year old child in the pram, & got stabbed in the back for no other reason than the fact she was a non Muslim. Angela Merkel wants to bring more of these savages into Europe. The truly sad fact is that Germans are going to re-elect her, & allow her to do it.

  31. BC says

    Aug 19, 2017 at 4:38 am

    Please RS try for accuracy in copying reports. One Muslim carried out the attack not ‘Muslims’ plural as your headline states.
    Nothing is gained by sensationalism

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 5:44 pm

      Don’t worry about violent Jihad–after all, Jihad Watch may have added an “s” to a headline in error…

  32. Jm says

    Aug 19, 2017 at 7:05 am

    I have not seen any reference in other reports to this attack being carried out by Muslims or that he was a jihadist, even by witnesses reporting on incident …They report only that they believe the attacker acted alone and that he was from Morocco. What is the source for your information?

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 5:48 pm

      Morocco is 98.7% Muslim. Pretending that it might be a member of the tiny remnant of Jews or Christians remaining there carrying out stabbing Jihad against the Infidels in Finland strains credulity.

    • J_not_a says

      Aug 20, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      Wiki states Morrocco is 98.7% muslim. Nationmaster.com same 98,7%
      Indexmundi.com 99.0% muslim, I could list many more. I think you knowthe attacker was a muslim. Stop being so g-damn disingenuous. You know muzzies are doing this all overvEurope. Imbecile.

  33. Sam Ruohonen says

    Aug 21, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    I write following to here also:

    Also this terrorist in Finland/Turku seems to have shouted something about Allah when he attacked.

    There was separate news: an eyewitness had heard that the attacker had yelled someting about Allah.

    There is different situation “on the video” in Youtube. There are people warning about the danger. The terrorist is not shouting there.

    From the mentioned news, actually following was reported already on Friday, in the evening of the first day in Finnish time. In Finnish:

    “Hän käveli meitä kohti kädet levällään ja huusi Allahia. Luulin aluksi, että hänellä saattaa olla pommi, mutta sitten huomasi että hänen toisessa kädessään oli verinen puukko.”

    Translated to English:

    “He walked towards us with his hands wide open and he yelled for Allah. I thought first that he may have a bomb, but then I noticed he had a bloody knife in his other hand.”

    Only some whouts about Allah has been reported, but we do not yet know was it exactly Allahu Akbar. Probably something close to it in every case.

    Of course, day later it was confirmed that the attack was an terrorist attack. And now four other persons are wanted to be arrested. They have probably been involved in the attack in some way.

    • Sam Ruohonen says

      Aug 21, 2017 at 3:46 pm

      An other news report:

      In Finnish:
      “Sillä oli pitkä veitsi ja se huuteli allah akbaria ja joku valkopaitainen mies yritti muistaakseni hyökätä sitä päin.”

      Translated,
      Arya Rashidi (an other eyewitness, possibly an immigrant (?),)
      had told:

      “He had a long knife and he yelled for allah akbar, and I think a man with a white skirt tried to attack against him.”

      Link to the news, from Saturday:
      http://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000005333053.html

      So, according to this news report, “allahu akbar” had been yelled for, by the attacker.

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