“I rule out a terrorist motive.”
All right. We know that the Islamic State has called for vehicular jihad attacks, and that there have been many such attacks in the West in the last few years, but any psychopath can also deliberately drive a car into a pizzeria, and so the police denial that this was a terror attack may be entirely true.
The only problem is that police so often deny that jihad terror attacks really are jihad terror attacks, that the possibility cannot be ruled out in this case without further details about the perpetrator.
“Girl killed after driver deliberately plows into French pizzeria, police say,” CBS, August 14, 2017:
SEPT-SORTS, France — An 8-year-old girl was killed and at least 13 people were injured when a driver slammed his car into the sidewalk cafe of a pizza restaurant in a small town east of Paris, authorities said Monday.
The driver was immediately arrested in what was the latest of several attacks in France and elsewhere using a vehicle as a weapon. The local prosecutor said the man’s actions in the dinnertime attack in the town of Sept-Sorts were clearly deliberate, but not terrorism-related.
The girl and her brother were among restaurant patrons eating on the outdoor terrace of Pizzeria Cesena when a man in a BMW accelerated toward them, an official with the national gendarme service told The Associated Press. Some officials said the girl was 13, while the prosecutor said she was 12.
The girl died immediately, and her brother’s injuries were considered life-threatening, according to a gendarme official, who was not authorized to be quoted by name.
Deputy regional prosecutor Eric de Valroger said a 3-year-old boy was flown by helicopter to France’s premier children’s hospital in Paris and 12 other people were also hospitalized, four in serious condition.
Speaking to reporters near the attack site, de Valroger said he had opened a homicide investigation. At this stage, he said, “I rule out a terrorist motive.”
He called it “highly probable” that the driver was under the influence of drugs and that he left the road and deliberately aimed his car at restaurant-goers. De Valroger identified the attacker as a 31-year-old from the nearby town of La Ferte-sous-Jouarre.
The suspect is believed to have tried to kill himself last week, French Interior Ministry Pierre-Henry Brandet said on BFM television. Brandet said the man was not known to intelligence or police.
Explosives experts combed the area and found no weapon other than the car itself, according to the prosecutor….
The incident on a quiet August night on the eve of a national holiday reignited fears after multiple attacks in which a vehicle was the weapon of choice. An Algerian man drove his car into a group of French soldiers last week, leaving six wounded. A truck attack in the French city of Nice left 86 people dead a little more than a year ago….
billybob says
“He called it “highly probable” that the driver was under the influence of drugs and that he left the road and deliberately aimed his car at restaurant-goers. ”
I understand that because I feel that way whenever I use drugs too. Like, if I just take an Aspirin sometime I get this sudden urge to plow my car into people. We all feel that way sometimes. /sarc off
gravenimage says
Spot on, Billybob. This is ludicrous.
Robert says
Right. I know the feeling. After taking vitamins, the urge to drop nukes is overwhelming.
Plus, people deliberately steering their car into crowded restaurants has been a constant occurrence in Western societies since the advent of the automobile.
And let’s not forget the incidents of people slitting the throats of random strangers that’s plagued our North American society, since the Mayflower reached our shores.
These things have been happening all the time. No biggie.
The myth of the peaceful, orderly, low-crime rate nation is just that — a myth.
bob kelly says
I don t see the name of the driver, and I ve looked at many European news papers, another media cover over
Minutes1234 says
It is not terrorism related.
Nor is a lie a lie an untruth an untruth or an excuse an excuse.
However, who defines what is truth in the face of facts.
somehistory says
“trying to kill himself. And of course, moslums never “try to kill” themselves in an effort to murder dozens for their demon master.
It helps no one to deny that it is terrorism. Whether or not he was trying to kill himself, he deliberately killed a little girl and deliberately tried to kill at least a dozen others.
Overman says
There starting early for the Hajj and Eid Al-Adha at the end of this month and beginning of September.
Those who can’t attend Hajj in Saudi will be making up for it in other ways.
WPM says
He was under the influence of the most dangerous mind bending, violence inducing drug that is found in increasing numbers all over the world Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
ElderlyZionist says
I see that the story doesn’t give the driver’s name, although he was no minor. Do you suppose he was named Christian St. Pierre? Or perhaps Muhammad Mahmud Mohammed? We are left to wonder.
Custos Custodum says
My guess is something like Fabrice or Jean-Marie.
QUOTE: Explosives experts combed the area and found no weapon other than the car itself, according to the prosecutor…
Perfectly normal to call in the bomb squad after a car crash. Nothing to see here, move along.
Ammianus says
Deputy regional prosecutor Eric de Valroger said a 3-year-old boy was flown by helicopter to France’s premier children’s hospital in Paris and 12 other people were also hospitalized, four in serious condition.
Speaking to reporters near the attack site, de Valroger said he had opened a homicide investigation. At this stage, he said, “I rule out a terrorist motive.”
Would it not be in the best interest of French people who oppose the Islamization of their country to dig deeper into stories such as this? Surely there are members of the police who oppose what their political leadership impose upon them. I know France is tightly controlled, but couldn’t they smuggle out the truth to a forum that is able to publish it? Just a thought in case there are any National Front members reading this site.
overman says
“French media reported that the arrested man told police he wanted to kill himself and claimed to have several weapons in his vehicle”
So, this guy wants to kill himself by driving through a restaurant full of ppl – what were all the weapons for? Why didn’t he kill himself with one of those?. Non-muslim suicides don’t resort to Jihad tactics in my experience. This is the new fake-news apology – ‘Suicide’ ‘Drugs’ and of course ‘Mental lllness’.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is absurd. Of course, a suicidal person might unintentionally harm others if they–say–drove off an overpass. But no one ploughs into a restaurant if they simply want to kill themselves.
mortimer says
It’s a surprise not that this VEHICULAR JIHAD occurred in Sept-Sorts’ pizzeria, but that SO FEW vehicular jihads have occurred in France with a large and angry jihadist cohort.
The French police have no rest from hunting jihadists…there are so many of them in France!
gravenimage says
I think they are just getting started…
Manual Paleologos says
What is the perp’s name and background. That will give us a pretty good idea of his motives. The longer they conceal his identity, the more it looks like terrorism.
overman says
l’m curious. How do you kill yourself by plowing a BMW through a crowd of people [one of the strongest built cars on the market]. Wouldn’t a wall or a tree do the job better?
overman says
So, we’re getting double-speak now:
“A French Interior Ministry spokesman said terror has not been ruled out, though early indications were that it was not.
Pierre-Henry Brandet told BFM TV: “I cannot tell you that terrorism has been discounted, but it is not the leading line of inquiry at this point. The first indications don’t point towards terrorism.”
Mr Brandet said four people were in a state of “absolute emergency”.
According to RTL radio, the man told police he had wanted to kill himself and had weapons in the car, although it later emerged that he was unarmed.
A source at the prosecutor’s office in nearby Meaux told Le Parisien newspaper that the suspect was a young man with suicidal tendencies.
They said: “He tried to kill himself yesterday and decided to try again like this today.”
Local reports also suggest the attacker may have been under the influence of drugs, but this has not been confirmed.”
lebel says
The driver’s name is David P.; a known depressive alcoholic. Nothing about weapons or any links to terrorism when searching his flat
Source: http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2017/08/15/01016-20170815ARTFIG00090-voiture-belier-a-sept-sorts-le-conducteur-etait-depressif-et-connu-pour-alcoolemie.php
for jwatchers, this simply means that he’s of course a Muslim just like President Obama
ElderlyZionist says
Thanks for clearing that up, lebel. Of course we all agree that Barry Sotero was at one time a practicing Muslim, and proved as President to be a treacherous enabler of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic State, whatever his religious practice may now be. “We’ve got your back.”, my hairy kike ass.
somehistory says
He had a weapon…a big one, weighing a couple of tons, at least. At with it, he murdered a child, at least one, perhaps the others he attempted to murder with his heavy weapon will survive.
Depressed people commit suicide…sometimes. Depressed people don’t go about murdering the children of strangers as this murderer did. He is a terrorist.
J_not_a says
He could have been a recent convert to islam. Recent converts don’t always change their names to islamic names right away, or sometimes not at all.
How can the authorities be so quick to claim with such certainty and claim so emphatically that this was not terrorism? How can they have all the facts and background on this person in a mere few hours? Are they expert psychiatrists with degrees and can make such a diagnosis of depression without even knowing or speaking to this man? Amazing, isn’t that these cops can make snap diagnoses on the spot just like that!
A car used as a weapon and more weapons found in the car. Hmm, where have we seen and heard of that before? I believe we have and that would be the method of choice by many a muslim to commit islamic jihad terror attacks on innocent infidels! But dare to even bring up the possibility it might be a muslim to blame, be prepared to be roundly excoriated as a stinkin’ “islamophobe”!
overman says
Yes J_not_a, it’s not the name, it’s the belief-system this guy holds at the moment, that matters.
l still can’t understand how he could have killed himself by running down ppl in a restaurant. Unless it’s suicide by cop Jihad [being killed by cops].
J_not_a says
French cops don’t have it in them to shoot to kill those muzzie beasts. I just find it very odd that an infidel would use a distinctly jihadist method of trying to commit “suicide”.
overman says
Yeah. Apparently it’s not suicide now lol
ln the article below he claims he did it to get arrested, because he’d be safer in prison.
gravenimage says
Also true, J_not_a. Few converts to Islam get their names formally changed in an Infidel court of law.
overman says
Here’s the details in daily mail and his picture.
David Patterson, 32, faces life in prison after killing a 12-year-old girl, and leaving 13 other people severely injured
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793344/Driver-rammed-Paris-pizza-restaurant-named.html
utis says
Just more cultural enrichment from the Religion o’ Peace.