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Hugh Fitzgerald: Qasim Rashid and Harris Zafar, Or, Why Bother?

Aug 4, 2017 2:04 pm By Hugh Fitzgerald

A recent letter to the editor of The Oregonian — just one of many similar letters being sent out by energetic Ahmadis — makes the predictable claims, denies any justification for terrorism in the “Holy Qur’an,” calls “true Islam” a “religion of peace,” and suggests that the best way to prevent “so-called” Muslims from terrorism is to have “a strong Muslim identity.” Since these letters are all over the place, let’s — for the nth time — take a look at this one. One has to keep sweeping back the tide, a thankless but necessary task, if only to escape from drowning. Here’s the letter, in all its fatuousness:

In the weekly “Meet a Muslim” events held by the Portland chapter of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community (AMC), we show that there is no justification for terrorism found in the Holy Quran. Still we are asked, “Why then do these so-called Muslims commit such acts and how can you prevent it?” The answer to prevention is a strong Muslim identity. It is important to know how to practice true Islam, a religion of peace, as it was practiced by the Holy Prophet of Islam (Peace and Blessings be Upon Him). In the coming weekend of July 28-30, the AMC in the United Kingdom will hold its 51st Annual Convention. This convention is an opportunity for Ahmadi Muslims and guests from all across the world to convene in one location in the pursuit of spiritual advancement, learning, and global peace. The Khalifa of AMC, His Holiness Mirza Masroor Ahmad, will be present at this convention and has stated on countless occasions, “Those who shed the blood of the innocent, have nothing to do with Islam.” The AMC has been holding such annual conventions worldwide, including here in the United States, where the AMC recently held their 69th convention. It is my hope and prayer that more people will come to see Islam in its true light – “Love for All, Hatred for None” as is the AMC’s slogan-and not that of terrorists, who cast Islam in the utmost disgraceful manner.

The first thing to note is that the writer is an Ahmadiyya Muslim. That means he is a follower of a 19th-century Muslim, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who declared himself to be the last prophet. Ahmadis are regarded by mainstream Muslims as not being Muslims at all. They are forbidden, in Pakistan, where many of the world’s Ahmadis live, from identifying themselves as Muslims — it’s in an amendment to the Pakistani Constitution. They cannot call their places of worship “mosques.” They are forbidden to use the greeting “Salaam Aleikum.” They must not behave in such a way as to convince others that they are real Muslims. They are subject to harassment and persecution for their belief that Muhammad was not the final prophet. Ahmadis have been attacked all over the Muslim world, and have been murdered, too, in Indonesia and Pakistan, and even in the U.K., for their beliefs.

A handful of headlines tell the tale:

Glasgow murder of Asad Shah spurred by sectarianism in Pakistan

Mullahs Killing Ahmadiya Muslims INDONESIA

US-based Ahmadi doctor shot dead in Punjab

‘Kill Ahmadis’ Leaflet Found in UK Mosque

Two Ahmadi Children Burned Alive by ‘Blasphemy’ Mob

U.K. Muslim Brotherhood Group: ‘We Won’t Kill Them, But Ahmadis Aren’t Muslims’

Yet Ahmadis have been energetic defenders of Islam — the same mainstream Islam that regards Ahmadis with contempt and horror, and whose members persecute them. Ahmadis have chosen not to defend themselves, but to defend Islam, misrepresenting its texts and teachings, and have attacked those who criticize Islam, such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, the very people who have opposed the Ahmadis’ persecutors, mainstream Muslims, and have shown how that persecution arises naturally from the texts and teachings of Islam.

Ahmadis  have shilled for their own Muslim enemies, conducting campaigns of the Meet-Your-Muslim-Neighbor sort among unwary Infidels, to whom they claim Islam is “peaceful” and that real Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism — so apparently there’s a whole lot of misunderstanding going around among more than 1.5 billion Muslims. And a whole lot of masochism going around among the — don’t call them Muslims! — Ahmadis.

Two of the most active Defenders of the Faith — the very faith whose adherents harass, persecute, and murder them — in the U.S. are Qasim Rashid and Harris Zafar. In an article in Salon in 2014, Rashid claimed that Islam stands for free speech and secular governance. As to the first, perhaps he has forgotten the massacre of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists in Paris, the Muslim death threats to Molly Norris which led to her having to change her identity right here in the U.S., the protests in Pakistan, Iran, and elsewhere across the Muslim world against those murdered French cartoonists, the execution of Theo van Gogh along an Amsterdam canal for daring to expose and mock Muslim misogyny, the repeated attempts to murder the Swedish artist Lars Vilks for daring to draw Muhammad, the fatwa from Tehran calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie for “blasphemy,” the murder of Farag Foda in Cairo for “blasphemy,” the death sentence for Asia Bibi in Pakistan for “blasphemy,” and hundreds of other examples of the war on free speech from all over the Muslim world, each example more horrible than the next. And then there are those in the West who are brave enough to publicly criticize Islam and who are then subject to credible death threats and, as a consequence, need security wherever they go — Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Ibn Warraq being the best known — which makes their task more difficult and expensive. Even in those Muslim states that do not have laws against blasphemy, as Bangladesh, Muslim vigilantes enforce without fear of punishment their own unofficial blasphemy laws. The ghastly evidence of all those threatened, and of all those murdered, gives the lie to the notion, that the Ahmadi Qasim Rashid wants you to believe, that Islam favors free speech.

What about Rashid’s claim that Islam champions secular governance? Does he know of a single Muslim state, anywhere in the world, that could be considered as having secular governance? Of 57 Muslim states, the only one that is, or rather was, secular, is Turkey, under Ataturk and his successors. But Erdogan’s re-islamizing of Turkey means that even that state cannot be considered secular in the way that Westerners understand that word.

The Ahmadis, it can be said from experience, are more peaceful than mainstream Muslims. They do not promote violence. They do not practice terrorism. Of all the sects in Islam, Ahmadiyya Islam is likely the least dangerous for Infidels. Why then do these Ahmadi spokesmen carry water for the other Muslims? Why do they lie about what Islam teaches? Instead of claiming that Islam is “peaceful,” why not admit that Muhammad was a warlord who engaged in 65 campaigns just in the last ten years of his life? Why not admit that the duty of Jihad — not an “internal struggle” but rather, a war that uses whatever weapons are available and effective — is incumbent on all Muslims, until such time as Islam is everywhere dominant, and Muslims rule, everywhere? Why don’t they, instead of defending — employing  taqiyya,  deliberate misreading, omission — the very texts and teachings that cause other Muslims to want to persecute or murder them, own up to what those texts and teachings say, and straightforwardly disassociate Ahmadis from them, and suggest ways that those dangerous texts be “contextualized” so that they will no longer govern Muslim behavior today? Perhaps they can offer a way out for Muslims who are not violent, but cannot quite come to the point of jettisoning Islam altogether, for that would constitute an apostasy just too frightening to contemplate. Ahmadiyya Islam might even become  a kind of “soft landing” which, in turn, we allow ourselves to believe, could lead by degrees to abandoning Islam altogether.

Let’s look again at the claims of that letter to the editor:

In the weekly “Meet a Muslim” events held by the Portland chapter of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community (AMC), we show that there is no justification for terrorism found in the Holy Quran. Still we are asked, “Why then do these so-called Muslims commit such acts and how can you prevent it?” The answer to prevention is a strong Muslim identity. It is important to know how to practice true Islam, a religion of peace, as it was practiced by the Holy Prophet of Islam (Peace and Blessings be Upon Him).

“There is no justification for terrorism in the Holy Quran.” What then do these verses mean?:

“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” 8.60

“Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!” 8.12

How do Ahmadis deal with these verses? Do they just ignore them? Do they claim something like “Well, there are these verses, I’m not denying it, but quite obviously they are not taken literally but only figuratively. I mean, if out of 1.5 billion believers, only a few tens of thousands have been involved in terrorism — gosh,  doesn’t that speak for itself?” For those eager to be inveigled, that might be enough. For those Infidels who have actually come to learn something about Islam, that might be, now in a negative sense, more than enough.

Then there is this business of “true Islam” — “as it was practiced by the Holy Prophet of Islam” — being a “religion of peace.”

Here someone in the audience need only offer to read out a handful of Qur’anic verses, and also, one hopes, have prepared those verses printed out, ready to be distributed to those of his fellow Infidels who might be willing to open their minds in a direction that their Ahmadi hosts are unprepared for. Everyone will have his own favorites among the 109 jihad verses of the Qur’an. Here are four — you can choose from a great many more —  that should make a deep impression:

“Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even if they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” 9:29

“When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” 9:5

“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191

“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4

What can the Meet-A-Muslim Ahmadis say about these verses? That they applied to some situation 1400 years ago and have no relevance today? That “smite their necks” does not really mean “smite their necks”? “Kill, capture, besiege” — my goodness, why take these things so literally? There’s no other way, pathetic as it is, of trying to explain away this stuff. And the mixture as before just won’t do. Those Ahmadis better hope there is no one in the audience who’s locked and loaded, with the only weapon he needs — the Qur’an.

Do the Ahmadis, explaining Islam to the unwary Infidels who came to one of their “Meet A Muslim” event, discuss any of those verses I’ve just presented above? 9:5, 9:29, 8:12, 47:4, 2:191, 8:60? Did anyone in the audience ask “what about 8:12? What about 8:60? When those verses talk of striking terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, isn’t that exactly what Muslim terrorists today say they are doing, and what all Muslims, who read their Qur’an and follow its strictures, are taught to support?” What can be said in reply?

What is it with the Ahmadis? Do they think that if they defend Islam — meretriciously, of course, for there is really no other way to defend it — that they will obtain the gratitude of  Muslims, or at least lessen the hatred many  Muslims hold for them? Why don’t they instead explain exactly why they are persecuted, and how they differ from mainstream Islam, and why they are more peaceful than other Muslims, instead of making the absurd claim that Islam is a “peaceful religion” when all the evidence suggests otherwise?

Eventually these Ahmadi meetings are going to be attended by those ready, willing, and able to cross-question the taqiyya artists, to quote aptly from the Qur’an, and to ask, with deliberate sweetness and light and gee-whizzness, “What does this verse mean?” “And this?” “And this?”

There are about 15 million Ahmadis in the world, and 1.5 billion Muslims. That means only 1% of the world’s Muslims are Ahmadis. They are persecuted, even murdered, not by Infidels, but by the Muslims whom they meretriciously defend. Why don’t they stop their masochism, stop defending, with ever increasing implausibility, the texts of Islam — or rather, the Qur’anic text (the Hadith are even more difficult to defend), start telling the truth about Islam, and explain how, as Ahmadis, they hope to persuade other Muslims to “contextualize” the Jihad-verses, end the practice of “abrogation,” and work to fashion an Islam with adherents capable of real, not fake, coexistence? No can do? One of those six impossible things you have to believe before breakfast?

Sometimes, you know, it really happens: “Know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”  It’s worth a shot. Even for the Ahmadis.

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  1. Wellington says

    Aug 4, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Fine devastation by Hugh Fitzgerald of the Ahmadiyyas, each of whom is missing a few toys in the attic. Ironically, the Ahmadiyyas are by far the safest where Islam is not predominant. Wonder if this ever dawns on any them. Probably not.

  2. lebel says

    Aug 4, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    What about Rashid’s claim that Islam champions secular governance? Does he know of a single Muslim state, anywhere in the world, that could be considered as having secular governance?

    Kazakhstan? Kyrgyzstan? Bosnia?

  3. Fair views TH says

    Aug 4, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    This Spanish man laughs his head off about Islam : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbzwVn0cUBM&t=25s

  4. Guy Forester says

    Aug 4, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    I was wondering how the AMC can still defend their co-religionists. Especially when they are treated so badly in their own countries.

    Regarding secular Islamic societies: Iraq, Syria, and Egypt went through this Arab Pan Nationalism phase. Despite this, any predominately muslim country had special provisions in the “constitution” giving special privileges and protections to islam that was not given to others.

    Thanks for the great write up.

  5. HugoHackenbush says

    Aug 4, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    Once one had read all of the Islamic foundational materials (Koran, Hadith, Sira) it is obvious that the Ahmadis are hypocrites and apostates from Islam AS WRITTEN and are therefore legitimately marked for death by those who simply practice the ideology AS WRITTEN. Mohammad stated at the end of his life (paraphrasing): “Allah’s religion is now complete” and therefore any changes or ignoring of verses (stratified according to order of revelation according to the principle of abrogation) is blasphemy and apostasy.

    • HugoHackenbush says

      Aug 4, 2017 at 9:27 pm

      Forgot to add the following: TRUE Islam follows the shoe while the BLASPHEMOUS, APOSTATE AND HYPOCRITICAL Ahmadis follow the gourd.

  6. Dave says

    Aug 5, 2017 at 12:17 am

    The word translated as ‘persecution’ here in verse 2:191 is ‘fitna’
    The mufasireen have said that in this verse fitna means kufr or disbelief in Islam rather than any of its other meanings

    So what this verse really means to say is ‘disbelief is worse than slaughter’

  7. Suebe Hatz says

    Aug 5, 2017 at 5:56 am

    NOT TRUE They are lying in wait just as the Quran says They will kill them if they ever get control over this country. They lie lie lie and it is in the Quran to fool the infidels. They will not publicly say how their book hates homosexuality, except I don’t understand what the difference is when they diddle little boys.

  8. BC says

    Aug 5, 2017 at 6:09 am

    There is a blatant contradiction here. When one quotes the sayings of Mohammad, they say ‘oh that is not
    meant to be taken literally’, yet that is supposed to be what Mohammad did and said. Then they say
    “true Islam” — “as it was practiced by the Holy Prophet of Islam” — being a “religion of peace.”
    If the words of Mohammad are not to be taken literally, they are saying he did one thing and instructed his followers to do something quite different.

  9. Dacritic says

    Aug 5, 2017 at 6:31 am

    I’m afraid if any Muslim tries to “contextualise” Quranic violence, the truth becomes even scarier. They are afraid to face it because that eventually means becoming an apostate and leaving Islam.

    Unfortunately, I suppose most Ahmadiyyas would rather be dead than wrong.

    You know, Hugh, you quoted the Nazarene. He was right. The truth is supposed to set you free. But you need to want that freedom.

  10. simpleton1 says

    Aug 5, 2017 at 6:54 am

    Thanks Hugh Fitzgerald.
    Why the Ahmadiyya muslims, try to cover for all the other muslim groups?
    They claim to represent all muslims, and so seem to merge with the aspirations of all the schools of jurisprudence, regarding treatment of infidels, Jews, pagans, apostates, etc.. and then try to redeem the rest of islam.
    It appears that they do not have a problem with the actions of what the other muslims do.

    They seem to be the go to boys for the media. I seem to spot them as there is sort of a pattern, plus google helps on their name or mosque.
    They seem to become very busy in the media, churning up muddy waters to serve islam, that is to submit to Allah as per Mohammad’s directions, which truly consider the power of the abrogating verses, and examples in the hadith and sirah., which are for all time.

    They are doing the work of stealth jihad, for the other muslims, buying time for them to become ensconced in the western countries.
    At the end whether they are despised by the other muslim groups, or not, they will have to be seen as collaborators as they seem to accept that the means that other muslim use in terror is ok. ! !

    At the end of the day they want all the world to be of islam.
    They are like the leftist PC, multi culture, diversity etc. and so are ok and will cover for the likes of Swedish batikhäxa ! ! !

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