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“Moderate” Malaysia: Photo of atheist get-together leads to government crackdown on ex-Muslims

Aug 8, 2017 12:59 pm By Robert Spencer

This is not “extremism.” The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”

“A Picture of Malaysian Atheists Has Led to a Government Crackdown on Ex-Muslims,” by Hemant Mehta, Patheos, August 6, 2017 (thanks to Lookmann):

Atheist Republic, an online Facebook group with more than 1.7 million followers around the world, frequently holds meetups for members in larger cities. It’s not just a chance to interact in person, though the importance of that shouldn’t be understated. They can do a lot more when they get to organize in person. The Metro Manila “Consulate,” for example, even raised money for disaster victims in the Philippines.

Last week, the Consulate of Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia got together for dinner and drinks and they took a picture of the group to celebrate the occasion.

Taking that picture may have been a mistake.

Malaysia ostensibly has freedom of religion… but the rules don’t apply to Muslims who want to leave the faith. There are rules to prohibit — or at least make it very difficult to go through — such a (de)conversation.

So back to that picture. The Malaysian government caught wind of the photo and began wondering if there were any secret Muslims in there… because they had to be punished.

The government will investigate if there are Muslims who have joined the Kuala Lumpur Atheist Club, as made viral on the social media recently, said Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Dr Asyraf Wajdi Dusuki.

…

According to Asyraf Wajdi, jurisdiction on Islamic faith is under the Syariah Criminal Enactment of each state, while at the Federal Territories level, it is under the Federal Territories Islamic Religious Department (Jawi).

“If it is proven that there are Muslims involved in atheist activities that could affect their faith, the state Islamic religious departments or Jawi could take action. I have asked for Jawi to look into this grave allegation,” he told reporters after officiating the Indera Mahkota Division Umno Youth Delegates’ Conference here today.

All this because a handful of atheists wanted to hang out together.

It doesn’t stop there either. The news coverage led to a lot of Malaysians calling for the imprisonment or death of apostates over social media….

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  1. John A. Marre says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    But don’t ever call Muslims intolerant.

  2. Guy Forester says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Name one, just one country that self-identifies as adherent to the religion that we dare not name, that actually allows freedom of religion. One, just one.

  3. PRCS says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    **The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.”

    Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence, as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence agree that apostates must be executed.”
    ———–
    Until “our” Muslims publicly and unequivocally renounce, denounce and reject any and all passages from Qur’an, Sira, and so-called authentic passages from Hadith which teach or command supremacism over, hatred of, or violence toward “unbelievers“, their protestations against violence against innocents>/i> and terrorism are simply disingenuous.

    Where on the planet–anywhere–is the amputation of a human being’s hand and foot on opposite sides morally acceptable to them?

  4. Skeptic says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    There’s no such thing as a moderate Muslim country. Check out the truth on Indonesia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVtAc-uWBw

    And here’s what it’s like being an atheist in Indonesia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msF5Ml2E0nY

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 8, 2017 at 8:04 pm

      Yes–Indonesia is not “moderate”, either.

  5. James Pierce says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Well those clearly can’t be Muslims in that picture. If they were they never would have invited that pig in the second row to their gathering.

  6. gravenimage says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    “Moderate” Malaysia: Photo of atheist get-together leads to government crackdown on ex-Muslims
    …………………….

    I wonder what will happen to these poor people?

    God, I hate Islam.

    • utis says

      Aug 8, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      Since sharia produces the worst police state possible by humans, I believe this apostate-hunt is mainly a ruse to find the identities of all these people. When Malaysia is a total sharia state, all of these kufr will be hunted down for coerced conversion or execution (probably by imprisonment in a filthy jail).
      Atheists in the West can expect social ostracism and occasional job loss. Atheists and all those who just want to practice their beliefs in peace must stand together against sharia states, or we will all perish as individual groups.

  7. Lydia says

    Aug 8, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    So we can take this to mean there is no freedom of religion (or belief) there?

  8. Fair views TH says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 6:16 am

    People tend to be atheists because the gods they have prayed never show any signs to help them when they are in distress and pains, or in danger..

  9. Mike says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    As Alex Jones said yesterday ( 08/08/ 2017) on INFOWARS,islam works on a GOOD COP, BAD COP model.

    One day , islamists commit a deadly attack . The nex day ( so called moderate ) muslims come in the media and tell us how much they are victims of sourounding islamophobia. In the next days or weeks , political authorities to apease the agressors , give them a new right . Then it is peace for a while . Then, it is time for a new attack. From one assault to th other , charia progress and islam progress.One day , it is like christian Lebanon: gone forever. Or ex Yougoslavia .Or ex….

    In islam ,women are veiled .In the West , Soros ‘s elected political authorities are veiled .

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