This is an oft-debunked claim that nevertheless is frequently repeated, because it fits the establishment media’s narrative.
“MSNBC’s Ruhle Cites Incorrect Terror Statistic [VIDEO],” by Amber Athey, Daily Caller, August 14, 2017:
MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle incorrectly claimed Monday that right-wing extremists are responsible for “three times more deaths” than Islamic extremists.
“Between 2001 and now, we have seen three times more deaths caused by right-wing extremists than Islamic terrorists,” Ruhle stated during her show.
Assuming Ruhle was referencing a widely-cited report by the Government Accountability Office, Ruhle’s statement was not only misleading, but just plain wrong.
The GAO report found that between September 12, 2001 and December 31, 2016 there were 23 fatal attacks carried out by Islamic terrorists that caused 119 deaths. In the same time period, right-wing extremists carried out 62 fatal attacks that caused 106 deaths.
Islamic terrorists were thus responsible for more deaths than right-wing extremists, not the other way around. Right-wing extremists did carry out about three times more attacks, which could be what Ruhle meant to say on her show.
If one looks closer at the timeframe of the GAO study, one will note it starts tracking terror on September 12, 2001–one day after the deadliest terror attack in United States history. If the September 11, 2001 attacks are included, the number of deaths caused by Islamic terrorists jumps up by nearly 3,000.
Therefore, if the study were started one day earlier on 9/11, the ratio of deaths caused by Islamic terrorists versus right-wing extremists becomes 3,115 to 119, an incomparable difference….
Andy says
I just watched Robert Spencer’s videos and want to thank you Mr. Spencer for standing up for the truth. I love the statement you said; “Better to die with integrity than to die as a weasel!” God Bless you Mr. Spencer! Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo-nFy7Zz8w
Richie says
sad to say the left is framing and controlling the narrative, particularly with what happened in Charlottesville. lots of condemnation for the fringe neo Nazis (and justly so) , but absolute silence of the violent leftist Communist ANTIFA and BLM groups. Watch CAIR try and jump on board to claim they are the victims of ongoing oppression .
A big difference between the left and the right- the right will denounce its fringe nutcases, whereas the left embraces and supports theirs
Shane says
The Left is allied with Islamists to destroy Western Civilization, and liberals will never admit that BLM, Antifa, and other left wing groups are violent haters. Declare Antifa a Terrorist Group: https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization
gravenimage says
MSNBC falsely claims “right-wing extremists” responsible for “three times more deaths” than jihadis
………………………
Complete claptrap.
guest says
Especially since islamic extremists *are* fascists. Hamed Abdel Samad has written a book proving it!
dumbledoresarmy says
If I recall correctly, ex-Muslim Ibn Warraq has defined Islam as an “Ur-Fascism”.
And before either Samad or Ibn Warraq, waaay back in the mid-19th century, an astute Western scholar and observer, one William Palgrave, who had travelled to the HIjaz, who had observed what he called “the great Wahabbi revival” (i.e. not a sect, not a cult, not a fringe movement, but a renewal/ revival movement within Islam), and who was thoroughly familiar with all the source texts of Islam, defined Islamic theology as “a pantheism of Force” (I came across this useful bit of information in a book by one James Freeman Clarke, entitled “Ten Great Religions”, in the chapter entitled “Mohammed and Islam”; Clarke had read Palgrave, and quotes him extensively).
gravenimage says
Very true, Guest and DDA.
John Forbes says
MORE UTTER Nonsense from the LEFT ! When did any CHRISTIAN RIGHTIST ever blow themselves up at a CONCERT ???
When did any Christian ever run down the road yelling GOD IS GREAT while stabbing people ?
The LONE NUTTER who ran over people in Charlotteville needs to go to PRISON for a very long time but he represents only HIMSELF as far as I can see & he NEEDS to be WIDELY & ROUNDLY CONDEMMED & he has been !!
ISIS & their affiliates Boko Haram & others have blown up many thousands of people & decapitated many as well & NO RIGHT WING group has done anything like this !!
More GARBAGE from the DISCREDITED LEFT !!
Wellington says
One knows or should know that the Far Right in America poses a far, far less danger to freedom than does either the Far Left or Islam. Yes, Far Right ideas are loony-tune stuff just as Far Left ideas and Islamic ideas are, but the difference is that the Far Right has been almost entirely defanged, exposed for what it is, while the Far Left and Islam keep waxing in the United States and keep getting a pass. Show me a person who says they fear the Far Right more than they do the Far Left or Islam and I will show you an ignoramus or a liar.
One other matter. It sickens me that the Confederate Flag should be shown with the Nazi Flag, as was the case in Charlottesville this past weekend. The Confederate Flag stands for three things, two of them positive and one very negative. The very negative matter that the Confederate Flag represents is racism but the two positives are Southern heritage and the eternal rebel that resides in so many representatives of the human species (no flag ever made represents this last factor better than does the Confederate Flag). By contrast, the Nazi Flag stands for NOTHING positive. So shame on all those in Charlottesville who carried a Nazi Flag or had anything invoking Nazism. This functions as a stain on the Confederate Flag, on men of honor like Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis (who I am convinced would been appalled by Adolf Hitler), and most especially is a massive insult to WWII veterans, living or dead, who fought against the tyranny which was Nazi Germany. I have no time for such idiots.
Bruce Scott says
Thank you Robert, sadly, it seems to me that Leftist News Outlets can assert any lie, without being punished. We have the same problem here in Australia, in particular with the taxpayer hugely (1Bn + Dollars per year) funded, ABC.
carol says
Oddly there’s bend-over-backward accommodating doublespeak slipping in even on right-leaning media.
Stefan Molyneux, as always, is clear-headed and a comfort to listen to midst the hysteria:
CHARLOTTESVILLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjg3joKXfqc
Andy says
ALT-LEFT AMONG US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8
Georg says
To not include the deaths of the people slaughtered on 9/11 is unbelievably offensive and downright Orwellian. Like discussing the danger of Nazism while excluding their doings in Germany.
stan lee says
The author of the MSNBC report is typically “as unreliable” as any of the other MSNBC reports which skip editing, verification of facts, journalism requirements usually necessary before exposure to the public.
Except, if a report meant for public distribution in which all negatives are to be invented by fake news people adhering to their own hate agenda are to be the sole reason for their reports. Purposely overlooked are verification, confirmation, all efforts of the traditionally honest press to keep faith with honest reporting. The extreme MSM has created a precedent it may never live down, thus it is fair that MSNBC, NBC, CNN, and their ilk run their networks into total failure. Apart from the fact that such networks are waging an obscene war against the President from the moment of his electoral victory, and will not honestly report his activities on behalf of the nation, they, in the end, will have done a public hungering for honest news a real favor. They and their management will have buried their networks beyond revival. And, the “market forces” we hear so much about, will have ideally functioned by permanently minimizing them into obscurity.
Agha Ali Arkhan says
Some networks perhaps may be called “frag” news as well as “fake” news when discussing the President! Sooner or later the malicious news reports will drive some deranged soul to make a really bad decision.
Peter says
This is the US alone I presume where muslims make up less than 1 percent of the population. For them to even be on par with their opposite numbers is an astnoshing achievement. Amazing how stats can so easily be twisted yet we (the critics) are often accused of doing that very thing.
gravenimage says
Important point, Peter. Muslims are *many* times more likely to commit violent acts than are Infidels.
More Ham Ed says
31572 deadly documented ISLAMIC terror attacks since 9/11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
About 500 to 1 (on a ‘good’ day).
mgoldberg says
And approximately 500,000 killed and or wounded since, across the globe.
Paul Weston says
Could someone provide a link to the “right-wing” terror attacks? Is it really true? If true, were they carried out in one particular name or ideology or group? Personally, I don’t believe it for a minute.
pumbar says
Thank you for being a fellow patriot Mr Weston. Your link:
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rjmedwed/right_wing_extremist_account_for_73_of_deadly_attacks_in_us_since_2001_not_radical_islamic_terrorists
Joe says
I would like to see their lists.
I can’t think of a right wing terrorist attack. The motivation of the man in Charlottesville is mostly from the order to send in thugs to beat up the protesters. The police and National Guard were there in force, but they were ordered to stand down. Then the police funneled the demonstrators into the thug crowd to have them beaten up some more. This is hardly a “right wing” terrorist attack. It was something that the mayor and police chief were trying to get.
The Islamic terrorist attacks are usually planned in advance. The Charlottesville attack was from a victim who was beaten and beat at a free speech event. The mayor and police chief committed felonies to make that happen. It is a felony for the police to stand down in the middle of violence.
The “Planned Parenthood” shooting in Colorado Springs wasn’t “right wing” either. The guy was crazy and ruled unfit to stand trial. That is hard to do in Colorado. He thought he was going to rob a bank, and shot people at random close to the bank. When the police came, he hid in the Planned Parenthood clinic, but he didn’t shoot anyone inside the clinic.
On the other side, the 119 is very low. 50 were killed in the Florida night club attack. Then there was San Benardino, Fort Hood, and many more. The number is low because most of these attacks were probably not “terror” attacks. For example the two, San Bernadino and Fort Hood attacks were probably considered “work place violence”. Of course, this is all a lie. I can get more than 119 Islamic deaths just from the top of my head. I can’t think of a right wing terrorist attack.
If there was a right wing terrorist, what was the underlying ideology? If they claim racism, I would argue that is an attribute of the left. Look at all the racism at Evergreen and other colleges. Those are bastions of the left.
So I can think of no right wing terrorist attack, and I can’t think of a right wing ideology.
If you want to argue that some white guys think they are superior, that is not racism. How many people, from all races, are proud of their heritage? In addition, white and black are colors, and in no way can they be considered races. When I get a sun tan in the summer does my race change? The color of your skin is primarily the result of how much your ancestors were exposed to the sun. The color rapidly changes when people are moved to other areas.
So I can’t see a right wing ideology. Even the Nazis were fascists who are for large governments. While race played into their ideology it made no sense. Aryans are from Persia (more or less). In Nazi Germany, we had Germans arguing that they were from the Middle East. It was just ignorant. The Nazis had power from the Government. Race was used as an excuse to incite terror. The leftist are the guys who want large governments.
So I see know consistent right wing ideology. How could they even build a list?
Jim says
Though another problem with this kind of study is that Islamic terrorists claim credit for events as much as possible, even for things like a plane coming down which they may or may not have caused, whereas the Klan/Nazi etc crowd may commit violent acts but don’t claim responsibility.
patriotliz says
I wish Robert Spencer tabulated those attacks by date/incident and number of people killed…here’s a 25 year analysis.
https://www.thetrace.org/2017/06/right-wing-extremists-attacks-guns-bombs/
Joe says
Yeah but, some are racists and others are anarchists. Someone who doesn’t like authority is not necessarily the same as someone who doesn’t like others who are different.
It seems to me, that many different ideologies are being duct-taped into a single category that doesn’t describe anything.
rich says
The left will keep pushing this lie because the truth is too terrifying to admit.
JAMES ROBERTS says
Right wing extremists don’t hang around and claim credit, they take off and hide, radical Islamists tend to commit suicide attacks and someone claims credit later. Alexandre Bissonette, Terry Nichol, Dylan Roof all escaped to be caught later. 9/11, San Bernadino, and many others were all suicide missions,city, Islamic terrorists claim credit for plane crashes that may have occurred for other reasons. Difficult to quantify the causes under these circumstances.
mortimer says
By leaving out 9/11 and starting the study ONE DAY AFTER 9/11, the authors of the study show their intentionally FRAUDULENT methodology.
They wanted to establish the bogus ‘Islam-is-peace’ narrative through their selective study, but they merely showed their dishonest and unethical methodology.
The normative Islamic JIHAD DOCTRINE is the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM that these fraudster were trying to hide.
As more and more Western people do the reading and discover there are 164 jihad verses in the Koran, it becomes increasingly problematic for DHIMMI APOLOGISTS for Islam (who have submitted to Sharia law) to argue that Islam is peace.
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
Robert says
Once upon a time, I sympathized with the Left. Then, I disagreed with it. Next, I disputed it. Eventually, I saw it as dangerously deaf to reason and blind to facts — and, so, stopped reasoning with it.
Now I’m certain that the Left’s reason-for-being is to threaten the basic existence of our existing society and culture.
The Left intends to destroy every last shred of our civilization through its scorched earth policy of Cultural Marxism.
DogOnPorch says
I’m surprised they haven’t blamed a statue of a Rebel soldier for all the Islamic terrorism.
PKG says
This is not to in any way minimize the abhorrent actions of ‘Neo Nazi’ or any such far right groups, however, the double standards in the media reporting of this incident is once again painfully apparent:
The insistence on naming and shaming the ‘white supremacists’ (justifiably) VS the mind numbing attempts to conceal or ignore the motivating ideology behind Islamic terrorism at any cost…….
gravenimage says
Agreed, PKG.
coldwarkid says
Islamist fundamentalists are right wing.
Kevin says
Its not surprising the liars and fake news folks at MSNBC will post any kind of lie or rhetoric just to keep their pathetic PC lies going. These organizations are far worse than any KKK could ever be.
John Forbes says
The AMERICAN FAR right are like the BHNP in Britain & largely defunct ! They cannot even get people into Parliament BUT have been used as a VERY CONVENIENT excuse to do nothing about CHILD RAPING in the UK !
OFTEN QUOTED as not being able to do anything for FEAR of attracting the BNP is PATHETIC excuse but has worked for over TWO decades in the ROTHERHAM MUSLIM GROUP CHILD RAPING INDUSTRY in the UK !
WHILE this very convenient & oft used excuse has fitted the PURPOSE of NOT opening the cases it has DESTROYED both PUBLIC & INTERNATIONAL confidence in British Policing !
British police are NOW not only looked down at but listed as the GROUP to be used as examples of HOW NOT to POLICE !
They are also not BELIEVED !
308dawg says
Just more libtard lies…becoming boring…remember that liberalism is a mental illness
Lydia says
Okay, if you go by the Leftist’s math, then maybe.
Because they don’t count islamic terrorism.
They relabel it as just some lone wolf attack by some random john doe.
They don’t count the victims either, who are usually non muslim.
Then some kkk group kills 3 guys.
So according to them, it’s 3 to 0.
Then you have the issue with their IQ score.
You take their imaginary IQ score (what number they think it is; like 150 or whatever genius number they think they have). Then you take the number of victims they claimed isis has killed so far (which, according to them, is around zero or some infinitesimal amount). Then you take the 150 times the zero and you get their actual IQ score.
Alert: Basic math skills are necessary to solve this mathematical problem!
A leftist may need assistance with this.
: D
Peter says
Logically, this could only be true if jihadis are included in the category of right-wing extremists (or, left-wing extremists). The rabid dogs of Islam have killed more people than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined.
Kelvin Goad says
The fact this show is still in operation shows how stupid people have become. If not for Christ I would have no hope.
SB says
Two words: prove it!
Crystal says
How many are caused by left-wing attacks, that is, by anyone who is a leftist? That question was left out of their survey, apparently. Hmm…