“On the passengers code of conduct section of their website Saudia asks that travellers are not ‘clothed in a manner that would cause discomfort or offence to other passengers. Women exposing legs or arms, or wearing too thin or too tight clothes…'”
This reflects the Islamic assumption that it is a woman’s responsibility to make sure that men aren’t tempted. If they are, it is the woman’s fault. On Saudia Airlines, she must cover her arms and legs to make sure she isn’t causing men “discomfort or offence.”
“Saudia Airlines refuses to fly passengers who expose arms or legs,” by Ravneet Ahluwalia, Independent, August 9, 2017:
Saudia Airlines has issued a strict dress code for passengers and stated that it will refuse to fly people who deviate from it.
The airline is the national carrier of Saudi Arabia, a country which follows a conservative interpretation of Sunni Islam, Wahhabism.
On the passengers code of conduct section of their website Saudia asks that travellers are not “clothed in a manner that would cause discomfort or offence to other passengers. Women exposing legs or arms, or wearing too thin or too tight clothes and men wearing shorts exposing legs.”
The airline already has rules for its customers which adhere to the laws of the Kingdom. Saudia flights are an alcohol free zone as it is illegal to import or consume alcohol in Saudia Arabia….
manat bint allaha says
don’t fly saudia, it’s that simple.
Lucia Bartoli says
Amen!
JACK W WARNER says
iN ORDER TO BELIEVE THE FAITH OF ISLAM IT HAVE TO BE A GREAT LACK OF BRAIN CELLS. BUT WE ALL KNOWS EDUCATION IN MUSLIMS COUNTRIES HAVE THE LOWEST STANDARD IN THE WORLD AND 90% OF THE EDUCATION BEEN CONDUCTED TO LEARN QURAN AND THE CRIMINAL WAY TOO TREAT EVERYONE WITH ANOTHER FAITH.
WHY NOT STOP EVERY MUSLIM TO ENTER A CHRISTIAN OR ANY OTHER RELIGION COUNTRY,
NO REASON FOR A MUSLIM TO EMIGRATE TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY WITH ANOTHER LIFESTYLE AND RELIGION. THE ALL SOURCE PROBLEM IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER……
Paul Rhodes says
Poverty and Jihad bil Hijra force them to migrate Jack. Saudi / all GCC countries are wealthy but the majority of Muslim countries that I worked in (Egypt / Maghreb.Levant. Pakistan. Bangladesh etc) millions live in poverty. Also devout Muslims must convert the world to “the one true faith” and migration is one of many tools to achieve that.
elee says
Can they do this and still be allowed to fly in the U.S.?
Lucia Bartoli says
When on the aircraft of another sovereign nation it is like being IN that nation. The country to which that aircraft is flying can prohibit that airline from flying to the host country (Kind of like being on a ship)
Guest says
I’ve read that women throw off their niqabs and hot overcoat draperies the moment these planes take off. So what will they do to them now: throw them off the plane?
miriamrove says
Any non muslim flying Saudi airline is f…idiot to begin with. m
Anti-jihad says
That’s what I was thinking. (What woman in her right mind would want to fly on a Saudi plane?)
miriamrove says
You be surprised how many PC A…holes women are out there. m
Guest says
Usually wives of men working in Saudi Arabia, I understand. More to do with money than PC.
Shmooviyet says
Agreed.
In a normal world other passengers wouldn’t be ‘offended’ by the sight of arms and legs. But 1.6 billion can’t be wrong..
The air quality alone must be delightful.
Robeaver says
What about the uncovered body parts blown up by suicide b ombers? They are forbidden as well. Darn, there goes my plan for shipping them BACK to SA.
Along with 911 plane parts and flying lesson papers.
Westman says
Islam, the religion of super-sexed men with no self-control? Why doesn’t Saudi Arabia announce it to the entire world? er.. I guess they did.
Didn’t one of their prophets, Jesus, say something like, “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”, and, “If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.”
So Isa says it is the man’s own responsibility to contain and control his lust, NOT women’s. The Saudi way appears to be pluck the woman and throw her away.
This claim of Jesus (Isa) as a prophet of Islam is so much BS. They ignore Jesus and worship Muhammad, unable to mention him without also invoking title and praise. That’s worship.
R Russell says
Their prophet Jesus, Isa, is a different Jesus from the one who said the things you have quoted – bearing in mind the second statement is a figure of speech.
If you have 2 friends with the same name you differentiate between them because of their character etc,thus we can clearly see these 2 people by the name, ‘Jesus’ (Isa) are different persons. The Christian Jesus has a different name in Arabic from Isa.
Westman says
Amusing. However Muhammad, or, the Muslim scholars that made him up, fully intended it to mean the Christian Jesus. The Arab-Christians would use the name Yasu. There is no question that “Muhammad” insinuated Jesus into Islam without asking and anything in the Quran about Jesus is a fraud or distorted. The most outrageous claim of Islam is the destruction of the Jews by Jesus.
gravenimage says
R Russell, you are right, The Muslim “Jesus”–the “prophet Isa”–has *nothing* to do with the Jesus of the Gospels.
gravenimage says
As for the Biblical quote, Westman, Muslims believe that Jews and Christians “corrupted” their scriptures, so that anything good and decent in the Bible is false.
Benedict says
“I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.” (NIV, 1 Timothy 2:9-10)
“Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful.” (NIV, 1 Peter 3:2-5) —
The dress code promoted here by Paul and Peter is not enforced – and can’t be enforced – by political means, but how different and better the world would be if women all over the world would heed this apostolic admonition.
Guest says
There are two meanings of ‘modesty’ when it comes to women’s appearance. In this case, it seems to mean ‘don’t show off your wealth’, not ‘cover yourself up because women are responsible for rape’.
Westman says
That’s the way is see it as well. There is no reference to exposed skin in either of these references, but rather a call for women to find their value in virtue and frugal living. Didn’t the NT say that to the pure all things are pure?(titus 1:15).
For me, the beauty of a woman lies between her ears where it cannot be seen yet, through communication, it can be experienced. That kind of respect and love lives on, undiminished, as time marches forward.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Guest.
Salome says
I’ve got no problem with women dressing modestly in the sense of how much flesh they show, and I rather wish they would do so in places like the workplace, as they DO cause unnecessary distractions. That said, my idea of modesty allows for the exposure arms, legs, hair and faces.
gravenimage says
And I’m sure you don’t advocate raping women who don’t dress modestly…
762x51FMJ says
Saudi Airlines is the antithesis of United Airlines.
Because they do not fly the friendly skies.
pennant8 says
After 9/11 the first thing we should have done was revoke Saudi airlines landing rights in US airports. Might sound silly, but it would have been more effective than invading Afghanistan. Most of the hijackers were Saudi’s, Osama Bin Laden himself was a Saudi. None were Afghans.
Voytek Gagalka says
Because men who use Saudi Airlines are so crazy about sex that even a hint (what they see or imagine to see) could derail them completely and cause unstoppable “temptation.” Always remember that Islam is a “religion of people with mental problem,” so it is.
StacyGirl says
They’d be on a 10 hour flight, see an ankle and go berserk. Next they’d have to have emergency sex, probably with a child. Ser how much sense this policy makes? Otherwise it’s pandemonium.
Mockingjay says
– Why can’t women just stop harassing men with their female bodies?
It would make the world such a better place if they just quit doing that.
But nooo – they just have to go and spoil it for everyone.
Nasty, nasty women.
Guess Muhammad was correct in stating that most of those condemned to hell are women.
Wellington says
In the final analysis, this is so Islamic. Specifically, that it is the duty of women to contain men’s lust and if they don’t it is the woman’s fault. Ah yes, Allah forbids a show of female arms or legs. And so I say to Allah, “screw you.” Ditto for the Islamic faith for which I have zero respect.
After all, per the Koran, in Sura 4:34, it is incumbent on the woman to cover herself and if she doesn’t and a man can’t contain himself, then it’s her fault. Guess this is part of the reason why a woman has to produce at least four male witnesses in the Islamic world in order to prove a charge of rape (more absurd than this legal requirement would be a deuce difficult one to find). Rather, too, why in an Islamic court of law, it takes two women to equal one man’s testimony. Gee, wonder how many American women know all this?
All this Islam rot is so sick. Sick too is the continued exculpation of Islam by those in the West, especially so-called feminists, who will exculpate Islam, even exculpate that sexual predator, Bill Clinton, but will give no quarter to a man like Donald Trump who “merely” talked about how many good looking women will let you do anything with them if you’re powerful and rich enough. Oh yeah, who could doubt that Trump, respecting whom NO evidence exists that he ever raped a woman but respecting Bill Clinton the evidence is all over the place that he forced himself upon one woman after another, including Juanita Broadrrick, whom BC raped twice in 1978 while Attorney General of Arkansas, is the real culprit here?
As I said, sick world. A stupid one too. Steeped in hypocrisy as well. No doubt.
Time for a beer, which Islam, given the chance, would also disallow, as it would Beethoven’s symphonies or MIchelangelo’s sculptures and paintings. Indeed, the warped founder of Islam, Mohammed, thought music wicked (haram) and depictions of the deity and other celestial figures verboten (also haram).
Meanwhile, many people in the West who enjoy the freedoms pioneered only by the West, including women’s rights, think the main problem in our time lies with the West. For confirmation of this, just go to most any college campus in America and listen to the rot spewing forth from leftist college professors, so many of whom are well educated fools.
Oh yeah, sick world. Very stupid world too. Islam, you know, ALWAYS profits from sickness and stupidity. It’s profiting now. In any case, if you care about liberty, don’t fly Saudi Airlines———–ever.
Westman says
Well said. Might Q 24:31 and 33:59 be a better reference about putting Muslimas in the cul de sac?
Wellington says
Suras 24:31 and 33:59, as with 4:34, all have the same motive, as I know, Westman, you know only too well, and that is that good women cover themselves and bad women don’t.
My God, anyone voluntarily a Muslim is a fool but a woman who is voluntarily a Muslim is extra foolish. Ditto for any black, considering Islam’s horrid and still unrepentant role in black slavery. Of course, a black woman who is voluntarily a Muslim is a real “winner” here.
Hope you’re doing well. Wish Islam wasn’t but non-Muslim fools aplenty keep breathing new life into this wretched belief system. Minus these pathetic dhimmis Islam would be on its way to an inexorable death. Instructive how Islam’s survival from its inception depends a great deal on the feeding off of others, whether due to conquest or, as is so much the case today, sheer stupidity by non-Muslims.
Take care, pal. Islam delenda est.
Westman says
Delenda est Islam, indeed.
We’re doing well, Wellington; thanks. I hope your health and zest for life remains despite watching the demise of freedom, worldwide. Even after serving in the military, until seeing the effects of Islam limiting the potential of humanity, and the capitulation of Europe, I didn’t have a full appreciation for the freedom I’ve always experienced here.
Sharia est inferni super terram.
gravenimage says
Saudia Airlines refuses to fly female passengers who expose arms or legs
……………………………
Fly the unfriendly skies…
Jayell says
About 3 years ago I flew with Qatar airline. Only halal food on board and every 10 or 15 minutes we were told where Mecca was. NEVER AGAIN! And when I arrived at Doha airport (their hub) there were male and female mosques all over but no ‘multi faith’ prayer room (as nearly all international airports would normally have the decency to provide). It seems like some of us on the planet just aren’t cut out for common courtesy and respect. Now why might that be?
dan christensen says
Same procedure as in Rome’s st.Peters Basilica, I’m sorry to report.
gravenimage says
Witless false moral equivalence. Catholics do not demand that women dress in Burqas in order to travel.
PKG says
Who would want to fly SA airlines or any other ME airline for that matter?
I sure as hell will not play a part in funding the terrorists…..
BTW- great posts Westman and Wellington!
Expat88 says
I lived in Riyadh for many years and I flew Saudi Arabian Airlines many times and yes women had to be covered up and of course no alcohol was allowed to be served or carried on the airline. But the ironic thing was to see men who were on that airline flying to Jeddah on the way to perform Hajj or Umrah and they would change into a white towel with a lot of their body exposed. It was actually very immodest. So they didn’t care if women had to look at Men’s bodies but the opposite was Haram.
James Stamulis says
And the silence from the women rights groups is deafening.
Lorensacho says
I wonder if Saudia would allow women with hair under their arms to fly in coach?
Tom says
Simple solution, boycott Saudi Airlines. Don’t give them your custom in the rest of the world where they fly.
There are a multitude of options in the airline industry to get to your destination so just don’t purchase a ticket from Saudi Airlines if you feel strongly about their rules and restrictions.
RationalVoice says
The Saudis have got life back to front again ! The law should be that no women should be allowed on planes unless they EXPOSE large areas of flesh.How else can they join the 8 mile high club,!!!
Seriously though this crazy religion Islam causes instability and death everywhere it touches.
I bet the Sheiks bring a few of their favorite concubines on their private jets when they go visiting the fleshpots of the Infidel West.
What hypocrites religiously brainwashed people are !!!
Savvy Kafir says
No non-Muslim should ever fly Saudia Airlines again.
While we’re at it, let’s stop buying oil from the Saudis. Let’s de-fund those medieval Islamists, totally & permanently. Let’s develop alternative energy, like hydrogen fuel cell technology, so we never have to buy their oil again.
Let’s stop selling them weapons. Let’s stop allowing them to invest in the U.S. & Europe. Let’s not allow them to buy our politicians anymore. Let’s isolate them & impoverish them, and make them a non-issue.
All of these things are so obvious. Why are they not being done already? What does it take to get some actual leaders in the free world, who know what the f**k is going on, and what’s important?
Susette says
I love to travel but would never visit a muslim-majority country or fly on a middle eastern airline. Their despicable treatment of women as second class citizens is an affront to humanity. Typically, I don’t care what people where while flying. Comfort in cramped spaces is necessary.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind mandatory cover-up of all tattoos on the airlines. Not because I lust after tattooed men or women, but because I am confined while flying, and thereby forced to endure these visual assaults. When will people understand that having major body tattoos is like being forced to don a burka…you have to wear the same damn thing everyday!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Gosh, how can the owners, and management, of an
airline company push that company into bankruptcy?
They’re not exactly ”Mensa”, are they?