How marvelously broad-minded! Pope Francis would be thrilled! But once again we see that this kind of gesture of good will is all one-way. When is the Islamic festival featuring Christian liturgical chant? Why, the very idea would be absurd, of course.
“Christian worshippers at Greenbelt can learn Islamic worship chants,” Christian Today, August 7, 2017:
Christian worshippers at this year’s Greenbelt Festival will have the opportunity to learn Islamic worship chants – thanks to an organisation which says its primary aim is to ‘guide seekers of Allah’.
The Ansari Qadiri Rifai Tariqa – which describes itself as ‘an international non-profit spiritual organization… in service to the Divine’ – will be teaching ‘basic universal Sufi chants’ which it says ‘are rhythmic, healing and a unique form of worship’ according to the Greenbelt website. Festival-goers are invited to ‘come, enter in, learn and participate’. The invitation continues: ‘Here is healing’.
The Ansari UK website says its mission is to promote Sufism which is ‘founded on the Holy Quran, the Holy Scriptures and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad and other Prophets (peace be upon them)’. And on the Greenbelt website the organisation says its ‘primary mission’ is ‘to be available to guide seekers of Allah’.
Other Muslim contributors are also featuring at the festival. One is Ahmad Ikhlas, a British born Jamaican convert to Islam, who according to the Greenbelt website ‘has used his heritage and love for the Prophet (pbuh) to generate an expressive unique style of music and poetry’.
Another is Abdalhamid Evans, a British Muslim convert, who will be participating in a discussion entitled ‘Scriptural Reasoning Remixed’ which is described as a ‘a fun and thoughtful conversation around the music and lyrics that move us as spiritual people’.
The Greenbelt website reveals it has ‘received funding from Amal’ – a project aimed at promoting a diversity of Islamic cultures and arts – ‘to produce a brand new venue and programme at Greenbelt this summer, showcasing Muslim art, culture, thought and spirituality’.
Explaining the vision for the new initiative, Greenbelt’s Creative Director, Paul Northup, told Christian Today: ‘Being able to introduce this new venue and programme feeds into Greenbelt’s commitment to help build better religious literacy, and is a continuation of Greenbelt’s programming about the Muslim faith at previous festivals. We want to play our part in dismantling the extremist stereotyping and narrative the Muslim faith and community have laboured under, and to provide a space of welcome and conversation.
He added: ‘In a world that can even entertain the idea of a Muslim travel ban – freedom of movement being curtailed based on religious identity – and where identity politics more generally seem to trump all, it’s important for us to make room to bring people of different faiths and understandings together and to respectfully allow them to demonstrate how they worship.
‘It is because we are Christian that we do this. Not because we want to dilute or deny our faith. It’s because we want to be true to our faith and to continue to live and express it dynamically, creatively and generously. In a world which seems ever-more divided, then we want to build bridges not barriers.’
Writing on the Greenbelt website, Northup stresses the festival’s Christian basis: ‘While we have the chance to experience more deeply and richly what artistry, thinking and spirituality flourishes within a progressive Islamic cultural context… we will also have the chance to remember … our own Christian heritage and worldview; and Greenbelt’s role as a distinctively Christian festival with a distinctively integrated view of life, faith and culture.’…
Richard Paulsen says
It is terrible. How foolish. Because they are traitors they do like that. Not because they are Christians.
Andy says
Problems with Muslim Communities in Britain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbqqyBTIuOg
Andy says
Islamic Mark of the Beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iku8YzLFPpE&list=PLllY5CxFaPWX6Q4nZUMLzuKqxCobmOJBh&index=2
mgoldberg says
I remember reading an article from 2007 or so, Alyssa Lappen I think, on th 12th century Sufi ‘master’ Al-Ghazzali (died 1111) who was recognized as an orthodox muslim by all scholars of Islam.
In his Waqiiz, about 1101AD, Al-Ghazali advised on vanquished non-Muslim dhimmi peoples:
…one must go on jihad (i.e., razzias or raids) at least once a year…one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them…If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book – i.e. Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked….One may cut down their trees…One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide…they may steal as much food as they need…
…the dhimmi [may never] mention Allah or His Apostle…Jews, Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [non-Muslim poll tax]….[O]n offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the protuberant bone beneath his ear [lower jaw]… They are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells…[T]heir houses may not be higher than the Muslim’s, no matter how low…. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle is … wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. [Dhimmis must] wear [an identifying] patch, even women, and even in the [public] baths…[Dhimmis] must hold their tongue…. 2
Al Ghazali viewed non-Muslim dhimmis as a typical Muslim theologian and jurist in the Abbasid-Baghdad Caliphate—who incited tangible dhimmi persecution, as Baghdad’s Obadyah the Proselyte, observed in about 1100 A.D.:
…al-Muqtadi [the Baghdad Caliph, 1075-1094], had given power to his vizier, Abu Shuja… [who required] each male Jew should wear a yellow badge on his headgear…and …a piece of lead…hanging round the neck …inscribed with the word dhimmi to signify [they] had to pay poll-tax. Jews also had to wear girdles round their wastes. Abu Shuja further imposed two signs on Jewish women. They had to wear a black and a red shoe, and …a small brass bell on her neck or shoe… [to] announce the separation of Jewish from Gentile [Muslim] women. He assigned cruel Muslim men to spy upon Jewish women, …to oppress them with… curses, humiliation, and spite. The Gentile population [mocked] all the Jews, and the mob and their children …beat up the Jews in…Baghdad…When a Jew died, who had not [fully] paid up the poll-tax [jizya] …the Gentiles did not permit burial until [it] was paid. If [he] left nothing…, the Gentiles demanded that other Jews should…meet [his] debt…in poll-tax; otherwise they …would burn the body.3
The much lauded Al-Ghazali, in short, was equally radical as countless classical and contemporary Muslim theologians, who like Yusuf al-Qaradawi justifies jihad terror and “incidental” murders of non-combatants, plus religiously decreed non-Muslim inferiority.”
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And so we might email this group and relate the bigotry of classical Islam ala the Sufi’s too.. though of course that won’t really matter, but it should be brought to their attention as their brethren are being murdererd in muslim lands and not merely oppressed for which there will be no mea culpas from these
sufi’s nor any other muslims
Richard Paulsen says
And Al-Ghazali is regarded as a moderate sufi. My God.
mgoldberg says
In my youth I read jala al-din-rumi, the great persian sufi poet of ‘love’ and mysticism.
I thought, ‘Gee, he’s into mysticism and love so maybe islam isn’t so bad.’ Then read his comments about how he supported Mohammed completely ( something to that effect), and it was that creepy endless feeling that today we all get, whenever you look for the bottom of the Islamic pit, and it’s way way way down there.
gravenimage says
Yes–more clueless whitewashing of evil. Few of these Muslims were “moderates” where it counts.
Al-Ghazali’s sobriquet is “the destroyer of philosophy” due to his rejection of reason and compassion.
somehistory says
They call themselves Christian, but their actions here belie the claim.
They may as well go whole-hog, buy a little piece of dirty carpet and call themselves moslum. Because they are feeding at the trough with demons they themselves invited..
WorkingClassPost says
Fools.
I can almost see the multifaith jamboree they are working towards, with happy smiley brethren all joined together, chanting and praying as one.
The head-choppers will have a field day.
underbed cat says
WorkingClassPost, I agree, this is a preparation. The chants if they are in arabic, sound beautiful, spiritual but many participants would be shocked at what is being stated. Of course at this site we know all this, how to get the message out to the Christians is much harder.
WorkingClassPost says
You’re right UBC.
If they call themselves Christian, yet the teachings of Jesus aren’t enough, it’s difficult to see what we could say that might help them.
John S. Obeda says
I think that the Christians above are sinning against what the apostle Paul says: “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God.” (2 Cor. 6:11-16a)
A Lee says
Multifaith? Unless they’re including Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh and Wiccan chants, it’s not exactly multifaith. Sounds more like Islamist indoctrination.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely and those other religions you mentioned, are content to live and let live,
not wanting to lord over others.
demuslim says
Islam is killing all infidels, then some Christians come out and defend Islam. This is insane !
blitz2b says
This is true, these idiots know nothing of their own scriptures and what it teaches, and they go out to promote the most evil of all ideologies…
Greenbelt’s Creative Director, Paul Northup, told Christian Today:
“…It’s because we want to be true to our faith and to continue to live and express it dynamically, creatively and generously….”
Mr. North up, please delve into the scriptures and see if your ” creativeness” is in accordance with God’s word before you fling the doors wide open for Muslims.
There is a real danger here that your flock will follow after the wolf in sheep clothing…
2 Corinthians 6:15-16
“…15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[a]? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God….”
Shame on Mr. North up for trying tho dilute God’s pure word with the satanic teachings ohs Islam…. Shame
R Russell says
Until our churches teach Biblical doctrine with Christian apologetics our young will neither know what they believe or why they believe it. May YHWH God have mercy on our souls.
Bob says
Oh, but Biblical doctrine and Christian apologetics’re so BORING! The average Christian congregation couldn’t/wouldn’t take it. I know – I’ve tried it.
R Russell says
If they are taught like university lectures they could possibly be boring. However if they are taught devotionally then the wonder and gratitude of who YHWH God is and what He has done for us will cause a continuing filling with the Holy Spirit which is unsurpassed.
Dwayne Austin says
The website looks more like a modern-day hippie fest.
http://www.greenbelt.org.uk/
A Lee says
It looks much worse than that. That lineup is creepy. I saw more about Sufism than I did about Christianity. I’d rather take my chances with a 2017 Woodstock, mud and all. Apparently, UK “Christian festivals” are quite different from Christian festivals in America. But then again, I haven’t attended any of the above.
gravenimage says
You are right, A Lee–this about Islamic worship is not just a one-off “interfaith” slip up–about a fifth of the line-up appears to be Muslim.
These are not just foolish Christians–this is full-on “Christlam”. *Ugh*.
They feature, among others, the appalling “Baroness” Warsi, who is constantly enabling Jihad and Shari’ah; and the disgusting Bilal Zafar, who pokes fun at those concerned about Jihad terror. His only concern is “Islamophobia”.
Going by this, there is only one thing they consider evil–fighting back against aggression–their example is Britain defending herself during WWI.
I believe the message is that we are supposed to roll over for Islam now.
Walter Sieruk says
First, this outrageous Islamic evil is part of the insidious infulence of Islam. Second , this sly creeping of Islam into that Christian festival shows that the Christian pastors aren’t living up to their calling by watching out for false worship forms of false religions, as in this case Islam.
Therefore , it always needs to be remembered that the way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” [N.K.J.V.] In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15. Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14;6.
Voytek Gagalka says
Multiculturalism at work and at full supersonic speed. At no time those “Christians” will learn shahada (in Arabic no less, and with blessing of the first available imam) and effectively will become Muslims at no time, completely effortlessly and without pain. Yay, Kumbaya! Those refusing to learn about nature and sneaky methods of their enemies will pay the heavy price for this self-inflicted intellectual laziness and stupidity.
A Lee says
These days, “multiculturalism” is code for Islamism.
Walter Sieruk says
What an awful affront those Islamic “worshiip” chants must be to the God of the Bible. Shame on the Christian pastor for being to weak or unaware as to allowing this demonic influence of Islam to intrude on an event that is supposed to to be Christian. Thereofre the following should be restated .
First, In the Bible it gives the account of the Prophet Elijah declared “If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal be ,then follow him.” First Kings 18:21.[N.K.J.V.] In other words follow one of the other. Not both.
Second, many people say that the God of the Bible and the god of Islam are one the same. Is the majority always right? That’s not always the case. As an example the Christian pastor and scholar, Michael Youssef, who is also an Arab in his book entitled JESUS, JIHAD AND PEACE on page 69 informs the reader that “The name Allah comes from pre-Islamic times, and it corresponds to the Babylonian mane Bel or Baal. According to the Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped gods they called Allah. Both pre-Islamic Allah-worship and Baal –worship involved worship of the sun, the moon and the stars, which is why they are called astral religions. The crescent moon, the symbol of pagan moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam. It is printed on flags of many Islamic countries and placed atop minarets and mosques.” Likewise, a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, who used to live in the Middle East but now he lives in America . In his book ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD. On pages 7,8. Reads “Allah is the generic term for God in many Middle –Eastern cultures. Allah is identified as one of the 360 or so idols worshiped by the Arabian people for centuries before Muhammad was born. Many do not know that Allah was the good god of the Arabians. This explains the crescent moon found on minarets and mosques and the flags of Muslim nations. .. .Historic writings also identify Allah with Baal.” It’s also worth mentioning that the Bible condemns such astral religions. As in, for example, Second Kings 23:5.
Therefore, now in modern times, it may be rightly said “If Yahweh Lord of the Bible , be the one True God follow Him. Yet if Allah the lord of Islam be the one true god then follow him.” The case is very clear cut.
There is the Christian site http://www.answering-islam.org
Jen says
“Shame on the Christian pastor for being to weak or unaware as to allowing this demonic influence of Islam to intrude on an event that is supposed to to be Christian. Thereofre the following should be restated .”
Yes so true but both the Pope and the Archbishop have given Islam a free pass. Many Christians don’t read their bibles or even go to church and are clueless. So in today’s widespread absence of common sense and when your church leaders support islam, well the church will follow. Sigh….so depressing.
All will be held accountable on the Judgement Day
Walter Sieruk says
What awful and incompetent “Christian” pastors of that Christian festival event must be for not being on guard against the infulence of false religion which is reflected in those Islamic chants .This Islamic subverting and corruption of somethingthe is supposed to be Christian is demonic .
Thus the following essay should reiterated .
The God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God. This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “ Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.
The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett and ANSWERING JIHAD by Mabeel Qureshi
Karen says
The festival is “distinctively Christian” yet it’s viewpoint is “distinctively integrated”? Uh……ok, that means nothing. It can’t actually be both Christian and inclusive of the practices of other religions in a significant way, since it would then cease to be “distinctively Christian”. It sounds like Paul Northrup is trying to have his cake, and eat it too. How much more useful it would be to have discussions about how to show love and acceptance to Muslims without being asked to validate Islam.
jewdog says
Western ethics relies on the Golden Rule with its implied reciprocity, but reciprocity only works with equals, not supremacists. Chant all you like, but don’t expect tea and sympathy in return.
Tom says
Bloody Foolish Idiots !!!
Strong Aingel says
The People who form congregations know least about their congregation, the reason they are part of [it]. Christians don’t appear to have a clue what Faith means these days; nor do muh for the most part. In the case of the former, this has led to the collapse of the church; whereas in the latter it has produced another generation of political activists and violent zealots. Were people to understand the current muh rising, is merely the result of a politically inspired plan, one Scholars and Imam resort to every one hundred year in line with doctrine, then the response of those being invaded, forced into reappraising their very Soul Position, as the event described herein is forcing, would be completely different. One thing I have learnt from attending Marches and so forth, is that the true Christians in England have nothing to do with either muh, or Church congregations.
gravenimage says
Strong Aingel wrote:
Christians don’t appear to have a clue what Faith means these days; nor do muh for the most part. In the case of the former, this has led to the collapse of the church; whereas in the latter it has produced another generation of political activists and violent zealots…
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Your implication that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam is *entirely false*. Violent Jihad has been an intrinsic part of Islam ever since the “Prophet”.
Do you not know this–or just hope that we don’t?
Frank Anderson says
Am I mistaken that Joseph Goebbels made use of the Great Lie theory: Tell a BIG lie; Keep telling it; Beat it into people’s minds; Sooner or later most will take the lie for the truth? Not sure whether he originated the thought or just “borrowed” it. Ever since the theory seems to have a life of its own with many totalitarians.
Manny says
this Greenbelt Festival is not a Catholic event. I don’t know why the author brought up the Pope. It just shows you that even Protestants have been suckered into creepying Islam. Or is that creepy Islam?
Richie says
leftists have long been on a campaign to destroy Christianity from within
gravenimage says
UK: Christian festival to feature Islamic worship chants
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Oh, goody–will they feature the ones condemning Jews and Christians?
What dhimmi fools.
mortimer says
Greenbelt Festival is now INTEGRATED! Hallelujah. They are INTEGRATED with a MISOGYNISTIC, ANTI-CHRISTIAN, GENOCIDAL, SUPREMACIST DEATH CULT.
Greenbelt Festival’s leaders are integrated with SUICIDAL IDEATION. I encourage them to look up Islam’s APARTHEID DOCTRINE called ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’… the duty of Muslims to HATE dirty kafirs for the sake of Allah.
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Christian leaders who naively ignore Islamic doctrines are blind guides.
mortimer says
Message to Northrup:
PLEASE FIND OUT WHICH ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY TEACHES THIS ‘PROGRESSIVE ISLAM’ and get back to me!
Andy says
The UK is “finished”. Europe is not “Europe” anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7-OUCV59Hc
Denise Smith says
I went there once 25 year’s back got some free ticket’s. Was young then did not know much about Christianity then. Went in one tent the Levellers were playing a far left drug taking atheist band.
Baucent says
“It is because we are Christian that we do this. Not because we want to dilute or deny our faith. ”
Well buddy, that’s exactly what you are doing. It’s called syncretism.
abad says
No real Christian would ever take part in Moslem prayers nor chants to its false deity of Allah.
Karen says
Many Christians buy into the notion that they must be unfailingly ‘nice’. They forget that Jesus drove the corrupt from the temple, while Northrup invites in a false god.
Lydia says
The modern church is in the state of apostasy. It is an infiltration for takeover. The plot is to set up the one world religion through such ‘festivals.’ The plot is working, sadly, due to the totally ignorant millenials in the church. They don’t know the basics of the gospel.
There is nothing Christian about this. It is a denial of the Christian faith. There is no way to do this as a Christian, Christianity does not mix with other religions. If you go ‘interfaith,’ or ‘multi-faith,’ you step out of Christianity, because Jesus is not going to follow you down into apostasy. There is never a justified reason for treason, which is what this is. You can’t deny your faith in Christ, even upon pain of death, etc.
There is nothing to learn. Christ is sufficient. The only bridge they are building is to apostasy and false religion. That is not what we are to do, we are not to integrate in any way, acquiesce, succumb, placate, or any other form of syncretism. (sin-cretism.) Not only that, but they operate on the lies of the apostasy leaders about ‘reaching out to others through multiculturalism’. We are to give them the gospel. That is our calling. Sure, learning languages and such in order to do so is fine, obviously I’m not talking about that. But what happens here is that instead of leading others to Christ, the other religions are making converts out of Christians to their religion. That is the result. We see it all around us all the time. We are deep in the time of the apostasy of 2 Thessalonians 2, the strong delusion. That’s what ‘doesn’t feel right,’ if you have the Holy Spirit. This is a whole epidemic brought on by the likes of rick warren and co. Sadly the truth online about all of this has been slowly disappearing also.
“So Ahab sent a message among all the sons of Israel and brought the prophets together at Mount Carmel. Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long will you hesitate between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” But the people did not answer him a word.”
1 Kings 18; 20-21
Just a heads up:
The LORD is God, not baal.
( ;
brane pilot says
If you allow Christianity to be annihilated, and replaced with something far more brutal, how is that ‘Christian’?
I do not understand the logic.
Frank Anderson says
brane, to expect reason and logic to burden, confine, restrict, limit evil is an error. They don’t care about our rules. They have only 1 rule and goal-our end and their victory. They will do anything and everything that helps achieve that goal. Frustrating ourselves with eternal searches for reason when there is none is a waste of time and a loss of opportunity to resist. Confusion and indecision are essential parts of their weapons. ALL who buy into the lies (called “fictions” by lawyers) are collaborators in the treason against civilized society. In order to have success in resistance I suggest the first step is to get off the fence of indecision and decide to win. If I am not convinced; How can I hope to convince anyone else?
Karen says
The only purpose is to destroy all traditional centers of power (government, social, religious, family, etc.) and replace them with leftist institutions. Anything that holds any power of influence is a target. If they succeed, their many tangential alliances (such as with Islam) will likely collapse as they rush to assert supreme authority over one and all. Or they will eat eachother alive in the power grab, as evidenced by all communist take overs, the Arab Spring, the French and Russian revolutions and similar events not founded in the rule of law and ‘democracy’.
Yoda Dunbar says
As a Christian, I would be bound to warn the organisers of the repercussions of this action. As if God would see this as Christ like and good for Christians, I would never attend this venue and any “true” Christian would not attend either. This is an abominable act and they should be ashamed.
All this appeasement to Muslims is another step to being overthrown,, ask the Muzzies if they would allow Christains to stand and pray to Christ at one of their gatherings, they won’t, we have seen how they react, fights, abuse abound with these animals, and this group wants to embrace this new age crap called chrislam
Christianity is dying over there by the looks of it
PKG says
Very interesting…
Reminds me of a large banner that I saw in Melbourne once stating that “Jesus loves Muslims” ….
My immediate thought was that this would only work due to the grace of Jesus and Christianity- very much a one way street!
http://www-archive.biblesociety.org.au/news/street-jesus-loves-muslims-stand
Tony says
Boycott Greenbelt,passed it’s sell by date anyway.
FYI says
Don’t they know that allah curses the Christians?
koran 9:30
As usual these devious Taqqiya merchants are cunningly promoting their falsehoods with the assistance of the( – extremely -)stupid coverts to islam{How dumb does one have to be to have difficulty differentiating between the good loving God …and allah,the anti-Christian,Anti-Semitic Commandment-violating islamic moon god of hate?}.
It seems the concept of bearing false witness as being a sin against God is entirely lost on muslims(which is not surprising since neither allah in his perfect koran nor his “prophet” mo in his perfect life had any concept whatsoever of the Ninth Commandment…..or indeed ANY OTHER Commandment of God).
islam attracts the theologically stupid,the ignorant and the lazy.They are attracted to a religious ideology that allows them to do things that are actually forbidden by those Original Commandments of God.You don’t have to believe me:compare any teaching of allah with respect to God’s Original Commandments.
These UK Christians are complete idiots.
Since allah curses both the Jews AND the Christians(k9:30)is it really likely that the True God of Moses,Elijah and Jesus Christ(..all Jewish…)..that such muslim “prayers”,especially the fatiha,would ever be acceptable to God?
Of course not.You could Pray 1000 times a day towards that Kaaba stone in mecca,a “prayer” insulting Jews:but that would be a waste of time!!
Muslims don’t understand that:or the fact that if allah teaches his followers in his koran to do things that are in direct violation of God’s Original commandments..and he does…then they are not following the True God.
Converts to islam are just not smart enough to see the folly of their mistaken path.
Who do you follow and obey-God’s Law revealed through His Commandments?
{No murder,no lying,no stealing,no adultery..}
Or
Do you follow allah who is OK with the breaking of God’s Commandments?
{allah is ok with slaying completely innocent unbelievers(=murder!),lying to deceive infidels,stealing from infidels,adultery with an enslaved woman etc}.
In fact,as long as the victims are infidels,allah’s attitude to the Original Commandments are basically “Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law”.
As for the reason we have God versus allah at all….that has to do with God’s way of separating the wheat from the chaff.You have to be given a choice and the freedom to use your free will.God or allah:which do you choose because they are NOT the same!
GOD or allah?
That’s what converts to islam don’t get:they are PROVING to the True God that they would rather follow a counterfeit path,a path at odds with His Laws.Besides,the True God does not reward those who break His Commandments.
But you note that allah does:doesn’t he promise jihadists paradise for doing …EVIL!!
That is the complete opposite to God.That is why He gave us His Commandments.
It’s funny how allah/mo/islam/muslims don’t understand that.
Pope francis,who has been praised as a defender of islam is either a false prophet or a poor shepherd to his flock.
James Stamulis says
Too many Christian churches have become wusses and that goes for America too! Time to be Christian warriors and a new crusades!
Anne Smith says
Northrup epitomises idiocy, naivety and ignorance.
John A. Marre says
I’m sick of seeing “Christians” bow down in willing submission before a religion that wants to eliminate them. Beginning with the Pope, and going down through the denominations, many “Christians” hate themselves and their religion so much that they are very happy to deny it and to give power to Islam, an ideology that explicitly proposes to eliminate them.
Rob says
These deluded “Christians” are obviously ignorant of both Christianity and Islam theology. To participate in any Islamic ritual, prayer, etc. is to deny the message of Christ and to participate in the worship of a false “god” and his murderous disciple.