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UK: Muslim former soldier calls for “killing unbelievers”

Aug 31, 2017 8:02 pm By Robert Spencer

“The first of these messages indicated that he was drunk, but the third said, ‘I decided to kill the unbelievables’, followed by a text simply stating, ‘Unbelievers’ and another saying, ‘Allahu Akbar.'”

“He said the text was ‘the polar opposite’ of his beliefs, could not explain why he sent it and apologised.”

The polar opposite of his beliefs? Why?

Qur’an 2:191-193: “And kill them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is worse than slaughter. But do not fight them by the holy mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no hatred except for evildoers.”

Qur’an 4:89: “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends and protectors from them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and kill them wherever you find them; do not take any of them as friend or helper.”

Qur’an 9:5: “Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”

“Former soldier sparks major terror alert with ‘killing unbelievers’ text,” by Sarah Bruce, Press and Journal, August 30, 2017:

A major terror alert was sparked when a former soldier and Muslim convert referred to killing “unbelievers” in a text message.

Alexander Tiffin, who had been to Saudi Arabia and Turkey earlier this year, sent disturbing text messages to a member of his mosque five days after the London Bridge attack in June.

The recipient, Shakibur Khan, discussed the tirade with other members of the committee and told the police.

But after a thorough police investigation into Tiffin’s background, computer and contacts, it was concluded that he was not a terrorist – but “an idiot”.

Yesterday at Inverness Sheriff Court, Tiffin, of Kilmuir Place, Invergordon. admitted behaving in a threatening manner on June 8.

Fiscal depute Roderick Urquhart described how Tiffin, 29, had converted to Islam less than a year ago. At about 2.45am on the day in question, Mr Khan received a series of text messages from Tiffin’s phone number.

He added: “The first of these messages indicated that he was drunk, but the third said, “I decided to kill the unbelievables”, followed by a text simply stating, “Unbelievers” and another saying, “Allahu Akbar”.

“He was alarmed by the terms of these messages. As he was at that time at the Masjid (mosque) for first prayers, he asked Tiffin to come to the Masjid to talk but received no response.

“After discussing the texts with members of the Masjid Committee and having received a message from one reporting that a red Volvo car such as Tiffin was known to drive had been seen in Inverness, Mr Khan went to Burnett Road Police Station to report his concerns.”…

He said the text was “the polar opposite” of his beliefs, could not explain why he sent it and apologised.

Mr Urquhart explained that extensive police inquiries established no links to terrorist oranisations [sic], adding: “The conclusion has been that he was an idiot, not a terrorist.”…

Defence lawyer Roger Webb said his client was in a wheelchair due to a psychiatric disorder….

Co-founder of the Inverness mosque Waheed Khan said last night: “He had a complex social, medical including mental health backgrounds and he had episodes of mood swings and highs and lows in his life….

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  1. Baucent says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    “Co-founder of the Inverness mosque Waheed Khan said last night: “He had a complex social, medical including mental health backgrounds and he had episodes of mood swings and highs and lows in his life….”

    And had been a muslim less than a year. Sounds like Islam was the last thing he needed.

    • John Forbes says

      Sep 1, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      once again joining the lunatic fringe group has proven to have overtaxed the little grey matter available & pushed this nutter further into the abyss!
      Little can be said about the NEW converts to ISLAM ,except to say many, get on the WATCH LIST almost instantly !
      A far better brain than mine can try to find out why they join this CLUB of the NUTTERS in the first place ?
      Some of the ones & have met seem very lonely & maybe this is the only RELIGIOUS CLUB now available ?
      Christianity has closed many of their clubs & they are not advocating any wars or attacks that I have heard of !
      Potentially a disturbing trend as this CLUB of NUTTERS has endless potential targets in the WEST & as lot of opportunity exists for Jihad as the so called LEADERS in the WEST are still hiding & are in total DENIAL STILL !
      Maybe when MANY MORE of their populations die & are maimed & many more Children die we will see some of the COWARDS CLUB PEEK out of the closet !
      This , BY CURRENT TRENDS< DOES SEEM SOME TIME AWAY THOUGH !!

  2. Keys says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    LOL
    “it was concluded that he was not a terrorist – but “an idiot”. ”

    On the playground we used to say “takes one to know one”.
    That may not apply, but it might.

    ***********************

    “Defense lawyer … said his client was in a wheelchair due to a psychiatric disorder….”

    When playing Little League baseball I saw a kid batting get hit in the bicep with a blazing fastball. Nobody laughed until he limped all the way down to first base holding his arm.
    May not apply, but it might.

  3. mgoldberg says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    There are quite a few mentally unbalanced people who struggle to find their way, find their stability, in this world. But the fact that so many muslims get ‘unbalanced’ and then want to annihilate ‘others’ and lots of ‘others’ who aren’t muslim might lead people to think that Islam should feel deeply ashamed at holding the world’s record for mentally unbalanced would be homicidists. And yet, they don’t feel any such remorse at being the world’s champions of hoimcidal ideation. In fact, musims and Islam feel that it is ‘Islamophobia’ and that others should be treated for feeling any such critical feelings for Islam being the world’s champion in homidical serial killing fantasies.
    No shame, and of course worse.

  4. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    ‘But after a thorough police investigation into Tiffin’s background, computer and contacts, it was concluded that he was not a terrorist – but “an idiot”.’

    —-

    According to the Ikwan, 75% of all new converts to Mohammadism leave within the first two years.

    Apparently, from this article, we can conclude that 25% of the new converts are idiots.

  5. Rob says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    If you want a true Muslim hero, read the story of Noor Khan

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2017 at 12:04 am

      She was indeed a hero–it is unclear how devout a Muslim she was.

  6. gravenimage says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    UK: Muslim former soldier calls for “killing unbelievers”
    ………………..

    When drunk, people are apt to say all sorts of embarrassing things.

    But “the polar opposite” of what they believe? What rot.

    • Westman says

      Sep 1, 2017 at 2:18 am

      Lawyer: “Yes, your honor, my client, Ahmed Bakr, beat his wife unconscious while drunk. He really feels that she is more precious than gold as Allah declared in Quran 4:34. It was the demon drink that drove his mind to the polar opposite.”

      Judge: “When Muslims drink alcohol it changes their mind?”

      Lawyer: “Yes, your honor.”

      Judge: “OK, let’s have no more drinking!”

      • PRCS says

        Sep 1, 2017 at 10:36 am

        Way funny.

        Especially liked the 4:34 twist.

  7. Lydia says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    There is no way to say something like that and not mean it.

    Anyway, he would have to kill all the muslims then, because they are the ‘unbelievers,’ and ‘infidels’.

  8. mortimer says

    Aug 31, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    Shakibur Khan presumably thought he was being set up by an undercover agent and so he turned this suspected undercover cop over to the real police. Shrewd, but self-protective.

    Alexander Tiffin, who had been to Saudi Arabia and Turkey, was obviously learning his Islam correctly from the 164 jihad verses in the Koran and from the Sira (67% jihad), hadiths (21% jihab) and Koran (24% jihad).

    The total of 31% of Islam’s primary source texts are about jihad… so how did Alexander Tiffin get the wrong idea that JIHAD was very important to a Muslim??

    31% is a big amount of the text devoted to the subject matter of jihad.

  9. manat bint allaha says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 12:30 am

    sudden jihad syndrome.

  10. R Russell says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 3:23 am

    Oh the poor poor soul. He was drunk.
    I said in a previous comment that Muslims who ae not living according to the dictates of their faith can only find one way to enter jannah. That is dying in Allah’s cause killing as many infidels as possible at the same time.
    I would wonder if his texts are just step one into his impending murder spree? After all he is a trained soldier – trained to kill.

  11. Chris Malan says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 5:11 am

    Anyone who converts to Islam does not know how to do research and apply the facts discovered logically to come to a sound decision. I.e. such a person is a moron. Only morons make decisions based on emotion.

  12. Ade says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 5:19 am

    pull all muslims out of the army ..
    don’t allow muclims to have guns ..
    don’t allow muslims to hold any position of office ..
    don’t allow muslims into politics

  13. FYI says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 6:38 am

    Choosing GOD versus allah

    Converts to God..will..
    ******************************

    Obey His Commandments without question.

    Understand the importance of the Two Chief ones as the essence of God’s Law

    Refrain from doing evil and try to avoid sin.

    Live a good moral life in harmony with others.

    Will understand that the Kingdom of God is a SPIRITUAL kingdom.

    Know that God’s mercy is always freely available to anyone(of any religion or none).

    Understand that God does not discriminate against any people:It is impossible for God(unlike allah) to be anti-Semitic.

    Religious worship and devotions are worthless to God unless His laws are first obeyed.
    (which is difficult for muslims to get since their allah doesn’t agree with God’s Commandments..)

    Inner spiritual purity of soul is far more important than externalities.

    Converts to allah..will..
    *****************************

    Feel free to break God’s Commandments {..as the koran sanctions..}

    Feel free to commit murder {despite God’s strong condemnation of it in His Sixth Commandment}

    Will mistakenly imagine that outward devotion to religion is the way to God.

    Will fail to understand that the Kingdom of God is NOT A WORLDLY KINGDOM that can be gained through violence like an islamic caliphate.

    Pretend not to know any better about moral issues(as long as allah sanctions it-it must be ok!)

    Willfully ignore the immorality of its “prophet” and the Commandment-violating teachings of the koran.

    Seriously risk being the chaff in the Justice of God.

    Cannot fool the True God especially if you are a former Jew or Christian:choosing allah is a big mistake proving that you don’t TRULY want to follow God.

    If you wish to convert to islam then at least do ONE thing first..

    Just look at God’s Original commandments.
    This is the official law of God..
    ..that neither the koran in its teachings nor the self-appointed “prophet” muhammed ever followed.

    These Commandments of God are how you will be judged:Not on how many prayers you say,how much fasting you do,how much piety you profess.

    God condemns Murder,adultery,lying,stealing.
    Yet…..allah has no problem with violations of these laws of God!

    So choose God and His Commandments or choose allah.

  14. Kablaam says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 6:59 am

    Idiotic Britain.

    Muslims have found a willing victim.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2017 at 4:21 pm

      Kriss Donald was not a willing victim–he was a 15-year-old boy.

  15. Hiding says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 7:59 am

    The more I hear about these problem people, the more I try to avoid them. The more I hear about cucked nations not defending their own western citizens, but those problem people, the more I vow not to travel to places that do not assist to keep western tourists safe. So far, all of Europe and the UK is on my personal travel advisory to avoid going there. I would advise all women, men and children of western backgrounds to do the same, for their own safety. Those governments do not care about you.

  16. Michael says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Mr Urquhart explained that extensive police inquiries established no links to terrorist oranisations [sic],

    ___________________________________

    Except of course his direct ties to global terrorist racket known as Islam.

  17. Dadcito says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 10:42 am

    Off-topic but I need some info on conditions in Mile End with respect to the no-go areas and other issues. A friend’s son is going to study at Queen Mary U and planning to live there. Would like to know what, if anything to warn him about. Specifics would be welcome.

  18. Henner720 says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 11:25 am

    Now who is racist? No but its not evident but indicative( in dna), islam leads to a certain procentage of believers wanting to kill non believers.Who will be the first anthropologist earning a ph.d on that fact. long as they don’t kill you..muslims can not easy get out of the monsters belly.

  19. Christiane says

    Sep 1, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    I wonder if the Christian parents who beat their adopted daughter to death and seriously hurt their other adopted daughter will ever understand what they did . . . . . they will spend a long time in prison thinking about it, though.

    You’ve got crazy everywhere. All kinds of crazy . . . . ‘christian’ ladies who won’t go to psychiatrists or take medication because they have ‘cured themselves’ and then proceed to be malevolent and hateful to anyone they choose.

    It’s no good, just looking at one race, or one religion, or one sex, or ‘immigrants’ or you-name-it and go all out to slam the whole group because of the bad apples in it. IT DOESN’T DO ANY GOOD.

    Cynical hate without offering some kine of solution to make things better just doesn’t make sense.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2017 at 11:51 pm

      Note that Christiane does not consider Islam’s enjoining the slaughter of unbelievers to be cynical hate–just acknowledging that this is what Islam says is. *Ugh*.

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