Of course. To have suspected that it was a working bomb would have been “Islamophobic.”
Meanwhile, “Mr Sandiford said the prosecution could not be sure if terrorism was the motive.”
Of course. How could a Muslim carrying a live bomb onto an airliner possibly have anything to do with terrorism? Only a greasy Islamophobe could possibly have such suspicions.
“Air passenger ‘attempted to smuggle working pipe bomb onto Ryanair flight from Manchester to Bergamo but was let go because police didn’t realise it was a working explosive,'” by Samantha Mordi, Mailonline, July 31, 2017 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
A man who attempted to smuggle a pipe bomb onto a plane was allowed to fly again days later because police did not realise the device was viable, a court has heard.
Nadeem Muhammad, 43, was attempting to board a flight to Bergamo, Italy, on January 30 when security officers at Manchester Airport found the device, made from batteries, tape, a marker pen and pins.
Jonathan Sandiford, prosecuting, told the trial at Manchester Crown Court Muhammad had intended to detonate the device once on board the Ryanair flight.
But the court heard when airport security swabbed the bomb there was no trace of explosive on the outside and officers did not believe it was a viable device.
Muhammad, who was born in Pakistan but had an Italian passport, was questioned by police but not arrested and on February 5 boarded another flight to Italy.
Mr Sandiford said: ‘At that stage nobody had realised this was a real device and the defendant was allowed to go on his way.’
He said it was only on February 8 when the device was examined again that suspicions were raised and the bomb squad was called.
The explosive was then sent for examination by expert Lorna Philp, who found it was a ‘crude but potentially viable improvised explosive device’.
Muhammad was arrested when he returned to the UK on February 12.
Mr Sandiford said the explosive, which experts said would have been ‘unreliable’ and ‘unpredictable’, was made up of batteries, the barrel of a marker pen, pins, and double base smokeless propellant normally found in firearms ammunition.
If wires, protruding from either end of the tube, had been connected to each other the device would have detonated….
Mr Sandiford said the prosecution could not be sure if terrorism was the motive.
He said: ‘That may be the most likely motive but equally it could be a desire to commit suicide or another purpose altogether.’…
john spielman says
it must be fun to be a criminal in the UK
Santa Voorhees says
Only if you are a muslim.
Voytek Gagalka says
And how long it will take before ANY criminal will notice that it is highly “profitable” for him at least to CLAIM to be Muslim?
Santa Voorhees says
Agree. Any criminal just needs to learn a few Quran verses then claim to be a muslim if caught after committing any crime.
John Forbes says
It is going to take a few bombs & many more dead it seems before the UK population will start to rise up !
MAYBE if an AIR LINER is blown out of the sky there may be a slight change in tactics but on current form it seems very unlikely !!
They are well cowed at present with POLICE harassing anyone who points out the issues like MUSLIM CHILD RAPISTS , HATE PREACHING while trying to ignore CHILD RAPISTS ! This CHILD RAPING INDUSTRY has grown after the Rotherham revelations not gotten smaller !
Rufolino says
You have to laugh at this. But it won’t be funny for much longer…
mortimer says
Here’s a clue for CLUELESS DETECTIVES: “ALL Muslims are jihadists or they have left Islam.”
“Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: I heard the Apostle of Allah say: When you enter into the inah transaction (become businessmen), hold the tails of oxen (become cattlemen), are pleased with agriculture (become farmers), and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.” – Sunan Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455
Conducting jihad is the ‘original religion’ of Mohammed. Mohammed is the authority on Islam.
Moreover, Allah says a Muslim who is not a jihadist has left Islam:
“It is only those who BELIEVE NOT in Allah and the Last Day and whose hearts are in doubt that ask your leave (to be exempted from jihad).” – K. 9.45
Those who joined Mohammed realized that all non-Muslims are enemies to be subjugated:
“‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'” – Ishaq: 204
Muslims who are not jihadists will go to hell.
“Unless you go forth He will punish you with a grievous penalty and put others in your place; but Him you would not harm in the least. For Allah has power over all things.” – K. 9:38-9
gravenimage says
Thanks citing that, Mortimer. It shows that Islam considers any activity save Jihad to be not just un-Islamic, but an actual rejection of Islam.
gravenimage says
That should be, “thanks for citing…”
Santa Voorhees says
‘That may be the most likely motive but equally it could be a desire to commit suicide or another purpose altogether’
Oh, yeah, right. I want to commit suicide so I plant a bomb on a plane, because hanging, falling off a bridge, guns or poisoning are too mainstream!
Ashley says
Right, Santa? That “equally it could be a desire to commit suicide” remark makes NO sense! It reads like “I want to kill myself and take a plane load of strangers with me. I want all on board to perish because I’ve reached the end of my rope.”
And as you stated, there are more “comfortable” ways to end one’s life instead of concocting a bomb. Just stick your head in an oven and fall asleep…
Brendan Cleary says
Interestingly, and sadly, that is just what a Lufthansa pilot did a couple of years ago. Killed himself and the entire crew and passengers in a plane he was flying. He didn’t, however, carry an explosive on board to do the job.
mortimer says
Italy should cancel this Pakistani man’s passport.
Gene says
No, they should deport him back to Pakistan.
Carlos Danger says
I say hang him.
moeped says
Oh that would be Barbaric. These terrorists will respond better to love, compassion, and welfare. Also education and jobs. Let’s let them all be doctors and everything will be ok.
stan lee says
Anyone who wasn’t alive and aware, during the WW2 Battle of Britain, would never believe how courageous the British people were during those precarious days. WTH happened to the Brits?
Today, they are as in a trance, totally detached from the threats that government allowed in to the country. It seems as if, as a population, they have lost the spirit which reinforced their patriotism in their darkest days against Hitler. They need to reclaim their spirit by not electing the lamest politicians in British history, which is what they now have. They, their alleged leaders, have compromised the people, but the people have seemingly “given up,” as if they have no other alternative. Their country IS worth fighting for. Never forget that!
What exists now doesn’t need to be a “life sentence.” They need to stop being so compliant to the political system that has sold them out. Being the patient and polite types will no longer suffice, they need to think “Britain First!”
Frederick says
Two things happened: first WWI & WW2 destroyed a good many of the real men in England. Second, the people of England (and a lot of the rest of the world) found they can vote themselves all sorts of benefits under ‘Democracy’ and in doing so traded their freedom for a little cash security.
gravenimage says
I would not sneer at democracy. One of the main reasons I oppose Islam is to protect our freedoms.
R Russell says
I would contend that the reason we are a different people with different values is why our country is about to capitulate to Islam.
During WW2 the UK was a Christian country. Regularly days of prayer were called and miracles took place. Many of them.
But we have turned into an arrogant people now. We say we don’t need the Judeo-Christian God and have dismissed Him from our lives either by saying He doesn’t exist of scoffing that we don’t need a crutch to lean on. For some it is just indifference.
Unfortunately such attitudes take away the foundation of our country – one built on Judeo-Christian values. Our legal system was built on the Ten Commandments – rules about how to keep society from anarchy. There were absolute values. But now, we no longer have absolute values, everything is relative with situational ethics. This is nothing new throughout the history of the world. In the Bible it is described as people doing what was right in their own eyes.
We cannot keep our Judeo-Christianity based legal system if we no longer value it and its source. It will be taken from us and be replaced with another – sharia.
We will be powerless to stop it for in giving up our Christian faith we have also given up the God who was the one who performed these many miracles during WW2 in response to days of prayer called by the king.
Our only hope is to decide we have made a huge mistake and ask the Judeo-Christian God to intervene again. We can only do that from a place of friendship with Him.
UK citizens no longer think of themselves as belonging to a collective whole. Selfishness pervades society – a selfishness which will always put self first. A selfishness which partly because there is no belief in a continuing life beyond the grave seeks to hold on to this life for it is all we have. A selfishness which will conform to whatever presents itself just so long as death is kept at bay for a little time longer.
Yes, unless our country re-discovers what benefits result from knowing the Jesus of the Bible, then a capitulation to Islam is just around the corner. Sharia will be the law of the land and death will be the result if some refuse to convert.
Enjoy your new country – it is coming closer with Dawah every day – unless you value freedom and return to the faith of our forefathers.
The Tytler Cycle has rotated full circle.
Monty says
Exactly, R Russell. We can bemoan the foolishness of the authorities and the lies and deception of Islam. I do regularly. But the real problem is why world leaders have become so blind. The apostle Paul gave us the reason about 2,000 years ago.
“He (Satan) will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”
Christianity has lost its vision and lost its impact. We are meant to be the light of the world and the salt that preserves. I’ve watched the church decline over the last 40 years. I’ve also seen Islam greatly increase in influence in the same time. There are some who are doing something about it. I hope it is not too late.
Pumbar says
Yeah, the archbish of Canterbury and all his little vicars are leading the push against islam. Our glorious PM May is a vicar’s daughter…
We don’t need deities, we need courage and tenacity (and possibly quite a few SA80s).
Robert says
I think the Brits have lost their pluck, valour, and tenacity for a few reasons, all inter-connected.
Their valour came primarily through the upbringing they received at home from their family, and which was reinforced by the training they received at school, the national attitude that was instilled through the popular culture of the day, as well as the religious education they got from the church.
They don’t get any of that stuff now. Now Brits are trained to hate their culture, their history, their traditions, and their heritage.
Anne Smith says
That is really quite unfair. The British are labouring under a repressive system of laws which have been introduced rapidly since joining the EU. The Police forces have been ;politicised and are now Police Services and not interested in enforcing the law, merely keeping the peace, to which end they shut down any form of demo unless it is by Muslims, in which case they protect the Muslims from any counter demo, by arresting the Brits who dare to challenge the Muslims.
It is impossible to get a teaching job in Universities or Colleges unless one subscribes to a hard Marxist or very left wing view. Jobs (and degrees) are withheld from those who do not promote the left wing view of the world.
The Marxist infiltration of education and news media, particularly the BBC, makes it very hard for opposing views to get a fair hearing, let alone stimulate a counter trend.
Most people shrug and get n with working to earn a living and ignore the problem because life is too short and only the unemployed, Muslim dole scroungers, trade union lefties and so on have the wherewithal to fund demos, marches, meetings etc. Everyone else has to go to work. Work, incidentally, which might be withdrawn if you are seen as “racist”, so no-one wants to step out of line.
Yes, it is very sad what has happened to Britain, but I cannot see an end to it.
R Russell says
Sharia is alive and well in the UK. Can’t be long now till there is a total takeover attempt.
Anne Smith says
Too true.
take a look at Oldham Council bowing the knee to Islam. I can hardly believe this is happening in Britain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYmoCuUIQ2o
Michael Copeland says
Oldham Council are being lied to. The imam solemnly expresses the OPPOSITE of what the Koran actually says. At 1:19 in the video he says:
“The Koran says whoever kills a body unlawfully or for creating disorder in the land it is as if he has killed the entire of mankind”.
What Koran 5:32 says – in a passage addressed to the Jews, NOT to the muslims – is:
“We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men;”
Note the “UNLESS IT BE… for mischief in the land”. This was thoughtfully omitted by the imam.
“Mischief in the land” is an everlastingly extendable category that includes drawing pictures of Mohammed, naming a teddy bear Mohammed, or criticising an Ayatollah and so on and so on.
The very next verse, 5:33 sets out the repercussions:
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned;”
In short, submit or else.
James Pierce says
“Mr Sandiford said the prosecution could not be sure if terrorism was the motive.”
Right. He probably needed that bomb for work or something.
St. Patrick says
Obviously a pipe (bomb) fitter..A real pro..Ticketed educated..Real smart..Just like the dumb as rocks complicit/complacent ~investigators~..
Robeaver says
It was a ticking lunch. Or a clock he can go to the whitehouse with. Some kid did it with obama. Fear mongering just because his lunch was in a pipe and had wires sticking out from either end, and he had a battery with him, :::::it was a warming oven for his sandwich!!!!! !
Michael Copeland says
Jonathan Sandiford, prosecuting, said the prosecution could not be sure if terrorism was the motive:
“That may be the most likely motive but equally it could be a desire to commit suicide or another purpose altogether”.
A few observations:
English lawyers receive NO TRAINING in Islamic law.
They are NOT authorities on it.
They are NOT Islamic scholars.
They proceed in their careers to become judges. Neither as prosecuting lawyers nor as judges do they have any qualification in Islamic law, or still less, any acquaintance with it.
They are well-meaning amateurs.
Their opinions are not based on knowledge.
Monty says
They are too terrified to make definitive stand. Islam has the world running scared. Good news for Christians. This is what we expect to happen just before Jesus returns. It is not unwitting ignorance, it is deliberate avoidance of the truth.
Michael Copeland says
British flight authorities are not quite up to the mark for jihad plots.
Remember the bomb disguised as a printer cartridge?
That was sent from Yemen addressed to a synagogue in USA. British airport authorities at East Midlands Airport were alerted that there was a bomb in the package. They inspected it, and passed it as all right. It was only after their informants INSISTED that they take a closer look that the bomb was found.
Dale. says
I hope that every police and security officer in england and canada has his or her wife and children killed by one of the subhuman mulies they embrace with such STUPIDITY! EVERYONE in the UK wearing a police uniform is a fraken MORON. Oh it doe not look like a REAL bomb…….no harm done ……have a nice day….enjoy your flight.
DRHazard says
Not surprising given that they also mistook a rape gang with 1400 victims as an example of multicultural enrichment and was generally ignored as not important.
MasQueNada says
I ALWAYS carry a live bomb with me when I fly and I am no terrorist. Here, let me explain.
The odds for a person with a working bomb to be on a plane are very low, maybe 1 in 100,000. The odds for not one but TWO, unrelated, people with live bombs to be on a plane at the same time are calculated by multiplying probabilities.
(1/100000) * (1/100000) = 1/0000000000 (one in ten billion)
Voila I have made everyone safer. Please give Mr. Mohamud the benefit of the doubt, thanks.
Mockingjay says
Brilliant logic, MasQueNada!
– It’s much better to have a laugh about all of this because reality is geting absurder by the day it seems.
moeped says
This story should have ended much differently and with more finality for the sicko jihadi.
Mockingjay says
So, SO many people will one day lose their lives over this kind of stupidity that, unfortunately, isn’t just limited to Great Britain’s police and prosecutors, but completely RAMPANT by now, all over the West.
– In this case, everyone was just lucky. That is the best you can say about this case.
People got lucky and nothing happened.
Unfortunately, this kind of luck will not last forever. All of this will go VERY wrong VERY soon. It is inevitable.
Stupidity can not and WILL not protect anyone.
Smarty says
Europeans seem so…..stupid? Collectivism oppressed independent thought and questioning? They are so robotic.
gravenimage says
UK Muslim who tried to smuggle bomb onto flight was let go: cops didn’t realize it was a working explosive
……………..
Why would they just let him go even if they thought the bomb was a fake? Madness…
Norger says
Exactly. If the conclusion was that his bomb could not be detonated he’s either carrying a hoax bomb or he’s an incompetent, albeit aspiring, bomb maker. How is he not a major security threat in any event? Is it cool to take a bomb onto a plane as long as you disarm it first? This is absolute madness.
gravenimage says
Exactly. This is madness either way–just even worse that it turned out to be a live bomb.
Laura says
And Mubarak Obama said that, not only does terrorism have nothing to do with Islam, it has less to do with islam than any other religion!
So, by that piece of Kafkaesque logic, this attempt to take down a plane could well be down to the Salvation Army, or the Quakers?
Baucent says
“But the court heard when airport security swabbed the bomb there was no trace of explosive on the outside and officers did not believe it was a viable device.”
This is Keystone Kops stuff. “Excuse me sir, is that bomb a working bomb?”
” No it’s just a replica”
“That’s OK then.”
steve says
England casually exports terrorism worldwide. 3 of the BESLAN murderers who killed 148 adults and 186 CHILDREN ”worshipped” at the Finsbury Park Mosque .The British ‘Government’ keeps quiet, presume they are busy counting their Saudi Arabian bribe cash.
Anne Smith says
Airport security is a joke. The people employed to do it are in the main unable to get jobs elsewhere and are the uneducated lower orders who can be hired at cheaper rates.
They have a stock answer to any queries and appear happiest to search minutely and inconvenience all those who are least likely to blow up a plane, i.e. the more obviously wealthy and Christian white people, whilst waving through the headscarved and burka brigade. Perhaps it is their way of having a laugh at those who seem to have fared better in the incomes department than they have.
At Luton we watched – incredulously – while we were all de-belted, de-shod, de-coated, and shuffled through the metal detector, then searched by hand, while a bunch of Muslims in headscarves and Pakistan style clothing were waved through. When my husband asked why this was done we could not get a sensible reply.
We shall all be safer when the authorities show a bit of sense and start to implement the Israeli’s system of passenger profiling. This will probably never be done in Britain because, oh the horror of it – it might be deemed “racist”.
gravenimage says
Yes–disgusting.
Norger says
What you witnessed was “security theater;” UK airport security proving how tolerant, inclusive and anti-Islamophobic they are, by making a show of searching obvious non-threats.
FYI says
[sigh}
The Britanistani police,we have seen,usually have tremendous difficulty understanding the Motivation part of that standard Detective paradigm of Method(or means)-Opportunity-Motivation.
It seems now they have difficulty with the Method(or means) part as well.
any reasonable person could deduce this…
Method………. Bomb
Opportunity…on a plane flight with lots of innocent civilians
Motivation……terrorism ..Most likely islamic fundamentalism inspired by koranic commands to “slay the unbeliever wherever you find them” k2:191…and of course one of those places to find infidels is on board planes…
The Britanistani police however appear to be completely stumped on this one..
Method/Means…?
Opportunity…..?
Motivation..????????????????
“Well, Constable Ahmed,It can’t have anything to do with islam because islam is the religion of peace..isn’t it?..so we can rule out islamic fundamentalism….maybe..could it have been the far right?”
Mockingjay says
Well noted, RCH!
Kiki says
Even if it wasn’t a “viable” device–but it turned out to be–anyone carrying a bomb-like object onto a plane shouldn’t be released to fly days later. Even a non-viable device could be a “test run” and would imply worse was planned.
Security needs to be taken a lot more seriously. The UK was extremely lucky that the perpetrator didn’t have another bomb to carry when he went on that second flight. Otherwise….
gravenimage says
Exactly, Kiki.
UNCLE VLADDI says
… and here I had hoped we’d heard the last of “CLOCKMED” and his jihadi family antics LOL!
😉