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UK police warn man to stop criticizing Islam on Facebook

Aug 9, 2017 8:42 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

A man in Britain was visited by police and told to take down his material that was critical to Islam from Facebook. He states:

The officers themselves were polite and reasonable enough, however their message was somewhat chilling: it was insinuated that if I continued to post material which could be considered critical of Islam or offensive to the practices of Muslims, I could potentially be arrested for ‘hate crimes.’

Equally chilling was that I have no idea how they obtained my personal information and they weren’t willing to disclose this information during their visit.

These police officers should be swiftly reprimanded, but it much more likely that they will be backed up by their superiors. They are acting like Sharia police. All religions should be allowed to be criticized, scrutinized, and even mocked in a democracy. British authorities have apparently forgotten that. Until they wake up and recover respect for the freedom of speech, they are aiding and abetting the destruction of Western civilization.

The UK has overwhelming problems with Muslim rape gangs, hate-preachers who incite jihad attacks, and Sharia courts that send women back to their husbands to be abused and sometimes killed. Yet this is what the police are doing.

So while this Brit was paid a polite but clearly threatening visit by the police for his critical Facebook postings about Islam, in June it was reported that “Google refused to remove vile YouTube rants” by Muslim hate preachers Ahmad Musa Jibril and Abu Haleema “who inspired the London Bridge killers.” These men “told followers to make ‘enemies’ out of all kuffar [non-believers]” and “instructed their Islamist viewers not to grieve victims of terror attacks.” Their jihadist teachings were also found on Facebook and Twitter.

These hate preachers and their ilk should be promptly rounded up and deported, or otherwise jailed.

Increasingly, we hear shocking news about Muslim preachers instructing their coreligionists to commit the worst crimes against innocent “unbelievers,” but there is rarely any followup news. Unfortunately it is those who report on the deeds of jihadists who are deemed to be the troublemakers, and falsely accused of hate.

The more we are intimated by jihadists and Western authorities continue to aid and abet them, the further we sink. The UK is now effectively ruled by Sharia norms; criticism of Islam is forbidden.

“Rees-Mogg fan ‘warned by police’ for posting content that is critical of Islam”, by Jonathan Curtis, Your Brexit, August 7, 2017:

The owner of a Facebook page praising the Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has told their followers that they have been visited by two police officers who provided ‘advice’ that included a warning to stop posting content that is ‘critical of Islam.’

According to an update on the page called The Church Of Mogg, the page itself was frozen by Facebook for two weeks, and the owner was advised that they could face arrest for ‘hate crimes’ if any further content of that nature is posted in the future.

Perhaps one of the most worrying parts of the Facebook post is that they say they have no idea how the local police obtained his details without some sort of court order or similar legal action.

At the time of writing, this question remains unsolved.

The post states:

As you will all now all be aware, I was visited last week by two local police officers who wished to provide ‘words of advice’ regarding supposed Islamophobic content posted onto this page, which was itself locked and suspended for a fortnight.

The officers themselves were polite and reasonable enough, however their message was somewhat chilling: it was insinuated that if I continued to post material which could be considered critical of Islam or offensive to the practices of Muslims, I could potentially be arrested for ‘hate crimes.’

Equally chilling was that I have no idea how they obtained my personal information and they weren’t willing to disclose this information during their visit.

On the advice of some patrons of this page I have this morning submitted a formal complaint to the IPCC and also made written enquiries to the Police and Crime Commissioner to try and get answers.

I will of course keep you all updated with the progress of these enquiries.

Thank you all for your kind words, messages and patronage. It has been very helpful…..

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  1. Mike says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:01 am

    It is at moments like these when I like to play the Soviet Anthem.

    • Paul Walsh says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 5:26 am

      lol, love it.

    • Larry says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 6:41 am

      To be sure, freedom of speech is a North American (USA) ideal. It is not given much weight in many parts of the World and no weight at all in other places. In point of fact, I remember a Canadian judge, in response to a question from an American journalist about free speech in Canada: “Free speech is an American concept, I give it no weight what so ever.”

  2. Monty says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:11 am

    I’m English by birth. I’ve lived in Australia for over 50 years. If it wasn’t such a hassle, I’d relinquish my UK citizenship. We now have a tougher language test if you wish to apply for citizenship. I’d fail. I don’t speak Arabic (kidding – for now). It is still remotely possible that I could be deported back to the UK, if I managed to fall foul of the law. I dread the thought. The England I left in 1964 no longer exists. I owe my late parents a debt of gratitude for getting me out of there before the rot set in.

    • Bob says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 1:02 am

      Do us all a favour and relinquish your UK citizenship. Your attitude stinks. Clearly you have no idea what the UK is today. I thank your parents too.

      • Don Foss says

        Aug 10, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        The UK today? Sharia, absolute truth=hate speech, rape epidemic with “Asian” perpetrators, foolish and blind tools like you all over the place, and the list goes on. Back on your knees, Pussy.

      • Paul says

        Aug 10, 2017 at 3:34 pm

        Have to agree with you Bob.. i’m still in the UK and a white British born citizen but see every word you say is true.. speak the truth and get thrown in prison, run on a plane with a pipe bomb and get let off.. it’s fuckin madness in the extreme.. UK citizens more to the right wing won’t put up with it much longer i’m sure then that civil war will break out where we’ll be actually safer than we are now.. nuff said xXx

        • Paul says

          Aug 10, 2017 at 3:35 pm

          “Don” sorry.. in my haste to reply i got your name wrong.. apologies xXx

  3. Mark Swan says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:21 am

    Christine Douglass-Williams wrote.

    “The UK has overwhelming problems with Muslim rape gangs, hate-preachers who incite jihad attacks, and Sharia courts that send women back to their husbands to be abused and sometimes killed. Yet this is what the police are doing.”

    Yes it is, and because everyone is so willing to placate these Muslims—they will stay and grow worse.

    • Mary Crum says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 10:56 am

      To appease them is to be put further under their control. Why can’t our Governments see this? If criticizing Islamic atrocieties and barbaric beliefs and practices is considered hate speech, then what in the world do Social Media sites consider the speech of these Muslim calling for killings and rapes?

      • Moa says

        Aug 9, 2017 at 4:23 pm

        Your Government is not your friend. It never has been. The Americans were cured of this delusion by the British. You are tax livestock working for the elites – the elites may change, the narratives they use to enslave you may change, but the fact you are livestock of the State won’t.

        Your only hope is in like-minded citizens. You only need 3% or so of citizens to peacefully agitate and the sheep will follow, and the politicians follow the sheep.

        Make no mistake, your enemy are the mainstream media and the Left. Islam is merely their muscle.

        • Gideon Prinsloo says

          Aug 9, 2017 at 5:57 pm

          Islam is the real enemy who is using the Main Stream Media and the Left to destroy the West from within since for centuries they couldn’t. but Secularism or atheism has no answer towards Islam and that is why Atheism will go under and be replaced by Islam. The only antidote against Islam is Christianity. Islam is using the Left to silence their opposition to soften the West in order to destroy the West from within and to replace it with Sharia Islamic Rule and Culture

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 9, 2017 at 8:52 pm

          Moa wrote:

          Your Government is not your friend. It never has been. The Americans were cured of this delusion by the British. You are tax livestock working for the elites – the elites may change, the narratives they use to enslave you may change, but the fact you are livestock of the State won’t.
          ………………….

          Pretending that there is no difference between living under a democracy and living under the horror of Shari’ah is utterly false.

        • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

          Aug 9, 2017 at 9:13 pm

          Nope. Mohammadism is not just their muscle. It predates both the “media” and the “left” and it is THE premier evil in the world. Has been for over 1400 years. Pure death and destruction dressed up in a pacifist-religion sheep’s clothing.
          And it will continue to be so until the last Mohammadin expires without having taught his/her children that Mohammad was just a super guy and the ultimate exemplar of behaviour.

        • Paul says

          Aug 10, 2017 at 3:39 pm

          Hoe eloquently put Moa and so bang on the money.. well said xXx

        • Paul says

          Aug 10, 2017 at 3:40 pm

          HOW for goodness sakes not hoe..

    • Anne Smith says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 7:51 am

      On the BBC Today programme this morning we had the mealy mouthed Labour MP for Rotherham telling everyone how she is so vigilant in fighting these rape gangs. No, she wasn’t even an MP at the time the Rotherham offences occurred and she was very quick to join in the slander action against the brave and courageous MEP Jane Collins, who declared that she thought the local MPs must have been aware of what was happening. One has since admitted that he was, the others indulged in a sordid attempt to make money for themselves out of the case, an attempt which has succeeded, encouraged by the appalling modern British judiciary.

      Only one word of her self promotion rang true, that the media refuse to describe the men who form these rape gangs as Pakistanis, instead indulging in euphemism to try to avoid being decried as “racist”. The paranoia in Britain about being called racist has allowed young British girls to be the victims of Pakistani paedophiles for years, the British seemingly content to sacrifice their young daughters on the altar of multiculturalism, the goal of all modern political ambition.

  4. Alexsandr says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:35 am

    the hate crime legislation specifically allows for criticism and satire of religion. So the pold were wrong to have even investigated

  5. Mongoose says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:37 am

    “I have no idea how they obtained my personal information and they weren’t willing to disclose this information during their visit.”
    .
    That’s an easy one ta answer. You posted your views on a site that is run by muzzie loving leftists, they and your government both think you have no right to free speech. They asked for your private info and they willingly provided it.

    • Zé says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 7:39 am

      In the UK there are almost no physical counters.

      Almost all things have to be dealt with by e-mail or post.

      The Government can link your e-mail address to you physical address. With the information from facebook, et voilá.

  6. Liam says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:49 am

    Britain has officially become a despotic, anti free speech fascist police state. I never thought I would see the day… Britain’s allies should condemn this in the strongest way possible.

    • Moa says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 4:26 pm

      The Fabian Socialists and Cultural Marxists worked for nearly a century to do this. Of course this was going to happen while citizens never defended their society from this evil.

      “Britain’ allies” ??

      No, the solution lies solely in BRITISH CITIZENS turning their country around. Stop looking for other people to solve your problems. YOU have to peacefully agitate for your rights.

      • Anne Smith says

        Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 am

        Unfortnately, thanks to the Marxist infiltration over the last sixty years, the products of British state education no longer know a logical or reasoned argument, nor can they make one.
        The mindless baying of the mob has replaced what once was a respected and sensible country.

        That is why we have “no platforms” for people who hold differing views, a MSM which is afraid to hold anything up to the light, a weak and feeble Prime Minister who specialises in promoting Sharia Courts and keeping her head down in the bunker, leftie luvvies haranguing audiences who actually came to see a play – not a political speech, and the BBC which epitomises everything the Marxists wanted to impose on our failing country.

        While the Marxist stranglehold on British education persists there is really not a lot of hope for the country to pull our of its supine and corrupt state of decay.

        Last year I visited the war graves cemetery in Salerno and read many of the inscriptions. I reflected that we lost much of the cream of good British youth fighting the Germans and now seem to have replaced them with a tide of filthy scum from Damascus to Calcutta.

      • Jim says

        Aug 10, 2017 at 9:37 am

        Here is the cure: The British people must turn back to God and Jesus. Overwhelm the Christian churches. Ring the bells! And do like many churches here in the U S have done-have many of the members train to carry and use a handgun! Be the Levites who backed up Moses at the ‘golden calf’ incident!

        • Carolyne says

          Aug 10, 2017 at 9:08 pm

          And many of the churches here in the US have taken government money to “Resettle” these barbarians amongst us. Actually, I know of no church which has recommended its members arm themselves. Westboro, perhaps.

        • carpediadem says

          Aug 11, 2017 at 1:22 am

          Well the Levites were Jewish. Currently it is only Israel who fights jihad, while the Eastern Europeans seem to be catching up fast.

  7. Liam says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:55 am

    98% of global terror is Islamic because Islam teaches separation from, then domination, subjugation and extermination of the non Muslim. Muslims are terrorists in China, India, Russia, Philippines, Europe, North America, South America, Australia, Thailand and Israel, among many, many others. This isn’t a religion. Religions teach good things and unite people. This is a global genocidal death cult founded by a child molester, rapist, thief, killer, lie, genocide and torture and racism teaching bigot named Mohammed.

    • No Fear says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 6:28 pm

      You say “Religions teach good things”. Historically that is not the case. Look at the Wikipedia entry for “Human Sacrifice”.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 9:00 pm

      *Most* religions teach basic goodness–historically, not all, as you note. Islam is the most evil religion widely practiced today.

  8. JOHN SPIELMAN says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 10:01 am

    it is interesting that the police are too stupid to realize the law – two UK street preachers who were criticizing islam are were RECENTLY convicted and fine 10000 dollars have had their conviction overturned on appeal by a higher court who admitted they were only exercising freedom of religion!

    Likewise a northern Ireland preacher who called islam a satanic religion( which of course it is!) and we cannot trust muslims ( because of their propensity for taqiyya-HOLY LYING to unbelievers) was arrested for ‘”hate speech” but was acquitted in court

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 9:02 pm

      It is a lot easier for authorities to go after peaceful people than to go after preachers of violent Islam.

      • Anne Smith says

        Aug 10, 2017 at 8:03 am

        Absolutely spot on Gravenimage. The Muslims, who do not seem to work, can organise a riot at the drop of a hat.

        Upset a Muslim taxi driver, or annoy one in the street and there will very quickly be a crowd of yelling shouting Muslims seeking vengeance.

        No wonder the Police are so terrified of them. Breach of the Peace at the drop of a hat.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 12, 2017 at 1:02 am

          All true, Anne. But while this may be expedient for the police in the short run, it will just embolden Muslims to further violence.

  9. John A. Marre says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 10:08 am

    The UK government is actively using the coercive power of the police (guns, batons, mace, handcuffs, power to detain, power to seize property) to force compliance with the new normal: welcoming the new masters and accepting them gracefully, without complaint.

    Almost as bad in the USA, where ordinary citizens routinely call the police over un-PC insults, perceived slights, or “microaggressions.”

  10. Sven Oljaski says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 am

    Back the F off Uk police. Read the damn Quran and Hadith before you go shitting on people’s freedoms. In the USA it’s considered an inalienable human right for a reason.

  11. mortimer says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 10:45 am

    THOUGHT POLICE CALLING! YOU’VE HAD TOO MUCH TO THINK!

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      +1

  12. mortimer says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 10:48 am

    There are 4,200 different religions. If the UK police are protecting only ONE of the 4,200 religions, then it is INEQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW. They must censor comments regarding the other 4,199 religions, or they must admit that the freedom of speech includes the right to criticize ALL RELIGIONS equally.

    • Winston says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      New ones are invented as zeitgeist circumstance and location dictate. And in remote places there are religions waiting to be discovered.

  13. Lisbon says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 11:01 am

    The UK police force is now a traitorous force in the hands of our enemies.

  14. Henner720 says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Actively bewildered selfdestruction. Dying with a stiff upperlipp trying to carry 500 mio tons of malice.

  15. manat bint allaha says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 11:12 am

    one more reason not to have a facebook account.

    • JawsV says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

      FB is Big Brother. I have nothing to do with it, never have.

    • Bob says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 5:53 am

      Yes, stay away from Face Book!

  16. Voytek Gagalka says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 11:36 am

    Gestapo on British Isles! Who could expect that would happen 70 years ago? Why then they listened to Churchill that they will “never surrender” if they do just that now? British people should better dramatically reverse their usual sluggish attitude of “always obeying” or they are “cooked” for good.

  17. pdxnag says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 11:53 am

    The long arm of the Saudi Religious Police.

  18. steve says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Our police are not what they used to be, see video, ”MUSLIMS CHASE COPS IN LONDON, POLICE RUN FOR COVER”………………………………treat the police now with the respect they have lost………They will act as the Muslim Council of Great Britain directs…..you might call them Quislings……??

  19. Michael Copeland says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Reminder to price and others: in English law “Nothing….. prohibits…. criticism … of particular religions”.

    Here it is in full:

    Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006

    29J Protection of freedom of expression

    Nothing in this part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease proselytising their religion or belief system.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/1/pdfs/ukpga_20060001_en.pdf

    • simpleton1 says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm

      Thanks Michael Copeland,
      That needs to be on a sheet of paper, at the front door, or an app these days, so every citizen can bring this up for full discussion with the police,.
      Perhaps on a link also with the face book comments.

      Those police need a warrant, ok a bit dubious, and need to also show exactly what was in breach.? ?
      Is one supposed to read the thoughts of the police>

      The real pain is the lower magistrate courts and judges enforcing their social justice constructs using the law as a costly bully pulpit.

      The other part and I know most Members of Parliament are in collusion, but they should be made personally aware if possible, with a small delegation of how upsetting it is to have police and magistrates enforcing non laws, on free speech, and that other rogues are having their laws being enforced.
      Just be short sharp and succinct, perhaps leaving a koran, the “peaceful” book with a brief notation of abrogation verses, and the chronological order.

  20. Dec Uman says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    The UK police are now under control of the muslim sharia law endorsed by the prime minister …sharia May!!

  21. Tom says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    A world without freedom to criticize and question religious dogma is a world that is full of the walking dead.

    We all know that leftist thinking (an oxymoron) is without critical thought and simply espouses communist like doctrine while shouting down any factual retort. This, my friends, is what has led to the UK of today and its easily manipulated political and justice systems.

    The Muslim Brotherhood has recognized and identified those weaknesses and is using them to their fullest advantage to silence any criticism of their heinous “religion”.

  22. Robeaver says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    The rape gangs are cleared up. Police are bored. They went onto facebook, as they now have social media watchers.
    Everyone has to make anti Islam comments on all media’s. For example, quote the currantic.

  23. Nigel lang says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 1:08 pm

    I’ve had the same thing happen. They are probably part of prevent.

  24. Shmuel Golden says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    Britain is lost.
    Glad to be an American.

  25. Salome says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    FB has taken it down. But The Mosque of Mogg is up and running.

  26. Guest says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    “These hate preachers and their ilk should be promptly rounded up and deported, or otherwise jailed.”

    Be careful what you wish for. I hope you meant that preachers of actual violence should be dealt with thus?

    We should resist all legislation against ‘hate’ crimes, because it is vague and gives far too much power to the authorities to shut up all criticism.

  27. Sarah says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    Its 1984 esque. Groupthink. Everyone is required to repeat the official, approved speech. And think it.

    I’m curious as to what this guy was writing. Not that it in any way, excuses the behaviours of BritPol.

    Was it mindless ravings about slaughtering all Muslims and reopening up Auschwitz etc etc?
    Was it criticisms of Islam without a lot of understanding behind it – just oafish threats and mutterings?

    Or was he operating much like Jihad Watch, but on a personal level? Informative, factual, reasoned opinions? Or like David Wood with his videos and rebuttals against the utter nonsense of all things Islamic? Or perhaps Bill Muellenberg? Or Gates of Vienna? All people who are just trying to get the truth out, with proof and evidence and facts.

    It matters – not because it provides potential justification for what BritPol are doing, but because of whatever it was that he was saying – they are trying to silence him. Is this because he’s viewed as a threat for shrieking mindless hate and calling for genocide?

    Or is it because he is well educated on the topic, providing calm, thoughtful, intelligent, well-reasoned proof of the myriad of faults and dangers that come with Islam?

    Because if its the latter- that scares me. That tells me that BritPol and the establishment are going after sensible, rational, intelligent men and women for showing proof against the ‘official line’.

    That is 1984 to a tee. That is totalitarianism. That is a police state. That is the government controlling what the people are allowed to say – and eventually (if they get rid of enough who speak out about all of this) the government will control what people are allowed to think.

    I’m the last person to pop on a tinfoil hat. But if the answer is the latter, it makes me want to start planning for a a move to the sticks and getting off the grid. The times, they certainly, are a-changin’.

    • SK says

      Aug 9, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      +1

  28. Lydia says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    Because in the new orwellian nightmare tyranny, there is no more freedom of speech.
    Only I will keep speaking anyway because I know that I do have freedom of speech, no matter
    what they say. Yes, yes, I know…. the few, the brave, courageous and proud. Some of us have to do it,
    right?

  29. SK says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    Haleema and Jibril need to be kicked out of the public YouTube. They need to archive them with the governments and security researchers, to satisfy legitimate demand. No reason why hoi pilloi need to see them on the most convenient platform. Make ’em search more; it will weed out much of the accidental views.

  30. gravenimage says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    UK police warn man to stop criticizing Islam on Facebook
    …………………….

    This is *deeply* chilling.

    Not only is this the crushing of freedom of speech, but it is all the more appalling given that British police have admitted that they do not have the staff to monitor known violent Jihadists–but they can harass good people warning about it.

  31. Wellington says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    How, I would ask, are the UK police a friend or defender of freedom?

    Seems to me the UK police are increasingly becoming an enemy of freedom. If so, shame on them. Forever.

  32. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Let’s call a spade, a spade. These are not police officers. They’re not even UK police. They are shariah police.
    From the comments above it seems that they violating the UK statues so whoever is driving this (be it the shariah police in question or their superiors) need(s) to be fired and/or prosecuted for doing so.

  33. SoCalMike says

    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    Ruled by traitors.
    Not unlike the political and cultural Left here in the US.
    If they had their way, they would put us all in reeducation camps for telling the truth about Islam and Jihad.

  34. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 8:08 am

    The linked-to article http://yourbrexit.co.uk/news/rees-mogg-fan-warned-by-police-2/ is written by one Jonathan Curtis. Mr. Curtis (or his editor?) writes:

    ==QUOTE== The owner of a Facebook page praising the Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has told *their* followers that *they* have been visited by two police officers who provided ‘advice’ that included a warning to stop posting content that is ‘critical of Islam.’
    According to an update on the page called The Church Of Mogg, the page itself was frozen by Facebook for two weeks, and the owner was advised that *they* could face arrest for ‘hate crimes’ if any further content of that nature is posted in the future.
    Perhaps one of the most worrying parts of the Facebook post is that *they* say *they* have no idea how the local police obtained *his* details without some sort of court order or similar legal action. ==UNQUOTE==

    The pronoun “his” must refer to “the owner of a Facebook page”, but who-all is referred to by the plural pronoun “they/their”? I can’t figure it out. Is English not Mr. Curtis’s native language?

    • Frank Courtney says

      Aug 10, 2017 at 10:51 am

      I had the same reservations, Mark, when I read the badly written article.

      In addition, there is no mention of which UK police authority is supposedly involved.

      I suspect the story is spurious.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 12, 2017 at 1:06 am

        Frank, do you believe that Jihad Watch is in the habit of posting false stories? Why?

  35. antoninus says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 11:06 am

    I too had a warning against criticism of Islam, my post was deleted and I was warned off and banned from face ache book for 7 days.

  36. Michael Dixon says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 11:27 am

    If the comments are factual and not intended to incite hatred then the person in this case should have told the police to take a hike. eg Stating that Mohammed was guilty of rape against a minor is, I believe, true. Stating that all muslims are rapists is false and would incite hatred.

  37. Sir Mahmoud FitzAbdul, III baronet of Al-Edgeware says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Inshā’ Allāh, as humble and faithful subjects of the Crown,You will all enjoy more and more various freedoms in followingIyears, thanks to Your wise and selfless lords and overseers. After all, caliphate is, technically, a peculiar kind of monarchy, so the transition should go almost unnoticed. I am sure the grumblers will be few and quickly dealt with.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 12, 2017 at 1:07 am

      Grimly amusing.

  38. Paul says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    SO.. i’ve just been having a think.. if i went to a school and was taught for years and years one thing back then only to be told i was wrongly taught on a daily & weekly & monthly & yearly basis am i within my rights to take the school to court and sue them?? I can apparently commit murder it seems if i choose to follow the the so called holy readings of the koran without fear of reprisal as moslimes seem to be doing just that and all i’ve got to do to enable this is to convert, that’s great innit, i can murder by law and be forgiven with 40 virgins ..There is but one god i was taught in my days at school, had R.E lessons teaching the same thing with homework on the subject to boot, so now i’ve been taught all wrong and now i’m told my family HAVE to accommodate and learn another faith or attend classes as seen with white children on rugs with teachings by and of another so called god then surely my mis-teachings should be held accountable because they have allowed me to grow up to be ignorant of the fact that there’s more than one god and the school in question is and should be held accountable for my ignorance and i now have a choice of which god i want to follow.. and if they’re right by appeasing the moslimes because they believe their faith to be of some credibility then i can go on a killing spree (in the name of love and peace) willy nilly with a pipe bomb killing as many people as i like and get off scot-free surely.. and a god they (the lefties) now knowingly acknowledge is as almighty as the one i was mis-informed about who should i convert preaches and orders me to kill and maim (in the name of love and peace) and says i can and get away with it because it’s religious based whereby i can go and kill any people other that are of any colour race other than my own, just correct me if i’ve got this wrong will you .. how, if this is true, am i not able to sue them and successfully win whereby i’ll be able to afford an ivory tower myself and be able to protect me and mine from a love and peace race of people that so obviously are anything but.. As suing is the in thing nowadays i’m just wondering what my chances are..case in point rested and my point is all i have to do is convert then i can kill “MY” infidels (as it runs both ways) and according to the law i can get away with it… it’s just a thought…

  39. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    ALL liberal “hate-speech laws” ARE crimes!!!

    “The whole concept of “hate speech” (laws against hurt feelings) is political correctness run amok, a leftist anti-free-speech tool that provides an unlimited excuse to shut down and punish anyone who openly disagrees with establishment dicta. Every totalitarian state has similar laws designed to protect the rulers. Such laws have no place in a free society.”

    – Patrick1984 –

    But Terminiello v. Chicago (1949), Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), National Socialist Party v. Skokie (1977), R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992), Virginia v. Black (2003), Snyder v. Phelps (2011) These SCOTUS cases show that unpopular speech is still protected speech.

    SO: What is “hate-speech” and why should it be considered a crime if it’s NOT already: a) a threat; and b) slander (fraud)?

    If it’s not either PHYSICALLY threatening speech – or emotionally threatening BECAUSE it could physically impact one’s life, like how fraudulent slander causes other people to react to one as if one were a criminal in need of hating and beating – then it’s THE TRUTH: and so it SHOULD cause one the emotional distress of ‘hurt feelings!’ So it isn’t objectively “offensive,” but is, in fact, socially beneficial in that it helps defend society from criminals, whether or not said predictably victim-blaming criminal is subjectively “offended” by their victims being notified about THEIR offenses!

    Having no facts to justify their aggressive hypocrisy, all criminals will resort to using emotive ‘arguments’ to justify their crimes by playing the victims. So they (liberals, muslims) can be relied on to try to criminalize hurt feelings and to make offending people, (i.e: the criminals, by accusing them of their crimes) illegal, too!

    ALL “Hate-Speech Laws” ARE CRIMES!

    “Progressive” criminals – who like all criminals desire an equality of outcome over a true equality of opportunity, and to get it will always try to socially engineer ever-more rights and ever-less responsibilities for them selves, by offloading their responsibilities onto their victims by stealing their victims’ rights – pretend to hold submissive masochism as the highest virtue (for their victims to hold, not them) and the ultimate crime to be causing offense and hurting other people’s (criminal’s) feelings, (i.e: by accusing them of their crimes).

    So they want to make it illegal to accuse criminals of their crimes, since that might hurt their feelings and in offending them with the often-painful truth, “make” them commit even more crimes!

    Is there anything which really ought to qualify as hate speech and be banned?

    NO – not because it’s “hateful” (because that sort of nonsense is only making subjective assessments based on emotions;) and “HATE” is really only the perfectly natural human response of perpetual anger towards ongoing crimes (like islam); without ‘hate’ we would never bother to accuse criminals of their crimes in order to stop those crimes.

    Unreasonable false displays of hatred and anger on the other hand, are what the Left is good at – but that’s already illegal, not because of the anger displayed – that’s just the outrageous holier-than-thou virtue-signalling packaging used to disguise their preposterous extortion attempts – but because it’s fraudulent slander.

    Such criminal leftists who try to make “hate” into a crime, only ever make it ‘illegal’ to hate crime itself!

    Speech which is already disallowed is incitement of immediate violence and death-threats … and even those aren’t illegal, if say they call for the police to use violence to counter ongoing mob violence and looting, or call for the death-penalty for murderers!

    ….

    Further, ALL politicians who craft “hate-speech laws” and ALL cops who arrest people for “hate-speech crimes” and ALL lawyers and judges who prosecute people for them, should themselves be fired and JAILED for putting “hurt feelings” before FACTS!

    Especially in the case of islam!

    Everyone who defends islam and muslims endorses crime.
    Endorsing crime IS a crime, so those doing it are criminals.

    Right in the Qur’an is: the permission to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).

    Are death-threats legal? NO.
    Is extortion legal? NO.
    Is slavery legal? NO.
    Is murder legal? NO.
    Is rape legal? NO.

    THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!

    Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!

    Everything muslims pretend to see as “holy” is already a crime!

    So nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!

    • blackcat mendoza says

      Aug 12, 2017 at 9:13 pm

      Sounds like “Hate Speech”, Unca V… 😉

      In fact it’s so HATEFUL that with your permission I’ll cut ‘n paste your argument for personal reference and edification…Thanks!

  40. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    People say the American Constitution’s First Amendment only protects individual citizens (and corporations) from the government, but that private companies can enforce whatever rules they want to within their own domains.

    But … hey, guess what! NOT when their rules amount to CRIMES (say, of slander)!

    See, whenever FASCBOOK (And Twatter and ScrewYouRube) humiliates people in public by censoring them and posting (slanderous, libelous) warnings, they are actually breaking the LAW.

    Slander (and it’s written form, libel) are sub-categories of criminal FRAUD.

    Further, if (as can be easily demonstrated in these cases) they committed their fraudulent, defamatory slanders and libels as part of an orchestrated conspiracy to suppress and destroy evidence of the crimes of the holy-mobster “muslim” gang members of the world’s oldest and largest ongoing extortion racket and crime-syndicate (“ISLAM”) then they are also guilty of endorsing those same crimes (many of which amount to mass-murders, if not to actual genocide) and since islam itself is openly hostile to any and all sovereign nations (which it regards as temporary and man-made false idols, all of which are to be eventually destroyed and replaced with their own one-world muslim Ummah Nation, to be ruled over by their global theocratic caliphate government) it is also a clear case of sedition and treason, of aiding and abetting an existential threat to the United States and Western world in general.

    Zuckerturd and his globalist minions should be arrested indicted tried convicted jailed and possibly executed for their treason to rationality and civilization and their ongoing crimes against humanity.

    • blackcat mendoza says

      Aug 12, 2017 at 9:14 pm

      Ditto my former comment!

  41. jo says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    no guns, no brain, just idiot

  42. Jon Cassar says

    Aug 10, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    I was informed, by someone supposedly in the know, that Zuckerberg in his quest for thousands more censors for Facebook has employed a number of people from North Africa and the Middle East. They get paid a fee of 25 cents for every post that they delete, again from the same source. It strikes me that these may well be the same people who are taking umbrage at any criticism of Islam in the West, taking action themselves as complainants.

  43. Internaut says

    Aug 11, 2017 at 1:34 am

    It reminds me of “Animal Farm” by George Orwell… Free UK and europe is gone. Shame.

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