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Arkansas: Muslim who murdered U.S. soldier demands halal food in prison

Sep 26, 2017 1:12 pm By Robert Spencer

“A federal judge began hearing testimony Monday on a state prisoner’s contention that the Arkansas Department of Correction is violating his right to religious freedom by refusing to provide him a “halal diet” in accordance with his Muslim religion.”

He murdered Pvt. William Long in accordance with his Muslim religion. In explaining how he came to carry out his jihad attack, Muhamma said: “So step by step I became a religiously devout Muslim, Mujahid — meaning one who participates in jihad.”

If he had murdered Long out of adherence to Nazi principles, would the Arkansas Department of Correction be obliged to accommodate his adherence to Nazism in prison?

“Muslim-meal trial underway; man who fatally shot soldier in Little Rock says prison should provide ‘halal diet,'” by Linda Satter, Arkansas Online, September 26, 2017:

A federal judge began hearing testimony Monday on a state prisoner’s contention that the Arkansas Department of Correction is violating his right to religious freedom by refusing to provide him a “halal diet” in accordance with his Muslim religion.

In Abdulhakim Muhammad’s view, meats from herbivorous animals that are slaughtered in accordance with a specific ritual are halal. Muhammad, a Sunni Muslim formerly known at Curtis [sic — actually Carlos — RS] Bledsoe, says “halal” means permitted and “haram” means prohibited. He believes haram food includes pork, meat from carnivorous animals, meat from other animals not properly slaughtered, and any food carrying haram ingredients such as gelatin, alcohol, pepsin, monoglycerides and diglycerides, and other animal byproducts.

“Mr. Muhammad sincerely believes as a practicing Muslim he must consume a halal diet,” according to his attorney, Jess Askew of Little Rock. Askew said that requires the daily eating of halal meats, which could be fish or other meats except for pork. He considers kosher meats, which meet the specific religious requirements for meat to be halal, to be an acceptable substitute.

The dietitian-developed meals the prison system provides three times a day for its 15,000 inmates in 21 units include a rotation of various meats as a daily protein source. Fish, in the form of tuna or mackerel, isn’t an everyday choice, and the other meats aren’t “halal certified.”

Muhammad has been imprisoned since 2012 for the drive-by shooting of two soldiers, one fatally, outside a military recruiting station in Little Rock in 2009. He pleaded guilty to capital murder, attempted capital murder and 10 counts of unlawful discharge of a firearm from a vehicle. He is serving life without parole.

Kay Skillen, the Correction Department’s food services administrator of 20 years, testified that the food being served in the rotation follows Administrative Directive 13-98, which was published Nov. 22, 2013. She said there are meal options available for medically or religiously qualified inmates. They include vegetarian meals; high-calorie, high-protein meals; low-carbohydrate meals; cardiovascular meals; and low-sodium meals. But she said no special foods are purchased to make those special meals; instead, the department’s kitchens specially prepare the ingredients supplied by low-cost vendors.

For inmates who can’t eat pork on the days it is offered, an alternative meat is provided, she said. She said the department also provides common fare, or meatless, meals for inmates who don’t eat meat for religious reasons, and those meals are prepared in separate common fare kitchens to avoid contamination by other foods. She said they may not be kosher-certified, but she believes they are generally accepted as kosher.

Muhammad complained in a 2015 lawsuit that court decisions in 2002 and 2006 led the department to begin serving kosher food for inmates whose religions required it, but that it won’t accommodate him in the same way….

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  1. Linde Barrera says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    I hope for meat they give him ham, pork chops, pigs feet, pork sausage and liverwurst sandwiches..

    • Andy says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 2:53 pm

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    • Dave says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      Just give him vegetarian diet . Tell him not enough funds and this is not a Hotel. LOL !

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 6:48 pm

        That would keep him Halal.

      • WPM says

        Sep 27, 2017 at 5:08 am

        A diet of rice beans and cheese would cover it.

        • Robeaver says

          Sep 27, 2017 at 1:21 pm

          Is ground glass halal? Just askin’.

    • Elizabeth McFarland says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      Why waste our tax dollars on this vile trash! Execute immediately or deport!

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 6:52 pm

        Luckily, Arkansas does have the death penalty.

      • Vivarto says

        Sep 27, 2017 at 4:41 am

        Exactly my thoughts too.
        Give him a hallal meal, and then shoot him.

    • Ned Kelly says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 4:22 am

      bread + water, once a week, if he’s good behaviour.

      • Bob says

        Sep 27, 2017 at 6:54 am

        Plus solitary confinement, with no copy of the ‘holy’ koran, nor a visiting islamic chaplain!

    • strats4ever says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 9:05 am

      I believe all he has to do is say “Bismillah” over ANY food and it becomes halal. Boycott anything that says “halal certified” as that is an islamic tax on YOUR food – you can guess where the money will go.

      • Barbara says

        Sep 27, 2017 at 4:24 pm

        When an animal is slaughtered the Halal way it is what we would described as animal cruelty If you or I did this we would be arrested. So why do we have to break the law to pander to a criminal?

    • Shirley Tadlock says

      Sep 30, 2017 at 6:07 pm

      Lol. Me too. At least he could still eat! More than the young soldier he murdered!

  2. Richard says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    Convicted murderers should receive two choices: eat what’s put in front of you, or starve.

    • JawsV says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 2:51 pm

      Bologna sandwiches (stale bread).

  3. notmoron says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    What about halal bullet?

    • JawsV says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 2:57 pm

      Good one.

  4. mariam rove says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    No matter where they are and what they do/did they demand privileges. m

  5. D-spot says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    Ok! so the jihadist has been incarcerated since 2012, an is now only beginning to complain about his dietary requirements??? What has he been eating since 2012?? Looks healthy enough on whatever it is.

    This guy took the life of a defender of our values and is lucky he doesn’t live in Texas where this wouldn’t be up for discussion!!

    • RonaldB says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 2:42 pm

      Unfortunately, Texas is as subject to federal judge abuse as any other state. A federal judge just found the revised Texas ID law to be unconstitutional, because it is too much to expect minorities to plan to carry their ID when they go to vote.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 6:56 pm

        Grimly true, Ronald.

  6. JoAnn Campbell says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    Muhammad gave up his right to freedom of choice when he murdered one American soldier and wounded another.

  7. Jake says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    They shouldn’t prepare special meat for Muslims. Give them the goddamn vegetarian meals if he won’t eat non-halal meat!

    • Tjhawk says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 2:52 pm

      That’s right!! Feed ’em beans and make them bunk together.

    • Bev says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      Tell him the beans were prepared with halal.

  8. Stan Lee says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    I would prefer that this bloke would be on a vegetarian diet, I’d even add eggs to it, making the diet “Ovo-vegetarian.” This guy has lingered in prison for 8+ years, in which he’s had time for “jail-house” lawyers to fill his head with every complaint he can make. The judicial system MUST move more punctually or guys like this start to think they can beat the murder sentence. Once they’re committed, they must be tried punctually, but suddenly this guy’s jihad seems to have become more important than the lives of two soldiers killed in a “drive-by” of a recruiting office. Such cases were “sat on” during Obama’s terms, but he is gone and this terrorist should “face the music” and darned soon.

  9. Tjhawk says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Can the Arkansas State Department of Corrections legally do business with companies that have discriminatory hiring practices? Halal suppliers can only hire muslim butchers. That discriminates against everyone else. Somebody from Arkansas should check on the legality of state institutions doing business with companies that practice discrimination? Could they buy chickens from a company that has a regulation that states that they will only hire whites?

    • Karen says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      This is a very good point, and I’m going to check on this locally.

  10. LeftisruiningCanada says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    The lack of remorse intimated by making this kind of demand is obvious.
    In this poor servant of evils’ mind, he is the righteous mujahid suffering at the hands of the kuffar for carrying our the divine will, therefore it is his right to demand whatever he wishes from them, the inferior dogs.
    We’re going to need to become rather a bit stronger quite soon, or the sheer power of Islamic belief will overwhelm us while we, as a culture, are still fretting over whether we have the right to say no, or what no even means anyway.

    • Karen says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 5:56 pm

      Yes, yes, yes! All true. And, did you notice the whiney complaint about the kosher food? Again, reveals the mind-set.

  11. mgoldberg says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    He violated the murdered man’s religious rights also…. he should be served fried flies until he learns to be quiet

    • Lor says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      Pithy and distinctly to the point.

    • Bev says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      Remind me to never end up in prison run by you.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 6:59 pm

      Yes–no concerns for the rights of the victim–including his right to life. But then, that is Muslims for you.

  12. Jack Diamond says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    The federal judge needs to read Qur’an 5:5. His religion does not require him to eat halal meat.
    “Made lawful to you this day…the food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them.”

    His religion does require him to make infidels accommodate Islam, and to force an Islamic identity on them, and that is where the halal demand comes from and why it is part of the Shari’a. But…there is no need for a Muslim to eat halal meat, according to his own Qur’an.

    He is lucky he gets to eat anything. He should be dead.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 7:01 pm

      His religion does require him to make infidels accommodate Islam, and to force an Islamic identity on them, and that is where the halal demand comes from and why it is part of the Shari’a.
      ……………..

      Spot on, Jack.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 8:50 pm

      good point JD, all examples of this kind are more about making the unbelievers bend to the will of allah and their own need to be obeyed, rather than the religious sensitivities they try to cover it with.

      have to say i’m not all that hopeful of seeing our western exaggerated fear of causing offense give way to setting reasonable boundaries against the cultural jihad. am willing to be surprised though

  13. RonaldB says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    Cases like this are actually quite valuable as the canary in the coalmine. That is, if society and the law does not have the capability of dealing with a demand this bizarre, how are we going to fare in a real crisis? We did pretty well during the hurricanes, but if we get into a war with North Korea, which is not going to be a cakewalk, do we have the flexibility to react and assure our own survival?

  14. infidel numero uno says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    I think he should receive a complete menu of halal pork…bacon, ribs,chops, feet, etc., etc.

  15. JawsV says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    Is he a black convert to the religion of mass-murder? What’s his real name?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 7:04 pm

      It’s in the article, Jaws, corrected for a slight error by Robert Spencer. His name was Carlos Bledsoe.

  16. PRCS says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Fish (with scales and caught live) are–from what I can discern–ALWAYS halal.

    So, for his health, and for the sake of the taxpayers who will continue to pay to keep him healthy for decades to come, no more brutally slaughtered, extra cost, red meat for him.

    And, BTW, as he apparently hasn’t had halal food since his post conviction incarceration–what’s he been eating?

  17. WATCHER87 says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    If I remember correctly, money must be paid to the Muslim “authorities” in order to have food designated as “halal”, and some portion of that money is used to finance jihad.
    If that is correct, then giving this murderer halal food will help finance more jihad murder.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 7:06 pm

      Exactly so. If he is granted Halal meat, some of the money that goes to pay for it–by the taxpayers of Arkansas–will almost certainly go to fund more violent Jihad.

  18. Arnold Jackson says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    Bread & water. That’s all he deserves.

  19. Lor says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    How dare he! He can pick through whatever is served and eat better than many poor people the world over. Perhaps they should include one hundred pork recipes as part of his punishment .

  20. Qing says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Justice is a death sentence for the murder he committed. Life in prison is not justice.

  21. Sarah says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    I always get a good laugh when I see a Muslim ask for and/or accept kosher food as acceptable food.

    Given their behaviour towards the Jewish people. Frankly, given their downright murderous hatred for the Jews and anything Jewish.

    Its bloody rich and always gives me a chuckle.

    Give this doofus bacon for breakfast, a ham sandwich for lunch and a pork chop for dinner.

    If he wants to starve to death, let him. He’s no loss to the world.

  22. Joe says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    I’d give him some halal pig blood for dipping his halal pig head into.

  23. Karen says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    So we get to support this fine holy Jihadi the rest of his demented life….great. And likely make special food for him to eat. I remember reading about Amnesty International going in to US prisions, and measuring the air/flow in cubic meters/sec, how many people on death row were enrolled in college courses, things like that. If someone’s color TV set isn’t big enough, we usually end up on an AI list along w Iran, Iraq, and Turkey for cruel prison conditions.

  24. gravenimage says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Arkansas: Muslim who murdered U.S. soldier demands halal food in prison
    ………………….

    If Arkansas authorities cave to this, they are fools.

    More:

    For inmates who can’t eat pork on the days it is offered, an alternative meat is provided, she said. She said the department also provides common fare, or meatless, meals for inmates who don’t eat meat for religious reasons, and those meals are prepared in separate common fare kitchens to avoid contamination by other foods.
    ………………….

    This should be more than enough to keep Halal–but for Muslims, it is never enough if they can force the Infidels to adhere to Islamic law.

  25. carlos danger says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    Why is this dirtbag still taking up space? He should be six feet under.

  26. manat bint allaha says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    world health org. has established beyond any doubt that a pound of bacon and a bottle of wine a day greatly reduces the risk of a muslim becoming terrorist.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm

      🙂

  27. Guest says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    “Right of religious freedom?” He threw those rights away when he killed that man

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 8:10 pm

      +1

  28. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Why not give him halal meals? They can be prepared by old Abdul who can’t remember if he wiped himself with his right hand or his left.

  29. weavo2 says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    I live in a city where one of the soldiers shot buy this idiot ‘convert’ is from. I remember the news alerts from the local stations going out when this idiot was on his rampage. It was a day of awakening when Jihad came to Arkansas.

    This dunce came from a good family and is a disgrace to his family. Sure can tell he has no empathy for the soldier he killed and the soldier he wounded. It seems to be the Muslim mantra that even in prison they must seek attention and be treated differently than others simply because of their belief in Islam.

    Could care less that he does not get halal food. The sooner he is executed for his crime the better. I find it disgusting that this criminal sitting in prison is so selfish that he obviously does not reflect on the magnitude of his crimes, but instead is focused on his rights as a Muslim and halal food becomes the important issue while he is imprisoned for murder.

    Islam is truly an evil that is present everywhere. Islam is a menace that has nothing compatible with any basic human kindness or virtue which normal human beings display. Islam is vile and there is no aspect of this belief system which is compatible with any part of our national fabric. .

  30. warren raymond says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 12:19 am

    CAIR and the rest of the 1.5 gazillion Muselmaniacs around the world will back him on this. That’s what they call “human rights”. Infidels, of course, have no such rights.

  31. LeftisruiningCanada says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 12:22 am

    ” I find it disgusting that this criminal sitting in prison is so selfish that he obviously does not reflect on the magnitude of his crimes, but instead is focused on his rights as a Muslim and halal food becomes the important issue while he is imprisoned for murder.”

    +1
    And there we see the poison that is the Koran. Not only does it not tell a man its wrong to murder other men in the street, it tells the man its his duty to do so. And then it tells him to keep fighting until every other person shares this belief or is dead through rejecting it.

    Not a lot in there about repentance, turning the other cheek, doing good to them that curse you etc…gah, the Koran is the sinful natures best friend and most complete guide to false piety imaginable.

  32. Shan says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 12:53 am

    This jihadi was born of a Christian family (If I remember correctly, Father is a Pasteur of a church in Arkansas). He the converted to Islam and subsequently carried out the quranic command of kill and be killed, with reference to infidels.

  33. Vivarto says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 4:42 am

    There should be mandatory death sentence for murder due to terrorism.
    And yes, he should be given a Halal option, but not for long.

  34. FYI says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 6:07 am

    The converts to islamic supremacist ideology always seem to think…..

    “Now that I have converted to islam by saying the shahadah I am entitled to commit deliberate,intentional homicide.As long as I pray 5 times a day and put on a show of outward religious devotion and despite the fact that murder is condemned by God in the Sixth commandment,I expect to be rewarded in paradise by allah for doing.. evil”

    Converts to islam are not suddenly permitted to break God’s commandments just because allah says so:murder is murder.

    The wheat will follow God and obey His Original Commandments(which allah himself doesn’t agree with).

    The chaff will convert to islam…..and think they can get away with it..

  35. I wonder about leftists says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 6:19 am

    Why do prisoners get so pampered in the USA? It is the world upside down. What is that, but it is the same in all western countries, mind you. But crazy, day by day we are snowed under.
    But I am amazed at how many people are interested in what is going on and are only interested in TV, comic shows , their PC’s and as long when everything outwards goes ok, all is well, BUT ALL IS NOT WELL, people !!! Pls, WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. Tony Long says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 8:11 am

    Let the murderer starve. He can go to hell for all I care. T.S.Long Disabled American Veteran.

  37. anke Leibrecht says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 8:11 am

    Freedom of Religion is a personal tright to exercise…no one needs to respect
    the other’s faith and in this case give a murdererr Halal meat because
    his faith dictates it.

  38. Cindy says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 8:53 am

    Who do these people think they are?? Demanding anything from prison. They are a joke and should be laughed at the whole time they speak. You know what I would do??? I would tell them it is the food they wanted and after they ate it tell them it was like everyone else’s or never tell them!!!!! But no the weinnie America we live in today will probably bow to what they want!! Not me!!!

  39. Screeminmeeme says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 10:36 am

    A slab of putrified pig grease crawling with maggots on two pieces of stale bread would do just fine.

  40. Judge Smales says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    “Jail Loaf” is halal, as far as I can recollect. Mashed together leftovers scraped off the bottom of the pans, which would otherwise be thrown away. Super appetizing!

  41. Henner720 says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    And his 4 wifes be with him.
    That guards do not disturb when he prays. ( so they can dumbfound learn the term prayescape.)
    All in the prison, and the judges convert immidiately to islam.
    That he become hadj and will be grantet trip to mekka. ( where he will escape and leave everybody dumbfound).
    He demand that gay and lesbisk personers be thrown off the roof b4 he has to come.
    He is by the way Napoleon Bonaparte also.so you might as well let him go b4 he starts an army in prison.
    And a cell with pool area would be nice to. .
    And free rape of kuffars once rvice a week is only fair to.

  42. Crystal says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    He should count himself lucking that he’s getting food at all. Quite whining. What he’s getting is better that what the man he murdered is eating.

    • Crystal says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 2:17 pm

      He should count himself lucky that he’s getting food at all. Quit whining. What he’s getting is better than the food the murdered victim eating. Besides, what he’s doing is an Islamic trick to get one up on the infidel, getting kafirs to bend to Sharia.

  43. Euripides says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    It’s a game they play to test you.

    Next thing is he’ll complain that the toilet facilities point towards Mecca and he’ll want special facilities. This actually happened in a UK prison. The demands to obey his requirements will multiply.

    I flew on an Arab airline and an Imam demanded to be in first class so that he could roll out his prayer mat and pray. I was shocked at how quickly the Muslim staff booted him (literally) back into economy class. The majority of Muslims don’t need to block the passenger aisles. It’s just a means to get a benefit and the more you submit, the more they demand.

    There are plenty of meat substitutes he an be offered that will provide him with the nutrients required. Beyond that, prisons don’t exist to meet the needs and demands of criminals. Presumably he’d also like to pray in a Mosque but his crime has caused him to lose that right. Clearly he misunderstands the purpose of a prison.

  44. Chet Bundy says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    I’d give him a Hell -ALL Diet:

    Breakfast: Bacon and Bacon, with Larded Bread

    Lunch: Oscar Meyer Hot Dogs, on Larded Buns

    Dinner: Ham and Ham on Larded Bread, with Seasonal Canned Vegetables Sauted in Lard

    (My wife actually renders her own leaf lard that she uses for baking the flakiest pies and biscuits, and the traditional lard she uses for omlettes etc. Good enough for us – should be good enough for this vermin.)

  45. Peter says

    Sep 28, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    He’s lucky I’m not preparing his tray. I’m sure that spit and boogers aren’t considered halal.

  46. John Forbes says

    Sep 30, 2017 at 1:46 am

    This utter nonsense will only STOP once the general population DEMANDS that this continual special treatment for the followers of ISLAM CEASE !
    This is an OBAMA/HILLARY JUSTIN TRUDEAU LIBERALS & ,C.A,I,R & Muslim Brotherhood & Southern Poverty Law group this ( DISEASE for DEMOCRACY ) & the Western World must realize that ISLAM is not going to stop unless battered back as happened long ago ( 1492 to be exact )
    The HUNGARIANS & POLES & SLOVAKS know while the rest of us have either not been taught history or believe the great CON – ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE & VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO THIS ISLAM !
    The WEST has to stop appeasing & stand up but so far I see LITTLE INDICATION that this is about to happen any time soon except in EASTERN EUROPE !

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