“But Islamic Council Vice president Adel Salman said parents are crying out for the service and the Islamic community wanted to take ownership of the issue. ‘To achieve the best outcomes it should be a community-led response, not a police or justice response.'”
If Adel Salman were sincere and consistent in this, he wouldn’t want any taxpayer money at all.
“Muslim helpline request by parents worried about kids being lured by gangs, extremists,” by Annika Smethurst, The Sunday Telegraph, September 16, 2017 (thanks to Kenneth):
SENIOR Muslim leaders are lobbying the Federal Government for taxpayer cash to fund a telephone helpline for desperate parents, worried about their children being lured by gangs or extremist recruiters.
The proposal for a $3.5 million Muslim Crisis Support Service (MCSS), backed by the Australian National University (ANU) and the Islamic Council of Victoria, was presented to senior Turnbull Government ministers in Canberra this week.
According to the proposal document, seen by The Sunday Telegraph, the MCSS would include a 24-hour help line for desperate Muslim parents worried about children “vulnerable to delinquent or violent anti-social behaviours”.
The money would also fund a Mobile Crisis Support Team (MCST) to intervene when Muslim families are in crisis and provide practical and emotional support.
Some Muslim parents are worried their kids could be lured by extremists. Picture: AFP Photo/Delil Souleiman“The danger of Muslim youth committing anti-social behaviours (such as criminal activity, drug and alcohol offending and domestic violence) is arguably becoming greater,” the submission said.
“Often parents, particularly those from newly arrived communities, struggle to understand why things have gone drastically wrong with their adolescent children or where to go for help when this type of crisis arises.”
“Without adequate support structures, many marginalised and disengaged Muslim youth growing up in Australian society are becoming increasingly at risk of falling into negative social circles or being influenced by harmful social media or internet activity,” the proposal said.
Earlier this year a voluntary helpline for Muslim families was launched but the group wants the Government to fund a professional support service which would include social workers and psychologists from the Muslim community. The NSW government recently launched a deradicalised helpline aimed at young Muslims in an effort to stop them turning to violent extremism.
But Islamic Council Vice president Adel Salman said parents are crying out for the service and the Islamic community wanted to take ownership of the issue.
“To achieve the best outcomes it should be a community-led response, not a police or justice response,” he said. “It’s not for people to dob people in”….
D Austin says
Go for it. Great way for Australian Intelligence Services to know who to monitor!
Emilie Green says
New angle to the perpetual con game of getting the jizya from the kaffir.
Jayell says
They want to take ownership of this issue? So they should since their ‘religion’ is responsible for causing it. Which means that they’re also responsible for paying for it, just as anyone is responsible for sorting the mess they cause. And if they want to duck out of that, pay for it then slap a supplementary tax on mosques to recoup the cost to the taxpayer. Simple!
bobm says
Does your jizyhha loose its flavor ;; on the camelssss a$$ overnight..?..does tourrrr goat crrry out in pain .. under thee moons light. ..Arab …deee light.?..
mortimer says
The money would be better spent by funding COUNTERJIHAD VIDEOS, BOOKS and SPEAKERS. Muslims cannot stop jihad, because jihad is INTRINSIC and INEXTRICABLE FROM ISLAM’S SOURCE TEXTS.
Once Muslims start to pick and choose which parts of Islam they like (they do so subjectively) there is nothing to stop them from leaving Islam entirely. Leaving Islam becomes the preferred course after one discovers that there is more WRONG with Islam than there is RIGHT with Islam.
ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING is a method for exposing the textual, archeological, historical and moral inconsistencies in Islam and making it impossible for a rational person to accept this 7th century death cult, extortion cult, enslavement cult and rape cult.
Joe says
Assimilation (AKA deprogramming) works, but it requires the support of those who are in charge. If the leaders were sane or kind, the problem wouldn’t exist, in the first place.
Diversity is the mantra, so I assume that those in charge are trying to convert us into their mindset. In other words, the only assimilation we have is the opposite of what we need.
RAB says
Wow! Here is taqiyya and Islamic deception at its finest. What this really means is that the Muslims wish to take away external authority from the local police and Australian government and put it all in the hands of Muslims.This is all in perfect accordance with the Islamic agenda of the subjugation or death of non-believers and the eventual imposition of Sharia world-wide. Incredible! Muslims tell us what they plan to do, they go ahead, and do it,and our politicians and religious “leaders” still ask what more can they do to help the poor victimized Muslims. Does anybody out there have any good news these days, any hint of sanity on the part of the western world?
Shmooviyet says
Agreed.
The guilty gov’t will ante up, because these youths are part of ‘newly arrived’ communities and are feeling ‘marginalized and disengaged’.
Once again the fault of the West, which must give and give more.
There is a hint of a “don’t say we didn’t warn you..” attitude. Pay up now, or pay in a different way later.
Tom says
How much more of a negative influence could these youth be exposed to other than Islam, which spouts the killing of jews and christians as one of its main tenents.
Why aren’t the devout muslims funding these services themselves as a community.
Who is going to oversee how any public tax money given to the muslim community specifically for these services.
Seems to me that this is the muslim community is telling the rest of Australians to pay up with the jizya and, oh and by the way, WE muslims will look after the calls, investigations, monitoring of our youth ourselves. No need for anyone outside our community to interfere. Sharia in action.
John A. Marre says
Extremism is the devout practice of Islam.
How to eliminate extremism should be obvious.
mortimer says
Muslims leaders who know the source texts cannot tell jihadists not to be jihadists. They have to tell them ‘NOT NOW’. They cannot tell them that Allah disapproves of jihad.
ALLAH PROMOTES JIHAD IN 164 VERSES IN THE KORAN.
This program cannot succeed and is a waste of money. It asks informed people to disbelieve that the Koran says what it says. Absurd.
Georg says
‘To achieve the best outcomes it should be a community-led response, not a police or justice response.’
Go to hell.
mortimer says
The government spy agencies must immediately develop effective protocols for deprogramming Muslims ABSOLUTELY out of Islam. That is the only way to stop jihad.
Georg says
Not a bad idea, but in my opinion there is a very simple aspect to all these problems with Islamization that needs to be brought to the fore:
Proportion of Muslims.
Terror and misery associated with Islam appear to be tightly correlated with their presence in society. This is why the US is doing so much better compared with Europe. It’s why Hungary is doing so much better than France. And why Japan is doing better than the US, and Pluto better than Japan. It couldn’t be more simple, but getting Western governments to admit as much is the task of counter-jihadists at the moment and we all know it is met with unbelievably determined stupidity and self-hatred. It seems the ones who need to be “de-programmed” are leftists as they are the disease and Islam a symptom. Essentially, we need a cultural revolution.
pdxnag says
As always: If a less pious Muslim is not as bad as a pious Muslim then an Apostate from Islam is even better. So if you must give anything then give to the Apostate.
Benedict says
– Muslim leaders demand more taxpayer cash to fight “extremist recruiters” –
Sounds like an extortion racket to me.
dumbledoresarmy says
Exactly.
I’d be CUTTING OFF the flow of public monies to Islamic ‘community leaders’ and ‘community projects’, rather than increasing it!
PRCS says
The demand is really disgusting, and as one can well imagine where such funds would go and for what purpose those ‘community leaders’ would use them, none should be given and the reasons made clear
Malon says
If the money would be given to him, it would end up supporting jihadists. Taqqiya.
“a community-led response, not a police or justice response” says it all: No local laws wanted. Sharia seen as supreme.
Chris Malan says
“If the money would be given to him, it would end up supporting jihadists.” Absolutely right.
Shazza says
A while ago the Islamic Humanoids came up with the idea of ‘safe places’ where the youth could rant without fear of being spied on. Tax payers were also expected to pay but fortunately it was rejected.
This is just more scamming by the unwashed humanoids.
PRCS says
Posted at JW on 6-8-17
Australia: Muslim leaders demand taxpayer-funded “safe spaces” where Muslims can make “inflammatory” comments
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/06/australia-muslim-leaders-demand-taxpayer-funded-safe-spaces-where-muslims-can-make-inflammatory-comments
Sarah says
Oh kiss my round rosy behind, Salman!
This loser wants multiple millions to spend (and we’ll never see how its spent) to hire MUSLIMS to talk to MUSLIMS about how their MUSLIM KIDS are planning on committing terror attacks inside Victoria. Not even Australia wide, he wants 3.5 million for a hotline for Victoria. Most of our Muslims are in Sydney.
If some Muslim parent wants to talk to someone over their fears that their kid is radicalized? Great. I’ll tell you what the number is: 000. Call it and tell the operator you want Police. Or call ASIO. Or the new national security terror hotline that I keep hearing advertised.
But they don’t want that. Don’t want to get little Achmed in trouble. They want a sympathetic fellow Muslim to talk to. Get real.
You want to know, Adel Salman – why these kids are radicalizing? I’ll save us the millions for your corrupt little hotline scheme and tell you.
These kids are raised in the West. They are surrounded by Western culture everywhere they look and turn. But their bastard parents force them face to inwards to their enclaved communities, their homes, their mosques etc – and focus on Islam. They brainwash these kids to believe that the West is corrupted and evil and shameful. They raise these kids aloof to the West and secretly HATING it – whilst living in it, enjoying all the benefits from it.
Then these kids -these Muslims kids, they hear this anti-Western rhetoric – and this ‘die for Allah so you get a bunch of virgins’ claptrap – from their parents. Who they are raised to obediently submit to and never question. They hear the same claptrap in the homes of their friends – because they’re not supposed to get close to infidels. They hear the same claptrap in their community groups that their parents make them hang out in – to further separate them from the West and its evil corruption. And then they hear the same claptrap in their god-rotting mosques. Blared at them week in, week out.
You want to prevent radicalized teens? Then either get rid of every single last Muslim living in this country and send them to an Islamic nation where they can hate the West with their hearts content.
Or. Change the laws, change the expectations, change the rules, ditch this diversity and multiculturism nonsense and force these Muslims to acclimate, to assimilate and to integrate. Ban the women from hijabs, burqas and niqwabs. Ban the long beards and the dishdawas on the men. IF they want to live in the West – they be WESTERN in their dress, their attitudes, their ideas, their values and their beliefs.
Because you know what we don’t see in the news?
‘Breaking News! 15 year old white kid, raised by atheist parents committed a terror attack today in Sydney!’
We don’t see Jewish kids, or Christian kids, or Buddhist kids, or Hindu kids – or the vast vast majority of kids in this country – THE SECULAR NON RELIGIOUS KIDS. They’re not blowing people up. None of us are trying to maim and kill – just the Muslims. As always, its the god-rotting Muslims.
I am so sick of this. So sick of the adamant way the Muslims and the Left are so keen to pretend that the Muslims have NOTHING to do with all of this utter bullshit. Radicalized kids exist because of Muslims. Muslims exist because of Islam. Ban the lot of it. Get them all out, for all I care.
You want to know how to change the notion, Adel Salman, of ALREADY radicalized kids in Australia?? For each one caught – immediately remove the citizenship or residency of them, their parents, their siblings, their grandparents, their aunts, uncles and cousins. Find every last Muslim in this country who is related to them – and deport ALL OF THEM. Without exception, without pause, without delay. Banned from ever reentering Australia for any reason whatsoever, no matter what. AND ban any kids that this entire family might have in the future, from ever coming here for any reason.
Watch how fast. WATCH HOW FUCKING FAST radicalized kids as a concept, dries up in this country. When the Muslims sitting back fat and happy on their gravy train, realize its all about to end for them, if they raise little Achmed to be a killer. The entire community will instantly transform themselves and begin to self-police their own problems. And anyone who refuses to toe the line? Gets deported. Along with everyone they’re related to, by blood AND marriage.
Fix your own filthy, reeking, incestuous, inbred, rotten disgrace of a community Adel Salman. It all boils down to you and your filthy ilk.
D Austin says
Reminds me about an incident years ago where terrorists in Lebanon kidnapped a KGB agent from the Soviet Union. The KGB told the terrorists if they didn’t let him go they would not only kill the terrorists, but kill every living relative they had. They released the KGB guy real fast.
Sarah says
Typical – Russia has the cojones to do this, yet we Westerners seemed to have completely lost our backbone’s and our determination. We really have gotten soft in our lives of ease as an overall cultural community.
Thank-you for sharing that – I hadn’t heard that story, I’m intrigued to do some more investigating now!
PRCS says
The story:
How to Deal With Hostage Takers: Soviet Lessons
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/how-to-deal-with-hostage-takers-soviet-lessons/
Samuel Klas says
Couldn’t agree more.Brilliant!Those creatures export their sickness to the world and expect us,suckers ,to try and cure it. The only medicine I know is lead pill or one way ticket back to the shit hole they come from.
Singh the Sikh says
First ‘desperate parents’ sow the seeds for radicalization in the home, which makes Muslim kids all over the world so fertile for extremist recruiters, then the community leaders demand more money to deal with the problem. This is a classic case of how Islam is screwing the West both ways, or, rather, in multiple ways. This is how Islam had cunningly put the west in death choke with slow strangulation. Islam is like a python gradually sucking the life out of the west through both terrorism and slow economic bleeding. Already the west is blundering around in confusion as the death toll climbs and economic costs mount.
Aussie Infidel says
“The Islamic community wants to take ownership of the issue.” Just like the Halal certification scheme, it would make more jobs for Muslims. And if it is a ‘professional’ service, it would be given official recognition.
Islam is the problem, not the solution! It’s all there in black and white in the Quran, if only our dhimmi leaders would read it. The only way to solve the problem is to ban Islam totally.
Islam is a criminal ideology which has no place in a civilized society.
PRCS says
It can’t be banned from people’s minds.
There’s no way to eliminate every Qur’an, and book burning has a really negative connotation.
And, there’s that Internet thing.
But, its teachings can be exposed and its followers can be challenged to either defend or reject those aspects of Islamic law which are antithetical to democracy, are incompatible with man made, secular laws in non-Muslim nations, and everywhere on the planet which violate individual human rights.
Aussie Infidel says
PRCS, I don’t believe in burning every Quran, and thankfully we now have the internet – or we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The Quran (and the other Islamic texts) should be kept as a reminder to future generations of just how barbarous the Islamic world once was.
But because the Quran preaches illegal behaviour (murder, rape, robbery, racism, slavery etc) as tenets of the faith, Islam – the so-called religion and its human support structure – should be declared a criminal organisation and banned forthwith. Close the mosques and Islamic schools. Arrest anyone who breaks the law. And deport those who continue to do so.
As long as we continue to allow Islam to be practised, and tolerate militant Muslims in our country, they will be a source of future jihad terror attacks.
The West has continued to be re-active to ongoing Islamic incursion. This is not simply a series of isolated crimes, but jihad or holy war against all non-Muslims – as declared by Muhammad 1,400 years ago. This is not a matter for the police, but the military. The only way to defeat this relentless aggressive creed is to be pro-active and meet it head on – before it is too late. We do not have the luxury of time on our side, to hope things will change for the better. As always, our future will be determined by the old Darwinian principle, ‘The survival of the fittest’. And so far, we have not shown that we are fit enough to survive.
Wakeup says
I have a lot of relatives in Australia and if I wanted to go there I would have pretty much no chance so how does this crap get in there. How do you take in a people who need managing do the Gurkas need managing in the UK? why not throw out the muslims and bring in good people who will love and defend your country.
dumbledoresarmy says
Extortion.
My advice to my government would be the opposite: The more jihad plotters are apprehended, the LESS public money *any* Islamic institution should receive.
And…apply the principle internationally as well as domestically.
Acts of Jihad sponsored by Muslim states/ rulers should result in LESS Infidel ‘aid’ to and trade with any such Muslim states/ rulers, not less.
Acts of jihad attempted or carried out by non-state actors suspected to be ‘proxies’ or catspaws of Muslim entities (e.g. the Mumbai 2008 jihad, carried out by jihadis entering India from Pakistan, i.e. waging war on infidel India on behalf of Islamic Pakistan, with Pakistan doing zero to stop them, but granting itself plausible deniability) should be sheeted home to the Islamic states/s or ruler/s that may reasonably be deemed to be *complicit* in the actions of said non-state actors. Hold the bastards responsible for their mad dogs. And.. cut off aid and trade accordingly, at the very least. Acts of jihad waged from across the border of Islamic entity X, against next-door Infidel entity Y, should be responded to be Y by holding X responsible. This is what Israel does. The rest of the Infidel world should do the same.
Cut off not only aid and trade but immigration and tourism…. and Muslim-country funding of mosques in non-Muslim countries.
dumbledoresarmy says
Correction to the above.
“…Acts of jihad waged from across the border of Islamic entity X, against next-door Infidel entity Y, should be responded to by Y, by holding X responsible.”
D Austin says
Israel also bulldozes their house down.
dumbledoresarmy says
Good idea, that. Because at the core of Islam is greed: the control of this-worldly ‘turf’.
Though what the Israelis *should* be doing is bulldozing the enemy operating bases/ forts, aka ‘mosques’. Every time Muslims murder a Jew on ancestral eretz Israel soil, a mosque should be flattened and the land it sits on, seized. And, personally, I think the Israelis would be quite within their rights to kick ALL identifiable Mohammedans out of Judea and Samaria (the historic “mountains of Israel”) AND out of the rest of Israel, from every bit of territory between the Golan and the Negev. Got Muslims? Got Jihad. Israel has Muslims inside the gates; they therefore – like so many other Infidel sovereign states similarly afflicted – get Jihad.
The aim of jihad is to **rule the world**; to seize territory (see Patrick Sookhdeo, “Faith, Power and Territory”, a study of exactly that process of seizure of this-worldly territory). The aim of Infidel governments should therefore be to make sure that acts of jihad result in LOSS of territory.
dumbledoresarmy says
Further correction
for “Acts of Jihad sponsored by Muslim states/ rulers should result in LESS Infidel ‘aid’ to and trade with any such Muslim states/ rulers, not less.”
read
“Acts of Jihad sponsored by Muslim states/ rulers should result in LESS Infidel ‘aid’ to and trade with any such Muslim states/ rulers, not more”.
dumbledoresarmy says
Memo to ALL Aussies commenting on this thread – and many others who are probably lurking.
Read and reread the article.
Read the comments.
Then: let’s all write to our politicians. Be very, very polite. and try to be brief.
Lay it on the line. Point out, “Got Muslims? Got Jihad”. Then state that rather than giving MORE public money to any Islamic leader or (manifestly useless) ‘deradicalisation’ programme run by Muslims… which are obviously useless, we’re getting more and more jihad plots not fewer… we should STOP throwing good money after bad, and… do the *reverse* of what the Mohammedans demand. Give them LESS. Accommodate them LESS. Instead of fawning and flattering and soft-soaping.. crack down.
The more jihad plots/ plotters/ attacks/ attempted attacks there are? The LESS money of any kind should flow to the mohammedan ‘community’ or to any member of it.
If there is a mass-murderous jihad attack on Australian soil.. then … no. more. mosques.
If there is a second.. shut down ten mosques.
And so on.
As for our relations wiht mohammedan countires, including sinister rapidly-going-sharia Indonesia, and nasty Turkey, and hideous Islamic Pakistna, and the sleazily-sinister superficially glitzy Emirates, and the rest.. we need to be slowly, steadily *dis*-entangling ourselves from our most-unhealthy relationshps with same. Beginning by ramping back the ‘aid’ we give to mohammedan entities. EVery time there is a major jihad terror plot and/ or attack, not just in Australi but anywhere in the Infidel world, the amount of ‘aid’ we pour into assorted insatiable mohammedan hell-pits should be quietly *reduced*… Since they won’t stop doing jihad, eventually, we will end up not giving them any ‘aid’ at all.
The way to stop being blackmailed/ extorted is to screw up our courage, gather our forces (including law enforcement and military) and … STOP paying the blackmailers/ extortionists.
Aussie Infidel says
DDA, Good advice. I’ve already written to my local politician (now Labor), and to arrange a personal visit as soon as possible.
todaytonight says
Australian gvt should spend more money in supporting those kids to break free from their abusive backward parents and from their Muslim communities at all.
As those kids taste the Western way of life, their parents start Fighting them. Those kids end up re-paying for their ‘disobedience’, and that is how they start pleasing their parents and their communities – by Disobeying Australian laws wherever they can and by plotting Against non-Muslims.
PERIOD
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UNCLE VLADDI says
i.e: “Give us more government money so we can find out how to stop killing you, infidels!”