“We can learn a lot about what’s most important to a person by pondering his last words. In this video, David Wood discusses the parting thoughts of Jesus, Muhammad, and Nabeel Qureshi.”
Brilliant, and enlightening. Watch.
Comments
nicusays
Will all the respect : the bible was not written by God – it was written by humans .
Early Christianity was based on Buddhism – before Catholic Church ” took over ” .
But this video says what it is about : Muslims only can hate !!! It’s in their book and blood !
St. Manuel II Palaiologossays
The Catholic Church never took over. The Orthodox Church took over. Orthodoxy did have contact with Buddhism, that’s not in dispute. But it wasn’t “based on” Buddhism.
gravenimagesays
With all respect, Nicu, Buddhism was not an inspiration for Christianity–Buddhism was unknown in the Levant in the first century.
But there are certainly good things in Buddhism–unlike Islam.
Here is one version of the last words of the Buddha:
“However disciples, when I pass away, you may think,” the Master’s doctrine is gone and the Master is no more.” You should not think so because the Dharma and the Discipline, which I have taught you, will be your Master after my death. “Let the Dharma be your light. Let It be your refuge. Do not seek any other refuge. “Disciples, you should well protect and preserve the doctrine which I advised you to probe so that this holy life may take its course and continue for ages to come for the welfare of many, to console the world, and for the happiness and welfare of the heavenly beings and men.”
Certainly, much closer to the loving and consoling words of Nabeel Qureshi than to the curses of the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed.
Adesays
You do know that’s just one version of Buddhas last words right ?
When it comes to the life of Buddha, it’s a case of choosing the version you like best !
Just saying
gravenimagesays
Ade, if you check you will see that I plainly said that this was “one version”. I know that there are others; this was the one (that I am familiar with) that is closest to a Christian sentiment.
But *all* the versions I have seen are much more good and decent than the vicious cursing of Muhammed, and I have no doubt that this is true in all cases.
Lydiasays
False. The Bible was written by God… through humans.
Christianity was inspired by… Christ.
There was a takeover during the time of Constantine, that is another history to do one’s homework on.
Anyway…
here is a bit of supernatural evidence of how the entire Bible as we have it today; the Old and New Testament, no more and no less; are the inspired Word of God.
The Bible has the signature or fingerprint of God on it because…
a. When you take the story of the journey of Israel out of Egypt and into Israel, which took a long time, and God foretold that He would lead them back there by the way, every detail of it has the Gospel story written all over it. They had to leave Egypt (symbolic for sin and the world) and repent and accept the atonement of the lamb, only doorposts with the blood of the lamb were saved or passed over… the Passover Lamb (symbolic of Christ’s atoning death on the cross for our sins and rose again). AND, they had to put the blood in specific places and if you connect these places on the doorway, you get a cross. Hmmm…. Pharaoh, (symbolic of the devil), of course did not want them to have the freedom to worship the Lord.
Anyway, they went down to the dead end corner where there was nowhere to go but the Red Sea, and God divinely delivered them (saved by God) while the enemies were drowned. If all the excuses about this miracle were true, then how could an enemy army possibly drown? Hmmm…. Anyway, they began the long trek through the desert. Along the way was also the time when the stubborn generation were told they would not enter the land, but the next generation would; in other words Israel was regenerated (or… born again). Then you have the fact that every detail of the Tabernacle speaks of Christ in one way or another. And… the glory of God in the Spirit came over the tabernacle and filled it… (representing the baptism and filling of the Holy Spirit, the indwelling we get). They journeyed further and learned many lessons, walking by faith daily via the daily bread or manna and so on. They crossed the Jordan (symbolic of water or Spirit baptism) and there was a deal about circumcision monuments (circumcision of the heart). The one who lead them into the promised land was not Moses (representing the Law), but Joshua (representing Jesus) because Jesus saves us, not the law, which condemns us. So the enter the promised land (the victorious Christian life in fellowship with God as He intended us to be). There are so many more details!!! I could go on…!
The fact that the whole outline of salvation was covered over so long a time thousands of years before the Gospel story but foretold it all gives me goosebumps.
b. Then, there are so many other things, types in the Old Testament of things fulfilled in the New Testament. Joseph was a type of Christ, betrayed by his brothers. Moses was as a deliverer, Joshua, Isaac, about every main character of the Bible in some way is a type of Christ. Then you have historical archetypes that are types (the fall of Jericho and parallels to Revelation), the 7 Biblical feasts as a type, the fact that Jesus fulfilled the Feast of Unleavened bread and Passover at the crucifixion on the day, and Firstfruits at the resurrection to the day, and at Pentecost the Holy Spirit descended upon the church at Jerusalem on the very day… coincidence? Nope. Divine inspiration? Yup. And, the fact that these 7 feasts are split in 2 by a long summer harvest period… just random? Nope. That symbolizes the 2 arrivals of Messiah, first to deal with and save us from sin as a servant and lamb, second to deal with the consequences of sin upon the world as a king and lion. There is a reason behind all of it.
c. Bible prophecy. All of Bible prophecy has been fulfilled regarding predictions that were made about cities and destructions, judgments, the exile to Babylon, the return and how from Babylon… just so happened? I don’t think so! Oh, and the Messianic calendar… the 70 weeks of years, 69 weeks from that time up until the birth of Christ (checkmark!) and one last week before His return during the apocalypse, proving both that He is the Messiah, and the divine inspiration of the Bible. Some prophesies are yet future and some misinterpret things but alas, the correct lens shows it all true and fulfilled or just around the corner.
d. The fact that the Bible was written over thousands of years, by separate writers composing 66 books and the message is consistent (repent of your sins and turn to the Savior-Jesus) is another proof.
e. Physical evidence has been discovered to validate the claims and stories as well. It is not fiction. There is one guy who was an atheist and actually set out to disprove that Jesus was historical and things like that and the evidence for Christ kept piling up that he finally gave up the fight against the truth and became a Christian.
f. Everyday, all over the world, people come to salvation in Christ, for about 2,000 years. The enemy has waged war against the church but was never able to conquer it. There has been persecution, infiltration, temptation, and a host of tactics but never has the devil succeeded. (There have been miracles but also in false religion, as we see with Moses and Pharaoh’s magicians so I won’t get into that here.) Anyway, in the face of the worst conceivable persecution the church as stood and prevailed and refused to deny their faith. In fact I have read accounts of the early church standing fast through torture and not even feeling pain, but the Caesars ordering the infliction were dying of disease and painful worms and things like that. But the martyrs went out as saints with only graceful words on their lips, just like their Master!
g. They found manuscripts to prove that the Bible has been preserved and not corrupted because the Scripture texts were identical. That can be done for homework.
I could go on but for the sake of everyone’s schedule…as they say in the world of math…
Q.E.D.
It has been proven.
Another one I can’t resist: Christ’s atonement is both ‘necessary and sufficient’ for our salvation.
( ;
Just remember… God has the last laugh!
Lydiasays
Oh… and…
the last 3 feasts are the feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tablernacles.
Trumpets parallels the trumpets in the book of Revelation (and the story of Jericho), judgment upon the earth for sin, Day of Atonement is about Israel (long story), and Tabernacles is about reconciliation and fellowship with God after the restoration of all things and Christ’s Kingdom instated, the curse removed, etc.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
( ;
Lydiasays
And then we have the Gospel message in the beginning of Genesis in yet another mysterious way… the meaning of the names from Adam to Noah.
God’s Hidden Message (see quoted material below)
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We frequently use the familiar term, gospel, or good news. Where is the
first place it appears in the Bible?
The great discovery is that the Bible is a message system.
In Genesis Chapter 5, there is the genealogy of Adam through Noah.
In our Bible, we read the Hebrew names. What do these names mean in
English?
These are the meanings of their names. This will amaze you.
Hebrew English
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort.
That’s rather remarkable:
Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down
teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.
Here’s the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis.
It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God
had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of
mankind. It is a love story, written in blood on a wooden cross which was
erected in Judea almost 2,000 years ago.
Truly, our God is an awesome God.
Tamasays
Interesting read on symbolism, thanks 🙂 I get to hear the most on the Bible through opinions and lecturers.
Kaysays
@Lydia
Wow! I didn’t know that was in the genealogy.
Lydia, thank you for the information. You could have also mentioned Genesis 3:15 to be the very first promise of God’s saving message:. God the Father is talking to the devil after the devil had successfully tempted Eve and then Adam: “And I (the Father) will put hostility between thee (the devil) and the woman (the virgin Mary) and between thy seed (the devil’s followers) and her seed (the virgin Mary’s Seed, i.e.Jesus). It (Mary’s Seed, Jesus) shall bruise (crush) thy (the devil’s) head, and thou (devil) shall bruise his (Jesus’) heel”. A note: Of course, it is not the woman that has the seed, but the man. But the Word was conceived by the working of God the Holy Spirit, as you and Christians believe. How sad that the Muslims and all the world does not believe this for their forgiveness and comfort, joy, and assurance of eternal life.
Ted Tylersays
Ok, the Bible was written by God – through humans. But how is it then, that God thought that the earth was flat, thought that the sun went around the earth, and did not have a clue about germs?
red rosesays
@Ted Tyler
It sounds like you’re quoting the Quran, not the Bible. In the Quran, it states the following:
Quran 41:12 – The earth existed before there were stars.
Quran 20:53 – The earth is spread flat like a carpet.
Quran 91:1-2 – The moon follows the sun.
Quran 71:19 – “And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out).”
Ted Tylersays
Thanks Red Rose, Actually I was recalling Neil degrasse Tyson and my recollection of some of the earlier Bible passages.
Light is a particle and has mass (a photon) Job 38:19
When I went to Job 38:19 as given in your reference I found nothing that could explain photons or light. The Bible reference was apparently useless. Do you see something there that I do not?
Thanks for compiling the references, but all the knowledge of the bible will not give us lasers, rockets to the moon, predictions of the paths of hurricanes, or air conditioning. To do that, we need Science!
Ted Tylersays
Lydia, Great Post! Thanks for presenting a lot of interesting ideas.
Colin Broughtonsays
It is not suggested by anyone that the Bible was written by God. The Bible was written by human beings who were though inspired by their spirituality.
It is the Qur’an which is thought by Muslims to be the actual words of God.
The New Testament has no connection with Buddhism. For one thing, Buddhism is a life denying religion, while Christianity is life affirming – both this life and the next.
John A. Marresays
Early Christianity was not based on Buddhism.
blitz2bsays
Nicu… Are you a Buddhist? … Why are your arguments sounding as illogical as Muslims… Christianity based on Buddhism? Really?
Buddhism = no deity
Christianity = incarnate deity
Similarity much?
red rosesays
@nicu
Are you saying the “Bible” that contains both the Old and New Testament was based on Buddhism? If this is your case, then you are saying that the Torah was created after Buddhism too. How can one portion be written by God and not the other?
Educate yorselfsays
Do you like math? I love math!
Multiplying all these probabilities together produces a number (rounded off) of 1×1028. Dividing this number by an estimate of the number of people who have lived since the time of these prophecies (88 billion) produces a probability of all 8 prophecies being fulfilled accidently in the life of one person. That probability is 1in 1017 or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That’s one in one hundred quadrillion!
God wrote History in advance in The Holy Bible. http://christinprophecy.org/articles/applying-the-science-of-probability-to-the-scriptures/
xxxChurch100says
Non sense . – Siddhartha Gautama ” the Buddha ” lived some where between 6th and 4th century B.C.
1. There is on reference in the Bible to Buddha or his practices at all .
2. Buddha never spoke or wrote anything of Christ .
3. Buddha believed there was no God … he was not called a god until five centuries after his death by his followers .
To link Buddha to Christ is absurd .
John 3 : 16
Johane Bissonnettesays
Hello David, I hope you see this comment. Thank you for this beautiful video and all the other videos you make. In one of them (about the sheep) you have references from different books (Bakhari etc). I would like to know the exact names and where can I find those books?
gravenimagesays
Johane, the “Bakhari” reference is to Sahih Bukhari, the compiler of the most orthodox compendium of Sunni Hadiths. (“Sahih” means “reliable”, and is the highest level of Hadith).
Johane Bissonnettesays
Thank you for your comment. I know about Bukhari but in that other video that David Wood made, he refers to some other books but the names are so hard to understand. That’s why I was asking.
Thank you also for the meaning of Sahih. That I didn’t know.:)
gravenimagesays
Thanks.
Jack Diamondsays
I’m afraid another sheep ate them.
Just reviewing it, the sheep story came from the hadith Sunan ibn Majah;
Ibn Umar was quoted in Al-Suyuti’s (tr) “The Perfect Guide to the Sciences of the Qur’an”; there was Ibn Sa’d’s biographies “Book of the Major Classes” (kitab al-tabaqat al-kabr); and the hadith of Jami At-tirmidhi. Besides Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.
If I missed any, well, I have my sanity to think of.
Jack Diamondsays
A beautiful and profound video from David Wood.
Ted Tylersays
Yes! I absolutely love this David Wood guy! He doesn’t love me very much because I am an Atheist – but I love him. (Good God! What am I saying??)
Ted Tylersays
Jay Boo, Here are a few reasons that I “love” David Wood:
1. He gives me a lot of information.
2. His videos are brilliant.
3. He is entertaining – I never get tired of listening to him.
4. He is highly logical.
5. He has his facts correct.
6. I admire his dedication.
gravenimagesays
Ted, David Wood *definitely* loves you.
VRWC member77says
I see your doing what Nabeel would want you to do David…………………………keep fighting the GOOD FIGHT.
gravenimagesays
David Wood video: Famous Last Words of Jesus, Muhammad, and Nabeel Qureshi
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I had known that Nabeel Qureshi had been ill; I did not know that he had passed away.
His last words showed him to be a true Christian, and an entirely decent human being–one who had left the savagery of Islam far behind.
Fine tribute from David Wood. Thank you.
Kephasays
May God comfort Nabeel’s friends, family, and loved ones in this time of mourning. Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: yeas saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them. (Rev. 14:13).
WPMsays
God Bless Nabeel Qureshi he knew the true words and message of Christianity love and forgiveness ,he is a bigger man most of us including me.
I was vey saddened to learn of Nabeel’s death. I had hoped to get to know him better. David Wood is a God-send.
gravenimagesays
As so often with Christianity and Islam, compare and contrast.
Benedictsays
Muslims, inspired by their religion, excel in curses. That demonstrates clearly that Islam does not belong to the Abrahamic religions whose hallmark is: “in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
Pat Riotsays
David, So, So Sorry for your loss (in this world) of Nabeel, HOWEVER, Our Faith in Life after death is something we Celebrate as a passing from this World to an “Eternal Life” with our Heavenly Father. I cannot comprehend what Nabeels final prayers may have been, but logic would say they included your Ministry to reach out to Muslims so they too can know the “Love of Christ” Nabeel felt, and knew, for these last years of his life. Although our “Crusade” against Islam is somewhat different, mine also includes the “Lamb of God” at the end. Prayers to all the people Nabeel loved, and touched! I too feel a profound loss!
Flavius Claudius Iulianussays
I’m deeply moved.
Mark Berlingersays
Well, this is sad and shocking news indeed. Nabeel’s search for the truth is a great example of how important the First Amendment is to religious freedom in America. RIP Nabeel.
Jamesonsays
I had always heard that on his deathbed Muhammad ordered his followers to not allow any Jews or Christians in Arabia. Was that also said?
gravenimagesays
It is part of the same passage, Jameson. He condemned Jews and Christians because they built shrines, and so (according to his logic) they had to be driven out of the Arabian peninsula.
I have very serious problems with this “love thine enemy” bit because it tends to lead to passivity in the face of evil.
As a believing Christian, you don’t have to worry much about life on earth because you have eternal salvation in Heaven to look forward to. For the rest of us, however, improving human beings’ short life on earth by reducing their suffering is of paramount importance, for our generation and for the sake of future generations. To do that, we must not only preach love, but we must resist evil by force, if necessary. We believe that this is the morally right and righteous thing to do.
We did not preach love to the Nazis and the Japanese imperialists who were torturing and murdering millions of innocent people. We prevented them from murdering more innocent people by killing them, also by the millions; and no one thought about asking God to forgive them. Except for a rare pacifist here and there, believing Christians readily supported this mass killing of the evildoers.
Likewise, it is not sufficient to preach love to religious Moslems who take seriously the jihadist commands of their god and their prophet. Of course, the more Moslems you can induce to leave Islam, the better; but, as a practical matter, that will not stop the global jihad – either the violent jihad of ISIS or the civilization jihad of the Muslim Brotherhood, not to mention the military jihad of The Islamic Republic of Iran. Based on their sacred texts, those religious Moslems are causing no end of human suffering.
If our conception of righteousness makes us concerned about all this suffering caused by religious Moslems, then we need to take arms against this sea of troubles and, by opposing, end them. In this context, love-thine-enemy pacifism is not noble. It is immoral.
gravenimagesays
Carl–with all respect–I think you largely misunderstand “love thine enemies”.
This *does not* prevent Christians from fighting for what is right–in fact, if it were not for the brave efforts of Christians beating back Islam in centuries past, none of us would be here.
You can love your enemy, and still fight against evil.
One can hope that Muslims can leave Islam and become good people–but that does not mean you sit around and passively wait for it to happen.
Carl Goldberg, PhDsays
I am glad to hear it.
At the same time, in my experience, I have frequently run into Christians who are reluctant to become involved in resisting Islam or even exposing it because they think that exposing Islam is spreading hatred which contradicts “Love thine enemy”. There are lots of Christians and Christian leaders with that point of view. Indeed, it is hard to kill your enemy if you love him. If I remember right, Leo Tolstoy was a very believing Christian who propounded the philosophy of non-resistance to evil. And then there are the Quakers. So, there is a pacifist strain in Christianity even though, as you point out, other Christians have fought Moslems in the past. However, it is doubtful that they loved their enemy while fighting him. Many Christians will see a contradiction between the command to love one’s enemy and killing him.
eduardo odraudesays
Carl, there is no contradiction, provided one employs the concept of “the lesser of two evils.” If one is defending an innocent person, and compelled to use force, that doesn’t have to stop one loving the aggressor — any more than one stops loving one child who is bullying another. The fact that one forcefully pulls the bully off the victim doesn’t change that. Admittedly, it can’t be easy to love an aggressor engaged in such violence that you have to use deadly force on him.
eduardo odraudesays
Carl, you are right about Leo Tolstoy. You might consider reading the Christian writer Vladimir Solovyev’s brilliant fictional dialog in which one of the characters represents Tolstoy and another represents Solovyev. Solovyev’s character argues very persuasively that Tolstoy’s extreme form of pacifism is un-Christian. In English the dialog has appeared as War, Progress, and the End of History, Including a Short Story about the Anti-Christ I found it extremely fascinating. One can read it online here: https://archive.org/stream/warprogressendof00solouoft#page/n7/mode/2up
Ted Tylersays
Yes, Loving your enemy – while he is in the process of killing you – is a good way to get yourself exterminated.
But one should always be mindful of the “There- but for the grace of God – go I”. What you are and what you believe is strongly determined by what you are trained to believe. Most everyone believes what they have been told to believe by their parents and their culture.
gravenimagesays
Carl, you are right that that there are many dhimmi Christians. Of course, there are also dhimmi Jews and Atheists.
But it is very possible to love your enemies and still fight them–you want them to stop attacking, and are quick to befriend them if they *do* stop. We saw this with the Allies with Germany, Italy, and Japan after WWII.
But that does not mean that you have to let your enemies run roughshod over you–just the opposite, in fact. It is evil not to resist evil.
There are a lot of people in the West confused about the importance of opposing Islam–not just Christians.
As for Tolstoy, I respect his fiction, but he was a crank in many of his personal views. He certainly does not represent mainstream Christian thought.
Adrian Johnsonsays
Grandfather was a commando who fought in WW II in N Africa, Italy, and Greece. He was and is (now 96) a devout Catholic. After one bloody battle in Italy, he picked up a German helmet with a bullet-hole from the mud and it still sits in his front hall. About 20 years ago it occurred to him that the owner of the helmet’s service number was still legible in the leather lining, so he copied it down and took it to his parish priest (whose hobby was history) and asked him to say a Mass for the soul of the German soldier, that he should be at peace. The Priest was happy to do so, laying the piece of paper with the German soldier’s conscript number to one side of the altar during the liturgy. This is love of enemy; a christian soldier may be required to kill in war, but he cares as much for the eternal salvation of the soul of others–even his enemy– as for his own.
Adrian Johnsonsays
Father was a commando who fought in WW II in N Africa, Italy, and Greece. He was and is (now 96) a devout Catholic.
After one bloody battle in Italy, he picked up a German helmet with a bullet-hole from the mud and it still sits in his front hall.
About 20 years ago it occurred to him that the owner of the helmet’s service number was still legible in the leather lining, so he copied it down and took it to his parish priest (whose hobby was reading history) and asked him to say a memorial Mass for the soul of the German soldier, that he should rest in peace.
The Priest was happy to do so, laying the piece of paper with the German soldier’s conscript number to one side of the altar during the liturgy.
This is love of enemy; a Christian soldier may be required to kill in war, but he cares as much for the eternal salvation of the soul of others–even his enemy– as for his own.
gravenimagesays
Thank you, Adrian.
Ted Tylersays
I think that we should honor October 10th as Charles Martel Day.
Davegreybeardsays
I share your difficulty in applying the Christian doctrine of “love your enemies,” Carl.
However, I find I can possibly approach the periphery of that divine state by following the immortal advice of that great champion of freedom, Winston Churchill, to wit:
“When you have to kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite.”
Carl Goldberg, PhDsays
That’s a good quip, but I doubt that you will get soldiers to agree with it. Being polite might be very costly, indeed, sort of like an Old West marshal allowing the outlaw draw first.
eduardo odraudesays
Christian pacifism, as I understand it, means you cannot use force to spread the religion. But you can use force to defend innocent people from aggression.
Juhanisays
As an atheist one does not need to care much about the species in nature as he/she thinks not everything has a purpose and the evolution will fix it all sooner or later. It is in contrast with the idea of creation and mission to preserve it. In the creation everything was made perfect in the beginning and then slowly began go towards the thermal death according to the second law of thermodynamics, but the free will (part of the God’s image) of human can counter it.
Talhasays
Nabeel Qureshi’s ill fate took him to chose the path of hell over true path of Allmighty. He chose to worship a human over God (Allah).
red rosesays
@Talha
Your Muslim prophet, mohammad was poisoned by a Jew and died. If he was a holy man, then didn’t God save him? You Muslims are following a FALSE PROPHET.
gravenimagesays
Another Muslim idiot who thinks that Muslims can’t get cancer.
And did he miss David Wood’s point of how loving Nabeel Qureshi was compared to the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed? But them, pious Muslims think that savagery is “godly”. *Ugh*.
Talhasays
David Woods chose to hide many things from bible as Quran clearly states that People of the Book used to hide in the book and passing over much (that which is un necessary). David Woods hide Jesus (pbuh) last words like ” 4.Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” and many more. Secondly the source of evidence for all jesus last words are un confirmed.
In regard to Prophet Muhammad’s (Pbuh) last words are” O’ Allah, with the highest companions”
for these words are as the prophets are being given choice of heaven before death approaches.
In regard to cursing the Christians and Jews for making their prophets tombs as places of worship, is a curse from Allah for their mischief. There is none worthy of worship than All-might Allah.
For Tomb of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), the prophets are buried at the place where they die. He Died in his home and burried there itself which is next and in between to the Prophets Masjid and the Grave yard (Jannatul Baqi). The Prophets Masjid has been expanded and the house of prophet has been taken inside the outer wall or the Masjid. But the tomb is totally closed with the walls and kept separate from the Masjid. None is allowed to bow down to the tomb of Prophet but only visit and send Salam “Peace” on him.
There is none worthy of worship than Allah.
For pain of death, Prophet of Islam had only few minutes of pain which is inevitable as per Quran “Every soul has to taste death”.
For the man who died on cross had an experience of pain for hours.
For Nabeel Quraisi, he had pain for months.
Finally, the words of Nabeel Quraishi doesn’t seems to be from minutes before his painful death.
gravenimagesays
Of course Talha thinks that non-Muslims should be cursed, driven out, and slaughtered.
He is, after all, a devout Mohammedan. *Ugh*.
mortimersays
Thanks for the excellent comparisons, Dr. Wood.
Mohammed’s last COMMANDS were to hurt the Jews and Christians of Arabia by removing their homes, property and all they worked for and EXPELLING THEM from Arabia. His words were pure bigotry.
Mohammed then commanded his followers to PAY BRIBES TO EMISSARIES (i.e. diplomats). Muslims are still sending bribes to diplomats. Ask the Clinton Foundation.
eduardo odraudesays
For anyone who has not yet seen it, here is my favorite video by Nabeel and David Wood:
Facts are not created by words, but words should be created by facts. The last words of Jesus WAS NOT “Father, forgive them…” The last words were either “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Luke, Matthew and Mark. According to John, it was, “It is finished.” See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayings_of_Jesus_on_the_cross
One does not have to lie Jesus good. Jesus was good. Any Muslim with any brains would be able quickly to point out this mistake. How come the Christians cannot? Except for me, of course?
red rosesays
@Chris Malan You are obviously missing the point here, which is instead of cursing the Jewish people, Jesus Christ asked God to forgive their sins. Unlike Mohammad and Muslims who are excited to see harm and death come to innocent people of all ages including little children.
But instead of quoting Wikipedia (user-based platform), let’s take a look at the Bible. I’m quoting from my Aramaic to English Bible.
John 19:30 When Yeshua drank the vinegar, he said, “It is fulfilled” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour, Yeshua cried out with a loud voice and said, “Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani!” My God, my God, why have you spared me!
Matthew 27:50 But Yeshua again cried out with a loud voice and gave up his spirit.
Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour, Yeshua cried out with a loud voice saying, “Eli, Eli, lemana, shabakthani!” which means, My God, my God, why have you spared me!
Mark 15:37 But Yeshua cried with a loud voice and the end came.
Luke 23:44 – 23:46 Now it was about the sixth hour, and darkness fell upon the whole earth, and lasted until the ninth hour. And the sun was darkened, and the curtains at the door of the temple were torn in the center. Then Yeshua cried with a loud voice saying, “O my Father into thy hands I commit my spirit.” He said this and it was finished.
Max Publiussays
I have never heard a Christian call non-Christians filthy and subhuman, but believing Muslims routinely call non-Muslims filthy, subhuman, apes and pigs.
gravenimagesays
+1
Peacemakersays
Muslim prophet Mohammed last word: screw you all !
Therefore, Muslims following Mohammed path are not only screwing infidels but also screwing themselves.
David Pimentelsays
I prefer to be cursed by Allah than rejected by God (e.g., YHWH)!
Kaysays
A fine tribute.
Qureshi makes me think of an old priest I knew. After many sermons over 50 years, at the 50th anniversary of his ordination, he spoke simply. It’s all about love.
tim gallaghersays
I would also like to express my sadness about the death of Nabeel Qureshi at such a young age. He was fighting for good against evil and would have done so much more good if he had been allowed to live a fuller life. Well done, achieving what you did, Nabeel. You were one of the good guys who spend their time fighting against that inhuman, barbaric creed, Islam. A life well lived.
Bill D.says
Muhammad’s final words include more than what is covered in this video and reveal the contradictions in his character. See the recent documentary, “Through the Lens of Muhammad’s Life: How the Example and Teachings of Muhammad Shape Islam Today” https://youtu.be/YtKJpahyC10
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nicu says
Will all the respect : the bible was not written by God – it was written by humans .
Early Christianity was based on Buddhism – before Catholic Church ” took over ” .
But this video says what it is about : Muslims only can hate !!! It’s in their book and blood !
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
The Catholic Church never took over. The Orthodox Church took over. Orthodoxy did have contact with Buddhism, that’s not in dispute. But it wasn’t “based on” Buddhism.
gravenimage says
With all respect, Nicu, Buddhism was not an inspiration for Christianity–Buddhism was unknown in the Levant in the first century.
But there are certainly good things in Buddhism–unlike Islam.
Here is one version of the last words of the Buddha:
“However disciples, when I pass away, you may think,” the Master’s doctrine is gone and the Master is no more.” You should not think so because the Dharma and the Discipline, which I have taught you, will be your Master after my death. “Let the Dharma be your light. Let It be your refuge. Do not seek any other refuge. “Disciples, you should well protect and preserve the doctrine which I advised you to probe so that this holy life may take its course and continue for ages to come for the welfare of many, to console the world, and for the happiness and welfare of the heavenly beings and men.”
Certainly, much closer to the loving and consoling words of Nabeel Qureshi than to the curses of the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed.
Ade says
You do know that’s just one version of Buddhas last words right ?
When it comes to the life of Buddha, it’s a case of choosing the version you like best !
Just saying
gravenimage says
Ade, if you check you will see that I plainly said that this was “one version”. I know that there are others; this was the one (that I am familiar with) that is closest to a Christian sentiment.
But *all* the versions I have seen are much more good and decent than the vicious cursing of Muhammed, and I have no doubt that this is true in all cases.
Lydia says
False. The Bible was written by God… through humans.
Christianity was inspired by… Christ.
There was a takeover during the time of Constantine, that is another history to do one’s homework on.
Anyway…
here is a bit of supernatural evidence of how the entire Bible as we have it today; the Old and New Testament, no more and no less; are the inspired Word of God.
The Bible has the signature or fingerprint of God on it because…
a. When you take the story of the journey of Israel out of Egypt and into Israel, which took a long time, and God foretold that He would lead them back there by the way, every detail of it has the Gospel story written all over it. They had to leave Egypt (symbolic for sin and the world) and repent and accept the atonement of the lamb, only doorposts with the blood of the lamb were saved or passed over… the Passover Lamb (symbolic of Christ’s atoning death on the cross for our sins and rose again). AND, they had to put the blood in specific places and if you connect these places on the doorway, you get a cross. Hmmm…. Pharaoh, (symbolic of the devil), of course did not want them to have the freedom to worship the Lord.
Anyway, they went down to the dead end corner where there was nowhere to go but the Red Sea, and God divinely delivered them (saved by God) while the enemies were drowned. If all the excuses about this miracle were true, then how could an enemy army possibly drown? Hmmm…. Anyway, they began the long trek through the desert. Along the way was also the time when the stubborn generation were told they would not enter the land, but the next generation would; in other words Israel was regenerated (or… born again). Then you have the fact that every detail of the Tabernacle speaks of Christ in one way or another. And… the glory of God in the Spirit came over the tabernacle and filled it… (representing the baptism and filling of the Holy Spirit, the indwelling we get). They journeyed further and learned many lessons, walking by faith daily via the daily bread or manna and so on. They crossed the Jordan (symbolic of water or Spirit baptism) and there was a deal about circumcision monuments (circumcision of the heart). The one who lead them into the promised land was not Moses (representing the Law), but Joshua (representing Jesus) because Jesus saves us, not the law, which condemns us. So the enter the promised land (the victorious Christian life in fellowship with God as He intended us to be). There are so many more details!!! I could go on…!
The fact that the whole outline of salvation was covered over so long a time thousands of years before the Gospel story but foretold it all gives me goosebumps.
b. Then, there are so many other things, types in the Old Testament of things fulfilled in the New Testament. Joseph was a type of Christ, betrayed by his brothers. Moses was as a deliverer, Joshua, Isaac, about every main character of the Bible in some way is a type of Christ. Then you have historical archetypes that are types (the fall of Jericho and parallels to Revelation), the 7 Biblical feasts as a type, the fact that Jesus fulfilled the Feast of Unleavened bread and Passover at the crucifixion on the day, and Firstfruits at the resurrection to the day, and at Pentecost the Holy Spirit descended upon the church at Jerusalem on the very day… coincidence? Nope. Divine inspiration? Yup. And, the fact that these 7 feasts are split in 2 by a long summer harvest period… just random? Nope. That symbolizes the 2 arrivals of Messiah, first to deal with and save us from sin as a servant and lamb, second to deal with the consequences of sin upon the world as a king and lion. There is a reason behind all of it.
c. Bible prophecy. All of Bible prophecy has been fulfilled regarding predictions that were made about cities and destructions, judgments, the exile to Babylon, the return and how from Babylon… just so happened? I don’t think so! Oh, and the Messianic calendar… the 70 weeks of years, 69 weeks from that time up until the birth of Christ (checkmark!) and one last week before His return during the apocalypse, proving both that He is the Messiah, and the divine inspiration of the Bible. Some prophesies are yet future and some misinterpret things but alas, the correct lens shows it all true and fulfilled or just around the corner.
d. The fact that the Bible was written over thousands of years, by separate writers composing 66 books and the message is consistent (repent of your sins and turn to the Savior-Jesus) is another proof.
e. Physical evidence has been discovered to validate the claims and stories as well. It is not fiction. There is one guy who was an atheist and actually set out to disprove that Jesus was historical and things like that and the evidence for Christ kept piling up that he finally gave up the fight against the truth and became a Christian.
f. Everyday, all over the world, people come to salvation in Christ, for about 2,000 years. The enemy has waged war against the church but was never able to conquer it. There has been persecution, infiltration, temptation, and a host of tactics but never has the devil succeeded. (There have been miracles but also in false religion, as we see with Moses and Pharaoh’s magicians so I won’t get into that here.) Anyway, in the face of the worst conceivable persecution the church as stood and prevailed and refused to deny their faith. In fact I have read accounts of the early church standing fast through torture and not even feeling pain, but the Caesars ordering the infliction were dying of disease and painful worms and things like that. But the martyrs went out as saints with only graceful words on their lips, just like their Master!
g. They found manuscripts to prove that the Bible has been preserved and not corrupted because the Scripture texts were identical. That can be done for homework.
I could go on but for the sake of everyone’s schedule…as they say in the world of math…
Q.E.D.
It has been proven.
Another one I can’t resist: Christ’s atonement is both ‘necessary and sufficient’ for our salvation.
( ;
Just remember… God has the last laugh!
Lydia says
Oh… and…
the last 3 feasts are the feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tablernacles.
Trumpets parallels the trumpets in the book of Revelation (and the story of Jericho), judgment upon the earth for sin, Day of Atonement is about Israel (long story), and Tabernacles is about reconciliation and fellowship with God after the restoration of all things and Christ’s Kingdom instated, the curse removed, etc.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
( ;
Lydia says
And then we have the Gospel message in the beginning of Genesis in yet another mysterious way… the meaning of the names from Adam to Noah.
God’s Hidden Message (see quoted material below)
——————————————————————————–
We frequently use the familiar term, gospel, or good news. Where is the
first place it appears in the Bible?
The great discovery is that the Bible is a message system.
In Genesis Chapter 5, there is the genealogy of Adam through Noah.
In our Bible, we read the Hebrew names. What do these names mean in
English?
These are the meanings of their names. This will amaze you.
Hebrew English
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort.
That’s rather remarkable:
Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down
teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.
Here’s the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis.
It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God
had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of
mankind. It is a love story, written in blood on a wooden cross which was
erected in Judea almost 2,000 years ago.
Truly, our God is an awesome God.
Tama says
Interesting read on symbolism, thanks 🙂 I get to hear the most on the Bible through opinions and lecturers.
Kay says
@Lydia
Wow! I didn’t know that was in the genealogy.
John S. Obeda says
Lydia, thank you for the information. You could have also mentioned Genesis 3:15 to be the very first promise of God’s saving message:. God the Father is talking to the devil after the devil had successfully tempted Eve and then Adam: “And I (the Father) will put hostility between thee (the devil) and the woman (the virgin Mary) and between thy seed (the devil’s followers) and her seed (the virgin Mary’s Seed, i.e.Jesus). It (Mary’s Seed, Jesus) shall bruise (crush) thy (the devil’s) head, and thou (devil) shall bruise his (Jesus’) heel”. A note: Of course, it is not the woman that has the seed, but the man. But the Word was conceived by the working of God the Holy Spirit, as you and Christians believe. How sad that the Muslims and all the world does not believe this for their forgiveness and comfort, joy, and assurance of eternal life.
Ted Tyler says
Ok, the Bible was written by God – through humans. But how is it then, that God thought that the earth was flat, thought that the sun went around the earth, and did not have a clue about germs?
red rose says
@Ted Tyler
It sounds like you’re quoting the Quran, not the Bible. In the Quran, it states the following:
Quran 41:12 – The earth existed before there were stars.
Quran 20:53 – The earth is spread flat like a carpet.
Quran 91:1-2 – The moon follows the sun.
Quran 71:19 – “And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out).”
Ted Tyler says
Thanks Red Rose, Actually I was recalling Neil degrasse Tyson and my recollection of some of the earlier Bible passages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0x_zcoCDc
gravenimage says
Ted, I know your main thing here is your hatred of religion in general.
But *surely* you can see the moral difference between Islam and Christianity here, even if you believe both are false?
Ted Tyler says
Graven,
“But *surely* you can see the moral difference between Islam and Christianity here, even if you believe both are false?”
Absolutely!
1. With Christianity you try to be good. With Islam, you submit or die.
2. With Christianity, you can co-exist with other religions. With Islam, you cannot.
3. With Christianity, you have respect for women, With Islam, women are property.
4. With Christianity, there is some truth in Science. With Islam, all truth is in the Koran.
R Russell says
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Scientific-Proof-of-Bible.php
Yes! the Bible speaks of the Earth being round.
Ted Tyler says
R Russell,
Here if one of the lines from your reference:
Light is a particle and has mass (a photon) Job 38:19
When I went to Job 38:19 as given in your reference I found nothing that could explain photons or light. The Bible reference was apparently useless. Do you see something there that I do not?
Thanks for compiling the references, but all the knowledge of the bible will not give us lasers, rockets to the moon, predictions of the paths of hurricanes, or air conditioning. To do that, we need Science!
Ted Tyler says
Lydia, Great Post! Thanks for presenting a lot of interesting ideas.
Colin Broughton says
It is not suggested by anyone that the Bible was written by God. The Bible was written by human beings who were though inspired by their spirituality.
It is the Qur’an which is thought by Muslims to be the actual words of God.
The New Testament has no connection with Buddhism. For one thing, Buddhism is a life denying religion, while Christianity is life affirming – both this life and the next.
John A. Marre says
Early Christianity was not based on Buddhism.
blitz2b says
Nicu… Are you a Buddhist? … Why are your arguments sounding as illogical as Muslims… Christianity based on Buddhism? Really?
Buddhism = no deity
Christianity = incarnate deity
Similarity much?
red rose says
@nicu
Are you saying the “Bible” that contains both the Old and New Testament was based on Buddhism? If this is your case, then you are saying that the Torah was created after Buddhism too. How can one portion be written by God and not the other?
Educate yorself says
Do you like math? I love math!
Multiplying all these probabilities together produces a number (rounded off) of 1×1028. Dividing this number by an estimate of the number of people who have lived since the time of these prophecies (88 billion) produces a probability of all 8 prophecies being fulfilled accidently in the life of one person. That probability is 1in 1017 or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That’s one in one hundred quadrillion!
God wrote History in advance in The Holy Bible.
http://christinprophecy.org/articles/applying-the-science-of-probability-to-the-scriptures/
xxxChurch100 says
Non sense . – Siddhartha Gautama ” the Buddha ” lived some where between 6th and 4th century B.C.
1. There is on reference in the Bible to Buddha or his practices at all .
2. Buddha never spoke or wrote anything of Christ .
3. Buddha believed there was no God … he was not called a god until five centuries after his death by his followers .
To link Buddha to Christ is absurd .
John 3 : 16
Johane Bissonnette says
Hello David, I hope you see this comment. Thank you for this beautiful video and all the other videos you make. In one of them (about the sheep) you have references from different books (Bakhari etc). I would like to know the exact names and where can I find those books?
gravenimage says
Johane, the “Bakhari” reference is to Sahih Bukhari, the compiler of the most orthodox compendium of Sunni Hadiths. (“Sahih” means “reliable”, and is the highest level of Hadith).
Johane Bissonnette says
Thank you for your comment. I know about Bukhari but in that other video that David Wood made, he refers to some other books but the names are so hard to understand. That’s why I was asking.
Thank you also for the meaning of Sahih. That I didn’t know.:)
gravenimage says
Thanks.
Jack Diamond says
I’m afraid another sheep ate them.
Just reviewing it, the sheep story came from the hadith Sunan ibn Majah;
Ibn Umar was quoted in Al-Suyuti’s (tr) “The Perfect Guide to the Sciences of the Qur’an”; there was Ibn Sa’d’s biographies “Book of the Major Classes” (kitab al-tabaqat al-kabr); and the hadith of Jami At-tirmidhi. Besides Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.
If I missed any, well, I have my sanity to think of.
Jack Diamond says
A beautiful and profound video from David Wood.
Ted Tyler says
Yes! I absolutely love this David Wood guy! He doesn’t love me very much because I am an Atheist – but I love him. (Good God! What am I saying??)
Ted Tyler says
Jay Boo, Here are a few reasons that I “love” David Wood:
1. He gives me a lot of information.
2. His videos are brilliant.
3. He is entertaining – I never get tired of listening to him.
4. He is highly logical.
5. He has his facts correct.
6. I admire his dedication.
gravenimage says
Ted, David Wood *definitely* loves you.
VRWC member77 says
I see your doing what Nabeel would want you to do David…………………………keep fighting the GOOD FIGHT.
gravenimage says
David Wood video: Famous Last Words of Jesus, Muhammad, and Nabeel Qureshi
………………………..
I had known that Nabeel Qureshi had been ill; I did not know that he had passed away.
His last words showed him to be a true Christian, and an entirely decent human being–one who had left the savagery of Islam far behind.
Fine tribute from David Wood. Thank you.
Kepha says
May God comfort Nabeel’s friends, family, and loved ones in this time of mourning. Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: yeas saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them. (Rev. 14:13).
WPM says
God Bless Nabeel Qureshi he knew the true words and message of Christianity love and forgiveness ,he is a bigger man most of us including me.
Terry Gain says
I was vey saddened to learn of Nabeel’s death. I had hoped to get to know him better. David Wood is a God-send.
gravenimage says
As so often with Christianity and Islam, compare and contrast.
Benedict says
Muslims, inspired by their religion, excel in curses. That demonstrates clearly that Islam does not belong to the Abrahamic religions whose hallmark is: “in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
Pat Riot says
David, So, So Sorry for your loss (in this world) of Nabeel, HOWEVER, Our Faith in Life after death is something we Celebrate as a passing from this World to an “Eternal Life” with our Heavenly Father. I cannot comprehend what Nabeels final prayers may have been, but logic would say they included your Ministry to reach out to Muslims so they too can know the “Love of Christ” Nabeel felt, and knew, for these last years of his life. Although our “Crusade” against Islam is somewhat different, mine also includes the “Lamb of God” at the end. Prayers to all the people Nabeel loved, and touched! I too feel a profound loss!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’m deeply moved.
Mark Berlinger says
Well, this is sad and shocking news indeed. Nabeel’s search for the truth is a great example of how important the First Amendment is to religious freedom in America. RIP Nabeel.
Jameson says
I had always heard that on his deathbed Muhammad ordered his followers to not allow any Jews or Christians in Arabia. Was that also said?
gravenimage says
It is part of the same passage, Jameson. He condemned Jews and Christians because they built shrines, and so (according to his logic) they had to be driven out of the Arabian peninsula.
eduardo odraude says
Jameson, he says it in Sahih Muslim, one of the two most canonical hadith collections. See here:
http://quotingislam.blogspot.com/2011/06/muhammad-rejected-religious-pluralism.html
More Ham Ed says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8
Carl Goldberg, PhD says
I have very serious problems with this “love thine enemy” bit because it tends to lead to passivity in the face of evil.
As a believing Christian, you don’t have to worry much about life on earth because you have eternal salvation in Heaven to look forward to. For the rest of us, however, improving human beings’ short life on earth by reducing their suffering is of paramount importance, for our generation and for the sake of future generations. To do that, we must not only preach love, but we must resist evil by force, if necessary. We believe that this is the morally right and righteous thing to do.
We did not preach love to the Nazis and the Japanese imperialists who were torturing and murdering millions of innocent people. We prevented them from murdering more innocent people by killing them, also by the millions; and no one thought about asking God to forgive them. Except for a rare pacifist here and there, believing Christians readily supported this mass killing of the evildoers.
Likewise, it is not sufficient to preach love to religious Moslems who take seriously the jihadist commands of their god and their prophet. Of course, the more Moslems you can induce to leave Islam, the better; but, as a practical matter, that will not stop the global jihad – either the violent jihad of ISIS or the civilization jihad of the Muslim Brotherhood, not to mention the military jihad of The Islamic Republic of Iran. Based on their sacred texts, those religious Moslems are causing no end of human suffering.
If our conception of righteousness makes us concerned about all this suffering caused by religious Moslems, then we need to take arms against this sea of troubles and, by opposing, end them. In this context, love-thine-enemy pacifism is not noble. It is immoral.
gravenimage says
Carl–with all respect–I think you largely misunderstand “love thine enemies”.
This *does not* prevent Christians from fighting for what is right–in fact, if it were not for the brave efforts of Christians beating back Islam in centuries past, none of us would be here.
You can love your enemy, and still fight against evil.
One can hope that Muslims can leave Islam and become good people–but that does not mean you sit around and passively wait for it to happen.
Carl Goldberg, PhD says
I am glad to hear it.
At the same time, in my experience, I have frequently run into Christians who are reluctant to become involved in resisting Islam or even exposing it because they think that exposing Islam is spreading hatred which contradicts “Love thine enemy”. There are lots of Christians and Christian leaders with that point of view. Indeed, it is hard to kill your enemy if you love him. If I remember right, Leo Tolstoy was a very believing Christian who propounded the philosophy of non-resistance to evil. And then there are the Quakers. So, there is a pacifist strain in Christianity even though, as you point out, other Christians have fought Moslems in the past. However, it is doubtful that they loved their enemy while fighting him. Many Christians will see a contradiction between the command to love one’s enemy and killing him.
eduardo odraude says
Carl, there is no contradiction, provided one employs the concept of “the lesser of two evils.” If one is defending an innocent person, and compelled to use force, that doesn’t have to stop one loving the aggressor — any more than one stops loving one child who is bullying another. The fact that one forcefully pulls the bully off the victim doesn’t change that. Admittedly, it can’t be easy to love an aggressor engaged in such violence that you have to use deadly force on him.
eduardo odraude says
Carl, you are right about Leo Tolstoy. You might consider reading the Christian writer Vladimir Solovyev’s brilliant fictional dialog in which one of the characters represents Tolstoy and another represents Solovyev. Solovyev’s character argues very persuasively that Tolstoy’s extreme form of pacifism is un-Christian. In English the dialog has appeared as War, Progress, and the End of History, Including a Short Story about the Anti-Christ I found it extremely fascinating. One can read it online here:
https://archive.org/stream/warprogressendof00solouoft#page/n7/mode/2up
Ted Tyler says
Yes, Loving your enemy – while he is in the process of killing you – is a good way to get yourself exterminated.
But one should always be mindful of the “There- but for the grace of God – go I”. What you are and what you believe is strongly determined by what you are trained to believe. Most everyone believes what they have been told to believe by their parents and their culture.
gravenimage says
Carl, you are right that that there are many dhimmi Christians. Of course, there are also dhimmi Jews and Atheists.
But it is very possible to love your enemies and still fight them–you want them to stop attacking, and are quick to befriend them if they *do* stop. We saw this with the Allies with Germany, Italy, and Japan after WWII.
But that does not mean that you have to let your enemies run roughshod over you–just the opposite, in fact. It is evil not to resist evil.
There are a lot of people in the West confused about the importance of opposing Islam–not just Christians.
As for Tolstoy, I respect his fiction, but he was a crank in many of his personal views. He certainly does not represent mainstream Christian thought.
Adrian Johnson says
Grandfather was a commando who fought in WW II in N Africa, Italy, and Greece. He was and is (now 96) a devout Catholic. After one bloody battle in Italy, he picked up a German helmet with a bullet-hole from the mud and it still sits in his front hall. About 20 years ago it occurred to him that the owner of the helmet’s service number was still legible in the leather lining, so he copied it down and took it to his parish priest (whose hobby was history) and asked him to say a Mass for the soul of the German soldier, that he should be at peace. The Priest was happy to do so, laying the piece of paper with the German soldier’s conscript number to one side of the altar during the liturgy. This is love of enemy; a christian soldier may be required to kill in war, but he cares as much for the eternal salvation of the soul of others–even his enemy– as for his own.
Adrian Johnson says
Father was a commando who fought in WW II in N Africa, Italy, and Greece. He was and is (now 96) a devout Catholic.
After one bloody battle in Italy, he picked up a German helmet with a bullet-hole from the mud and it still sits in his front hall.
About 20 years ago it occurred to him that the owner of the helmet’s service number was still legible in the leather lining, so he copied it down and took it to his parish priest (whose hobby was reading history) and asked him to say a memorial Mass for the soul of the German soldier, that he should rest in peace.
The Priest was happy to do so, laying the piece of paper with the German soldier’s conscript number to one side of the altar during the liturgy.
This is love of enemy; a Christian soldier may be required to kill in war, but he cares as much for the eternal salvation of the soul of others–even his enemy– as for his own.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Adrian.
Ted Tyler says
I think that we should honor October 10th as Charles Martel Day.
Davegreybeard says
I share your difficulty in applying the Christian doctrine of “love your enemies,” Carl.
However, I find I can possibly approach the periphery of that divine state by following the immortal advice of that great champion of freedom, Winston Churchill, to wit:
“When you have to kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite.”
Carl Goldberg, PhD says
That’s a good quip, but I doubt that you will get soldiers to agree with it. Being polite might be very costly, indeed, sort of like an Old West marshal allowing the outlaw draw first.
eduardo odraude says
Christian pacifism, as I understand it, means you cannot use force to spread the religion. But you can use force to defend innocent people from aggression.
Juhani says
As an atheist one does not need to care much about the species in nature as he/she thinks not everything has a purpose and the evolution will fix it all sooner or later. It is in contrast with the idea of creation and mission to preserve it. In the creation everything was made perfect in the beginning and then slowly began go towards the thermal death according to the second law of thermodynamics, but the free will (part of the God’s image) of human can counter it.
Talha says
Nabeel Qureshi’s ill fate took him to chose the path of hell over true path of Allmighty. He chose to worship a human over God (Allah).
red rose says
@Talha
Your Muslim prophet, mohammad was poisoned by a Jew and died. If he was a holy man, then didn’t God save him? You Muslims are following a FALSE PROPHET.
gravenimage says
Another Muslim idiot who thinks that Muslims can’t get cancer.
And did he miss David Wood’s point of how loving Nabeel Qureshi was compared to the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed? But them, pious Muslims think that savagery is “godly”. *Ugh*.
Talha says
David Woods chose to hide many things from bible as Quran clearly states that People of the Book used to hide in the book and passing over much (that which is un necessary). David Woods hide Jesus (pbuh) last words like ” 4.Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” and many more. Secondly the source of evidence for all jesus last words are un confirmed.
In regard to Prophet Muhammad’s (Pbuh) last words are” O’ Allah, with the highest companions”
for these words are as the prophets are being given choice of heaven before death approaches.
In regard to cursing the Christians and Jews for making their prophets tombs as places of worship, is a curse from Allah for their mischief. There is none worthy of worship than All-might Allah.
For Tomb of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), the prophets are buried at the place where they die. He Died in his home and burried there itself which is next and in between to the Prophets Masjid and the Grave yard (Jannatul Baqi). The Prophets Masjid has been expanded and the house of prophet has been taken inside the outer wall or the Masjid. But the tomb is totally closed with the walls and kept separate from the Masjid. None is allowed to bow down to the tomb of Prophet but only visit and send Salam “Peace” on him.
There is none worthy of worship than Allah.
For pain of death, Prophet of Islam had only few minutes of pain which is inevitable as per Quran “Every soul has to taste death”.
For the man who died on cross had an experience of pain for hours.
For Nabeel Quraisi, he had pain for months.
Finally, the words of Nabeel Quraishi doesn’t seems to be from minutes before his painful death.
gravenimage says
Of course Talha thinks that non-Muslims should be cursed, driven out, and slaughtered.
He is, after all, a devout Mohammedan. *Ugh*.
mortimer says
Thanks for the excellent comparisons, Dr. Wood.
Mohammed’s last COMMANDS were to hurt the Jews and Christians of Arabia by removing their homes, property and all they worked for and EXPELLING THEM from Arabia. His words were pure bigotry.
Mohammed then commanded his followers to PAY BRIBES TO EMISSARIES (i.e. diplomats). Muslims are still sending bribes to diplomats. Ask the Clinton Foundation.
eduardo odraude says
For anyone who has not yet seen it, here is my favorite video by Nabeel and David Wood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91AM7665cbo
Kay says
Thanks
RichardL says
What a wonderful man.
Ade says
muhammad is a disgrace
and the sooner “all of mankind” condemn him for the utter creep he was the better
duh swami says
“Don’t worry, be happy’…Have as much love and as much fun as you can…without them, life is hard, then you die,,,
nicholas tesdorf says
Great presentation, thanks for it all, David. Vale, Nabeel Qureshi.
Chris Malan says
Facts are not created by words, but words should be created by facts. The last words of Jesus WAS NOT “Father, forgive them…” The last words were either “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Luke, Matthew and Mark. According to John, it was, “It is finished.” See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayings_of_Jesus_on_the_cross
One does not have to lie Jesus good. Jesus was good. Any Muslim with any brains would be able quickly to point out this mistake. How come the Christians cannot? Except for me, of course?
red rose says
@Chris Malan You are obviously missing the point here, which is instead of cursing the Jewish people, Jesus Christ asked God to forgive their sins. Unlike Mohammad and Muslims who are excited to see harm and death come to innocent people of all ages including little children.
But instead of quoting Wikipedia (user-based platform), let’s take a look at the Bible. I’m quoting from my Aramaic to English Bible.
John 19:30 When Yeshua drank the vinegar, he said, “It is fulfilled” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour, Yeshua cried out with a loud voice and said, “Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani!” My God, my God, why have you spared me!
Matthew 27:50 But Yeshua again cried out with a loud voice and gave up his spirit.
Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour, Yeshua cried out with a loud voice saying, “Eli, Eli, lemana, shabakthani!” which means, My God, my God, why have you spared me!
Mark 15:37 But Yeshua cried with a loud voice and the end came.
Luke 23:44 – 23:46 Now it was about the sixth hour, and darkness fell upon the whole earth, and lasted until the ninth hour. And the sun was darkened, and the curtains at the door of the temple were torn in the center. Then Yeshua cried with a loud voice saying, “O my Father into thy hands I commit my spirit.” He said this and it was finished.
Max Publius says
I have never heard a Christian call non-Christians filthy and subhuman, but believing Muslims routinely call non-Muslims filthy, subhuman, apes and pigs.
gravenimage says
+1
Peacemaker says
Muslim prophet Mohammed last word: screw you all !
Therefore, Muslims following Mohammed path are not only screwing infidels but also screwing themselves.
David Pimentel says
I prefer to be cursed by Allah than rejected by God (e.g., YHWH)!
Kay says
A fine tribute.
Qureshi makes me think of an old priest I knew. After many sermons over 50 years, at the 50th anniversary of his ordination, he spoke simply. It’s all about love.
tim gallagher says
I would also like to express my sadness about the death of Nabeel Qureshi at such a young age. He was fighting for good against evil and would have done so much more good if he had been allowed to live a fuller life. Well done, achieving what you did, Nabeel. You were one of the good guys who spend their time fighting against that inhuman, barbaric creed, Islam. A life well lived.
Bill D. says
Muhammad’s final words include more than what is covered in this video and reveal the contradictions in his character. See the recent documentary, “Through the Lens of Muhammad’s Life: How the Example and Teachings of Muhammad Shape Islam Today” https://youtu.be/YtKJpahyC10