Jewish organizations in Hungary should not be opposing this initiative. How could opposing Soros’ socialist, globalist agenda, which involves flooding Europe with Muslim migrants who regard Jews as their worst enemies (cf. Qur’an 5:82), possibly be anti-Semitic?
“Hungary set for fresh anti-Soros blitz,” AFP, September 19, 2017:
Budapest (AFP) – Hungary is set to launch another state “national consultation” about US financier and philanthropist George Soros, the government said Tuesday, six months before expected general elections.
The campaign would be to investigate public views on the “Soros plan”, and would likely be launched next month, government spokesman Bence Tuzson told public radio, without giving further details.
Last week a top official in the ruling Fidesz party, Lajos Kosa, said that this “Soros plan” includes Europe accepting a million migrants per year and the demolition of Hungary’s anti-migrant border fences.
Prime Minister Viktor Orban has regularly attacked the Hungarian-born Soros in the last year, calling him a “public enemy” for his alleged backing of uncontrolled mass immigration.
A national consultation earlier this year also focused on Soros, seen as a liberal bogeyman by Budapest who funds a raft of civil society groups in central and eastern Europe.
An image of the 87-year-old laughing adorned billboard posters alongside a message urging Hungarians “not to let Soros have the last laugh”.
The posters, some of which were daubed with anti-Semitic graffiti, were widely condemned including by Soros himself and Hungary’s main Jewish organisation, which called them “poisonous”.
The drive is the latest of a series of taxpayer-funded “national consultations” by Orban’s government comprising questionnaires sent to households and accompanying mass media “public information” campaigns.
The first one, in 2015, included a questionnaire asking households about “immigration and terrorism”….
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
There is NO reason to accept the evil Soros Plan for a MILLION hateful Muslim migrants each year. They hate the new host nation and want to take it over and make it Islamic. The correct word for them is INVADERS.
John Forbes says
I really hope HUNGARY & POLAND & SLOVAKIA & The Czeck Republic stop SOROS in his TRACKS !
This SOROS if left to his own will destroy EASTERN EUROPE as he has the WEST !
Amos says
Why isn’t Hungary’s Criminal Justice System opening a criminal investigation of Soros and his financial empire? His backing of criminal enterprises in the United States through hisvfunding of proxy organizations must have mirror sites and activities in Hungary.
Fred Parsonsf says
Why isngt the US not opening a criminal investigation of soros????????????
Voytek Gagalka says
Because it is Achilles’ heel of many between Jewelry: once “one of their own” is attacked by “outsiders,” they unite at once and accuse of usual “Antisemitism,” even if it is NOT Antisemitism at all. Don’t ask me why they associate themselves with such despicable evil man as Soros, be he a Jew or not. How many blacks are ready to excuse bad behavior of their fellow blacks? How many Mohammedans? Tribalism causes it all.
mgoldberg says
It is not tribalism… it is the globalist financing of the EU, the UN, all the democratic liberal leftist machines across the western world. That is what the organisations that put themselves up as jewish organisations find themselves ‘allowed’ to be. They are mostly non observant jews, but they wind up speaking for all the jews there, since they will follow all the usual ‘progressive’ rules of joining the crowds.
There are other sides but this is the key point. It has very little to do with ‘tribalism’.
To speak of the nationalists as in the right, having moral authority is denied by all the progressives who warn of nazi’s under the bed. The jewish organisations are scared to death to opposed that dictate.
Soros should be exposed and hounded out of power, before he ruins more governments. And you can add all those technocrats who rule the computer ( microsoft, google, twitter, apple, amazon) who are stifling anything but ‘progressive’ movements.
marc says
A couple of things here.
Sorors himself does not identify as a Jew, and his behaviour has always been anti-zionist.
The loud mouth born jews who only seem to identify as jews when they shout “anti-semitism” are a particular bunch who the leftist media like to give a voice to do not represent the majority.
Real nazis, white supremacists, and there are a lot of them in Hungary, like to call out Soros as a Jew, technically he is, but that is not his defining nature, or connected in anyway to what he does.
gravenimage says
All true, Marc.
Mark says
There’s no anti-semite worse than a Jewish anti-Semite.
Soros is despicable and evil.
Stan Lee says
Voytek: I would think that all Jews, observant or non-observant, any with a trace of Judaism in their souls, would have rejected Soros long ago. First, as I understand Jewish birth-rite, Georgi Soros was born to a non-Jewish Hungarian mother and only children born to Jewish mothers are automatically Jews, unless they, themselves, convert to any other faith or none at all. Soros’ father was known to be a non-practicing Jew who worked for the Nazi occupiers and the Fascist “Arrow-Cross” Hungarians during WW2, in identifying Jews who were sent to concentration camps if not murdered before that. That leaves the rumor of Georgi Soros being a Jew of any standard, complete poppy-cock. He is a rogue, whatever he is, closer to Marxism-Leninism and not only poison to Jews, but to the human race. He will never set foot in Hungary, unless by something worse than the sky falling, democracy would vanish from Hungary. If Soros ever set foot in Hungary, even with all of his money, he would still become a candidate to a Hungarian Bastille for all of his criminality. As an American, I cannot imagine how he ever was conferred American citizenship, unless it required lots of secret money which he could have provided. (This possibility is very depressing to even consider, but my country is not without political thieves) Soros has been exposed, but not enough. Ergo, he still exists at age 87 years, and I understand that he has a son who is in the Soros line of succession. That is not good news.
SMA says
I agree with your goldberg and marc’s comments. A huge shame not more members of the general public actually use their critical thinking abilities to understand this.
If they still have those abilities being a defining factor…….
manat bint allaha says
if only you were right.
noticed myself how quick some jews are to yell ‘anti-semitism’ in response to critique.
don’t know about blacks but i can tell you no mohammedan even bothers to excuse the crimes committed by one of their own.
to them it all makes sense.
‘and then we shall have peace’ said the emperor.
Quaker Lady says
Well, it’s hard to get away with calling taking action against Soros anti-Semitism when the State of Israel is doing much the same thing. Soros, the unashamed Nazi collaborator, has spent much of his career trying to destroy the Jewish state and true Jews know that well. I love how the piece describes his organizations as “civil society groups,” that’s really rich. He is funding open borders, anti-police, anti-Semitic radical groups worldwide, kind of like one of the old conspiracy stereotypes come to life. How it is that he lived while so many innocent and worthy Jews were murdered in the Shoah could make you believe in the devil for sure.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“civil society” is a term coined by Hillary. They are nothing but Alinskyite agitation and propaganda groups. There is nothing benevolent about them.
gravenimage says
The term civil society goes back to Aristotle. You are mistaken in your belief that this was ginned up by Hillary.
The concept of a civil society is actually very important–that is what the free West is. To surrender this fine value to those trying to destroy it is foolish.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I am mistaken. I should have used the word ‘co-opted’ rather than ‘coined.’
Amos says
Gravenimage, Please provide the Becker # reference to your statement re civil society in Aristotle.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Flavius.
gravenimage says
Amos, Aristotle used the phrase “koinōnía politikḗ” (κοινωνία πολιτική) in his Politics, when writing about the Polis (city state). The Roman Cicero also used the phrase.
“Societas civilis” was used during the late medieval and early Renaissance period by writers such as William of Moerbeke and Leonardo Bruni.
It has been used more recently by figures such as Czech Václav Havel. There are thousands of more examples.
Just because idiots like Hillary Clinton have misused this important concept does not mean it should be rejected.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Watch Oliver Stone’s “Ukraine on Fire” and then watch Andrew Breitbart and Steve Bannon’s “Occupy Unmasked”
The way Soros destabilizes a country is by his “color revolutions.” The methods that he successfully used in the Ukraine are now being used in the US. (He is also using them in other countries such as the Republic of Macedonia.)
I would also recommend “True story of Ukraine Civil War (from the people of Donbass)” that can be found on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Jme77Dfc4
SMA says
Thanks for this. An Indonesian friend Told me Soros ruined Indonesia’s economy. He gets everywhere.
gravenimage says
Islam ruined Indonesia’s economy.
Mike says
PM Orb in should hire a hit team to go after Soros. Kinda blunt bit we’ve watched him here in the US do whatever he wants with no repercutuions. He could get away with murder as has Bill and Hill Clinton.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The best way to “hit” Soros is for everyone to know what he and his henchmen are about. Educate, educate, educate.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
Unlike the Muslim world, we do not put out Fatwas.
mortimer says
Many Jewish journalists and writers have denounced Soros for failing to support Jews and for defaming Israel.
Soros has denounced all nationalities including those of Hungary and Israel. Soros endorses a one-world utopia where he is a god and controls from behind a curtain.
Is that ‘Jewish’ or ‘Semitic’? No! It’s MEGALOMANIA or NARCISSISM! Nothing to do with Judaism at all.
Infidel says
Soros is nothing but an agent of the Saudis and his coffers are overflowing with petro-dollars. And of course, he has so many cronies in the Left.. No doubt, he is talking and behaving like this..
Yohanan says
Spencer, you’ve lost it. To parrot fake alt-right news without authentic source. Just how was Soros a collaborator in Holocaust? Collaboration to what degree in surviving terror genocide?
http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
Here in Israel we know we are like any country and people – a mixed bag with own set of problems, not least government corruption. So open democratic criticism is helpful in reforming systems and state… Criticism of Israel that does not attack right of existence is helpful. There are superwealthy proponents on all sides… Criticism of Israel that does not attack right of existence is helpful.
Rationality is something to aim for and maintain… As for open forum here, no standard there. But from Robert Spencer a level of truth is expected.
ElderlyZionist says
Thank you for the link Yohanan. That was educational.
marc says
@Yohanan
The snopes article is a straw man, and does not address the content of the dailywire.com that was the reference, snopes is good at that.
Kay says
Snopes is good at twisting reality and putting itself up as declaring the truth. I don’t trust it.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Snopes?! Seriously?! Soros probably owns Snopes!
Anyway, here’s his confession, in his own words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqw2-TlaWMk
He was proud of making money from the Nazis for betraying his own people.
gravenimage says
Soros is appalling *now*.
But he was just a teenager when the Nazis invaded Hungary, and just fifteen when the war ended. Like many Jews who wanted to survive, he did work for the Judenrat, running errands. When he was given a list of prominent Jews in the community to deliver, he got nervous, and asked his father what to do.
His father said he had to deliver it, but that he should warn those on the list to get out if they could. It was good advice, as those on the list were shortly targeted for arrest. His actions actually saved some people.
Does this make him a Nazi callaborator? Not any more than many other Jewish people, and much less than some.
That being said, his current actions are terribly concerning. He does not have to have been a Nazi to be dangerous now.
saturnine says
This article in Muslim Matters, posted by a commenter a few days ago, provides another perspective. Written by convicted terrorist Randall Royer, it sounds the alarm over initiatives by George Soros and the progressives to liberalize Muslim attitudes and beliefs. The debate in the comments is interesting.
https://muslimmatters.org/2017/09/20/how-the-progressive-left-wants-to-change-islam-in-america/
Baucent says
Might be a case to too much public consultation. Orban is elected to govern is he not? He can just tell Soros he’s not welcome and reject his meddling.
Baucent says
” Soros was a Nazi collaborator during World War II.”
I’ve no liking for the man, but facts please. He’s 87 years old, when the war ended in 1945 he was 15 years old. When Hungary was invaded by the Nazis in 1939 he was only 9 or 10 years old. Work out for yourself what sort of “collaborator” he might have been, or for how long.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Here’s his confession, in his own words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqw2-TlaWMk
He was proud of making money from the Nazis for betraying his own people
gravenimage says
First time I’ve seen this clip, Uncle Vladdi–you are right–Soros’s reaction is disgusting. That he keeps smiling throughout–even if this is a nervous reaction–is also just appalling.
Mark says
No….he was about fourteen. When asked on 60 Minutes if he felt bad about selling out his own people he said “no.” He went on to explain that if he hadn’t sold out the Jews, somebody else would have.
F–k him in spades.
Thomas says
Soros is a fellow who should never have been welcomed to USA. Surely, he should never have been allowed to qualify for USA Citizenship.
Allan Mandrowski says
Why do evil toads like this one outlive those who are good hearted and spirited. 🙁
FYI says
George Soros and his Open Society foundation.
If you want to know who finances much of the protest groups then..”Follow the money”.
You will find the financial equivalent of the Wizard of Oz hiding behind the curtain..and oh look… it’s Billionaire George isn’t it?
In October 2015,the Hungarian P.M Orban said in a speech ..
“{Mr soros} is one who supports anything that weakens nation states”.
Mr Orban gave an outstanding speech on 15/3/2016..
“mass migration is a slow stream of water persistently eroding the shores.It is masquerading as a humanitarian cause but its true nature is the occupation of territory”
The Hungarians will not get much understanding from “mutti” Merkel(the 2010 winner of the Coudenhove-Kalergi prize medal:an award given for the promotion of an insidious plan for REPLACING the people of the EU)
Meanwhile,if you want to know the greedy billionaire who finances these protest groups,the Wizard himself….
Then “Follow the Soros-bricked road”{La la la la la la,la la,lalalalalala}.Honestly, it is worthy of a musical….
Kay says
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did.”
I agreed with the above commenters: any claim S makes to being Jewish is questionable.
Politicianaphobia says
Soros, aka Dr. Evil admits he helped the Nazis and he says it with a smile. Who do you think owns Snopes? Money drives him, nothing more.
Politicianaphobia says
Yohanan, Tread lightly in unknow water, Mr. Spencer is not know to be a man who uses unreliable sources and is quite rational and open. I could attack you, Dickweed but I will not go to your level. HA HA HA Snopes HA HA HA HA Yes, do check with Georgi Soros’s Snopes.
jewdog says
Soros-Think: Charity means letting in a mass of un-vetted migrants who in the aggregate have anti-Semitic views and are generally a bunch of primitives with extreme-right views about women, free speech, other faiths and human rights in general – i.e., charity is a suicide pact. No thanks.
Hungary does not want to be Germany.
Soros is the most evil Jew since Lazar Kaganovich carried out Stalin’s plan in Ukraine. But, hey, he means well!
Carolyne says
Soros and Madelyn Albright are the spitting image of each other. I think they are the same person. You never see them together do you?
Lioness says
In Hungary he should be tried in absentia for Nazi collaboration. The Jews should support this 100%. Soros is public enemy number one, a serious threat to global stability. Like the evil billionaire in James Bond movies who threatens the world with destruction, Soros is for real.
Politicianaphobia says
Soros is helping Muslims and the Muslims are taking all the support they can from Soros. This may end up being a no win situation for both. Evil vs. Evil.