It is increasingly becoming a criminal offense to criticize Islam and oppose Sharia doctrines in Canada. What is “far right” about PEGIDA (Patriots of Canada Against the Islamization of the West), which supports Western principles of freedom?
Police said they (PEGIDA)…recognize that a person has fundamental right; these include the freedom of opinion, expression, and peaceful assembly.
Are these values disputable?
Although PEGIDA is painted as “far right” and “anti-Islam,” it is more accurate to refer to it as a group of activists, working for the freedom of all Canadians who oppose Sharia principles in the West.
“2 people arrested at anti-Islam rally Saturday, 100 gathered at City Hall”, CBC News, September 24, 2017:
London police arrested two people on Saturday during an anti-Islam rally in front of City Hall, which saw about 100 people, including rally participants and people staging a counter-protest.
The group that organized rally, Patriots of Canada Against the Islamization of the West (PEGIDA), began the protest at Victoria Park before marching down to City Hall.
Police said they “recognize that a person has fundamental right; these include the freedom of opinion, expression, and peaceful assembly” in a news release.
Far right groups, including PEGIDA, organized a similar rally in front of City Hall last month. Up to 500 people gathered during the two-hour event, which pitted anti-Islam groups against counter-protesters.
Police said the vast majority of the gathering on Saturday remained peaceful. They did not give specific details on why the two people were arrested…..
El Cid says
Why? to send a message. Stay home.
It’s called intimidation.
Tom says
Agree. That is what they want to do , shut all opposition
mortimer says
The message that should be sent by protest groups is against SHARIAFICATION … a protest against discriminatory Sharia law.
Because Sharia DISCRIMINATES against women and dirty non-Muslims, virtually EVERYONE can agree that DISCRIMINATORY Sharia has no place in a society built upon human rights and civil liberties.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I heard plenty of people refuse to believe that there is anything wrong with Shari’ah–and without knowing anything claim that things like amputations, beheadings, and stonings are not “real” Shari’ah.
Here’s a disgusting whitewash from the Washington Post:
“Five myths about sharia”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-sharia/2016/06/24/7e3efb7a-31ef-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html
mortimer says
Question 1: The kneejerk expression ‘right-wing’ is automatically applied to ANYONE who criticizes or opposes Islam! But why? 80% of all humans do not want discriminatory Sharia law. Are they ALL ‘far right wing’? Impossible.
And Question 2: The implication of the ‘right-wing’ applied to counterjihadists is the ISLAM is a LEFTIST or MARXIST ideology. Nothing could be further from the truth. Islam is correctly speaking a JIHADIST IDEOLOGY. All of Islam is JIHADIST. So I ask you, HOW DID ISLAM BECOME ‘LEFTIST’ OR MARXIST’ since Mohammed died 1186 years before KARL MARX was born???
It’s absurd to call the counterjihad movement ‘RIGHT WING’. All non-Muslims are in effect COUNTERJIHADISTS.
david Cameron says
I was just going to make a post saying the exact thing. Right wing and left wing are almost identical. They’re both socialist and totalitarian. Conservatism doesn’t fit either label.
Jedothek says
The left-right distinction stopped being useful a hundred years ago (1917). Let’s drop it.
mortimer says
Today’s Leftards are unknowingly calling themselves PRO-JIHADISTS and PRO-SHARI-ISTS.
Alain says
I agree and those labels have no meaning in the war that is being waged across the West. It is a war against freedom, both personal and collective freedom by those who go under many different names and labels. Those resisting and fighting for freedom are demonised and called all kinds of names by the totalitarian groups, which far too often include the state.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–this is absurd. I believe in freedom of expression and equal rights and am against rape and the murder of gay people, all of which–somehow–now makes me “far right”.
Stephaniems says
The left has gone all the way to communism and you are far right of them. Which probably makes you a centrist but you will be labeled a right winger. Welcome to the club… we share political hell stories of how we’ve been called racist, xenophobic, islamaphobic and white supremacist on Sat at 8. Welcome aboard
gravenimage says
True, Stephan.
And thanks for that story, Joe. It bothers me that young people are being so indoctrinated–it makes things much more dangerous for all of us.
mortimer says
80% of all humans oppose discriminatory Sharia law. That would make them all ‘right-wing’ by implication. But are they?
We see that right-wing is just an AD HOMINEM meant to disnismm any argument framed against Sharia law before it is heard.
mortimer says
correction: dismiss and discount any argument…
steve k says
As usual the left has stolen the language and made it serve them. I think we need to start using far left or pro jihad left. or perhaps fascist left, totalitarians left, Stalinist left, other suggestions are welcome.
I like the word islamonazis or islamofascists for Islamists as well. We should bring those back.
The language we/they use is important.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“As usual the left has stolen the language”
Was just thinking that reading the article and then the above comments. “far right” is used with such comical lack of care towards anyone questioning the various current culture destroying agendas. The terms left and right are far too vague and misused and we should, as you say, aim for a little more precision.
shortfattexan says
Well, it is true that the overwhelming majority of anti-jihadists are politically conservative, because there are almost no prominent leftists who have the courage or the wisdom to openly criticize Islam.
Partly this is due to simple inertia. The thinking goes something like this: “Only right-wing bigots oppose Islam, and I’m a liberal, therefore I will support Islam, because that’s what liberals do.” Obviously that only works if the person in question knows nothing at all about Islam, but sadly that is the case for most Westerners (regardless of political persuasion).
But the main reason is something I call the “James Dean syndrome”. One thing all liberals have in common is that they never got over their adolescent angst – that is, rebellion against authority simply for the sake of rebellion makes you cool. Whether justifiably or not, in the minds of most liberals Christianity and Judaism are associated with “The Establishment”. Therefore, support for other religions = sticking it to the man = I’m cool.
This is why you will sometimes hear a liberal talk about Islamic violence against Christians or Jews (usually blaming the victims) but you will almost never hear a leftist mention jihad against Buddhists, Sikhs, or others. If there are no Christians or Jews to bash, liberals simply don’t have a dog in the fight.
carol says
The link below reveals more of the media’s slanted coverage:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-nationalist-rally-1.4263721 e.g.
1/ They article makes sure the group is labelled “FAR RIGHT” (a catch-all euphemism suggesting greatly that whatever the viewpoint it is sadly rigid and DISTORTED!!!)
2/ “large police presence…pitted against each other…emotions ran high” (yet only two were arrested – one for allegedly punching someone who’d almost shoved a sign in his face and the other one’s big Canadian crime-spree was to “breach the peace” (Ooooh! Is that as bad as a suicide bombing?).
3/ The Police Supe said police have “been doing their homework on EXTREMIST GROUPS!!!!!” (je means those “FAR RIGHTERS” of course, of course. You know, the ones who “fear” things like stoning, FGM, beheadings, welfare drains, constant battles over ‘religion’ and stealth invasion etc.)
4/ Then there’s a video showing the response of counter-protesters (guess what? these brilliant individuals won’t let Pegida be heard – they imitate mooing cows very well. Oh, the glory!)
5/ Jenny (Pegida) says “We’re here to give information”; Len (counter-protester) says ominously “There have been HATE GROUPS in London for a looong time!.. an awakening of the RIGHT and IT’S SCARY…we MUST stand up!!” (was Jenny and her talking points/pamphlets really ALL that scary?)
6/ “Before the rally, there had been a strong signal from the London community that HATRED AND RACISM WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.” (WOOF, WOOF went all the little sheeples)
7/ “This week, London’s city council passed a motion affirming that activities that promote hate would be banned in the city.” (Did they all graduate from York and will they model it on M-103 by that Khalid girl who still lives with her daddy?)
8/ “Several local politicians joined the counter-protesters” (they should have been the ones at home “doing their homework” – assuming they have the brains and integrity to know 1 +1 = 2 and dysfunctional Islam always ends up with the same evil results as its “winning” formula never changes.
mortimer says
Jihadi Justin is IN BED WITH THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
underbed cat says
M-103 silencing criticism of Islam, referring to any objections of sharia as hate speech, racism…especially since that is the method of operation which is called civil rights to restrict speech instead of value of life of the kuffar which is any non believer…If it passes JJ has plenty of fans which will not have a clue what’s coming. This arrest is dangerous for the people being arrested since the imams have effectively set out to prisons and jails for a support system, they should be separated. What in the world is going on with all this clever slight of hand of the mind dawah style.The liberal left people who think it is doing good by supporting M-103 think the terrorist are hijacking a religion have never read the Quran in my opinion.
mortimer says
Unread, unstudied and unaware regarding Sharia law and the history of Islamic conquest, the Leftards use ad hominems to defend their POWER which depends on the most illiberal group in the world today…the Muslim Brotherhood.
David says
https://youtu.be/GB1Dx5NplxY
Tarek Fatah Speech @M103 Seminar
Westman says
This was interesting though Fatah’s notion about resisting Shariah has hardened since. He is absolutely right that there must be a distinction between Muslims who demand Shariah and Muslims that reject it.
A blanket rejection of Islam will push many, who would have resisted Sharia, into the arms of the radicals and Caliphate romancers. However, I’d like to see some tools to make thst distinction.
Fatah also sees a conflict, “just below the surface”, in Europe that might break out into warfare and thinks minorities in Morocco should get out before it erupts.
If all Muslims were like Fatah, a self admitted Marxist, there wouldn’t be a problem because he sees an 8th century, stuck-in-stone Shariah, as unworkable in a nation-state that must have the flexibility to make new laws, change, or, remove obsolete law.
This guy should be imported to the US for public lectures to show there are forces inside Islam looking for democracy and integration.
Westman says
And I should add that Fatah sees the demand for Shariah as Islamofascism – a term we should carefully define and begin using to differentiate Shariah demanders from rational Muslims. The effect of this is a demanding a division between religion and state.
He finds it rather ingenuous that the Quran was compiled from many versions after the only person holding all the original oral “revelations” had died (giving the desired result) and then that had to be supported by generating later Hadith writings, which then had to supported by generating even later Sira writings. In other words, Muslims should reject Quranic teachings that are incompatible with democracy and Western laws if they intend to live in the West; because they are on shaky ground and will lead to warfare with the West.
As you might have guessed, the Mullahs have a price on his head.
Maxine says
Muslims Cannot coexists in a Western Culture! There a barbaric cult with all intent to take over the World. Kill every infidel, none believer who does not convert! If you think there is such a thing of modern Muslims or those who would reject Sharia law or there teachings that is a pipe dream. People need to wake up and put a stop to this madness. Europe has learned a damn thing with all the killings and now Canada’s Goverment is selling out out there Citizens to the take over of Muslims! I will never understand how people stand by and let leaders endanger there lives like this and do nothing. This is how Hitler killed millions. Muslims should all be sent back to there own homes and Cultures. How many need to die?
Westman says
I thought the same thing, Maxine, but I am no longer certain that is accurate. I can agree, without reservation, that Islam is the “mother lode of bad ideas” yet that is not sufficent reason to declare that EVERY Muslim is a danger to Western civilization.
On what basis do you equate Islam, the ideology, and all Muslims, as individual persons, to be one and the same? Are Christians all one and the same? Could we excuse ourselves if we told Christians they are all like Jim Jones, the Branch Davidians, or the Westboro Baptist church?
I have no problems with Muslims who reject Sharia and teachings that conflict with freedom; just as we recognize that Protestants who reject Catholicism are still Christians.
I’m agnostic and view all religions with skepticism without holding animosity toward their adherents just because I find the ideology absurd or reprehensible.
Frankly, if we judge all Muslims to be adherents of Shariah there are no solutions left to maintain Western civilization but war and genocide. I doubt wars with some Muslim groups can be avoided, regardless of imbecile elite desires to force Muslims on the West. Strict immigration controls must be maintained.
Hopefully we will avoid genocide by living to OUR creed of, all equal under the law.
Michael Copeland says
Muslims that reject Sharia are not muslims: they are apostates and are to be killed.
Islam is defined by its body of rules, drawn from its source texts. That body is Sharia.
“Sharia is Islam and Islam is Sharia …. Islam does not compromise.”
Fouad Belkacem, Sharia4Belgium
carol says
Perhaps Muslims can be induced to self-reflect and more accurately say: “I belong to a MALIGNANT religion”.
I believe this would help potential victims to qualify Islam properly e.g It’s most profound nature is merely a ruthless, narcissistic, SOCIAL/POLITICAL CLUB. Unfortunately those who think the term “religion” means “benevolence for all and the cultivation of character and conscience” WILL discover they are sadly confused and misguided where Islam is concerned.
In yoga ethics (Yama and Niyama) one does not advance spiritually unless their actions are compatible with their worthwhile strivings e.g. the Left should KNOW what the Right is doing.
gravenimage says
Westman wrote:
A blanket rejection of Islam will push many, who would have resisted Sharia, into the arms of the radicals and Caliphate romancers.
…………………..
Westman–with the greatest respect–this is the usual. That if Infidels dare criticize the horrors of Islam, that we are responsible for Jihad against us.
If a Muslim were *truly* moderate, why would he turn to Jihad if Islam is criticized?
People criticize Christianity, and Judaism, and Western civ all the time–and yet, adherents of these do not slaughter unbelievers as a result.
Jaladhi says
Welcome to Canadastan!
JawsV says
We can’t be anti-Islam? Why not? I’ve been anti-Islam since September 11, 2001.
Terry Gain says
Ditto. The choice is to be anti-Islam or Pro-Jihad and/or Pro Sharia. This is so because Jihad and Sharia are core Islamic doctrines.
gravenimage says
London, Ontario: Two people arrested at “anti-Islam” rally
………………..
Why were these people arrested? Did they commit actual crimes? Odd that the CBC did not give reasons as to the arrests–I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before in news coverage. Ominous…
dumbledoresarmy says
Gravenimage.
The other possibility is that they were NOT people attending the so-called ‘far right’ rally but, rather, badly-behaved persons *attacking* the rally.
There have been quite a few cases in the UK where an EDL rally has been *attacked* – not to put too fine a point on it – by the ‘Antifa’. And when one looks very carefully at the local-media reports, one can soon work out, reading between the lines, that it is the ‘Antifa’ who start the violence and the “Antifa’ who get arrested! I don’t know whether you recall ‘Granny Weatherwax’, an Englishwoman who is very much involved in the resistance to Islamisation, but she has *contacts* on the ground – she has gone and personally observed some of the EDL rallies – and she , or her friends, have *seen* exactly this. The *papers* will say “the ‘far right had a rally and two people were arrested’, which leaves the reader assuming that the people arrested were EDL members, etc… but in *fact* what happens is that the out-of-control Antifa people go just a bit too far, and the cops end up arresting them for assault/ throwing bottles/ bricks/ sticks etc.
gravenimage says
Actually, you could well be right, DDA–and I should have thought of that myself.
For instance, there have been numerous cases here where the headline read something like “Violence at Trump Rally”, and you are left to assume that it was violent Trump fans attacking people–then somewhere way below the fold it will come to light that those arrested were actually Leftists attacking Trump supporters.
Yes–those arrested may well have been “Antifa” thugs attacking Anti-Jihadists.
ed says
In Canada you live in a democracy not a republic .There is no idea of free speech in a democracy be it Canada, England .or the EU .
Terry Gain says
Wrong. Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the supreme law of the land. Freedom of speech is guaranteed. I am not saying that a left wing Judge might not apply the law.
Maxine says
Apparently was the law. Or the only ones protected by laws are the lefties. People who disagree with any of them have no rights.
Bev says
Canadians need to pull their head out of the sand. Islam is a political system that has no place in westernized society. Are Canadian women willing to become property of men? Do you want to be on your knees five times a day praying to kill the infidel, or do you want to pay a Jizzya (tax to coexist with the crazies). Do you want your little girls mutilated or sold off or married off as babies? Ya’ll better wake up and smell the coffee. The Jihad is headed your way.
t says
Believe me, Bev, the majority don’t want to wake up and smell the coffee!
I know that because I see it regulary, every time I try to warn people about the encroaching sharia and Islam’s threat.
Bob says
Amen T – see the election results in Germany…Merkel is still in control, and the influx will continue, because the truth hasn’t yet hit the majority.
Maxine says
So correct.
brane pilot says
The universal media branding of ‘far right’ to all individuals and groups who are not demonstrably ‘far left’ is a dishonest and Orwellian abuse of language. Many people branded as ‘far right’ find the positions of the actual far-right as objectionable as everyone else. Unfortunately, their crime of not being fully on board with the far left, useful idiot narrative of the mass media is to be lumped in with racists and Nazis whom they rightfully despise.
The mass media is engaged in a deliberate campaign to polarize society; presumably because that will create conflict, and conflict is ‘news’ that the media feeds upon. I was in California during the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, and it is a fact that the local media was playing an endlessly repeating loop of Rodney King being beaten by the police while the city burned. This is more of the same.
Frank Anderson says
I had an experience of being called both “far right” and “Nazi” when discussing the fundamental teachings of Islam. I was invited not to attend the meetings in the future because I might disturb the uninformed. It was a pleasure to move on and find more knowledgeable and thoughtful people for company. People who see themselves as “left” are following a “left/right” categorization that was either invented or popularized by Joseph Stalin. Please see Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg for better and more complete explanation. There seem to be many blind, deaf and dumb suicidal people among us. I’m not one of them; and I don’t think the vast majority of readers here are either.
t. says
“There seem to be many blind, deaf and dumb suicidal people among us”
Absolutely true, Frank!
Frank Anderson says
T, I see at least 2 things to do in this situation:
1. Do not allow ourselves to give up or discredit ourselves by any illegal conduct.
2. Do what we can to help others understand, recognizing those who are beyond help, and moving on to those who are not.
I would not waste time, resources and frustration trying to deal with evil, brain-dead people who side with pedophiles. . . . .There are millions of people who just don’t know. “It is better to light one candle that to curse the darkness.” Catholic teaching. Every person we can help understand is another candle in a very dark world.
Wellington says
So much of this garbage, this erosion of liberty in Canada, has been on Pierre Trudeau’s “watch.”
This should NEVER be forgotten by Canadians who still prize freedom or by any in the West who prize the same.
The sin upon Trudeau’s head forever for this. He really is the Canadian equivalent of America’s Obama.
And if this does not serve as condemnation to someone, that someone is, at best, clueless, at worst, malevolent.
carol says
Trudope is probably just a garden variety malignant narcissist – too over-the-top and impervious.
Jim says
https://globalnews.ca/news/3767902/assault-charge-laid-against-man-arrested-during-london-pegida-canada-rally/?utm_source=AM980London&utm_medium=Facebook
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’ll wait to see who was arrested. Odds are they were antifa who were causing trouble.
dumbledoresarmy says
That was *my* very first suspicion – *especially* since bland passive voice was used, with an absence of detail.
Anne Smith says
The stupid noisy teenager on the train was merely exhibiting the classic symptoms of the indoctrination which is currently in full swing in all our colleges and schools in UK and it seems in Canada also. Three cheers for the English woman who read her the Riot Act.
From a terrifying speech given by the former Lib Dem leader, Clegg, last week, it would seem that these snowflakes are just waiting for our generation to die out and then they will be able to do as they please. No doubt this includes flooding the UK with more Muslims and destroying our Judaeo-Christian heritage.
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Suebe Hatz says
Canada is about to become the middleeast of the West. Watch and see how many Canadians are jailed. Canada is about to lose the liberal rights they once had. Little do they know, whatever rights they did have will be gone. Goodbye Canada, you have sold your soul to the devil himself.
Suebe Hatz says
How come I can no longer post anything It keeps saying it is a duplicate post and I have not posted anything
Suebe Hatz says
I see if I say anything against a certain religion you tube will not post it. No freedom of speech on you tube either
Frank Anderson says
SH, youtube is a private forum. It is difficult but possible to force them to afford Constitutional free speech, because they may be a “public accommodation”. See Katzenbach v. McClung, 379 U.S. 294 (Ala. 1964).
Please consult a currently licensed and practicing attorney in your jurisdiction for legal advice.
Jacinte Lamothe says
I read the article and it says that Police agrees that people can have opinions and freedom of expression. They say that the rally went well and people behaved for the most part. Pegida is a legitimate group that represents most Canadians. So why were 2 people arrested? It appears that the ones arrested were conservatives or as they call them, from the right? I am convinced that the people arrested were the ones who were illegally at the rally, the ones in favour of sharia law.
Jacinte Lamothe says
Correction of the last sentence. I am convinced that the people “who should have been arrested” were the ones who were illegally at the rally, the ones in favour of sharia law.
JawsV says
WHY were they arrested? That’s what I want to know.
dumbledoresarmy says
I followed the original link. There was a link to another report.
Here’s a quote from part of that – “One man was taken into custody after allegedly punching **a counter-protester who had pushed a sign toward his face.**
Police said a second person was arrested for a breach of peace. As of Saturday afternoon, no charges had been laid.”
So: one of those nice, sweet ‘counter-protesters’ “pushed a sign toward” someone’s face. Anyone want to bet that it was in fact an attempt to HIT someone.. in the face? I’d like to know how big and heavy the sign was; was it on a pole? In *response*, the person with the PEGIDA rally hit out. But it is quite possible that the person swung their arm in order to fend off the ‘sign’ that was being shoved in their face (it would be interesting to know whether there is any video footage of this incident) and *happened* to hit the person wielding the sign/ pole.
The *affiliation* of the *second* person arrested, for ‘breach of the peace’, is not given. That suggests to *me* that it was one of the zealous defenders of Islam, rather than one of the PEGIDA lot Because if the arrestee *was* one of the PEGIDA rally-goers, I am absolutely certain that CBC would have identified him / her as such.
Vlad Tepes says
It is worth following up on this. There is a high probability that the people arrested were from a communist counter-demo group like ANTIFA, as that is what typically happens. The media appears to be trying to misrepresent it as if it was PEGIDA people arrested, without actually saying so. This is similar to the Guardian’s headline about not banning a meeting by far right wing Islam hate group, “Act for America”, which would be better and more accurately described as, “A classical liberal group concerned about the loss of America’s 1st amendment rights and protection for all under rule of law”.
It would surprise me if it was PEGIDA people arrested for what they say. But that, most certainly, is coming. Debate on creating legislation around the wording of M103 reminds us of the Chicago conspiracy trials. There is only one way it can turn out.
dumbledoresarmy says
My advice to Canadian PEGIDA, and to *any* persons *anywhere* in the west who set out to hold a rally against Sharia/ Jihad/ Islamisation – or more broadly, in favour of freedom of speech, etc: always, always, always have a number of trusted people who do not actually walk or stand with the demonstrators but, rather, discreetly observe and record both video and audio – and still photographs – of the event, from a safe distance. (Sus out the proposed rally location well beforehand, and identify good vantage points). Such people should go in mufti, as ordinary curious members of the public. That way, you will have your *own* record of events. DO NOT edit this material; keep it ‘raw’. The still photographs should be taken with a view to accurately gauging numbers of persons present, both on *your* side and on the opposition side.
I would also encourage persons taking part, to have small and preferably concealed bodycams of some kind, so that if they *are* attacked it will be quite clear *who* threw the punch/ brick/ rock or shoved with a heavy support-pole of a protest sign.
Frank Anderson says
DDA, EXCELLENT suggestions. Remember, under federal law, 18 United States Code Section 2511 (c) and (d), a “party” has the complete right under federal law to record any conversation. Obviously “parties” include speaker and hearer; but less obviously and almost certainly subject to argument, any witness to the event, Violation of free speech rights and particularly the right and DUTY to aid enforcement of federal law (In re Quarles, 158 U.S. 532 (1895)) , particularly when state officers are involved, is a federal crime; Which makes clear to any reasonable person that federal law controls. “[Federal law] shall be the supreme law of the land and the judges of every state shall be bound thereby; anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.” Article 6 Clause 2 (The Supremacy Clause) United States Constitution. “A state cannot enforce any rule of law whether common (judge made) or statutory which violates federal law.” New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (Ala. 1964), NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware, 458 U.S. 886 (Miss. 1983). The only reason that state laws regarding “sanctuary cities and now states” and illegal drugs exist is that no federal prosecutor is allowed to arrest and jail for corruption in office and obstruction of justice all who are involved in passing the legislation and enforcing the illegal orders.
A number of states have passed statutes that purport to limit recording of criminal conduct without obtaining permission of those being recorded, completely contrary to 18 USC Section 2511.. The failure to raise the FEDERAL law early in the state prosecution could lead to a waiver of the argument at later stages and invite long, expensive hassle instead of the much deserved and warranted bar and criminal prosecution of the prosecutor, complaining witness and corrupt enforcement officers. See, e.g. State of North Carolina v. Mike Nifong and many related cases. STATE law cannot override federal law if challenged at the right time and in the correct argument..
As always, please consult a currently licensed and practicing attorney in your jurisdiction for legal advice. My comment is written in order to perform the duty to provide non-lawyers information concerning their rights and duties with reference to counsel for legal advice.
Screeminmeeme says
“Stay quiet and you’ll be okay.”……..Mohamed Atta, 911 terrorist.
Same LIE that is being told to those in the West who are opposing the Islamization of their countries.
dumbledoresarmy says
I came across this later report, which includes some interesting information. There are *some* quite naive and decent people among the ‘peace’ ‘protesters’ who have little or no idea of just how dangerous their fellow travellers are.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-police-no-charges-following-weekend-protest-pegida-1.4265112
Excerpt:
“Teresa Tarasewicz, co-owner of City Lights Bookstore, said she was walking through the crowd when a man shoved a woman from PEGIDA into a mailbox.
“It was a full body blow,” Tarasewicz said. “I shielded her with my body, turned to him, put my hand out and told him to back off, with some swearing attached to it.”
‘Tarasewicz said the man appeared to be a bit of a loan [sic: lone] wolf (suuure he was – dda). “He seemed to really enjoy escalating the violence.”
‘She helped the female PEGIDA protester up and walked her back to a safe zone.
“And we just looked at each other. We (were) on opposing sides and we hugged… and …just kind of hung out a little bit,” said Tarasewicz.”
More:
“Another counter-protester, John Densky, a London-based photojournalist, said he also observed a lot of yelling and heated conversation between the two sides.
“Densky said it concerned him because “we can’t threaten these people out of our communities.”
He said he thought the far-right protesters managed to stay composed, despite being outnumbered by about 10 to 1.”
THAT suggests very strongly that the rabble-rousers and aggressors were primarily among the so-called ‘peace’ ‘activists’.
gravenimage says
Thank you for that, DDA.
This is a big part of the problem–that thugs like Antifa are hiding among clueless but well meaning people.
dumbledoresarmy says
Further advice to PEGIDA Canada: try to get in touch with a First Nations (Metis) bloke called Ryan Bellerose. Get him as a guest speaker.
Also, next time, make sure you have some good traditional Canadian songs – both in French and in English – that you all know and can sing.
John A. Marre says
Trudeau has decided that Islam is the future of Canada. To make this happen, he has to throw in prison any normal person who complains about the rapes, throat slashings, bombings and murders and who won’t voluntarily submit to the new Islamic fascism.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Right, “Canada is a work in progress”!
few different meanings there for sure, but perhaps sharia is a stop along the way to achieving his utopia?
carol says
Translation: He’s “slapping a job” on us.
Ewanda says
Hey Dhimmi women – wake up!! For Mohammad to be right the smartest woman is half as smart as the dumbest man!! Do you really believe that? Then you are destined to be conquered and subdued without a whimper. Now is the time to quickly get educated to the 1400 year Islamic Self-Determination and stem the relentless flow.
America rescued Europe, America rescued the Pacific, America rescued people from Soviet Communism. When America is gone who will be the rescuers? Where in the world will you flee to when there is no more West? Fight to regain free speech. Fight to defeat M-103. Support those that stand in the breech and join them..
It is important for woman to become pro-active because it is we who are most negatively affected by Islam and we have the most to lose.
Ewanda says
The best and quickest way to get educated is to view any presentation by Kamal Saleem on youtube. Eyes will be opened.
In the meantime we must insist that anyone arrested for negative speech towards Islam has to insist that all proceedings are televised and open to the public to attend and that the defendant has the opportunity to call expert witnesses of their choice to testify. maybe this is the way that judges and prosecutors will become educated …. and I mean experts like Spencer, Warner, Saleem, Geller, Guandolo, Lopez. Dakdok, Solomon, Wood, etc.
Maxine says
I think Judges and Prosecutes are all educated..All have sold out for one reason or a other..Nwo, Follow the money trail.
gravenimage says
No–a lot of them are as clueless as are ordinary dhimmis.
Assuming that while so many are obviously ignorant that those in the legal field are all knowledgeable but just evil makes no sense.
Politicianaphobia says
Latest credible poll shows Conservatives ahead by 8 points. Good bye, good bye, good bye good bye.