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London Tube: IED detonated on rush hour train, police say it’s terrorism

Sep 15, 2017 8:37 am By Robert Spencer

More militant Methodists? Possibly. But there is a chance that another group that is often identified by Western authorities as having nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism may be involved.

“London Tube: ‘Improvised explosive device’ detonated on rush hour train,” by Laura Smith-Spark, Erin McLaughlin and Nina dos Santos, CNN, September 15, 2017:

London (CNN)A rush-hour blast caused by an improvised explosive device on a London Underground train which injured 22 people is being treated as terrorism by London’s Metropolitan Police.
None of the injured are thought to be in a serious or life-threatening condition, according to the London Ambulance Service.

The blast occurred at about 8:20 a.m. local time (3:20 a.m. ET) Friday on a busy commuter line into central London.

“We now assess that this was a detonation of an improvised explosive device,” Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said at a press conference Friday.

Most of the injuries appear to be the result of flash burns, he said.

Asked by a reporter if police had any information on the perpetrator, Rowley said: “It’s a live investigation.”

Hundreds of detectives are working on the inquiry with the support of Britain’s domestic intelligence service, MI5.

A British security source who has been briefed on the investigation told CNN that a timer was found on the device. It’s clear the device was intended to cause much greater damage, the source said, but cautioned that the investigation is still in its preliminary stages.

Downing Street tweeted a message from Prime Minister Theresa May, saying: “My thoughts are with those injured at Parsons Green and emergency services who are responding bravely to this terrorist incident.”

May will chair an emergency COBRA meeting on Friday to discuss the incident, Downing Street said.

Parsons Green station is closed, a large security cordon has been put in place and large numbers of emergency responders, including armed police officers, are at the scene.

“Suddenly, there was this boom,” eyewitness Gustavo Vieira told CNN. “Everyone shouting and screaming… We were just leaving the carriage [when the explosion happened]… Just heard and everyone starting running… And I didn’t look back.”…

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  1. Charles says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 8:42 am

    I still do NOT understand why islam isn’t banned. Why all non-citizen muslims are not just deported. And why known isis fighters are not stopped at the border or jailed!
    Just a few common sense measures could save hundreds of lives!
    What is wrong with political “leaders” in the UK????
    What is happening is sheer madness!

    • Pete says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 8:50 am

      The reason you do see real proactive solutions

      Is simply that they want England destroyed
      It is purposeful take over

      The reasons are many
      None are valid really its a form of suicide by those who control

      • Kesselman says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 10:08 am

        It’s willful and on purpose. Other explanations seem too far-fetched. The Left/Liberal are usually slammed as stupid – maybe they are to some degree, but my bet is that they are so boring and full of self-hate that they prefer the big catastrophe.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        I believe that you left the word “not” out of your first sentence!

    • Infidel numero uno says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 9:00 am

      I, too, I am puzzled by the willingness of politicians to kowtow to the heinous acts perpetrated by this horrible cult. It’s Europe wide and completely unfathomable. It appears there is a collective Deathwish among those in control

      • Budvarakbar says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 12:49 pm

        Same in WA DC

    • rufluc says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 9:40 am

      Yes I fully agree Charles. So WHY isn’t Islam being designated as a ‘hate group’ and banned from the West due to their covert and open hatred towards anyone who isn’t a Muslim. And how are the loony left readily able to pin that ‘label’ on anything or anyone who try to oppose their insane and traitorous intentions too?
      Antifa & BLM groups are full of hatred too. Hate towards Christians & Jews. Hate for Western culture. Hate towards white people. Hate for democracy. Hate of free speech and hate for all of our freedoms and liberties. They are an evil scourge that are slowly eating away at our societies, and they are doing this on the back of Political Correctness and everyones fear of being labelled a racist.
      Because our societies have been ‘mind screwed’ by the unrelenting left wing attack on the majorities natural patriotic views and desires to live among their own, white people mainly have now been made to feel guilty about their natural desires. We are all being fed the ‘multicultural, white genocide, anti Christian’ medicine of the left, who are now managing to ‘mind screw’ the authorities into supporting their obnoxious heinous agenda.
      This latest situation with Trump and Charlottesville is a prime example. They back you into a corner, and if you don’t comply with their ‘self righteous’ demands, they riot, yell and go publicly insane spewing their accusations of racism, bigotry and Islamophobia for all to see and hear. That is their modus operandi. Like simple minded children, like they are, throwing a tantrum until they get their own way.
      This is the mentality we are up against! And because there are now so many laws that protect immigrants and their ‘religious’ beliefs, the authorities are now unable to do what they really need to do (unless it comes under the guise of ‘terrorism….that is until the left get that changed too).
      All these laws need to be repealed. But can you honestly ever see that happening while so many of the electorate, as well as our Liberal and Labour MPs, remain under the widespread left wing spell of self loathism, and fear of being labelled……a racist??? Sadly, I can’t.

      • Angus says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm

        It’s probably too late already.

        The large amount of muslims already imported won’t be voting the useful idiots out of power anytime soon…

        unless it’s to vote in more muslim politicians like the London Mayor.

    • ahem says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 11:56 am

      They’re terrified.

    • PRCS says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 1:31 pm

      1. Because, in the U.S., the First Ammendment prevents that.
      2. Whether here or abroad, it can’t be “banned” from the minds of a billion+ people.
      3. Destroying every copy of the Qur’an–everywhere–isn’t going to happen.
      4. It’s not going to be banned from the Internet.

      A better approach, if you will, is to help our friends and neighbors learn the truth about Islam’s teachings.

      This event (The Last Day of Silence) is scheduled for 9-23:

      • PRCS says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 1:48 pm

        Was responding to Charles.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 15, 2017 at 2:40 pm

          I completely agree, PRCS. Banning Islam is not the right approach. Rather, properly identifying Islam as the one major religion which is spiritual fascism and thus a mortal enemy of freedom (much as Nazism and Marxism are, except these two are examples of secular fascism) is the correct way to proceed. Exposure, not banning, should be the imperative of imperatives here.

        • PRCS says

          Sep 15, 2017 at 7:58 pm

          I’m keeping my eyes open and my ears tuned to the Last Day of Silence event, and hoping it accomplishes at least some of that.

          Looks promising.

      • Karen says

        Sep 17, 2017 at 9:28 am

        I will follow this with great interest. Wishing them all success.

    • James says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      Seems to me there is a strong antecedent presumption that this is – yet again – a nice prezz from the ROP. And that nothing on Earth will persuade the authorities that the ROP is responsible, even when it is.

      Since the atrocities of the ROP are not acknowledged by govt. to be the work of the ROP, *maybe* there is a deliberate govt. strategy of refusing to acknowledging their crimes as their crimes, so as to make them despair of having the effect they want to have. That might be rather cunning, albeit callous and immoral. That may sound far-fetched, but I don’t think it is out of the question.

    • Jayell says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 2:29 pm

      The logical answer would be to ban muslims from all public transport since they’ve proved time and time again that they’re totally untrustworthy. Now the big question – how is one supposed to enforce it? Impossible? We wouldn’t know, since no-one seems to have suggested the idea so far.

    • Sons of Liberty says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      Charles , as Michael Savage once said ” Liberalism is MENTAL ILLNESS ” . Unfortunately , they infest our government and the ones in Europe , excluding Poland, Slovakia , Hungary and the Czech Republic who BLOCK MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING !

    • James says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 5:25 pm

      The latest news:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/isis-london-attack-bomb-tube-parsons-green-terror-claims-responsibility-latest-news-updates-a7949681.html

      Nothing do with iSlime, obviously.

    • paul says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 5:34 am

      Racist! They are just practicing their religion, which requires you to die.. ISLAMOPHOBE! What would Justin Trudeau or Merkel say about you???

      • CoastalSue says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 11:30 am

        “They are just practicing their religion, which requires you to die.”

        You summed it up perfectly.

    • Bob says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 6:13 am

      The same ‘madness’ has infected the western politicos, generally, not only ours’ in the UK! The world is populated increasingly, according to them, with people from the middle east suffering from ‘mental problems’!

    • Anne says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      Totally agree!

  2. marina says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 8:49 am

    What have the politicians done after the last Manchester attack? Sharia May did say she will get tough on terror. But so far nothing has been done. Meanwhile the innocents will pay the price.

    • PRCS says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 1:35 pm

      But, Sharia May did send this message to ALL Muslims, around the world (which would obviously include the Muslims who keep bombing London):

      • Wellington says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 2:44 pm

        Oh brother. What a useful idiot she is. Sickening.

        • James says

          Sep 15, 2017 at 5:53 pm

          “Red Jezza” Corbyn is far worse.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 15, 2017 at 6:58 pm

          James: Yes, I agree. And which is so instructive of just how much the present British ruling class is failing the British nation since, God knows, Sharia May is bad enough.

          The slow suicide of Britannia continues. Profoundly, almost inexpressibly, sad. It is a tragedy of the first dimension unfolding before our eyes.

          Damn stupid and useless too. And waiting in the wings, licking its metaphorical chops (though not of the pork variety), is that parasite of parasites————-Islam.

        • Anne Smith says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 6:21 am

          Perhaps one of the clearest examples of Lenin’s “useful idiot”.

      • mortimer says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 2:47 pm

        Theresa May has not read the primary, source texts of Islam, and yet, preposterously, she presents herself as an UNREAD and UNSTUDIED instant expert on Islam. Her pretension to know about Islam is absurd and her failure to study the JIHAD DOCTRINE is CULPABLY NEGLIGENT.

        Theresa May should be condemn for her abandonment of DUTY to learn about Islam.

      • Sons of Liberty says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 4:57 pm

        This woman is AN IDIOT . A total ignoramus WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM . Muhammad said ” I have been made victorious THROUGH TERROR ” ! The UK is DOOMED . I just hope we can WAKE UP ENOUGH AMERICANS to stop this from happening here, …or we ARE DOOMED AS WELL.

      • Aloha Akbar says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 8:51 am

        It is fitting that she is wearing such a big chain around her neck.
        A gift from her islamofascist masters?

    • Andy says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      Idiots React to London Underground Attack

    • paul says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 5:39 am

      Thats where they arrest YOU as an islamophobe

  3. jewdog says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 8:53 am

    These are self-inflicted injuries, entirely preventable consequences of British immigration folly.

    • PRCS says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 1:40 pm

      Immigration without integration.

      Immigration into the country of people whose religion’s goal is to subject all mankind under the hegemony of Islamic law.

      The failure of the government to publicly admit that.

      • mortimer says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 2:52 pm

        Agree. Governments are culpably negligent. By not warning us, they put us at greater risk and no one calls the authorities when they see something suspicious for fear of being accused of ‘racism’, even though Islam is an IDEOLOGY and not a race.

      • paul says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 5:40 am

        invasion without integration. The barbarians are at the gate

        • Carolyne says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 11:39 am

          The barbarians are inside the gate.

      • Anne Smith says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 6:13 am

        Not so much immigration as invasion.

    • Sons of Liberty says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 5:07 pm

      Well , we are heading down the VERY SAME PATH , as Britain ! Our State Department IS STILL BRINGING IN MUSLIMS from Kenya , to get around Trump’s ban . American immigration FOLLY . Did we learn NOTHING from 9/11 ? Apparently so , because we are bringing in potential jihadists APPROVED BY THE UN . If that is not unconstitutional ,…what is …

  4. David Munson says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 8:57 am

    Jihadis are constantly testing to see how authorities handle emergencies. This appears to be a poorly made IED. The constant attacks by muslims/ jihadis should be a warning to authorities. This will not stop.

  5. todaytonight says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Jumma mubarak!

  6. Anti-jihad says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:05 am

    I heard that ISIS in Syria is now down to controlling only about 15% of the country. The vast majority of the “Syrian refugees” could be sent back because ISIS isn’t the clear and present danger it once was. Assad is still in power in Syria, but he’s Muslim, so the “refugees” can deal with his regime. Leave them in Syria if they dislike the West so much. Let them figure it out. Everything isn’t the West’s problem.

    • jewdog says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 9:43 am

      Sure, but northern Europe has much better welfare benefits than Syria so I doubt anyone will go willingly.

      • PRCS says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 1:42 pm

        They only go willingly–on vacation.

  7. Santa Voorhees says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:09 am

    Anna Soubry: “Muslims could ‘teach white British people many a good thing’

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4454603/white-brits-could-learn-a-lot-from-muslim-communities-and-help-make-the-country-a-better-place-tory-mp-claims/

    No, sorry Anna, civilized people don’t want to learn how to blow up children at pop concerts or mowing down random people with trucks.

    Meanwhile…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZSII3qADI

    I wonder if that man is still alive…

    • PRCS says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 1:50 pm

      That video:

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 6:58 pm

        Impressive.

        Too bad this guy isn’t in charge of the Ummah. He sounds like he has one step out the door of darkness into the Light.

        Only 1,699,999,999 more to go.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 11:56 am

      How could uncivilized, barbarian, misogynist Muslims teach civilized people anything? How to decapitate? How to throw people off buildings? How to treat sex slaves? How to marry and rape little girls? How to build more effective bombs? Is she insane?

  8. PABLO says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Can’t wait for all the water carriers to lecture us on how “Muslims” fear of backlash. “Muslims” are always the victims never the victimizers.

  9. mortimer says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:31 am

    IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID!

    181 jihad attacks; 1016 killed; 1090 wounded; 34 bombings; attacks occurred in 32 countries.

    There are 3 killed by jihad attacks every day of the year. ARE ALL OF THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS WHO ARE READY TO GIVE UP THEIR LIVES TRULY ‘INSANE’, or is Islam’s ideology to blame?

    To those patrons of the London Underground who went to stare at a BURNING BOMB, I must say, “NEXT TIME, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THE BOMB, UNLESS YOU ARE A BOMB DISPOSAL EXPERT.”

  10. Vic says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 9:44 am

    An excerpt from Pam Geller’s post from Sept 4, 2017 introducing Salem Ben Ammar as France’s lone Islam-watchdog guarding the West…

    Dateline, Paris, France – 2017: Introducing Salem Ben Ammar – a legend of a man in the narrow intellectual circles of the lucid and the sober-minded intellects of not only France but the West in general. This author and political expert has been holding a vigil about Islam and the danger that Muslims as Muslims pose to the West. The LEFT has been trying to tell you all these years that the term “Muslim” is a meaningless label for just another boring religious artifact (like Christianity) left over from a dead past which we are not supposed to take in as a symbol for something powerful and important in World History .. but only as a meaningless phrase to be employed as a stone with which to break the teeth of Western patriots defending against Muslims-qua-promoters-of-Islam, those patriotic loyalists who are called any name under the sun drawn from the ledger of liberal taboos, such as “bigots” and “racists”.

    Here are a few facts about the eminent thinker of our times, Salem Ben Ammar: He is a consultant-trainer, ex-union representative for the C.G.T union’s education-training program. C.G.T. stands for “Confédération Générale du Travail” (General Alliance of Work). Doctor of Political Science. Graduate in Social Anthropology and International Relations. Author of “Introduction to the Ethnology of Muslim Commercial Communities in India” and “For a New Contribution to the Study of International Relations: the J.O. Mirror of International Society“. He is a son of a North African man who proudly wore the uniform of the French army for 32 years and the grand-nephew of a hairy poet who died for France in 1918. Above all, Salem Ben Ammar is a practical man with years of experience in dealing with actual problems that low middle-class workers have to deal with. However, the power of his mind made him look beyond his own immediate surroundings to be able to understand relations between people in other areas internationally. He is a man with a worldview.

    On his blog web page there are numerous poignant and truthful insights about Islam and the danger that Islamists or Muslim activists pose to France, Europe, and the West in general. On the page that I selected for this post I found some excellent insights that I wished to share with our audiences because they express genuine thoughts and not any propaganda whatsoever. You be the judge, of course. He is very well read about the subject of Islam and the holy book of the Quran itself. His opinion and his conclusions (some of which are provisional) are not dependent upon the newspaper headlines or the cable news announcements. He is the kind of independent thinker for whom the word “university” was originally invented in the old West when universal knowledge was intended for self-reliant thinkers drawing upon the store of their own acquired knowledge and inherited experience.

    TO ERADICATE THE MUSLIM DANGER THE QURAN MUST BE PROHIBITED
    Perhaps I am wrong not to believe in the non-violent virtues of Islam, but I look for those reassuring and appeasing words in the lexicography of the Quran – but, alas for me – for I have found nothing?!

    This image that some of us have – restored to us from the Islamic source itself is only a faithful translation of the warrior vocabulary and racist, anti-Semitic, intolerant, ethnocentric, supremacist, ultra-hateful, inhuman thought of the Qur’an. What is the humanist and pacifist message of the Qur’an?

    Is it the Surah of the Fatiha [the first chapter of the Qur’an – a prayer for the guidance, lordship and mercy of God], the introduction, which announces at the outset the colors of the faith or that of the Surah of the Cow [the longest chapter of the Qur’an – A major theme is guidance: urging the pagans (Al-Mushrikeen) and the Jews of Medina to embrace Islam, and warning them and the hypocrites of their punishment], the most important in terms of volume in the Qur’an? Of the two things, either the Muslims recognize that the Qur’an is an ultra-violent manifesto and renounce it for their good and ours or we must prohibit the Qur’an whatever the price. The true cause of terrorism is the Qur’an itself.

    There is no religious radicalism, there is the implementation of the Qur’anic precepts by believers who have understood the true meaning of the word “Muslim”. There can not be an Islam without the strict application of the Qur’an nor a Muslim who compromises on its teaching. A radical Muslim is simply a Muslim imbued with the reading of the Qur’an and must translate it into action. He must not understand or interpret it. He is a good soldier who must execute the orders in the given case or circumstance, those so-called divine orders of his.

    (Original article published in French: Pour éradiquer le péril musulman il faut interdire le Coran)

  11. Westman says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 10:03 am

    After determining the perpetrators there will be someone involved whose name is a derivative of “Muhammad”. Of course, that is a sure sign that the bombing has nothing to do with, The Religion Of Peace(TROP). Westerners are catching on that Islam is de trop.

    And as May says: “My thoughts are with those injured at Parsons Green and emergency services who are responding bravely to this terrorist incident.” Considering that, after Brexit, she no longer must answer to the EU(Germany & Brussels) she hasn’t acted bravely to stop terrorists from entering the UK. However, May will “sit in a chair” during an emergency COBRA meeting on Friday “to discuss the incident,”

    Sitting in a chair, discussing. How about cussing and actually taking action?

  12. David M says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 11:40 am

    Londoners got lucky this time as the bomb didn’t explode properly, luckily nobody killed. No doubt Sadiq Khan will come out & say “carry on, it’s all part of living in a big city.” I bet he goes home after his statements & has a good laugh to himself how stupid all the kafirs in England are.

  13. Errol says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 11:42 am

    This is what happens when you allow a backwards, destructive and poisonous religion (Islam) that follows the illogical and irrational barbaric teachings of a deluded maniac to infiltrate and strive in western countries. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would know that the so-called religion of peace is incompatible with western values and should be eradicated from all western countries. After all, if we do not eradicate this particular religion it will eventually eradicate us.

  14. mariam rove says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    This was bound to happen again. Sooner or later. The solution that the Brits have for this problem is to keep importing them. M

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 12:15 pm

      And bringing bouquets to commemorate the spot where the bomb detonated. A lot of good, that does.

  15. Voytek Gagalka says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    First what authorities will do now is to make sure that Islam and Mohammedans at large are shielded from sharing ANY responsibility for that what happened. Be absolutely certain of that! And so, if indeed this was done by some “Mohammed” or “Ahmed” or “Abdullah” – old song of “lone wolf attack,” with possible dose of “insanity” will be rehearsed and play ad infinitum. If that would not work, then any critic of official PC policy will be called “bigot,” “islamophobe” and “racist” for daring to think otherwise. Finally, Trump will be guilty of it all, and that will conclude epic multicultural symphony. Yeah, we know that even before it even starts!

  16. Wellington says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Just one more beastly event by the beast who was stupidly invited into the West and who is quite determined to destroy the West. We will now hear shortly from people like Theresa May how the beast is not a beast even though he is quite clearly a most ravenous beast. It’s all very Orwellian.

    • mariam rove says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      And I am waiting for Don Lemon and the rest PC POS talk about the backlash against Muslims. M

      • Wellington says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 1:04 pm

        Ah yes, mr, the backlash against the poor dears. That’s what is really important.

  17. Guest says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Look the police admitting it’s terrorism

    • AnneM says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 1:18 pm

      A good start.

      • PRCS says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 1:47 pm

        Much better if they called it jihad.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 1:23 pm

          Agreed.

          Time to retire the “Global War on Terror” title too.

          Counterjihad, Islamic War, or WWIII is more befitting.

      • Yokel says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 7:32 am

        @ AnneM

        Disagree.
        Until they say it is Islamic terrorism they have a tool for further imposition of restrictions and surveillance on everyone.

  18. meeth says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    “PART AND PARCEL!!!! of living in a big city”

    • Santa Voorhees says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 7:38 pm

      Funny how the largest city on this planet did not experience islamic terrorism at all. How could that be?

  19. DP111 says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    Nothing to do with Islam.

    So lets bring in more Muslims so we can even more rapes of young girls.

    • Santa Voorhees says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 7:50 pm

      “Please don’t stop importing terrorists, because that will play right on the hands of Isis, so keep importing terrorists”.

      Liberal logic. And to even call this “logic” is pretty much outrageous to say the least.

  20. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    Sadly another Islamic terror attack had occurred on the London underground tube [train] . Likewise another jihad –minded Muslim was following the Instruction of the “holy book” of Islam, the Quran, which instructs in vicious jihad violence. As, for example,, seen in Surah 9:123. Which teaches “O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you.” The planting of the I.E.D in the London Tube is a very effective way of showing people who are not Muslims “harshness.” Islam a “peaceful religion?” Nonsense!

  21. Daniel Triplett says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Suppose every American has expert-level knowledge of Islam. What next? Is it enough to simply understand the problem?

    Was it enough when nearly all Americans understood the Nazi and Imperial Japanese threats? No.

    Eliminating those threats required a massive amount of kinetic violence. And a whole lot of sacrifice too, pre-Hiroshima.

    So, why does anyone think knowledge alone will solve the problem now? Will the jihad and hijrah stop just because we educate ourselves about it? Will the Koran change? Will Muslims stop wanting to convert and kill us? Will they stop wanting to conquer the World?

    Remember, Nazis and Imperial Japanese were far more reasonable and rational than the Ummah. Diplomacy failed; words didn’t work. I don’t understand how on Earth anyone thinks we can eliminate the Islamic threat without a violent solution.

    • PRCS says

      Sep 15, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      A military response to an attack by a Muslim nation is one thing, but the public won’t sign on to the need for a violent, preemptive military solution–over there–until they first recognize the reason that might be necessary and the goal.
      Given that so many of our friend’s and neighbors remain ignorant about Islam’s teachings–or refuse to believe what it’s texts state–that’s not going to happen.
      Expert-level knowledge of Islam isn’t needed, of course, but they do need to first “understand the problem”.

      the first step toward that solution just isn’t going to happen.

      acknowledge what actually drives violent jihad.

      Given the public’s woeful ignorance of Islam,

      • PRCS says

        Sep 15, 2017 at 9:53 pm

        Forgot to delete the last three lines.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 1:16 am

        I agree that an information/education campaign is overdue for the Infidels of Kaffir nuke states, along with an Alliance, as a prerequisite to a global military campaign. And this can only come straight from the CINC.

        In my opinion, with 9/11, thousands of Islamic attacks, and N Korea and Iran threatening us with loaded guns, any strike we make now would be defensive rather than preemptive. However, that would be a tough sell for most.

        Most don’t have a clue about the depth and gravity of this threat. If/when everyone does learn and get spun-up, a global military campaign is unavoidable if our objective is to eliminate the threat for posterity. Words didn’t even work on our own people in the South. Ultimately, the only way to force our Will on the CSA was through violence and cruelty.

        “War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”
        –Gen William T. Sherman

        • PRCS says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 9:25 am

          Sherman was correct, of course.

          The spin-up is the problem.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 1:13 pm

          I agree, Daniel, that knowledge alone is not enough, just as goodness without courage is not enough either, but I would vigorously maintain that the “knowledge part” must come first. Without this, you can pretty much forget the rest.

          Should Islam, as it so deserves, finally be recognized OVERWHELMINGLY as a negative, say along the lines of the KKK (and why not since Islam wants to set up a Jim Crow system a la the KKK wherever it can except it would be along belief lines rather than racial ones), then all kinds of positives will flow from this——scorn, marginalization, ostracizing, mockery, very possibly a mass exodus from Mo’s creed, a total immigration ban, new legal and constitutional actions and so on. Yes, military initiatives, as you have frequently and understandably mentioned, may very well be necessary but UNTIL Islam is accurately seen for the spiritual fascism which it is, at best a tactical victory here or there will occur and nothing more.

          Always good to read your posts. I assure you that you and I are very much on the same page where Islam is concerned. Take care. And again thank you for your service to the greatest country ever formed by man.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 3:43 pm

          @PRCS @Wellington

          Thank you for your thoughtful and considerate replies Gentlemen.

          I’m glad to see we’re exactly on the same page.

          I always look forward to learning from your brutally honest posts as well. Thank you both for your service to America. Serving America has and continues to be the greatest privilege of my life.

  22. John A. Marre says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    Muslims, obviously. They are the only people who have turned hate into a religion.

  23. R Russell says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    ISIS has claimed responsibility so we can expect our Theresa to make a statement that the attack has nothing to do with Islam…………..
    Now what does the first ‘I’ in ISIS stand for?
    Can someone please tell her? for I doubt I would get anywhere near to Downing Street to offer her a marked Koran and Hadiths.

  24. davej says

    Sep 15, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Fortunately the entire bomb did not explode, tho no doubt “Allah is still pleased”. Yet another message from the “Religion of Peace”. Their stupid book tells them to do this, their preachers tell them to do this and ISIS tells them to do this. Let’s not act puzzled or invoke “mental illness” when they follow their instructions.

    Sooner or later we are going to have to recognize the truth and do something about it: Stop any further immigration, deport all those who do not specifically repudiate Jihad and eliminate generous welfare benefits to those who spend all their State-sponsored free time plotting to kill us.

    • R Russell says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 8:28 am

      You know, Israel doesn’t get a good press these days but if we take the time to look at their Holy Book, the Tenakh we can find a great deal of good advice.
      The Israelites were told by YHWH God that ‘strangers’ coming to be part of their nation HAD to conform to their Laws. There was to be no favouritism, all were to accept that the nation had to have No God but YHWH, worship Him and adhere to His instructions for living.
      The Tenakh is full of the consequences of what happened to the Israelites when they thought they knew better and allowed foreign gods equality with YHWH. The result was war and the Israelites would lose and had to come to their senses in exile.
      Not a very popular concept in the 21st century.
      Now the UK used to be a Christian country and at least paid lip service to the Tenakh under the name of the Old Testament.
      What would have happened if we as a nation had adhered to the Old Testament instructions?
      We would NOT have terrorism.
      We are reaping what we have sown and until we also come to our senses as the Israelites had to do we will be on the losing side.
      It’s almost unacceptable in the UK to suggest there is anything worthwhile in the faith of our fathers, Scorn and sneers accompany any such suggestion.
      The result is obvious for all to see.
      Just as the Israelites had to come to their senses and return to YHWH God in order to return to Israel/Judea from their exile, so we also will need to come to our senses before this terrorism comes to an end.
      Sometimes we have to suffer for a very long time before we can accept and admit we took the wrong road and do something about it.

      • Carolyne says

        Sep 16, 2017 at 12:23 pm

        And be sure that God would be displeased if one used a vowel in His name. I guess Giod has nothing more important to do than check spelling.

        • R Russell says

          Sep 16, 2017 at 3:25 pm

          As I wrote, ‘It’s almost unacceptable in the UK to suggest there is anything worthwhile in the faith of our fathers, Scorn and sneers accompany any such suggestion.
          The result is obvious for all to see.’
          Nothing more needs to be said.

  25. libertyORdeath says

    Sep 16, 2017 at 8:44 am

    I think some of the best evidence of brainwashing is in that video…can you even believe that all those people were huddled around a burning anything on a London subway after the tens of thousands of terror attacks INCLUDING many attacks and plots on the freaking London subway system???

    How would anyone be so calmly discussing and filming a burning explosive on a subway in this day and age? Obviously because they are not properly prepared for the waves of terrorism that have been unleashed on the West in earnest in this past half century.

    It’s the same reason nobody reported suspicious activity until there were actual devices set to explode. Even those who witness something suspicious convince themselves not to say anything for a myriad of reasons from fear of shaming to ignorance of the current war being fought in almost every major country in the world.

    How successful would law enforcement be at stopping mafia violence without understanding their ideology and profiling Italians? There’s never been a problem before in the modern age with recognizing the identifying qualities of our enemies and using every means necessary to defend ourselves from any threat…until now.

    People have even been convinced to the point of vandalism that lamenting those murdered by jihad terror is disrespectful and offensive to a group of people who publicly claim to stand against terrorism. I’m still dumbfounded as to how the left went from defenders of free speech and civil liberties to useful dhimmis willing to forsake logic for misguided politeness. How are so many willing to place guilt on victims and make victims out of the worst of humanity?

    Has the infiltration gone too far already and we are on our inevitable march towards subservience? I for one say FUCK NO, and with truthand logic safe spaces (lol) like jihadwatch and the like we still have a fighting chance to save our culture from total replacement and destruction. It sure would be a sad world.

  26. Carolyne says

    Sep 16, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    Several years ago I was on the London tube travelling to Kensington when a young Middle-Eastern man got on and left a backpack by the back exit. I immediate got off at the next station. I heard nothing about it but I know the modus operandi of Muslims and that could very well have been a bomb. I do not go to London anymore.

    • libertyORdeath says

      Sep 16, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      It’s a sad truth for us that love the world but are too aware of the threat to enjoy it. I fear I will never see places like the great pyramids, Babylon or Persepolis but i guess at least they haven’t blown them up or bulldozed them…yet 🙁

  27. Ric says

    Sep 16, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Once again, London is attacked by the proverbial boogieman. It is now time for the apologist Overlords to decide whether it was an attack by Jihadi under the malignant spell of Islam or some demented infidel; the Overlords pray it is the latter. Oops, one cannot say Islam whether it is the truth or not, one may find oneself interrogated by law enforcement for criticizing Islam. Moreover, demeaning or denigrating this quasi Religion of Peace is a political and social no-no in this land that thrives on denial and political correctness.

    This was the fifth terror attack in the UK, and yet, the politicos continue pandering and mollycoddling this festering contaminate within the core of British society. Daring to say that the infidel citizenry should learn from Islam, not conversely. Doomed, by the ineptness and the spineless political dullards who care more for the well-being of the Religion of Terror, than the safety and security of its infidel citizenry.

  28. libertyORdeath says

    Sep 16, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    Great points but after a quick wiki check, I believe the number is 9 jihad attacks on London since 2005 and more than twenty since 1970.

    Now we should point out that there were many more terror attacks in London that were carried out by the IRA, but at least they were willing to immediately identify and denounce those responsible. The IRA’s motives were also much more benign imho. It was a plea for a sovereign land of their own as opposed to a literal plot to take over the world and turn the UK into an Islamic state.

    England in particular and the UK as a whole may have already relinquished any chance they had to stop a Muslim takeover. Math does not care about religion and the numbers clearly show that there are already enough Muslims in the UK to transform it completely within a few decades.

    I hope the West will wake up before it’s too late or at least defend our culture and civilization when the time comes. The new political movements in the West have given me some hope that there really are enough of us out there that are unwilling to go quietly. If and when the time comes I hope people will remember the motto of the SAS…”who dares wins”

    Pick up your weapon and follow me, I’ll be the one with the sniper rifle and Gadsden flag flying high! 😉

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