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Muslim father tried to kill his 4-year-old son for being “girly”

Sep 26, 2017 2:19 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

Due to Islamic religious edicts against homosexuals, gay Muslims live under psychological torture and physical threats, as revealed in a BBC series and also in the article below, which features a 26-year-old student from Pakistan who tells “his coming out story, which began when he was 4 years old”:

That was when his strict Muslim father began noticing “girly” things about the toddler….So what did Daddy do? He fed his son an overdose of sleeping pills. Better for little Saad to die young than shame the family.

What “daddy” was doing was trying to “spare” his little son from what he considered to be a fate worthy of death. Death for homosexuality is a sharia penalty; sharia values have now been exported to the West through Muslim immigration, and are not being challenged enough. Instead, they are being swept under the carpet for fear of being branded “racist,” “Islamophobic” and “xenophobic.”

An Islamic preacher, Sheikh Dr. Farrokh Sekaleshfar, “called for gay people to be executed gave sermons in Orlando just weeks before the Pulse nightclub massacre.” Sekaleshfar taught that killing homosexuals was an act of love and compassion. He stated:

“We see the physical killing as something brutal, and this is the point when human hatred toward the act has to be done out of love,” he said in the 2013 talk. You have to be happy for that person … we believe in an afterlife, we believe in an eternal life … and with this sentence, you will be forgiven and you won’t be accountable in the hereafter.”

Yet Western leaders continue without conscience to turn a blind eye to the real victims of human rights abuses and minimize the threats to Western freedoms, while sharia incursions continue to chip away at the democratic foundations that are in place for the protection of all the people.

The BBC report on Pakistani gay Muslims sheds some light on the psychological terror and real physical threats faced by Muslims who are homosexuals in Britain, but it is a ubiquitous problem:

Many gay men throughout the Islamic world have been fighting for the right to merely exist.

Unfortunately, the article below uses the plight of being gay in the Muslim world as a means to slam Trump’s Executive Order to temporarily ban immigration from specific Muslim countries. A reminder: the countries listed were determined by former president Obama, in order to protect all Americans of all nationalities and creeds. The focus of criticism should be that the worst persecuted — gays, Christians and Yazidis — should have been prioritized in Western nations as refugees.

“Being Muslim And Gay Nearly Cost A 4-Year-Old Pakistani His Life”, by Jeremy Helligar, Huffington Post (Thanks to The Religion of Peace), September 25, 2017:

I hadn’t been so moved by a young boy’s story since I spent nearly two hours weeping through the movie Lion. Somehow, though, I managed to hold back the tears while Saad (not his real name) shared his gripping childhood recollection.

During a lunch that lasted longer than Lion, the 26-year-old student from Pakistan told me his coming-out story, which began when he was 4 years old. That was when his strict Muslim father began noticing “girly” things about the toddler. In the man’s closed mind, there was no question about it: His little boy had to be gay.

So what did Daddy do? He fed his son an overdose of sleeping pills. Better for little Saad to die young than shame the family.

Thankfully, Saad’s mother, who would be his protector and his only champion in life, arrived on the near-death scene just in time.

“She found the empty bottle and rushed me to the hospital, and the doctors saved my life,” Saad told me.

His mother died several years ago, leaving her son emotionally alone in the world. His brother and sister are both married with families. They view Saad through the same harsh lens as their father. To his entire surviving immediate family, he’s destined to spend eternity being scorched by the burning flames of hell.

To Saad, who has been living, studying, and working in Australia for two years, he’s already getting singed. Soon after our lunch, he returned to his hometown, just outside of the Pakistani capital of Islamabad, for the third time since moving to Australia. It didn’t take more than one day for his father to reapply pressure for Saad to submit to an arranged marriage with a relative. Apparently, marrying his kin is preferable to leading a gay life.

I am ok…, he wrote to me one day by WhatsApp text. There is a great tension going on between my Dad, me and my siblings…

As I told you that all they want is to control me…

I am scared… I just hope I get back safely and I can find [a] way to get my permanent residency there…

Saad’s inheritance is also at risk. His mother, who worked as a professional with an advanced degree, made a point of leaving something extra behind for Saad, because she knew he would face more life challenges than his siblings.

He’s worried that his family will use his sexual orientation to cut him out of his inheritance, or worse, as grounds for his execution. In order to prevent stories from getting back home, Saad leads a monastic existence in Australia, where he’s currently earning his master’s degree, with hopes of eventually completing his PhD.

He works downtown and lives in a two-bedroom apartment with nine other people (four sleep in each bedroom, two in the living room). He doesn’t date, for fear that stories might get back to his family in Pakistan and thus jeopardize his life. At 26, he’s never had sex, and he’s never been kissed. His anxiety over his first time is compounded by a different kind of fear, one that he is unable to alleviate through alcohol.

In keeping with his Muslim faith, Saad does not drink. During his first 24 years in Pakistan, he’d never even seen alcohol. Drugs are also on his personal don’t list.

A genuine fear of God inspires his teetotaling. He’s terrified that he already has a date with the Devil, and he doesn’t want to tempt fate any more than he already has.

At the moment, he has an even more all-consuming fear. Later this year, his student visa will expire, requiring him to leave Australia and return to Pakistan for good. He doubts he’ll be able to get an extension, and he’s convinced he wouldn’t be able to survive for long back in his country.

When I met up with Saad after his return to Australia, I spent our two-hour dinner trying to talk him out of contemplating suicide.

“I am the only one who doesn’t have any control,” he said, fighting tears. “The only control I have is to end myself.”

The way he saw himself, he was a failure – as a son, as a brother, as a Muslim, as a human. If he had to die, he figured, it might as well be by his own hand.

Saad’s personal story is a bracing reminder of how explosive LGBTQ issues are in developing countries dominated by religion. For him, being a non-”masculine” gay might literally cost him his life. And his is not just a gay story. It’s an immigrant’s lament, as he faces many of the same worries and fears as the refugees whom Donald Trump would rather bar from entering the United States.

While gays in the U.S. have spent the past decades fighting for the right to serve in the military and the right to marry (a right that continues to elude gays in Australia), many gay men throughout the Islamic world have been fighting for the right to merely exist. Despite the general disapproval of homosexuality and the criminalization of sodomy in Pakistan (where the harshest punishment is life imprisonment), it’s not the government that poses the biggest threat to the LGBTQ population. It’s traditional and ultra-religious families like Saad’s.

LGBTQ issues are complicated in Pakistan and in some ways, contradictory. Although gay marriage remains illegal, last year a new fatwa ruled that transgender people can legally wed. There is also a large and growing LGBTQ community defying the moral and legal restrictions. But the odd rally aside, they live largely in the shadows.

I spoke to a 20-year-old gay Muslim who lives in Islamabad and says he’s out to his parents and doesn’t feel threatened living in the capital. That doesn’t mean he isn’t careful. He doesn’t dare include a public face pic in his profiles on hook-up apps, but he’ll freely share face and XXX pics privately. Of course, everyone’s coming-out story and gay experience is different, and perhaps he’s too young to be fully aware of what goes on outside of his relatively accepting microcosm.

If you log on to Grindr or Scruff in Pakistan, it’s business as usual, only more X-rated than in the West. (Scruff offers a blunt greeting that warns of the potential punitive ramifications of engaging in homosexual acts in the country.) In my travel experience, the more repressed the culture, the more direct and sex-obsessed the boys are on online….

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  1. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    The first sentence of the video says: “There were sermons in the mosque basically reciting the scriptures in the Qur’an where gays should be stoned to death.” Really? Please cite these Qur’an passages by chapter and verse (sura and aya). “No mention of stoning/Rajm … is found in the Qur’an”, says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajm .

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      He may have meant the Hadiths, Mark–or he may be referring to this:

      Quran (7:80-84) – “…For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds…. And we rained down on them a shower (of stones)”.

      The Hadith and Sira have this:

      Abu Dawud (4448) – “If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.”

  2. Westman says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    “To his entire surviving immediate family, he’s destined to spend eternity being scorched by the burning flames of hell.”

    “A genuine fear of God inspires his teetotaling. He’s terrified that he already has a date with the Devil..”

    Allah, king of the sadists, who hasn’t had time to do anything constructive for ages; burdened by the job of burning the 80+ Billion unbelievers that already died, continually applying new skins, pouring on boiling water, making caustic tea, etc.

    Poison a child’s mind with Allah/God as the Boogie Monster and he’ll never have peace. Allah is merciful? Allah is kind? Most Muslims may have great personal attributes, however, their “God” is a monster who asks them to do monstrous things and calls it “love”.

    With Allah, hate is love, slavery is freedom, destruction is goodness, war is peace, women’s ignorance is strength, etc. George Orwell must have been channeling Allah.

    • Jake says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 3:40 pm

      Margaret Atwood was CERTAINLY taking cues from Islam in The Handmaid’s Tale.

      • Westman says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 pm

        Yes, and the left thinks they have the answer to avoid it.

        Orwell had a few ideas about that:

        “…We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal..”

        All we have to do is shut up and follow Big Brother Lefty and Allah; then “just around the corner there lay a paradise”

        Sadly, what the Lefties and Islam want is the old tale of leveling the citizens into a mediocracy where only the elite emerge wealthy and free.

        Perhaps the best example of how youth becomes enamored by a falsehood of nirvana was the 60’s hippie/antiwar movement that, after the disillusionment of reality set in, yielded the ultimate capitalists. Hopefully, this new generation of protesters will also wake up to reality.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 7:43 pm

        Yes–but she pretends it is all about Judaism and Christianity.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm

      If Saad has any sense, he won’t return to Pakistan any more.

      • Jake says

        Sep 26, 2017 at 7:45 pm

        He’s about to be forcibly sent back by Australia, as the article points out.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2017 at 11:50 pm

          Yes–but he has returned previously, as well.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 29, 2017 at 1:58 pm

          And if he *does* have to return to Pakistan, he would be foolish to go back home. Disappearing into a large city would be safer.

  3. Jake says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    And this is why we need people to wake up and realize this is why Islam should be condemned. Religions affect people’s morals, and most Muslims believe a murderer is someone to be emulated along with other messed up shit. If I said I believed Hitler was God’s prophet, could I practice Nazism and claim anyone who thinks it’s immoral is a bigot? Because that’s what the Muslims are doing here, and it must be stopped!

  4. Benedict says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    This teaching is missing in Islam:
    https://youtu.be/MqK9LkqAgw0

  5. Al says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    And here’s the PM of Canada marching in Pride parades, knowing full well that it’s forbidden in Islam.
    What a hypocrite!!!
    When will the LGBQT community wake up?
    Islam is not supportive of their lifestyle.
    As well, the new sex ed curriculum will never be taught to the Islamic community. Their children will be excused from class.
    Mark my words.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 9:47 am

      Merkel, Trudeau–And people wonder why we voted for President Trump. I can’t understand those who didn’t.

  6. Guest says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    God have mercy on that boy

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2017 at 8:05 pm

      He did survive, but only because of his mother. He should never return to Pakistan.

      The crazy thing is that he has not left Islam.

  7. gravenimage says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    Muslim father tried to kill his 4-year-old son for being “girly”
    ………………….

    God, I hate Islam.

  8. HugoHackenbush says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    This is consistent with the Bukhari hadiths:

    Volume 7, Book 72, Number 774 :
    Narrated by Ibn ‘Abbas
    The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, “Turn them out of your houses .” The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and ‘Umar turned out such-and-such woman.

    • katherine says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 5:28 pm

      Effeminate yes but who made the generalization that all Trans are gay – look at the Russian pair that got married, both in bridal gown. Have to admit that groom was actually prettier though.

  9. Sarah says

    Sep 26, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    OK, I’ll be the bad guy here for pointing this stuff out…

    Here we have a man in his mid 20s who is arguably – old enough now to make up his own mind,who arguably has sufficient intelligence, given his studying path, who arguably has plenty of alternative influences in his life to support him and help him CHOOSE FOR HIMSELF given that he lives in Australia and clearly has some people around him who are staunch supporters.

    Yet he’s still a Muslim.
    Oh come on.

    Yet he’s still traveling home to Pakistan – regularly, worried about his ‘inheritance’.
    Oh come on.

    Something isn’t adding up here. He is in Australia, he is safe and protected by our laws. When in Pakistan he says he is at grave risk of execution – and clearly is at grave risk of an honour killing by his family.

    But he keeps going back to Pakistan. And he says its all to do with some magical inheritance? Even if that inheritance was worth a million dollars in our currency (which I doubt it is, given the circumstances at play here) – its not worth his life.

    If he thinks that money IS worth his life – then he should go back to Pakistan, marry some girl that his family throws at him and collect hiscash. Its the trade off he has to face, to get what he wants.

    The fact that he says he is trying for permanent residency adds another element to this whole story and gives me suspicion to his motives. He says he is worried about stories getting back to his family in Pakistan – so he lives a monastic life in Australia. OK – so which Pakistanis is he hanging around here in Australia who would run to his family and tell them what he is up to? Why the hell is he hanging around them? Conceivably if they’d tell on him – then they aren’t his friends or allies. Why is he anywhere near any of them?

    None of this adds up.

    We have a Pakistani who whether or not he is gay, is on a student visa in Australia. He wants to stay in Australia and is using his sexual orientation as the big emotive reason to guilt Australia into giving him permanent residency – yet despite all the dangers he says he is facing – he keeps traveling back to Pakistan. To the same people who apparently want to kill him for being who he is – all because of some vague inheritance?

    Not making sense, at all.

    And I have no sympathy for any Muslim who refuses to closely look at their own faith and beliefs – when those beliefs and that faith say he is evil and deserves to die. Grow a pair and stop being a coward.

    Roughly 1 in 7 human beings are Muslim. That means that SIX OUT OF SEVEN HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS STUPID RULES. He is supposed to be smart enough to be studying for a Doctorate, yet he is not smart enough to examine his own belief system and think that MAYBE, just MAYBE, the six out of seven might be right, while the one in seven might be wrong?

    Its not our problem, to be frank, if he can’t step away from the very religion that wants to literally murder him. Its his choice.

    I also note that this testimony as given by this Jeremy Helligar person, is incredibly emotive. Very very few facts, almost nothing in the way of evidence – its just a well crafted, hyperbolic wall of text designed to make you feel sorry for this Pakistani man. It doesn’t work on me. I’ve seen too many Lefties play the emotional response before in the hopes that it will distract us all from the truth.

    I’m sorry that he was born sexually attracted to the same gender, when he hails from Pakistan. That’s rough. No-one can’t help being gay, its not a bad thing. But its not Australia’s problem. And his story doesn’t add up logically – and as usual here we have yet another Muslim refusing to take accountability for their choices and decisions- and expecting others to suffer the consequences instead.

    • Truth 101 says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 8:40 pm

      Well, he indulges homosexuality, too, so why should you be surprised that he has bad judgment?

      And, yes, homosexual behavior is a bad thing — a very, very bad thing.

      • Sarah says

        Sep 27, 2017 at 10:39 pm

        OK.. Well, I’m an Atheist, so I don’t believe in that, to be honest.

        Its a sexual preference – and it has nothing to do with you or I, as long as everyone involved is capable of informed consent and is over 18.

        And if you’re coming at this from a godly perspective – maybe ask yourself why your God created homosexuality to begin with? If he loves his creation – created in his own image and all that – then why would he create homosexuality? Is he a sadistic, cruel, vindictive God – like Allah is purported to be – who deliberately creates homosexuals so that he can throw them into hell for eternity to burn in screaming agony???

        I’m not quibbling with your belief in God – if that is where your opinions of homosexuality arise from. Faith is a highly personal topic. But there has never been a God yet, in the existence of the human race, who has come on down to earth and shown that they are God – and have thus laid out their rules and conditions in order to be rewarded (or punished) for eternity.

        Ergo – religion – and all the rules it dictates, all the conditions it prescribes and all the judgement’s it brings down on everyone- is about as useful as used toilet paper. Religion was created by man, to control man and woman. No God had anything to do with religion.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 27, 2017 at 11:57 pm

      Actually, Sarah, this sort of thing is *very* common.

      You also hear about women threatened with “Honor Killing”–or even having suffered attempted “Honor Killing”–who go back home when assured that they will be safe.

      And then they are murdered–and you wonder how they could be so stupid.

      I am not Muslim, and I came from an abusive home. I left young, but tried to reconcile several times, even when I should have known better. I just really wanted a decent, loving family–and it took me a long time to fully realize that this was not going to happen unless I created one myself.

      I think this is even more true with Muslims, who are told early on that family–and family “honor”–are everything.

      Look back through the archives here, and you will find plenty of stories like this one.

  10. Susette says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 10:33 am

    Although I question the legitimacy of parts of this story…It’s simple…leave islam and Pakistan behind and never return. Assume a new identity. Perhaps the Austrailians will help with asylum since he is being persecuted. Saad – time to enjoy sex, have a beer, get your PhD, choose your own spiritual journey, and live your life as you choose. That’s what adults do.

  11. PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Sodomy has always been very common in Islamic societies. The Koranic rules against sodomy do not stop it and never have. Besides, there are loopholes around the prohibitions against sodomy…so some types of sodomy are accepted in Islam. In Afghanistan, Muslims call sodomy “Bachha Bozzi” = “Boy Play.”

  12. Truth 101 says

    Sep 27, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    Well, he indulges homosexuality, too, so why should you be surprised that he has bad judgment?

    And, yes, homosexual behavior is a bad thing — a very, very bad thing.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 28, 2017 at 12:01 am

      Are you fine with trying to kill 4-year-old boys for appearing “effeminate”? You certainly don’t say you do.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 28, 2017 at 12:02 am

        Correction: You certainly don’t say that you aren’t.

  13. JD says

    Sep 29, 2017 at 9:10 am

    I hate Islam, but a lot of these articles are about people who have done crimes who just happen to be muslim.

    The grooming of underage white girls is a strong example of behaviour that has direct roots in the ideology of Islam, I don’t see how this is though.

    • Robert Spencer says

      Sep 29, 2017 at 1:47 pm

      Islam commands death for homosexuality.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 29, 2017 at 2:16 pm

      What absolute claptrap. Pious Muslims are throwing homosexuals off rooftops and stoning them to death, all on the texts and tenets of Islam.

      This is not a “crime” as Muslims see it–it is perfectly Islamic.

    • Jake says

      Sep 29, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      Yeah, no, this is a case of it being because of their religion. If it weren’t for religion, very few if any would want people killed for being gay.

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