He says also that he has no remorse for his actions, and will attain Paradise. Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn, meanwhile, says that Nolen “didn’t know the difference between right and wrong, and (he) didn’t know the consequences of his actions.”
Nonsense. He knows very well the difference between right and wrong. The Qur’an says “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (47:4), and as far as he is concerned, that is right, and he knows that as a consequence of his actions, he will go to Paradise. Mashburn is saying that standard Islamic belief is tantamount to insanity. Does he have any idea of how “Islamophobic” he is being?
“‘I Beheaded The First Woman’ – Alton Nolen Interviews Played In Trial,” by Tiffany Liou, News 9, September 20, 2017:
NORMAN, Oklahoma – Throughout the trial, defendant Alton Nolen has been sitting in the court room with his eyes closed and his hands covering his ears. But today, the jurors heard two interviews where Nolen was attentive and responsive.
The interviews were conducted by Moore police detectives and FBI agents. One was done the day after the beheading incident at Vaughan Foods in Moore. The other was done two days later with the same officers. They spoke to the suspect at the hospital.
During the first interview, Nolen admitted to the crime on both victims, Colleen Hufford and Traci Johnson. They asked him about stabbing Johnson and he responded, “That was right after I beheaded the first woman.”
Nolen said in the interview that the Quran taught him that anyone who oppressed him should be beheaded, and he talked a lot about his own interpretation of the Muslim religion.
When asked if he felt remorse or regret for his actions, Nolen responded “no”. He said he would go to heaven….
Then on Monday, the defense will make their case. The defense is asking the jury to find Nolen not guilty by reason of insanity.
After court, Mashburn said, “It’s all in the context of what legally insane means. And that is (Nolen) didn’t know the difference between right and wrong, and (he) didn’t know the consequences of his actions. And clearly he knew what he did was wrong.”…
Monty says
Muslims have different concepts of right and wrong from most people. it is “right” if the Koran permits or commands it and wrong if the Koran forbids it. There are many rules that apply only to Muslims. You may not steal from another Muslim but it is fine to steal from a non-Muslim. Muslims may pay lip service to non Sharia laws. Many Muslims are happy to live alongside non-Muslims, at least for now. Nolen knows that he broke the law of the land but it is not HIS law, so he does not care. He is justified in his own eyes as the Koran is his authority. He is not insane, any more than any other Muslim who takes the Koran seriously. He is all the more dangerous for his self-righteous attitude. So he, in his own eyes, is right and we are wrong. And our leaders are intent on stamping out any criticism or even examination of this “religion of peace”? I wonder how they would react if it was their wives or daughters being slaughtered? Even our cattle are killed more humanely.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Monty. Pious Muslims do not share our values or our morality.
roger woodhouse says
Believing the Koran is obviously a sign of insanity
Anne Smith says
They would react in the same way still. Look at the dreadful incident where the daughter of a high up EU official was raped and murdered by a Muslim immigrant in Germany. The family were asking for donations to be given to an immigrants care centre in her memory!!
You couldn’t make it up.
Shane says
It is worrisome that the District Attorney believes that this cold-blooded murderer does not know the difference between right and wrong, as that means he will not go for the maximum sentence. This anti-White bigot and murderer deserves the death sentence by hanging in the public square. After he is dead, throw his body to the pigs.
Jacqueleen says
It is impossible to deal with these uncivilized Muslims. They will not honor our laws so, why are they here? Why are they in Europe? They must all be evicted and sent back to the Middle East even if they were born here….Let them live in tents and caves like the uncivilized and then ban them from migration to a civilized country…This is ISOLATION AND THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THE MUSLIM AND THE KORAN… They lie, steal, rape, cheat, bomb, shoot, knife….etc. What good is there to allow them into this country. What kind of benefit are they to our society? Why don’t our good Immigration Laws apply to these imbeciles? We can pray for a conversion of heart but we must trust that God can find them even in the desert…..EVICT AND BAN…AND ISOLATE!
Stephen says
These people are Barbarians.and quite simply should not be loose in a civilized society..there should not even be a trial as there is NO DEFENSE for this murderous behaviour in our society.death sentence ASAP .GIVE HIM AN EXPRESS RIDE TO HIS PARADISE before more idiotic Islamic murders ate carried out on innocents
Wellington says
“Mashburn is saying that standard Islamic belief is tantamount to insanity.”
Hmmm. The trouble and the truth of it here is that Greg Mashburn is arguably correct, though I highly doubt he comprehends why he is possibly correct. He has arguably stumbled into the truth without grasping the truth, a frequent occurrence in all ages but particularly the one we live in.
Now, insanity is a legal term, not a medical one, and folks should know this (understandably many do not). And for legal purposes we might actually be faced with the absurd situation whereby Islam is considered a religion for First Amendment purposes (at present it surely is per case law) but if you believe in Islam then you are insane. Talk about a new (and invidious) Catch 22 or what, no?
The burden which is Islam to all mankind, and especially for free civilized societies, is unabating. I wish Islam would just go away but it ain’t gonna’. No it ain’t. Mankind is stuck with it. Damn.
PaulM says
Interesting. If he is found not guilty for any reason that relates directly to his “religion”, be he labelled insane or not, this will in effect provide “carte blanche” for literally any Muslim and follower of this sick, diseased fascist group to commit whatever sick, heinous act they choose to commit. What the hell is wrong with the North American judicial system? Are all politicians, judges and law enforcement representatives literally insane? I am glad I am moving to Ukraine next year. Screw this!!!
Bob says
PaulM – “What the hell is wrong with the North American judicial system?” The same question could be asked of the British judicial system which seem to go all too easily on mucklim perps -it’s as if the judges, magistrates and official handers-down of sentences’re afraid of muslims having revenge on the judhes’ families!
Michael Copeland says
Nolan did “exactly what this book says”, as Lt.-Col. Allen West puts it.
Benedict says
Islam with its canon is “gefundenes Fressen” for people who is looking for divine sanction and license to kill infidels, to lie, to deceive, to steal, to rape them etc. You just dedicate your evil deeds to Allah and his licentious paradise will be your due reward. What a surprise for such people when they end up with Muhammad and others in the eighth circle of Hell.
CogitoErgoSum says
Would he be found guilty under Sharia …. especially if he claimed the two women he attacked had committed blasphemy and there were no other witnesses? In such a case who’s to say they did not? Wouldn’t the word of a Muslim man be taken over the word of a non-Muslim??? ….. and even if the women were Muslims his word would override the testimonies of two women. I doubt a plea of insanity would even be considered at all in such a case concerning two women. To the vast majority of Muslims he would be praised as having earned a first-class ticket to a place of honor in Muslim Paradise because he was defending the honor of Allah (true or not).
And Linda Sarsour wants to bring Sharia to you. There is insanity for you.
gravenimage says
He would not be found guilty under Shari’ah. Slaughtering Infidels is *praised* under Shari’ah–it is not a criminal offense.
Westman says
“… I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.” – Quran (8:12)
Now where could one get the notion that Allah likes to see unbelievers beheaded?
PaulM says
Precisely. That son of a bitch!!! He got carried away obviously and forgot to remove the fingers and toes? Shame on him. Allah will be pissed I am sure. As a punishment, he should only be given….mmmm…let me see…..only 10 virgins……and really ugly ones, with lots of warts and no teeth….wait…no, he might like the no teeth part…..make them dwarfs….yes that will work.
Guest says
If we start to call the religious insane how long will it be before the Christians and the Jews are put in asylums
gravenimage says
What are Jews and Christians doing that is criminally insane?
Laura says
Indoctrinating children into a religion with a god who only exists in a non-existing way. That surely is insanity, and it borders on criminal.
Leon Degney says
Spot on.
gravenimage says
Laura, even if you think that religion has no basis, you think that teaching children that God loves them is “criminal”, yet appear to be fine with Muslims teaching their children to rape and murder in the name of Allah? Why?
Guest says
I meant we can’t use the “insane” card on Muslim criminals forever
Joe says
As your question implies it is all about culture. Different cultures have different rules. If you expect Asian businesses to abide by Judeo-Christian ethics, you will be robbed.
Jack Welch, a legendary business manager, who was famous for “business without borders” always emphasized that every member of the team had to have the same values before the team could execute with much efficiency.
It is true that all morally formed consciences will gravitate to the same values, but any oppressive system, such as Islam, will retard the moral development. If the oppressive system is evil, then following the system sears conscience and destroys everything.
The guys who wrote the assimilation into the Koran, made sure that the system was rigid and oppressive, such as death to apostates, so that consciences would never wander outside their rules.
Jews, Christians, Buddhists, and many others do not oppress. A pilgrim can move from one religion to the next. The conscience is allowed to form on its own.
As you can see, the issue is really oppression (not religion).
Neil Ross says
Interesting case, and whilst the defence counsel are trying to absolve the murdering scumbag, they are are, at the same time creating a legal precedent that confirms the Koran as a document that commands ALL muslims to murder their neighbours. If anyone else in western democracies published and disseminated documents calling on followers to kill, mutilate, rape and murder innocent citizens based on their religion, race and gender the publishers would be punished severely. Sadly, in the case of the Koran, this exact set of commandments has been protected as free speech with predictable results.
I hope the US legal system can subpoena some Muslim clerics in this case to ask them the fundamental question….”does the Koran and the Muslim faith condone and command the abuse and murder of non Muslims?” There is a definite public interest in exposing this question properly and transparently in court.
Willis A White says
They would lie. Their religion allows them to lie if it furthers the Islam’s goals.
mortimer says
In point of fact, Mashburn’s lack of remorse say for being obedient to STANDARD ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW says that standard Islamic belief is tantamount to insanity… at least in the view of the COURTS!
It is remarkable how UNPREPARED most Western judges are in cases involved with JIHAD and 7th CENTURY ISLAMIC WARFARE.
Judges are judging Muslim behavior by 21st century HUMAN RIGHTS standards. However, JIHADISTS judge the 21st century by 7th century standards out of barbaric Arabia of that time!
Islam was an highwayman RAPE CULT, PLUNDER CULT and EXTORTION CULT, that soon became fabulously rich and fabulously powerful, but REPUSIVELY VICIOUS, OPPORTUNISTIC, MISOGYNISTIC and GREEDY.
gary says
Here Here! Speak the truth Mortimer!!
….although the highwayman rape cult, (As true as that is), is a bit much for the Western mindset. They would prefer you refer to it as “The Religion of Peace”.
mortimer says
CORRECTION: In point of fact, Mashburn’s lack of remorse for killing out of obedient to STANDARD ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW says that standard Islamic belief is tantamount to insanity… at least in the view of the COURTS!
The courts see any breach of 21st century human rights codes to be ‘insane’. The Koran says the opposite: Any opposition to the Koran’s views is ‘a disease in the heart of the disbelievers’.
Koran 2:10; 22:53; 33:32, etc., etc.
gravenimage says
Oklahoma Muslim who beheaded coworker says Qur’an commands beheading
………………..
He’s not wrong. That’s why it is suicidal for us to have those who follow the vicious diktats of the Qur’an here.
MasQueNada says
Robert, you’re misunderstanding what the D.A. is saying. He paraphrases the defense, which is trying to get their client declared not guilty by reason of insanity, but then he contrasts that with his own view, which is
gravenimage says
But, of course, he *did not* think it was wrong–he just realized that Infidels thought it was wrong, which is a a very different matter.
Too many in the West–including this DA–assume that Muslims have the same value system as civilized Infidels.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, I agree with you that Robert may have gotten that wrong. But, either way I think the killer will still be found innocent due to insanity ……… because only an insane person would interpret the Quran as being anything but a book of peace for a religion of peace. We’ve been told that over and over ……. and over and over ……. and over and over. …. to the point of our own insanity. So in this case it will be the jurors who are insane. Now, I’m hoping I am the one who is wrong ……..but I doubt it.
shoehorn says
If its legally insane to carry out one’s religious instructions as written in the Qur’an then every jihad terrorist is off the hook.
John Forbes says
How & why do the WESTERN LEADERS( a misnomer if there ever was one) with confessions like this keep PARROTING : ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE FOLLOWED BY VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !
WE NEED TO SCREAM AT THESE PEOPLE – STOP LYING – EVERY TIME WE HEAR THIS NONSENSE !!
I wonder about leftists says
to S,Kevin Wojtaszek.
Could you pls inform me who is that “word fence”, They are blocking me already for about 3/4 of a year,
BECAUSE THEY FOUND ME TOO MUCH SURFING ON NEGATIVE VIDEO’S in connection with Moslims
I tried to undo it, but no chance. I am really mad about this, again taking away my freedom of speech and my freedom of watching what I want and they do not give any E-mail adres or any adres where you can dress them. Who are those people, I wished I was a millionaire, I would sue them all.
Just behead and rape, you poor muslims and you don’t know the difference between right and wrong?
You know damned well and you know that you should get the death penalty, but you know you can get away with it, but things will change before you will conquer the world, because no man or woman is supreme above the other, only the ones who commit such horrible crimes to humanity, will go down, for sure. Who is paying by the way for your lawyers? May be even the people you murdered. You tortured animals, nothing is too bad for you to act upon.
The western countries have to unite against this horrible, violent ideology , called ISLAM 111
Bsrat says
If a none Muslim asks what is islam about???
Best answer would be to compile a link to all the deeds of several Muslim converts and they can make their minds up !!!!
paul says
In Canada, the victim would be an islamophobe, in need of jail under M-103. Look what he made them do! While in jail, if the police offended him, he could receive 10.5 million dollars, and an apology from Muslim PM Trudeau.
He should have gone to Canada, where we worship them.
A family of 14 gets $700 per head each, and thats more than 10,000 per month. The kids drive new SUV’s to school, while your kids walk. A Canadian senior retired, may receive $585 per month on CPP.
We need and want them, folks!
Next time, DO NOT VOTE LIBERAL!
Peacemaker says
This Muslim is telling truth that Quran command Muslim to kill people. But infidels refuse to believe.
Westman says
Yet in their Bible it says: “..and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast….” Rev (20:4)
There is only one religion that calls for the beheading of unbelievers.
Peacemaker says
Jews, Christians, Pagon and others are the victims of head-hunting barbaric Islam and Muslim.
In Quran and hadith keep telling Muslim to kill people for cause of Allah and Muhammand had set an example for all Muslim.
Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing… but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)”
Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”
Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves”
Sahih Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Sahih Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).”
Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet said, Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophe
Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious
Willis A White says
And that was written BEFORE the Muslim religion(?) was founded!
Aussie Infidel says
“Cleveland County DA Greg Mashburn, says that Nolen “didn’t know the difference between right and wrong, and (he) didn’t know the consequences of his actions.”
What rubbish! Does DA Mashburn actually believe his own words? Has he ever read the Quran, or the other Islamic scriptures? The difference between right and wrong in Islam is virtually the opposite of what it means in the West. All devout Muslims know exactly what they are doing when they murder non-Muslims. For Mashburn’s edification, they are trying to earn their passage to Paradise! Does he not understand that most fundamental tenet of Islam? It’s time lawyers (at least DAs) also studied the Quran and the Sharia. Devout Muslims believe the Quran implicitly – and the ‘small number of extremists’ – the psychopaths in their communities (about 1%) – are the ones who carry out its calls for violence against infidels. Muslims also regard the ‘divine’ laws in the Sharia to be much more important than mere man-made laws by kafirs or infidels.
“The defence is asking the jury to find Nolen not guilty by reason of insanity.”
The only ‘insanity’ Nolan is suffering from, is ‘religious fanaticism’, which afflicts all devout Muslims, and is caused by deep indoctrination with Islam’s ideological madness.
If this is the level of understanding of Islam by American lawyers, is it any wonder that the judges in the 9th Circuit Court blocked President Trump’s executive order on Muslim immigration?
Devout Muslims reject democracy and secular values, which is why they will never integrate into Western societies.
FYI says
Converts to islam are not free to break God’s Commandments just because allah in his koran says so.
Clearly many converts to islam suddenly think they are free to do things that are morally wrong.Or become violently anti-Semitic as many of them become.
You will not fool God if you convert to islam.His Commandments,which He expects to be obeyed are ABOVE anything written in the koran.
Mateen Elass says
Robert Spencer, please correct your statement concerning Greg Mashburn — you are wrongly accusing him of believing that Alton Nolen is insane because of his Muslim beliefs. In the above article, Mashburn is merely articulating what defense Nolen’s attorneys plan to mount. This is made clear in other articles on the court case. For example:
“The defense announced last week it plans to use an insanity defense, something Mashburn said isn’t viable.
‘What this boils down to is [Nolen] made a lot of choices that day. He had a clear motivation and justification for what he did. The state is going to ask you (the jury) to hold Nolen accountable for the choices he made,’ Mashburn said.”
http://www.normantranscript.com/news/oklahoma/jury-selected-in-nolen-case/article_0d228682-5f30-5ddd-a79b-e35306138935.html
While there are undoubtedly many cases where prosecutors seek to give Muslim perpetrators a pass on the basis of presumed insanity, this is not one of them.
John A. Marre says
So when a Muslim states clearly the truth about his gutter religion commanding him to kill non-members, the authorities stumble over themselves to forgive him, by saying that he is insane and not responsible for his actions.
When a normal human points out that the Quran commands Muslims to slice the necks of unbelievers, the normal human is attacked, condemned, his website is attacked, and his means of earning income is destroyed.
Why has the American media completely buried the story of a Muslim chopping an American woman’s head off? Why do the authorities defend and protect Muslim murderers? I don’t like rhetorical questions, so the answer is that the politicians know that Muslims are reproducing rapidly, and vote democrat; the media are well aware of what the future of this country will be under Islam, and will do everything in their power to assure that Muslims have an easy time turning the country into the Caliphate of the USA.
The zealous practice of Islam is indistinguishable from certified insanity, because the two result in the individual acting in 100% opposition to human nature, with resultant harm to the individual and other people.
UNCLE VLADDI says
GLOBALISM IS AN ATTACK ON PROPERTY RIGHTS. So is “liberalism” (aka “socialism;” “communism;” and “Marxism”), with its claims to desire ENFORCED “equity,” (equality of outcome over a truly equitable equality of opportunity) “fairness,” and of course, “Wealth Redistribution” (aka THEFT). Know what else an attack on property rights is known as? “CRIME” and “SLAVERY”!
…….
From here:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/austria-90-of-asylum-seekers-end-up-on-welfare#comment-1741983
Re: “Thought that the Muslim migrants were coming to Europe to serve as a work force for the aging population? Don’t be naive.”
Guess who’s REALLY “naive?”
The globalist corporazis and banksters – who are ultimately central-planning collectivists – who think they’re smart enough to rule the world, that’s who!
Anti-Mankindism started with divisive neutering and cuckolding “feminism.” And that only started (by telling women they were “victims”) because big business wanted lots of cheaper labor – which they then got: twice as many people in the workforce to choose from, at half the wages. Win/win for them; lose/lose for us!
Divide & conquer Equal slavery for all sold to us as “freedom from oppression!”
Rinse and repeat, with muslim 3rd-world immigration making us have to work 2 jobs for the old pay-rates of one, and our women working and so also now not having children which is their excuse to bring in even more fecund muslims etc!
It’s also what’s behind billionaire George Soros’ “open borders/open society” globalism: more cheap wage slaves.
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Now they want free trade with China.
Right now pretty-much everything ‘made in America’ is really already made in China. And of course they still copy everything we hire them to make, too.
So if we open the borders to their stuff, who in their right mind will think they will be buying the stuff they make for us wholesale, back from us at retail prices?!
What will happen is that they will undercut all the stuff they currently make for us, thereby putting all of our own “middleman” companies out of business. After all, China is one company (Sinocorp) so to pretend their government can’t subsidize their industries, while still allowing their corporations to set any prices they want, is sheerest delusion!
And just like with how feminism destroyed their labor-replacement schemes by their intended slaves all having less children, it’s incredibly short-sighted, all about sacrificing long-term goals for short-term profits. Sacrificing the scary idea of calculated self-sacrifice now for greater future gains, as corporations always do. They do it so much, they’ve even FEARFULLY neutered them selves by forcing their pet politicians to enshrine their self-defeating criminal delinquency right into their very own laws on incorporation themselves.
THE GLOBALIST CORPORATIONS HAVE CONVINCED PEOPLE TO “VOTE” FOR THEIR OWN ENSLAVEMENT, SOLD AS “FREEDOM!”
EVERY CRIME AND CORRUPT DEGRADATION CAN BE HELD AS A VIRTUE, AS LONG AS IT’S POSED AS BEING “DEFENSIVE!”
And it often works because some people want to “pre-emptively, defensively” use violent force to “PREVENT” crime – but that is literally impossible, since crime is a CHOICE, not an “illness.”
So their stance is one of self-defeating, masochistic, paranoid slander. Masochists pretend they can “control” their own fears, BY causing (or allowing or encouraging others to cause) those very same, worst-case scenario problems which cause the damage and pains they fear the most. Thus they seek to “pre-emptively, defensively” Submit to and compromise with, any and all perceived threats, like this: “SINCE someone COULD commit crimes, SO they WILL commit them, SO I HAVE TO stop them from attacking innocent other people first, by attacking them first, before they do (in other worse, while they are still innocent other people too)!
Since crime is defined as attacking thereby innocent other people first, they want to and may choose to become the predatory criminal aggressors and attack innocent other people first, in order to stop any other people from ever attacking them first. They thus instantly become that which they fear the most.
All gangsters are criminal cowards, determined to force their ways on others. All criminals are also hypocrites (and all hypocrites are criminals) and literal psycho-paths (which is Greek for “thought killers.”) Such cowards pretend that “SINCE something bad COULD happen, SO it WILL happen, so they HAVE TO attack you first, to stop you – or by compromising with and Submitting to the threat. Masochists pretend to be able to “control” their own fears, BY causing or allowing others (muslims) to cause those very same, worst-case scenario problems which cause the pains they fear the most. Attacking (thereby innocent) other people first defines criminality. It’s a vicious cycle, and since they have deliberately turned off their brains, it will never stop. Such suicidally masochistic hypocritical psychopaths can’t be reasoned with.
In order to avoid thinking, these leftopaths rely on emotion – more specifically, on reflecting the same emotions back at people: so people who project (static, useless, fear-focused) pity towards victims are pitiful and should themselves be pitied, while those who project (dynamic, useful, and ultimately hope-focused) anger at problems and mistakes, in order to solve and fix them, are regarded as ‘hateful’ and so should be hated by others.
Gamaliel says
The truth is that Nolan didn’t know right from wrong. If that is the definition of insanity than Islam is insane.
Gamaliel says
One more thing, Muhammad wasn’t insane, he was a self serving evil man who created insanity so he could become powerful and rich.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Libertine “liberal” criminals are “muslims,” and “muslims” are “liberals:”
Libertines are criminals who are ALWAYS against any and all responsibilities, “Because you all do it, too! Whee!”
i.e:
“I don’t care about what you want or say because it’s ALWAYS my right to do whatever I want whenever I want to, whenever I want and to whomever I want to do it to, and you have no right to stop me, but only the responsibility to be my slave and do whatever I want you to, so there, NYAH!
And it is my right to always attack everyone else first, because you always did and so also will always attack me first, so nobody is ever innocent and since everyone’s equally guilty, nobody is ever really guilty, either!
Besides, since we can never really know anythig at all for sure, there is no “first” or “second” causes or effects either! Whee!”
Since you will always break agreements if and when you can, so will I! Except I’m more honest than you, in that I am openly declaring my dishonesty! Lying is allowed since it can and so will always happen anywway, and so all the treaties can be broken, should always be broken, if and when one can get away with it! Might makes right!
Therefore while all is (by God, obviously, since nothing is outside god’s power and will) allowed unless and until very specifically disallowed in advance, it is also true that even everything which has been specifically denied in advance, can and so shold also be permitted later if one can achieve is by breaking one’s word, if and when one has the power to do so! Whee!
There – I think I’ve covered everything that can happen when criminals refuse top obey rules, so since there are no real crimes or criminals, my predictions apply to everyone all the time, for all time, to all humanity, too!
Whee!
– Muhammad –
UNCLE VLADDI says
Since rational people get angry with criminals for their predatory choices, and criminals insist they have no choices because we’re all equally victims who should therefore tolerate the diverse differences between the kind of victim who attacks innocent others first, and those who don’t, they insist pity is always good and anger is always bad.
Since criminals expect that all is generally allowed unless and until it is very specifically disallowed in advance, the only real crime is trying to prevent them from doing whatever they want to do, to whomever they want to do it to, and whenever they want to do it. Such attempts are always seen by them as “mean!” or more recently, “HATEFUL!”
But as Robert Spencer noted:
Incitement to violence is easy to spot – but incitement to “hostility” is in the eye of the beholder; so all anti-free-speech initiatives conflate (anti-crime) free speech and even (what they call “hateful”) feelings with actual violent crimes; for instance trying to criminalize speech against a religion or race (say, against someone for their simply noticing that islam isn’t really a race or a religion, but only a global crime-gang).
The whole notion of “hate-speech” and “hate-crimes” IS a crime! Having “hate” isn’t a criminal act, it’s EITHER the perfectly natural and neutral human response to ongoing injustices, OR it’s a victim-blaming slanderous HABIT; but either way, it’s only an effect, and not a cause of anything. I hate crimes & the criminals who commit them; so what?
“Hate crimes” are really only *thought*-crimes, which is a victim-blaming slanderous assertion made by criminals to deflect everyone’s attention away from their own crimes (since criminals are psycho-paths who hate thinking, of course to them) by asserting that anyone merely considering or feeling that one should dislike something bad – aka crime and criminals – should be accused of committing the only “illegal crime” in itself!
carol says
I wonder why Justin Trudeau comes to mind?