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Pakistan: Islamic authorities ban musical gatherings, seize and burn musical instruments

Sep 10, 2017 8:30 am By Robert Spencer

Hadith Qudsi 19:5: “The Prophet said that Allah commanded him to destroy all the musical instruments, idols, crosses and all the trappings of ignorance.” (The Hadith Qudsi, or holy Hadith, are those in which Muhammad transmits the words of Allah, although those words are not in the Qur’an.)

Muhammad also said:

(1) “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance.”

(2) “On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress.”

(3) “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage.”

(4) “This community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones.” Someone asked, “When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?” and he said, “When songstresses and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful.”

(5) “There will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ….” — ‘Umdat al-Salik r40.0

“Elders ‘ban’ musical gatherings in Landi Kotal,” by Ali Akbar and Abdullah Malik, Dawn, September 8, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Seminary organisers in the town of Landi Kotal in the Federally Administered Tribal Area on Friday allegedly announced a ban on musical gatherings in the area, sources in the political administration told DawnNews.

Syed Mohammad Ilyas Banuri alias Khan Lala and Syed Muhammad Ibrahim alias Bacha Jan, organisers of the Khanqah-e-Binoria seminary, allegedly announced the restriction on musical gatherings in the Shinwari Ashkhel area, the sources said.

The organisers warned that the houses of those either holding musical gatherings or in possession of musical instruments would be burnt, the sources claimed.

According to sources, a few days ago, the organisers of the seminary had allegedly ransacked weddings in the area and seized musical instruments being played there.

Today, after Friday prayers and in the presence of hundreds of people, the men allegedly burnt the instruments, the sources said….

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  1. mortimer says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 8:51 am

    An Islamic website makes the following conclusions about music: “In conclusion, avoid all singing, music, gatherings of entertainment, except for gatherings of melodious remembrance of Allah and His Messenger. And, be cautious if singing and music which are of spiritually happiness (not material) and also leads one to remember Allah and only listen sparingly if one could not avoid it at all.”

    http://www.imranhosein.org/faq/59-general/224-is-music-allowed-in-islam.html

    So… ask your music-loving friends: Do you know what the Islamic ruling is about music? Then tell them: ‘All secular music will be forbidden under Sharia.’

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      Not just secular music–all music except for screeching Islamic Nasheeds with–at most–a drum accompaniment.

  2. Makenomistake says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 8:51 am

    As Black money destroys the economy of a country, the Black ideology of islam destroys any society that it can afford to penetrate. This Black ideology of islam has already destroyed anything humane and civilised in islamic countries to a large extent . Now it is out to infect the minds of the people of free world. Pakistan is a lost case being islamic.

    • Jack Dawkins says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:34 am

      Big Mistake! Money is green.

      • UNCLE VLADDI says

        Sep 11, 2017 at 5:02 am

        Pst! OIL IS BLACK.

        😉

    • blitz2b says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 10:42 am

      Makenomistake says “…Pakistan is a lost case being islamic….”

      Actually that is not true… Check out this website. The music industry in Pakistan is huge. With men and women singing side by side and without the hypocritical hijab.
      Only here in the Muslim women become conservative… In Pakistan most woman. In big cities do not adhere to these stupid Islamic rulings.

      http://www.cokestudio.com.pk/mobile/season10/

      Good music here…

      • Will says

        Sep 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm

        Nice try, to fool a lot of ignorant progressives…… but those are Sikhs and Hindus …. go peddle your fantasy elsewhere …..

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 10, 2017 at 9:26 pm

          Some of them *are* nominal Muslims, Will–but how many of them would actually stand with us to oppose the savagery of Islam?

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 10, 2017 at 9:22 pm

        blitz2b wrote:

        Makenomistake says “…Pakistan is a lost case being islamic….”

        Actually that is not true… Check out this website. The music industry in Pakistan is huge. With men and women singing side by side and without the hypocritical hijab.
        Only here in the Muslim women become conservative… In Pakistan most woman. In big cities do not adhere to these stupid Islamic rulings.
        ………………………….

        blitz2b, you might ask whether these Muslim musicians are standing up against Shari’ah law. Do they have any problems with Honor Killing and the oppression and murder of women, Christians, and Hindus?

        And your implication that it is only rural areas that take Islamic law seriously does not, I’m afraid, stand up to scrutiny.

        This happened in Lahore, often touted as Pakistan’s most liberal and cosmopolitan city:

        “Pakistan: Muslim refuses to pay repair bill, has Christian repairman jailed for blasphemy”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/06/pakistan-muslim-refuses-to-pay-repair-bill-has-christian-repairman-jailed-for-blasphemy

        And this, from Hyderabad:

        “Pakistan: Ad for sewer workers ‘only for non-Muslims’”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/pakistan-ad-for-sewer-workers-only-for-non-muslims

        I’m afraid the existence of a few musicians does not mean that many Pakistanis actually reject the horrors of Islam, nor that even these musicians would take a stand against Islam themselves.

        • blitz2b says

          Sep 11, 2017 at 11:00 am

          graven says “…you might ask whether these Muslim musicians are standing up against Shari’ah law. ..”

          I get your point graven and I’m not saying that these musicians will revolutionize Pakistan, what I am saying is that being musicians and the type of music they are creating are already in stark contradiction to Islam’s archaic laws, so they are at least moving in the right direction in that the mullahs and imams are in check for the moment.

          As for speaking up against sharia that is indeed a pipe dream I’m not dreaming, but these westernized Muslims themselves are treading on egg shells..

          From the news I get from Christian friends in Pakistan, they rather have a pseudo- western culture where nominal Muslims are able to befriend infidels and share a commonality through the medium of music rather than one based on the sharia where even Christian women are required to cover up like Muslims.

          At the moment UK and a few other European nations appear more Islamic than Pakistan does, and that is the point I’m trying to make.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:09 pm

      What is “Black money”?

  3. john spielman says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 9:52 am

    so I take it the muslim universities don’ teach music appreciation courses with Beethoven Mozart Bach etc?
    only how to; rape, behead, lie, and steal?just like ole Moe did

  4. Gen Jones says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 10:25 am

    Every other religion has music as an important part of praising God. Make joyful noise to the Lord as instructed in the Psalms. From Bach and Handel played in cathedrals to Gospel sung in small churches, as well as innumerable examples from religions worldwide, humans respond to the divine this way. Additionally we make secular music which is also a way of praising God’s gift of creativity, beauty and love. Often when watching some timeless expression of romantic love like Fred and Ginger dance to Cole Porter I’m reminded how this is haram in Islam – the music, the dancing, the touching, the evening clothes, the champagne – and I pity the fools in their baggy garb and highwater trousers with no music and a single book to read.

    • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      My thoughts exactly! And beautifully written.

      This is another aspect that separates Mohammadism from other religions.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:32 pm

      Fine post, Gen!

  5. Westman says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Earthquakes killed 5300 Pakistanis in 1974 and 86,000 in 2005. Does this mean there were 16 times as much musical instruments, songstresses, and wine in 2005?

    Allah(Muhammad’s puppet) has made life so miserable in Pakistan that joy must be obtained by sadism; raiding weddings and burning the musical instruments.

    Men without the beauty of music are exactly the beasts needed to commit mayhem in the name of the Moon God.

    Quite the strategy – take away everything that gives a man joy, the personal love from women, creative thought, the arts, and music until life is a dreg; then offer them all for killing infidels and spreading Islam.

  6. David F Barnard says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 11:56 am

    I have often wondered what would have happened to the music of Vienna if the King King Jan (John) III Sobieski of Poland, had not stopped Islam at Vienna’s gates on that first 9/11? Had they successfuly stormed Vienna in 1683 what would have become of Hayden (1732-1809), Mozart (1756-1791), Bethoven (1770-1827) and their creative legacy to the world? Or the art of Vienna and its kindred cities?

    What about art? No portraits? Looks like it is the enemy of creative expression from Renaissance to Western — even country western — no dogs, no women in tight jeans, no blues music to record their loss etc. Seriously what is left after Sharia .. takes over? Someone needs to send out the warning.

    • Kay says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 12:11 pm

      Yes. Our Judeochristian heritage:

      Praise him with trumpet sound;
      praise him with lute and harp!
      Praise him with tambourine and dance;
      praise him with strings and pipe!

      • Greyhound Fancier says

        Sep 10, 2017 at 4:43 pm

        Earth, moon, and stars, loud rushing planets,
        Sing to the Lord a new song!

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:33 pm

      All true. And Muslims want to destroy all art in the West–and will, if we let them.

  7. Voytek Gagalka says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    When you will hear about liquidation of Opera Houses and Symphony Orchestras in European (or North American) countries, you will know that darkness of sharia took its final grip. In some Arab countries (Egypt and Syria) you could find those institutions still in place and you know that full extend of sharia was not implemented there yet. But Iran? There was, before Khomeini’s putsch, quite active Symphony Orchestra in Tehran. Not any more. Why? According to Khomeini, “there is no fun in Islam.”

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      Grimly true.

  8. blitz2b says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Will says “…. Nice try, to fool a lot of ignorant progressives…… but those are Sikhs and Hindus …. go peddle your fantasy elsewhere …..”

    I don’t know why I should try to convince you brother however did you even bother to look at the link I provided?
    Those are all Muslim musicians and singers, with the exception of one Christian back up singer, Rachel Vasaji…
    My point is that Muslims are hypocrites they cherry pick from Islamic tenets.

    Check this song out… It has bilingual English/Urdu
    Lyrics and an awesome rock beat.

    I’m not trying to peddle any fantasy here. This is reality. Muslims in the west adhere to Islam while Muslims in Pakistan and Iran are gradually leaning to westernize their cultures.

    There is no joy in Islam and Muslims are waking up to that reality….
    Believe it or not…

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 9:38 pm

      These are *nominal* Muslims, blitz2b–and far from this becoming the norm in Dar-al-Islam as you appear to believe, it is rather an example of the remnant of Western influence in these Muslim countries.

      The idea that increasing exposure to civilized Western societies is responsible for oppressive Shari’ah law I’m afraid makes no sense.

  9. Jon Sobieski says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    I agree with Mo. Muslims should not be allowed to listen to music, own and play instruments. Any Muslim who does so is committing fitna and is an apostate and should be killed on the spot. Mo would be pleased.

  10. Guest says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Of course something as hideous as Islam would ban something beautiful like music

  11. Lydia says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    Psalm 150 PRAISE THE LORD…. with musical instruments!

    Praise the LORD! Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty expanse. Praise Him for His mighty deeds; Praise Him according to His excellent greatness. Praise Him with trumpet sound; Praise Him with harp and lyre. Praise Him with timbrel and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe. Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with resounding cymbals.…Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD!…

    Amen!

    Yet another point of contradiction between the ONE TRUE GOD; OF THE BIBLE, and the false god of islam!

  12. Andy says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    See what is going to happen folks if Islam get so powerful in a country, We can no longer enjoy a LOT of things we are enjoying now. As a matter a fact we will have to convert or be killed or pay Jizya

    I love music, my future daughter in law is an opera singer and she is a little woman with a BIG BEAUTIFUL voice and I couldn’t imagine not being able to hear her singing again. but, again this what Islam does wherever it reigns supreme.

    Why politicians are allowing Islam (which hates just about everything) to come across our western societies is beyond me?

    What does the Holy Bible say about music?

    https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-music.html

  13. Keys says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    This is very bad news; the Islamabad Philharmonic will need to be disbanded along with the Karachi Mariaci Band.

  14. Matthieu Baudin says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    Even Qaddafi got into this sort of thing and organised pogroms against pianos when he felt western culture was becoming too oppressive. It now looks like some Pakistani Sufis will soon have to hand in their tambourines. Meanwhile, across the eastern border Classical Indian Music continues its momentous contribution to the worlds cultural wealth.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 10, 2017 at 8:55 pm

      Ah, yes–the oppressiveness of pianos.

      In reality, Islam has always hated music, since the days of the “Prophet”.

  15. gravenimage says

    Sep 10, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    Pakistan: Islamic authorities ban musical gatherings, seize and burn musical instruments
    ……………………..

    Just like the “Prophet” himself. Orthodox Islam.

  16. nicholas tesdorf says

    Sep 11, 2017 at 5:31 am

    Burning of musical instruments occurs in Pakistan just as the burning of books occurred in Nazi Germany.

  17. John Forbes says

    Sep 11, 2017 at 9:09 am

    AFTER THE MANCHESTER BOMBING THEY WHEELED OUT A BISHOP WITH A SEVERE CASE OF ALZHEIMERS & HE WAS PROMPTED TO SAY ! WE MAY NEVER KNOW – HE HAD BY THIS TIME FORGOTTEN TO SAY WHAT !
    BUT THE LEAFLETS HANDED OUT ON AN OPEN DAY AT THE DIDSBURY MOSQUE SAYS THERE IS NO TRUTH OT HONESTY OR HONOUR IN DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY WHERE UP ON A MUSLIM LIAR FROM THE MOSQUE STATED IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT !
    ANOTHER LEAFLET STATES- WESTERN MUSIC IS IMMORAL !!!
    RAY CHARLES CAN HEAR THE LIES HERE & NEEDS NOT LOOK AT THE LEAFLETS !
    AMBER RUDD IN THE MEAN TIME WAS SO FRIGHTENED THAT SHE WOULD NOT LOOK EITHER !!

  18. Henner720 says

    Sep 11, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    Its simple. Its facism pure. It had its days back in the 30ies and until 45. Remember.lets give it opposition.

  19. Henner720 says

    Sep 11, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    Its possible to have a living promoting death in that country. Gangsta country.go to work produce something. No . No. Cause i like to be lazy. And as violent as i like . Cool.hate decent honest work. Love islam.love its winning. Love violence. I am gangsta. The world is a pussy. I feel gangsta. I feel cool all other agree on everything . Fuck you and your nigga music. Nigga full of rytmic sentiment. Stop all or we islams come and cut you. Ppl get baffled when you pray. Then they are pacified dumbwitzs.we decide now. Max irritating decisions. To be as assholed as possible. Love it. Love islam. Gangsta style.noone tur to stop us, cool.

  20. aMan says

    Sep 12, 2017 at 3:51 am

    The music is alive in Pakistan because of Sufis. Sufism is within Islam but much more liberal and opposite of it in many aspects, still it is a part of it.

    In mainstream Islam, music of any kind other than chanting of Quranic verses are disallowed. Sufism on the other hand not only takes recourse to music in praising God, but also introduced dance in the realm of worshipping Allah. Orthodox Muslims believe that dance and music are leisure activities and would distract the performer from truly serving God.

    Read more: Difference Between Islam and Sufism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-islam-and-sufism/#ixzz4sRtJp6gf

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