“Dr. Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa…expressed the appreciation of the Muslim world for the pope’s ‘fair positions’ regarding ‘the false claims that link extremism and violence to Islam,’ as well as for his insistence that extremism is not distinctive of Islam but is found among followers of all religions.”
In other words, he thanked the Pope for dissembling about the motivating ideology of jihad terror, which his group has been accused of financing, and for defaming other religions in an effort to whitewash Islam.
“Despite the group’s official opposition to violence and terrorism and its pursuit of intercultural dialogue, it has been the subject of several ongoing counterterrorism investigations in the U.S. related to Hamas, al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.”
Has the Pope met with any of the survivors of the Muslim persecution of Christians?
Let me be clear: I don’t object to the Pope’s meeting this man. After all, Jesus was a friend of tax collectors and sinners. But the meeting appears to have been a pointless feelgood session, probably featuring some sly dawah from al-Issa: “the two men reportedly exchanged views on a number of ‘issues of common interest’ including peace and global harmony, and discussed cooperation on issues of peaceful coexistence and the spread of love.”
The spread of love. Yes, that’s what the Muslim World League is all about.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Pope Francis Welcomes Leader of Muslim World League to Vatican,” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, September 21, 2017:
Pope Francis met with the secretary general of the Muslim World League (MWL) in the Vatican Wednesday, a group that has been tied to Saudi financing of jihadist terrorism and the 9/11 attacks in 2001.
Dr. Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa, who served for several years as Saudi minister of justice in Riyadh and is now secretary general of the MWL, expressed the appreciation of the Muslim world for the pope’s “fair positions” regarding “the false claims that link extremism and violence to Islam,” as well as for his insistence that extremism is not distinctive of Islam but is found among followers of all religions.
The Muslim World League is a Saudi Government-funded Islamic non-governmental organization, founded on May 18, 1962 in Mecca for the propagation of Islamic teachings. Despite the group’s official opposition to violence and terrorism and its pursuit of intercultural dialogue, it has been the subject of several ongoing counterterrorism investigations in the U.S. related to Hamas, al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
Two months after the 9/11 jihadist attacks on U.S. soil, Newsweek writer Evan Thomas reported that the Muslim World League was one of “two interrelated global charities” directly funded by the Saudi government that were used by Osama bin Laden to finance his operations. The organizations were left off the list of groups sanctioned by the United States “in order to avoid embarrassing the Saudi government,” Thomas wrote.
In 2004, Harper’s Magazine declared that the Muslim World League had been “long known to have funneled money to Al Qaeda” and is financed directly by the Saudi government. “MWL is an evangelical organization that was created to help spread Wahhabism, the Saudi brand of Islamic fundamentalism,” the article stated.
According to the New York Times, an internal, top-secret report from the Treasury Department obtained through the Freedom of Information Act stated that the International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), “an offshoot of the Muslim World League,” supported terrorist organizations beginning in the early 1990s “through to at least the first half of 2006.”
The MWL has also come under fire for its alleged anti-Semitism and the Anti-Defamation League claims that the MWL has frequently been a platform for anti-Israeli rhetoric. It has also been accused of using its English-language “Journal” to spread anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
At their first International Islamic Conference on Dialogue in Mecca in 2008, the MWL invited Yusuf al-Qaradawi to speak. During his speech, he said he would “never sit with Jews on one platform and never hold dialogue with those Jews who have committed injustice against us and support Israel.”
On Tuesday, Al-Issa spoke at an international conference in Rome on “Tolerance in Islam” along with Joseph Levi, the former chief rabbi in Florence, and Bishop Miguel Ángel Ayuso Guixot, secretary of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.
For his audience with the Pope, Al-Issa was accompanied by a delegation of seven people. The Vatican released a series of photographs of the encounter, during which the two men reportedly exchanged views on a number of “issues of common interest” including peace and global harmony, and discussed cooperation on issues of peaceful coexistence and the spread of love….
Morton Doodslag says
I see two imams gladhanding each other.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
Tom says
ISIS threatened POPE . Can we say this couldn’t happen to a nicer guy !
HE kissed their foot, ass and everything else and never spoke out against horrific rape, slaughter, abuse of christians hoping the jihadis would be pleased with him !
And now he even questions christians on their faith http://tinyurl.com/ydy8fkhl
while the hypocrite hides behind personal security and 40 feet high walls !
Ted Tyler says
Tom, I viewed your clip of Pope Francis and I don’t see him questioning Christians on their Faith. Rather I see him saying effectively the you need the Catholic Church.
The problem, as I see it, is that this Pope is too eager to love people who are not worthy of that love.
Matamoros says
“The problem, as I see it, is that this Pope is too eager to love people who are not worthy of that love.”
Come on man, are you serious?!?
He is saying that it is a big mistake to believe in God and Jesus without believing in the Catholic Church as an Institution.
He is making a Believer to a Sinner, almost, just because they dont accept the Hoax of the Catholic Church.
Sons of Liberty says
Ted Tyler , Jesus says we are to love our brother as ourselves ! We love the SINNER ,…but HATE THE SIN . We are to pray for the Muslims , who are LOST IN DARKNESS . Jesus said ,” I am the LIGHT OF THE WORLD ” , and he also said that ” you don’t hide the light ” . That is the problem I see with this Pope , he is hiding the light whenever he has a chance to shine the light on the darkness of ISLAM.
Ted Tyler says
I try to simplify (or oversimplify) things whenever I can.
For example: The Pope says: You need the Catholic Church. Martine Luther says: No! you Don’t.
boakai ngombu says
i see the PAPACY seeking to negotiate for protection.
Minutes1234 says
Yes!
Sons of Liberty says
Unfortunately ,..yes, ! Jesus would have met with him …but his response would have been , GET BEHIND ME SATAN .
pandainc says
Absolutely. Yes, He met with tax-collectors and sinners. Yes, he condemned their sins. This pope allows himself to be lied to — or worse — is complicit to, the Islamic attempts to take over the world. He is a loser.
John A. Marre says
Compare this to the pope greeting Trump. This man loves Jihadis as much as Barack Obama.
Robeaver says
The Pope loves Obama.. who knew?
mortimer says
The Pope (and practically all the European elites) do not know the name of what Robert Spencer calls ‘the motivating ideology of jihad terror’.
The NAME of Islam’s the motivating ideology is AL WALAA WAL BARAA (allegiance and disavowal). The MOTIVATION of Islam is HATRED DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DIRTY KAFIRS.
However, the METHOD of Islam’s war to PUNISH the dirty kafirs is called JIHAD.
Jihad is a common duty for all Muslims. All Muslims conduct VERBAL JIHAD by LYING about and DECEIVING in regard to jihad.
Verbal jihad CONCEALS the MOTIVE and METHODS of jihad.
Michael Copeland says
“Using deception to mask intended goals”
Is a stated aim in the Muslim Brotherhood plan.
It’s quite unaffected by Western opinion polls,
And is something we need to accept as soon as we can.
John Forbes says
The CHRISTIAN Catholic leader has gone MAD !
Has he not read the HISTORY of ISLAM against Christianity ?
Is is as though the ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD has collectively decided to not only be DECEIVED but to also FORGET HISTORY & accept lies as the TRUTH !
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
MULTICULTURALISM WORKS !
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS PROTECTS THE HOSTS – WHAT RUBBISH !
FREE SPEECH IS NOT NEEDED ?
ISLAMOPHOBIA – IS RACIST & THEREFORE ISLAM DESERVES & WILL GET EXCLUSIVE PROTECTION OVER & ABOVE ALL OTHER FAITHS ??
WITH THIS – DEMOCRACY DIES !!
Matamoros says
Very Good!!!
This Man indeed has gone Mad.
Richard says
This photo of the Pope and Dr. Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa epitomizes the Muslim expression, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” His mouth is smiling, but his eyes…
gravenimage says
Spot on, Richard.
underbed cat says
The Pope is being seduced by evil.He is being deceived, He sees a pretty picture..all immaculate white with a black gauze cover, even this smile is part of the deception and the words all tell a story. Tolerance, justice, five prayers a day, charity peace and the soul full regret of bad things happening for the cause of Allah….not our cause he might say, we have been hijacked, just like the planes that flew into NY and hit the buildings a horrible event he may say, but that is just history long ago and the Pope is seduced not knowing the words have two meanings one for the non muslim and one for the muslim and it is hate speech to expose this truth. Yes this jihad financier could smile and shake the hand of the Christian, since this Christian who has the power to say to the world Islam is peace this is a deadly deception, it has worked over and over even though the jihadist or terrorist says he desires to slay for Allah, he may claim to hate terrorism and want to fight it worldwide as he shakes the Popes hand.
The terrorist who flew the planes were following the words of the Quran, sharia law because they are guaranteed paradise committing jihad warefar against non muslims. It would be nice to think otherwise, but it would not pass as truth at this moment the Quran followers have grown nearly in every state and country still seduce world wide. What is a muslim, they read and follow the Quran obligatory for every muslim. This photo and meeting, you can bet was intended for that effect.
Robeaver says
Perhpas Popy is the anti christ? And the world is being led into hell.
Guy Macher says
Christ commanded us to love our enemies, not to aid and abet them.
gravenimage says
Exactly so, Guy.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
++1
No Fear says
+1
Sons of Liberty says
+++ 1 Exactly , Christ commanded us to love our enemies ,…not agree with them !
John S. Obeda says
As you know, Christ also commands us to pray for our enemies and this does not mean that we are to ignore their false doctrine and false practises. But a very serious blunder of the Roman Catholic church was to believe and to publish the *Nostra Aetate* of 1965 where it teaches “The church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one etc” and the church believes and published the *Lumen Gentium* of 1964 where it teaches “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims: these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” Since the pope believes that the Muslims worship the same God as Abraham and the Christians do, he then does what he does to the denial of the Truth (Jesus) and His doctrines and ways. Shame!
mariam rove says
This Pope is a joke to say the least. M
gravenimage says
Pope welcomes to Vatican the head of Muslim group tied to financing of jihad terror
………………..
Pope Francis is a fool at best.
Robeaver says
At least? He maybe evil. Revelation revealing itself. I guess I should wave to the good chosen people taken up in Rapture. So long, bye byem write soon.
Does the mail go up, or down? Does it swing both ways? Should I make 2 copies to hedge my bets?
I will be going down in a rupture. Write soon, or is that right, soon?
gravenimage says
What are you babbling about? Don’t you consider the pontiff playing footsie with Jihadists a troubling thing?
Wellington says
Seconded, gravenimage. Robeaver is a fool. And he’s even worse than just a fool. He is a fool who cannot write complete and coherent sentences (I think this is what I most object about him; after all, spouting nonsense is bad enough but spouting nonsense ungrammatically is simply beyond the bounds of anything remotely civilized).
Maybe he’s a very under-educated Christian. Maybe he’s a Mohammedan in thin disguise. Maybe he’s a Leftist just making more stupid trouble. Maybe he’s just a nothing at all. Don’t know for sure but he is not worth paying attention to in the long run, though I fully understand how such deficient people (whatever the reason for the deficiency du jour) must be answered from time to time, as you did.
Jack Dawkins says
SOD OFF
Krazy Kafir says
Pope Karl the 1st is the biggest dhimmi stooge in the west.
4) In ny opinion, Pope Franky may be looking for a luttle stash of cash on the side, amd what better way to get it than Linde Barrera says
To Krazy Kafir- 1) I love your moniker. 2) I refer to the current pope as “#Not my Pope Franky”. 3) In my opinion, Pope Franky is confusing doctrine with behaviors. 4) Also in my opinion, Pope Franky might be looking for a little stash of cash, and what better way to get that than to utter something nice about Islam ? and its devoted followers. ?
Linde Barrera says
To Krazy Kafir- I am sorry for the way my comment turned out. I do not know how that happened. Please read from where it states “Linde Barrera says”. Thank you.
Krazy Kafir says
I’m not sure what you mean Linde? I don’t see that comment.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
polezni durak
I wonder about leftists says
I was so touched by this photographs of the 2 men, it brought tears to my eyes.
I thought, now the whole world comes to order and everything will be hunky dory, not so, there is nobody and no country who speak the truth, they are all blackmailing each other, the leftists is another breed of people, and these 2 people on the photo are making a mockery of us, every day again and they still think, we believe it all, but I never knew that there were so many bad people in this world, how stupid I was.
WPM says
If this guy was the Pope in 1938 he would be shaking Hitler,s hand with both of them with grinning glassy eyed look on their faces. If he was Pope in 1948 he would be shaking Stalin,s hand the same way, what is wrong with him selling out Christians in the Middle East. Sitting down with the” bank” that is pushing for wiping out all the Jews in the world. No matter how many feet you wash or asses you kiss the Islamic leaders and the great Saudi “Bank” that pays to spread their racist filthy political idolatry {true Islam} all over the world, will wipe you out after your usefulness is gone.
MFritz says
There’s a sheep welcoming a wolf. You can easily tell who’s who by the grin.
RichardL says
Best comment by far. Thank you.
R Russell says
Am I being naïve to hope that the pope was explaining how the gentleman could obtain forgiveness for his sin according to the Christian worldview?……….
Jim Conch says
The pope has not said when he is tearing down the wall around the Vatican. He can always accommodate some of the refugees from Syria and some of the other countries instead of sending them over to the bad US, where that bad man Trump lives. He is such a dope.
Crystal says
What the Pope doesn’t seem to comprehend is that the Koran, hadiths, etc *demand* that their followers terrorize non-believers and kill them. The New Testament does not. If a Christian kills a non-believer he is doing it against the sayings of Jesus, but a murdering Islamist is doing it because of Mohamed’s sayings. I’m a afraid the Pope is using sophistry to normalize Islam. Sophistry in the sense that what he says sounds reasonable, but is actually illogical, because it starts with a false premise..
Robeaver says
Like the bible is just the new testament? Throw out those commandments and original sin. About time.
gravenimage says
Throw out the Commandments? So you think murder is fine? I’m sure you don’t.
And are you more concerned about the concept of original sin than about Muslims slaughtering us?
Lydia says
“…the appreciation of the Muslim world for the pope’s ‘fair positions’ regarding ‘the false claims that link extremism and violence to Islam,’ as well as for his insistence that extremism is not distinctive of Islam but is found among followers of all religions.”
“fair positions?” “false claims?” Uh, NO, those are true claims that link violence to islam. But, it is not their ‘extreme,’ it is their ‘norm.’
They are again using the term ‘extremism’ as if it is bad in and of itself, but it is not. They want to make the term bad and then apply it to us.
But using their meaning, NO, it is not found in all religions, violence is not found in Christianity, but in islam! You need to go to the source of the religion and that is the text. It’s a no brainer but in their case even more so since they have no brain.
And that last paragraph all about the lovey dovey warm and fuzzies!
Sure, world peace, dream on fools, dream on.
You won’t see peace until the return of Christ.
Lydia says
And, this is just more ground laying for his one world religion garbage.
Robeaver says
Sure. Go Raptures go! Because there have been no wars in the name of christ. Ever. So that works. No pedophiles working in any church, led by C.
That piece of world view is antidiluvian, but after life rafts were invented?
Raptures 1. World 6 billion. ?
Raptures announce trade: one pope for any superstitious belief. This should help the Raptues in the trenches, making condoms with holes in them, and denying aid to victims. Sorry, aids. Good rapture, down boy.
gravenimage says
Rob, of course individual Christians have done bad things, just like everyone else.
But Christianity does not teach rape and war–it condemns them. Would that we could say the same of Islam.
manat bint allaha says
i came across this piece just minutes ago:
https://muslimmatters.org/2017/09/20/how-the-progressive-left-wants-to-change-islam-in-america/
the comment section makes for an excellent reading: a young american muslim states that
“According to Pew’s 2017 study, 60% of young American-born Muslims believe homosexuality should be accepted by society. 55% believe that traditional interpretations of Islam need to change.”.
grab your popcorn, a cold beer, and enjoy watching him being ripped apart by pretty much every other muslim out there.
manat bint allaha says
p.s.
that should tell you everything you need to know about which way the islamic winds blow these days.
Robeaver says
And the reverse stats still want them throw off a roof.. but don’t do any math. Math bad. Whip out a per cent.
Wait, what is say 10 percent ( for you non math people’s, move the decimal point, or Google it) of 1.7 Billion? Is it a lot? More that 100?
Wellington says
Just from an historical point of view, never mind the modern psychological, logistical, demographic, financial, etc. implications of this man presently occupying the throne of St. Peter, he is a monumental historical disaster.
As much harm as Barack Obama did to the American Presidency (examples being piling up as as much debt as all previous Presidents combined, making the single worst deal with a foreign power in all of American history, i.e., the Iran nuclear deal, pathetically apologizing over and over again for the worst religion of all time {I think you know which religion I mean}, and stoking the flames of racial grievances), the present Pope, quite arguably, has done more harm to the institution of the Papacy than Barack Obama did to the American Presidency.
No mean feat to be sure. What a legacy.
Joe says
Francis is probably just getting started. All the Catholic prophecy that I know says that Francis is the last pope. In other words, Francis is so bad, the Catholic Church does not survive Francis. The Faith of the Catholic Church survives, however. The prophecies are many, but the primary ones are St. Francis, La Salette, Fatima, and St. Malachy.
KateM says
Joe,
In case you are not familiar with it, I would add Our Lady of Akita. That is an approved appration that took place in Japan.
Wellington says
For the record, Joe, no prophecy about the last pope and all that, especially the Malachy one, has ever been officially endorsed by the Catholic Church, including under very sensible and sterling pontiffs like the previous occupant of the throne of St. Peter, Benedict XVI.
Tom says
This is the imposter communist pope greeting yet another imposter.
Birds of a feather. Enough said.
More Ham Ed says
“claims that link extremism and violence to Islam”
Who’s doing all the “linking” to islam (lowercase be upon it)?
31780 deadly documented ISLAMIC terror attacks since 9/11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Jack Holan says
I’m still waiting word that that Pope Francis has been invited to conduct an ecumenical service in a Mosque in perhaps Mecca or Medin to reciprocate the Pope’s counter offers that were accepted have taken place.
Sun K. says
It is deeply disturbing how much influence this religious minority gained in a short period of time – all over the world.
tim gallagher says
Islam is motivated by hate, ferocious hate for non-Muslims. Christianity, which this Pope is supposed to represent and protect, is motivated by love. The are polar opposites and can’t live in harmony. I guess I can see how this Pope, and many other Christians of the pacifist variety, just think of endlessly turning the other cheek, but that is idiotic when confronting evil Islam. I mean Christians aren’t meant to commit suicide which is what pacifism will lead to when facing up to murderous Islam. The Pope either knows nothing about Islam’s nature or he just lies and lies about Islam’s violent nature even though he is aware of it, which is being complicit in evil. He has nothing worthwhile to contribute on the issue of Islam, that’s for sure. Unfortunately, I’m sure he is doing damage by helping people, who respect his position as leader of the Catholic Church, remain ignorant of Islam’s evil nature. Some people would take notice of his foolish pronouncements about Islam.
Carolyne says
The Pope does not represent Christianity. He represents Catholicism. I am an Atheist, so certainly he doesn’t represent my philosophy on the supernatural, so his actions and pronouncements mean nothing to me. He is, however, damaging those Christians who believe in his authority.
Ted Tyler says
I believe that Pope Francis is basically a good person who has been taken in by Islamic propaganda. He believes that if you be nice to Muslims, then they will be nice to you – and that will not happen.
Obviously, he knows very little about Islamic philosophy or its mission – and because of that ignorance – we are all in peril.
tim gallagher says
Ted, that’s what I meant to say in my comment above. I have met quite a few Christians over the years, who are of what I call the pacifist, being endlessly gentle and nice variety, and always turning the other cheek. No doubt it’s part of being a Christian. They are probably better Christians than I will ever be, but their naivety is dangerous. As I said, and you say in your comment, this being nice to violent groups like Muslims and expecting the same back, is really suicidal. It won’t happen. This committing suicide in the pacifist way is imbecilic. People have to wake up, face the truth about evil Islam and get tough, and take the measures that are necessary to protect non-Muslims. To me, the main thing we need to do is try to shut all Muslims out of all non-Muslim countries. The Pope keeps saying just let the invading refugees in. One thing is for sure, and this is where this foolish Pope, and other similar leaders, are very wrong. The Christian God doesn’t call for us to commit suicide, well, cultural suicide, by letting Muslims into our countries. Christian Europe had to throw the Muslims out in the past. And, of course, the Pope should know about Islam and its violent nature. There’s really no excuse for his ignorance. Many people would, unfortunately, take notice of what he says, as Carolyne acknowledges. AnotherJWreader, I hope he does care about people but is just ignorant.
Debi Brand says
If Dr. Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa’s face (as featured above) is not a face one could trust, what would be?
‘ has “Trust me” both exuding and billowing from him.
bobm says
Vanity Fair..
concerned citizen says
God help us and forgive our sins! It is very sad to see a Pope doing such things; he is a very bad influence indeed; but please remember that there is nothing at all infallible about the Pope’s doing and saying, except when he speaks officially in the name of the Church from the Chair (“ex cathedra”) and about Dogma or Moral (that is Catholic Church Doctrine, by the way). Politics and Islamic doctrines are not such subjects, of course, He should read St. Thomas Aquinas (and others) about Islam…. He should listen to other people; there are in the vatican many priests, bishops and cardinals who know firsthand what Islam really is.
Is he really bad, or just senile? Is his humilty “fake” or real?Whatever the case,may God send the Church better guides!
(Please forgive any grammar/spelling mistakes; I am not a native speaker/writer of English)!
Carolyne says
Your English and grammar are both excellent.
I don’t think the Pope means to be evil, nor does he know he is evil, it is just the nature of the position which he holds to be evil. It is ‘way past time that humans think any one person can speak for a supernatural being. It is all illusion, invented by primitive men to help alleviate the fear of death. “Do as I say or the devil will get you.”
Counting beads and seeing visions are all part of the illusion.
nicholas tesdorf says
Perhaps the Pope thinks that he will pick up a few tips from the Muslims before he begins his final push against the Protestants. Otherwise, he is wasting his time talking to them.
Henner720 says
He laughs cause pope do not seem to know even after this circumstantial evidence, they want rome, and his head on a islam stick.they do not want money. He does. We know. They know.it is a pretend game.
Get a clue says
Has there ever been a bigger moron as Pope?
Get a clue says
Has there ever been a bigger moron as Pop, ever?
Carolyne says
No.
ctlawson says
HUMILITY IS NOT BOWING DOWN TO ANTHER MANS GOD ?
Politicianaphobia says
“No Muslim can believe that another being can be a “deity”, nor can he believe that one can “worship” a creature of God or that he can be given a position of “sovereignty”
Politicianaphobia says
“In this world there is only one party of God; all others are parties of Satan and rebellion. There is only one law which ought to be followed, and that is the Shari’ah from God; anything else is mere emotionalism and impulsiveness. A Muslim can have only two possible relations with Dar-ul-Harb: peace with a contractual agreement or war.”
Politicianaphobia says
Taysir