The Trump administration: now digitally McMastered.
“Instead of naming the enemy, Trump seemingly went out of his way to use other descriptors in his speech, including ‘terrorists who attacked us,’ ‘barbaric forces of evil and destruction,’ ‘horrible, horrible enemies,’ ‘enemies of all civilized people,’ and ‘enemies like we’ve never seen before.'”
That’s great, Mr. President, but you will find it impossible to defeat these horrible, horrible enemies without identifying and working to devise ways to confront their motivating ideology. That’s what you seemed to be promising to do when you rebuked Obama and Hillary Clinton for not daring to say “radical Islamic terrorism.” Now you have joined them. You were right the first time.
“9/11/2017: Trump, Pence, Mattis, Sessions Fail to Name ‘Radical Islamic Terrorism,’” by Aaron Klein, Breitbart, September 11, 2017:
NEW YORK — On the sixteenth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, Islamic terrorist attacks, President Donald Trump did not once mention the terms “radical Islam” or “Islamic terrorism” during a commemoration ceremony at the Pentagon.
Those phrases were also not mentioned in speeches today by other Trump administration senior officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, Defense Secretary James Mattis, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
Instead of naming the enemy, Trump seemingly went out of his way to use other descriptors in his speech, including “terrorists who attacked us,” “barbaric forces of evil and destruction,” “horrible, horrible enemies,” “enemies of all civilized people,” and “enemies like we’ve never seen before.”
Similarly, Pence, speaking at the Flight 93 National Memorial in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, referred to the scourge as “evil terrorists” and “global terrorism.” Pence did mention “the barbarians known as ISIS,” calling the global jihadist group by its acronym instead of the Islamic State.
Mattis, addressing the same Pentagon memorial as Trump, outwardly minimized the Islamic motivations of the terrorists by calling them “maniacs disguised in false religious garb.” He referred to “attackers perpetrating murder” on that fateful day, not even using the words “terrorist” or “terrorism.”
Sessions perhaps came closest to prescribing a religious ideology, calling out “extremists” who “seek to impose their speech codes, their religion, their theocracy.”
“For these extremists, it’s more than religion; it’s ideology,” he stated. “We have no choice but to defend against it.”
But Sessions did not mention a specific religion and did not expound upon which ideology the terrorists maintain.
When speaking of common threads among terrorists, Sessions also failed to mention the one major thread of Islam when he stated:
While the threats we face are diverse and evolving, terrorist ideologies have one thing in common: their disregard for the dignity of human life and they share an obsession with forcing everyone into their twisted ideology. And the terrorists know they can’t persuade people using reason, so they use coercion and intimidation. They seek acquiescence and inaction.
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke released a brief statement that referred to the 9/11 radical Islamic jihadist perpetrators as “terrorists.”
Trump’s reluctance to name the actual enemy contrasts with speeches he gave in the past, including during the 2016 presidential campaign, in which he repeatedly utilized the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism.”
“America was under attack,” stated Trump at Monday’s Pentagon memorial, a passive tone that did not specify who the attackers were.
“Today, our entire nation grieves with you and with every family of those 2,977 innocent souls who were murdered by terrorists 16 years ago,” he stated.
“The terrorists who attacked us thought they could incite fear and weaken our spirit. But America cannot be intimidated, and those who try will soon join the long list of vanquished enemies who dared to test our mettle.”
Trump went on to use various other terms to describe the enemy:
In the years after September 11, more than five million young men and women have joined the ranks of our great military to defend our country against barbaric forces of evil and destruction. American forces are relentlessly pursuing and destroying the enemies of all civilized people, ensuring — and these are horrible, horrible enemies, enemies like we’ve never seen before — but we’re ensuring they never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country. We are making plain to these savage killers that there is no dark corner beyond our reach, no sanctuary beyond our grasp, and nowhere to hide anywhere on this very large earth.
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So here at this memorial, with hearts both sad and determined, we honor every hero who keeps us safe and free, and we pledge to work together, to fight together, and to overcome together every enemy and obstacle that’s ever in our path.
Pence did quote a previous statement from Trump about terrorists’ “radical ideology” but, like the other administration officials speaking, did not say what that ideology was:
But under the leadership of President Donald Trump, as our commander-in-chief, our armed forces have ISIS on the run in Iraq and Syria, and we will not rest or relent until we hunt down and destroy them at their source. Some four weeks ago, President Trump expressed the full commitment of the United States to, in his words, “destroy terrorist organizations and the radical ideology that drives them.
The uniform lack of the mention of radical Islamic terrorism from the administration Monday comes after previous reports that H.R. McMaster, Trump’s embattled national security adviser, has petitioned against using the phrase.
In February, CNN cited a source inside a National Security Council meeting quoting McMaster as saying that use of the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism” is unhelpful in working with allies to fight terrorism.
In May, McMaster spoke on ABC’s This Week about whether Trump would use the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism” in a speech that the president was about to give in Saudi Arabia. “The president will call it whatever he wants to call it,” McMaster said. “But I think it’s important that, whatever we call it, we recognize that [extremists] are not religious people. And, in fact, these enemies of all civilizations, what they want to do is to cloak their criminal behavior under this false idea of some kind of religious war.”…
M says
Chump?
Minutes1234 says
Trump.
Bob says
Already crumbling before muslims!
johan elzinga says
I thought from the beginning that Trump was a disgrace and an utterly stupid idiot. His only saving grace was his ability to mention inconvenient facts such as the fact that Islam is in itself a violent and oppressive terror organisation. Or the America first call, pounding that the idea is misstaken that borders should be open to products and people without restriction. That this is in fact an idea that will be the undoing of your beautiful country. Alas, he tried but now seems to have given up!
D Austin says
Hey, Johan, There’s a well-known phrase in America:
“When you are up to your ass in alligators it’s difficult to remember that your initial objective was to drain the swamp”.
gravenimage says
True, Johan.
Gordon Miller says
This fairly recent development ( avoiding the term “radical Islamic terrorism” ) is very distressing to many of us, who chastised Obama for doing the same thing. I hope I am wrong, but it appears Trump is falling under the influence of McMaster and his minions. This notion does square with Trump’s proclivity to rely on the sentiments of his military entourage above all others, but it is antithetical to the views expressed in his campaign rhetoric.
Perhaps there is some political reason or a strategy hidden from us that has caused this development and does not reflect a substantive change in our President’s world view or policy. There’s no way to know. He doesn’t tell us everything and there’s nothing per se wrong with that.
Let’s hope that our President still shares the view, as do many of us, that the major enemy to the survival of Western civilization is Islam, pure and simple.
John Forbes says
We can all thank MCMASTER for this ! This guy is a PLANT from the OBAMA ERA & Needs to be REMOVED!
ISLAM is attacking the WEST relentlessly & STILL Western Nations refuse to listen ????
TRUMP needs to be sharply reminded that a BIG part of the reason he was elected was to STOP this continual appeasement & to get RID of the Muslim Brotherhood & C.A.I.R & its lead falsehood leader – Honest IB -the GREAT FALSE PREMISE MAN & TOP LIAR IBRAHIM HOOPER !!
nicu says
he has forgotten what he said BEFORE the elections – typical politicians disease
Westman says
I’m not going to be that harsh. The courts have been using Trump’s former statements to justify holding up immigration controls. Toning down the rhetoric is understandable in light of getting something done. I’m not confused about what they mean without saying “radical Islam”. Frankly, if we really expect progress we have to be as cunning as CAIR and the SPLC.
On another note, I’m proud of my neighbors. We have as many flags out today(9/11) as on the 4th of July. We haven’t forgotten this great country and our fellow patriots, fallen, and living. All our love to you patriots out there:
And I’m proud to be an American,
Where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
Who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
Next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
gravenimage says
Glad to hear there are so many flags out on 9/11, Westman.
K says
Very well stated!
t. says
What you and your neighbors are doing is great, Westman!
Meanwhile, what are you intending to do concerning this major problem, that probably doesn’t plaque only the US but other western governments, as well, namely successive administrations, from all parties continue in the same line of thought and policy regarding the threat of Islam; even that of Trump whom everybody thought that he’s totally different and will change things.
What’s the use of a so-called democracy when the majority of people’s voices are not listened to, such as of those who elected Trump, mainly based on his promises regarding confronting the real enemy which is Islam’s ideology and teachings?
Look now at what is taking place, It’s a mockery of democracy, all those great men and women who sacrificed their lives in the last 200 years, fighting for real freedoms and all the values that at least many people in the west thought they stood for.
I believe what we’re seeing now is that the elites and people in command are sacrificing the future of our children, grand children and all humanity for the sake of money and short term material comforts. Stupidity in abundance!
Westman says
I agree with your assessment, t. I’m worried it will take something much more threatening than 9/11 to make patriots of the “lazy-faire” left. Most of those rioting university students were 4 to 5 years old on 9/11. All they know is propaganda from the left media and indoctrination in the schools.
Islam can’t help itself; the college kids will get their education in reality.
M says
There’s some truth to that.
Walter Sieruk says
Don’t let them fool you, the many apologists for Islam is will endeavor to set up a smokescreen to hide the reality of the truth about the violence and deadly essence of Islam by making the bogus claim that the al Qaeda operatives mass murderer on 9/11 were not real Muslims and that they were breaking the laws of the Qu ‘ran by their violence and deadly actions.” The apologists for Islam will further make the totally false claim that “Those terrorists on 9/11 were only criminals who hijacked the peaceful religion of Islam for Politics.” Those outrageously false claims are weak attempt of damage control for the image of Islam to the West. For the “holy book” of Islam the Qu ‘ran. For the Qu ‘ran instruct in Sura 9:111. Muslims who are engaging the jihad that “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain ,they kill and are killed “ That’s just what happened on September 11, 2001 the jihadists of al Qaeda “killed and were killed” in those 9/11 jihad attacks against both humankind and America. The Quran also teaches in Sura 9:123 to that jihad –minded Muslims behavior towards non-Muslims “let them find harshness in you…” Those Islamic attacks on 9/11 were indeed very “harsh.” As Sura 2:191 instructs “kill the disbeliever wherever you find them.” That’s a very strange kind of “peaceful religion” if there ever was one. Just to site one more out on many from the Qu ‘ran about the instruction of deadly violence is Sura 47:4. Which instructs “Whenever you encounter unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them …” Let’s face it, using jet planes a missiles as those jihadist/ Muslims did of September 11, sure made a greater “slaughter among them” then sword can. Wake up West to the actual nature of Islam before it’s too late.
Walter Sieruk says
On the day of September 9 2016 some man I know who works as a security guard at a public place told me a Muslim actually had the nerve to walk over to him and said to him two Muslim “Jokes” about 9/11. As if it was a funny subject. It’s wrong to even try to “joke” about 9/11. Talk about bad “jokes” those two are the very much worst of all. The first was “What is the difference between September 11, 20001 and a cow?” answer “You don’t keep milking a cow after fifteen years.” Not only is that “joke” awful but those Muslims trying to be funny by say that cruel thing do have some gall because they have no room to talk . For they are still are “milking” the topic of the crusades and the crusades have been over for well more than seven hundred years. What gall they have! The second “Muslim “joke” about 9/11 is “On September 11, 2001 the people trapped on the upper floors of the WTC had ordered their pizza sent to them plane.” To say that such “humor” is terrible is an understatement. Furthermore, those Muslim who say those “jokes” are really only exposing their own sick, vicious, callous and heartless Islamic mindset.”
Walter Sieruk says
On September 11,2001 many Muslims rejoiced in different countries around the world then they found about the outcome of those al Qaeda jihad attacks in which so many people died . They were so glad and happy about all those people who died in such terrible ways. The reason they felt so happy with joy is because ,as the Bible explains such people have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. {K.J.V.] For them that “hot iron” is Islam
Walter Sieruk says
Those heinous and murderous jihad attack which occurred on September 11,2001 reflect the teaching of the “holy book” of Islam, the Quran. As, for example, the Quran instructs in Sura 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed…” Those jihadist /Muslims who were al Qaeda operatives by using jets as missiles on 9/11 were following the instruction of the Quran to “Kill and be killed” for the cause of Islam Nevertheless, the apologists for Islam still have the gall to make the claim the “Islam is a peaceful religion.” What an outlandishly false claim to make
Jake says
Maybe he left it ambiguous because he thinks there might have been a government conspiracy involved? I don’t know, I’m trying to be optimistic. At least he isn’t praising Islam on the anniversary of 9/11 speech.
gravenimage says
Wait–you feel “optimistic” that Trump may no longer consider Islam a threat, but now believes that George Bush or the CIA instead murdered thousands of their fellow citizens?
How would *that* be a good thing?
Jake says
No, he’d still believe Islam is a threat, just maybe the government did 9/11 or helped. It’s not about if they did it back then. They’re still a threat NOW, what with ISIS and all.
gravenimage says
Oh, God–another “Truther”.
Has it ever occurred to you that it might be odd that Muslims celebrated 9/11–a strange thing to do if it was pulled off by George Bush or the CIA or Mossad?
Do you find it odd that 9/11 is still considered by pious Muslims to be the ideal of Jihad against the filthy Infidels?
Has it ever occurred to you that it would be odd that Jihad is an Islamic thing, but that Infidel Americans out of the blue sixteen years ago would decide to wage Jihad against their own citizens?
I guess Osama bin Laden was just a poor “scapegoat”…
You did do one thing that no “Truther” has done in the intervening years, though, and I guess that is something–you seem to have answered the question about all of those ensuing Jihad terror attacks–you appear to believe that they were actually done by Jihadists.
So in your case you just consider Infidels responsible for the worst Jihad attack of modern times, and the inspiration for the resurgence of Jihad terror.
Still pretty disgusting–not to mention obviously false.
Jake says
Gravenimage, I’m not a further. I’m just hoping that Trump’s reason for not mentioning Islam may have been that as opposed to the other possibility of him caving to Islam. For the love of God, it doesn’t really matter if they did 9/11 or not at this point. They are still attacking us. Even if it were to turn out we framed them fir 9/11 (not saying we did, this is just a hypothetical), it still would not in aby way justify what they’ve done to us since. So even if Trump were a 9/11 further, he’d probably still acknowledge that Jihadists are a threat.
D Austin says
What’s odd about pious Muslims believing they did the whole enchilada? You believe it! Always nice to have patsies in order to initiate globalist changes.
The Pentagon’s New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-First Century
https://www.amazon.com/Pentagons-New-Map-Twenty-First-Century/dp/0425202399
The New Map of the Middle East
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-new-map-of-the-middle-east/
How do you arrive at “out of the blue”? Air intercept rules were changed prior. An exercise for the very same scenario was going on at the same time – gosh what a coincident, them Muslims must have great intelligence in and out of that Afghanistan cave.
Osama bin Laden initially denied involvement. What’s up with that? Bin Laden stated that he was living in Afghanistan at the time of the attacks and that “I have held talks with His Eminence Amir ol-Momenin [Taleban leader Mola Mohammad Omar Mojahed], who does not allow such acts to be carried out from Afghanistan’s territory.” Again on September 28, 2001 in an interview with Karachi Ummat, bin Laden denies any involvement with the attacks and further denied that al-Qaeda had anything to do with plotting and carrying out the attacks.
The FBI Wanted poster for Osama bin Laden never listed the World Trade Center attack. https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/bin-laden-killed
Don’t be so gullible McFly. The US government lies to the people about 70% of the time and keeps them deceived 100% of the time.
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gravenimage says
Jake, your belief that it makes no difference whether people believe that Jihad is caused by Americans mass murdering people to make Islam look bad is simply mistaken.
gravenimage says
D Austin–another one who would rather believe that his own government is slaughtering its citizens than that Islam presents a threat. *Ugh*.
D Austin says
gravenimage…
“The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” ~ Ronald Reagan
I detect some lingering leftist brainwashing from your days at Berkeley…
D Austin says
Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11
https://nypost.com/2017/09/09/saudi-government-allegedly-funded-a-dry-run-for-911/
It’s just those few nagging questions that haven’t been answered yet…
1. Why was the video of the Mineta testimony removed from the 9/11 Commission website?
2. Why hasn’t the government addressed the “coincidence” of Able Danger? It is a case of a terror drill providing plausible deniability for the terror act embedded within the drill.
3. What explains the failure of the Government to release the many videotapes of the plane, on approach, that struck the Pentagon? It’s 12 years later, where are the tapes?
4. Why was there a change in the scramble/intercept procedure three months prior to 9/11 for jets that are off course accompanied by a change in the shoot down orders?
5. What explains the failure of the government to scramble jets over a period of an hour and twenty eight minutes between the Twin Towers being struck and the crash in Pennsylvania? With this kind of air security, Somalia could successfully invade the United States.
6. How could the unrelated events of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq be successfully linked which culminated in the demise of Saddam Hussein despite strong evidence to the contrary?
7. What explains the well documented (e.g., Kevin Phillips) Bush/Cheney plans to invade both Afghanistan and Iraq within the first 10 days of the Bush Administration. This was well in advance of 9/11? However, 9/11 was used as the excuse in the early days of our military action to justify these unwarranted invasion. Why wasn’t this contradiction investigated?
8. The well documented engineering and architectural arguments which clearly demonstrate that the fire and heat generated by the planes striking the Twin Towers were insufficient to melt the core of the buildings. Why doesn’t this evidence support the 911 Commission findings? Why hasn’t a Congressional investigation looked into this striking discrepancy?
9. What could explain the almost near free-fall collapse of all three towers which defies the official explanation? Never before in the history of engineering and planes crashing into buildings has a building come down in such a free-fall and symmetrical manner? Building 7 wasn’t hit by anything.
10. Where are the pieces of plane wings that supposedly struck light poles on its approach to the Pentagon? Shouldn’t independent investigators be able to examine these wings to determine the authenticity of the 9/11 report on this topic. The trust me approach did not fly in 2001 and it damn sure doesn’t in 2013.
11. The attack upon the Pentagon appears to any layman who looks at this evidence to look more like a missile strike than an airplane crash. Why does the circumference of the hole in the Pentagon greatly differ from the width of the plane? Why is there an exit hole on the backside of the building since the plane melted upon impact? Where is the debris field that one would expect on the backside of the building?
12. What about the pop outs we see on each floor of the WTC buildings before the collapse? Howe could this not be considered to be a controlled demolition?
13. Where are the skid marks on the lawn prior to impact at the Pentagon that would have been left by the plane which supposedly struck the Pentagon?
14. What about the evidence which strongly suggests that 11 nations warned the United States about the possibility of such an attack?
15. Maintenance worker, William Rodriguez, was the last man out of the Twin Towers. At 8:46AM, Rodriguez reports that he heard two distinct explosions, seven seconds apart, which emanated from the floors below him. Rodriguez also reports the two explosions occurred before the planes hit the towers. Rodriguez was interviewed by the 911 Commission for 30 minutes, in secret, behind closed doors. His testimony is conspicuously absent from the 9/11 Report. So why did the last man out of the Towers manage to have testimony left out of the 9/11 Commission Report?
16. Brigham Young University professor, Steve Jones, concluded that super thermite was used to bring down the Towers, including Tower 7, through a controlled demolition. Jones contends that he was warned by governmental officials that if he published his results his personal “pain would be great.” And the warning proved prophetic as Jones was fired his job as a professor after publishing his results. How does a tenured university professor get fired for publishing legitimate research results when the peer review process could have been utilized to analyze and discredit the Jones’ claims?
17. Ground Zero rescue worker, Mike Bellone, claims he was approached by unknown FBI agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002. In the 9/11 Commission Report, Chapter 1, footnote 76, there is the sole but definitive reference to the airline “black boxes”: “The CVR’s and the FDR’s [voice and flight data recorders] from American 11 and United 175 were not found.” With this obvious contradiction, why weren’t these two rescue workers interviewed by the 911 Commission?
18. How could all four black boxes not be retrieved by the FBI when nearly ALL crashes through course of modern aviation history, do retrieve the black box?
We have a solemn duty to the dead to expose the truth and it is clear that despite the trail of damning evidence which points the finger at the Saudis for their role, even a successful verdict in the current lawsuit does not explain away the coverup of the Bush administration. There is much more to this story than the trial will reveal and I will be back here again, next year, to raise both new question and to repeat the unanswered questions.
There is one conclusion that can be accurately made regarding the events of September 11th, 2001, America lost its identity. The Constitution is no more, the rule of law is no more and it can be accurately said that this event marked the downfall of the country as we knew it.
A P.E. says
Wrong in one, wrong in all.
The Trade Towers did not have a central supporting “core”. The Towers were supported by a perimeter, supporting shell (monocoque structure). Once that supporting shell is substantially breached, failure is imminent.
Undaunted says
Dumb.
gravenimage says
All true, A P.E..
Looks like yet another “Truther”.
Voytek Gagalka says
It seems that the longer McMaster remains his “national security” advisor, the bigger influence he has on him. Now with “good” (or at least better) people gone from his cabinet, who else will advise him PROPERLY if he himself is nothing but clueless pragmatist only and possess absolutely no ideological spine? Receipt for disaster, long-range. But precisely it is incapacity of thinking and planning long-range which is lacking in a typical pragmatist.
gravenimage says
Trump, Pence, Mattis, Sessions fail to name “Islamic terrorism” in 9/11 remarks
…………………
Very discouraging.
PRCS says
Better if they would say “jihadists” and let Muslims whine about that.
gravenimage says
Agreed, PRCS.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Trump didn’t call out the source of the great mass murder, the oh so outrageously success that constrains us and costs us dearly every day all these 16 yrs later, both in lost freedom and lost wealth.
The president has surrounded himself with generals. Here’s a question: how many years has it been since the Pentagon brought in credible Islam experts to clue military leadership in on who and what they’re a war against? My guess is about 12 or 13 yrs ago. When you look at Gen. “Lap Dog” Mattis you’re looking at someone who’s been scrubbed. that term used in the sense of informational hygiene, not health hygiene.
Jaladhi says
How quickly Trump forgot, it were Muslims who attacked on 9/11. Must be the advisors pushing him in the direction of political correctness. This is rewriting of history – 16 years after the Islamic attack, we cannot call what it was – just use vague words so that everybody is happy especially the Muslims!!
The West is doomed as it cannot speak the truth for fear of offending the attackers and is also not interested in defending itself so that the attackers won’t get mad!
AnneM says
Except for those online on the internet. That is where the TRUTH is getting out.
PRCS says
As no Muslim on the planet is either follows or a practices “radical Islam”, I’m gratified that none of them used that stupid, stupid term.
But their failure to cite Islam and jihadists is inexcusable.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Inexcusable and routine, so routine that it almost seems to required by some rule we’re unaware of.
PRCS says
Well, pretty sure whose rule that is.
tim gallagher says
I’m constantly amazed by these political “leaders”, like Trump in this speech, who just won’t name islam, all of the murderous, evil ideology, as the source of all these endless terrorist attacks throughout the world. They should be a s blunt and truthful about Islam’s evil nature as Robert Spencer is. Only the leaders of Hungary, Czech Republic and Poland seem to be exceptions. You get no mealy-mouthed crap from them at least. The leaders throughout the world should be constantly hammering Islam, telling the unvarnished truth about it. Or is it that they still don’t even know about the calls for violence throughout the Koran. No excuse for their ignorance if that is the case. I think the USA is now free of dependence on Muslim Arab oil. Many other countries still depend on Muslim Arab oil, such as Australia, where I live, so I’ve often thought this has to be the real reason our political leaders won’t speak truthfully about Islam’s evil nature. Maybe they fear an oil boycott or something. I loathe this gutless refusal to bluntly tell the truth about Islam, all of Islam. PRCS and Alarmed Pig Farmer, this refusal to tell the truth about Islam is the routine formula and definitely inexcusable.. Still, Trump is at least tougher than many others around the world.
PRCS says
Thanks for your post, tim.
I agree that Trump is tougher than many others, but until he and his staff just man up and tell the truth about written, Orthodox Islam, Muslims will continue to lie about it.
That’s the primary problem, IMO.
Xero_G says
Smug politicians and pundits, brainwashed by fear of being called an “Islamophobe” deny that Jihad terror is Islamic (or even “religious”) yet they won’t simply open a Koran and read chapter 8 or 9 to find out the truth for themselves. Cowards and fools, all. Trump is apparently being duped by McMaster. Shame.
Logically-speaking says
Most likely Trump was “bought over” since his visit to the Saudi.
gravenimage says
Donald Trump has plenty of money. The idea that he has caved due to Muslim bribes seems unlikely.
I think it is more that he never knew much about Islam, and now has supposedly knowledgeable generals spoonfeeding him this mealy-mouthed pap.
PRCS says
That’s probably not the only reason, but perhaps the primary one.
Magali Marc says
Is it possible that Trump has not changed his mind at all but is just humoring Mattis and McMaster because he wants to get military results and the support of the RINOs in Congress?
gravenimage says
Being mistaken about the nature of your enemy is not a positive–and lying about it is even worse.
Moshe says
Mr. Spencer, perhaps the new language of President Trump and his Cabinet is for the best. I share this in light of an experience last week in the United Kingdom. The story is as follows.
On the coach from Heathrow Airport to Oxford, there is free wireless. Your site was blocked as was that of Ms. Pamela Geller; this was not surprising given your ban from Britain.
What was surprising was that the sites for Lucianne.com, Pjmedia.com, Israelnationalnews.com and timesofisreael.com were also blocked. The latter is a Left-Center newspaper in Israel.
A colleague explained to me that your ban has had ripple effect to block even Left-Center Jewish sites associated with Zionism.
Hence the wisdom of President Trump’s new language. The perception of Islamophobia in your site and that of your colleague Ms. Geller led to a broad blockage of many sites. This might not have happened if only your language had been more moderate. Do you see the logic of this? President Trump is protecting our liberties by avoiding language offensive to the moderate Muslim community.
Jake says
I’m pretty sure you can complain if they are blocking any sites relates to Zionism, as that’s Judaian. Anti-Semitic blockingshould cause an uproar. Also, no, democracy and freedom die not with a bang, but a whimper. If you silence yourself or censor yourself, soon all you’ll be able to do is whimper.
gravenimage says
So, Moshe–opposing violent Jihad is not “moderate” enough? Has it occurred to you that this is part of the problem?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“The perception of Islamophobia in your site and that of your colleague Ms. Geller led to a broad blockage of many sites. This might not have happened if only your language had been more moderate.”
How dhimmi of you Moshe!
“Do you see the logic of this?”
Logic? Really? Let me see …. if only Chamberlain had flown to Munich with a peace deal then there wouldn’t have been a second world war. duh.
Robert Spencer says
“Moshe”:
It is impossible for me to believe that you’re serious. In reality, the facts you’ve presented show that even temporizing and dissembling about the nature and magnitude of the threat will not get you past the Left-fascists.
PRCS says
Just heard Martha MacCallum regurgitate the “radical Islamic extremism” meme.
1. At what point has that “filthy kafir” determined that a Muslim’s compliance with Islam’s texts crosses over the line to Islamic “extremism”?
2. And at what point has that woman decided that Muslims–superior to her in every way–have reached that pinnacle of submission–“radical” Islamic extremism?
gravenimage says
Even saying “Islamic extremism” is closer to the truth than just ignoring its source entirely, PRCS.
PRCS says
I absolutely disagree with you.
Sixteen years, today, since 9/11.
There’s just no good excuse for the ongoing obfuscatory euphemisms.
Maybe in another 16, ya think?
gravenimage says
PRCS, I definitely agree with you. I just meant that not naming the perpetrators *at all* is even worse than calling it “radical Islam”.
I hate having to parse something like this, but there are so few even partially telling the truth these days.
Robert_k says
It’s like failing to mention Nazi (National Socialism) when fighting Germany. Germany would have kept Mein Kamp as its Bible after WW II and National Socialism as its dogma if we fokkowed this policy.
Robert_k says
If we had this PC policy in WW II,then many of us would be speaking German and many of us would be lampshades.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… you rebuked Obama and Hillary Clinton for not daring to say “radical Islamic terrorism.” Now you have joined them. You were right the first time…”
But the ‘Islamic reference’ was too confronting for the ‘allies’ in particular Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and so it’s back to the slimy swamp to learn again how to speak like the frogs and become enamoured with the courage of the invertebrates.
AnneM says
Most likely when President Trump was in the Middle East, he must have in his speech in Saudi Arabia verbal-wise cleaned the Muslims listeners clocks out. Most likely he did not say “radical Islam” in his 9/11 Day speech be of the need to unite the on this dark anniversary day.
Richie says
Trump is a RINO- plus he was formerly a registered Democrat. Ckearly he played Republicans like a violin to get elected. The fact he won’t even name the enemy proves it
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
A question to my American neighbors:
Did you get what you voted for?
gravenimage says
Flavius, do you *really* believe that a Hillary presidency would have been better?
jewdog says
The Trump administration theme song:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+clip+%22if+i+only+had+a+brain%22+from+Oz&view=detail&mid=FC24BA1956855606FDCFFC24BA1956855606FDCF&FORM=VIRE
Wellington says
Not sure what is going on here. As Westman already pointed out in his 5:22 P.M. post, Trump may be saying what he is saying so he won’t be overruled by the rubes in the federal courts or stupidly opposed by knuckleheads in Congress (from both parties).
Then again, as gravenimage mentioned in her 8:40 P.M. post, Trump never really knew that much about Islam in the first place. His instincts were good about how nefarious Islam is (e.g., his saying back in March of 2016, ” I think Islam hates us” {eminently true I might add}) but to date he hasn’t backed up these sound instincts with near enough knowledge.
At least, by God, I certainly hope that Trump, per Jake in his 5:07 P.M. post, doesn’t at all entertain the ludicrous idea that 9/11 was an inside job. The day Trump would indicate this will be the day I stop supporting him completely because if you think 9/11 was an inside job you are a complete fool. Few acts of war (N.B., 9/11 was far more than a crime; it was an act of war by an ideology that declared war on humanity as far back as the seventh century) have more solid, indisputable evidence for the acts in question, and who committed them, than those acts that happened on 9/11. One knows this or should know it. I have no time for idiots who aver otherwise.
Finally, it is indeed disappointing in the extreme that Trump, et al., didn’t even indirectly indicate the ultimate cause, the final cause, the “but for” cause of 9/11, i.e., Islam. Even if Westman is correct, and he could be, there comes a point where enough is enough. I’m ‘athinkin’ the West had enough of Islam many centuries ago, let alone to date. Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile got this quite well. Time most everyone in the West gets it now. Sadly, not there yet. Not even close. Think the current fool who is Pope and the immensely harmful present Chancellor of Germany as examples of just what a silly age we live in.
PRCS says
Always enjoy reading your posts.
ktulu says
Hello Wellington. I read your posts, as I do all others here at JW, and I determine you to be a highly erudite and articulate individual.
Now I personally do not hold any formal qualifications in building design, structural integrity or the catastrophic failure of high-rise buildings (for whatever reason). Therefore I interrogate the words and literature of professionals in those fields in order to better comprehend the dynamics of those fields of study.
I have an enquiry regarding your post of September 11th 9:53 – to paraphrase: “I certainly hope that Trump doesn’t at all entertain the ludicrous idea that 9/11 was an inside job, if you do you are a complete fool”.
I am certain you are aware of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Would you be confident in stating that the 2300+ professionals who are signatories to this organisation are “complete fools”…?
Now I am not going into the myriad theories pertaining to the 9/11 atrocities, I am sure you are well enough aware of them. Suffice to say there are probable inconsistencies in the official verdict.
Might it not be more prudent to suggest that one’s current take on a particular situation remains fluid, and not stringently categorised into the *That is what happened. Period* box…?
gravenimage says
ktulu, Popular Mechanics debunked these canards back in 2005:
“Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report – The World Trade Center”
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
shoehorn says
‘McMaster… saying that use of the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism” is unhelpful in working with allies to fight terrorism.’
If so, then those “allies” are most unhelpful.
PRCS says
Well, yeah.
davej says
A remarkable turnaround from “Radical Muslim terrorists, I think Islam hates us” to “horrible horrible people”.
Something or someone has put the fix on Trump.
billybob says
Next Trump will be a hosting an Iftar dinner at the White House and telling us Muslims have been a part of America since its founding.
Mickey says
I wrote to the President asking him to go back to using the term “radical Islamic terrorism”. I’m not sure if he reads emails sent to the White House via their contact page. Maybe someone inside intercepts and edits emails before they get to him.
PRCS says
Not to be mean, Mickey,
But how does “radical” Islamic terrorism differ from regular Islamic terrorism?
And, rather than “Islamic” terrorism, how about Muslim terrorists instead?
And, as terrorism is a rather broad term, how about the more specific Muslim jihadists?
And, as jihad is specific to Islam, alone, how about just jihad? Or jihadists?
Sincerely,
rich says
Islam will not be named because it is the Antichrist religion. He is coming, folks.
AnneM says
It is being mentioned online and on social media.
Joeyn says
It seems like Trump is now under the control of Democrats such as Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
D Austin says
No control!
Trump told the do-nothing RINO Republicans if they won’t work with him, the do-nothing Democrats will. Now the Democrats are making nice with Trump.
The RINO Republicans repealed Obamacare to great fanfare, knowing Obama would veto it. Now the RINO Republicans, knowing Trump will back repeal, can’t seem to do anything.
Keith Jordan says
I think Trump needs to mention Islam by name, but I don’t think he deserves to be condemned over this issue.
gravenimage says
Not telling the truth about what threatens America is something that should definitely be criticized, to my mind.
Mark says
This documentary needs to be shared as fast and widely as possible. https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y
JOHN says
You cannot negotiate with or appease those who have declared themselves your sworn enemies or who have openly, and publicly espoused a commitment to destroy you, your culture, your society and your country. If Trump continues to engage in any cooperation with these anti-American Thugs, he is well on his way to becoming a one-term President. (And the New Nazi “Democrats” know this.) Within three years and change, the people who put their faith and trust in Trump to reverse and negate Obama’s illegal and illegitimate Nazi Dictatorship will resoundingly proclaim at the ballot box “You’re Fired”!
traci94 says
McMaster said, “But I think it’s important that, whatever we call it, we recognize that [extremists] are not religious people. And, in fact, these enemies of all civilizations, what they want to do is to cloak their criminal behavior under this false idea of some kind of religious war.”…
How does he know that these extremists are NOT religious? Has he ever picked up a Koran in his life? These people should be required to study Islam. I am just frustrated beyond belief that people who are in leadership over us can not be honest and can’t put 2 and 2 together. Either he is a total dip sh*t or is being paid off by someone.
Gordon Miller says
This comment by McMaster proves he is totally ignorant about the guiding principles of Islam and thus represents a danger to the United States because of this ignorance. Most definitely he should not occupy the position of national security advisor.
Mr. Trump, please admit you made a mistake in appointing him and ask for his resignation now.
Lorensacho says
I know that reciting the term Islamic terrorism is the loyalty oath imposed on those of us who acknowledge its danger to our security. But what about the millions of peaceful Muslims who are not and do not support terrorism? Are they to be tainted by this oath? Jews should know better as they cringe when a Jewish criminal is sentenced and his religion is included in the news release. Anyone who says that you can’t oppose Islamic terrorism without speaking the words doesn’t understand drones missiles and aircraft carriers that don’t need words to do their jobs.
gravenimage says
Lorensacho wrote:
I know that reciting the term Islamic terrorism is the loyalty oath imposed on those of us who acknowledge its danger to our security. But what about the millions of peaceful Muslims who are not and do not support terrorism? Are they to be tainted by this oath?
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This is violence done on the tenets of Islam and in its name. If there are some nominal Muslims who do not follow this, well and good. But the victims of Islam should not have to pretend that Jihad is un-Islamic.
More:
Jews should know better as they cringe when a Jewish criminal is sentenced and his religion is included in the news release.
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Does Judaism teach criminality? No, it does not, so this is a false analogy.
More:
Anyone who says that you can’t oppose Islamic terrorism without speaking the words doesn’t understand drones missiles and aircraft carriers that don’t need words to do their jobs.
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It is difficult to face any threat if you cannot even name what it is. If you believe that we are successfully opposing Jihad and keeping all our citizens safe now, I have a bridge to sell you…
We did not have to bite our tongues during WWII, lest we dare mention Fascism of the Nazis.
Carolyne says
Oh yes, it would have been so much better if Hillary Clinton were President. That was the other choice, folks. She has accepted millions from Saudi Arabia and her best bud is a Muslim whose father help found the Muslim Brotherhood. Her mother is editor of a pro-Sharia magazine of which she is a contributor. That pillow talk would have been disastrous. And she is still with Ms. Clinton.
I still support President Trump. He has been in office for nine months. He has accomplished a lot. So you don’t like his choice of words? Tough! I am not a fair-weather friend. I have not reneged on our President.
D Austin says
You left out Clinton is a traitor, pathological liar, a genuine witch attending an LA coven, and sells her office for bribes funneled to her slush fund Foundation.
Jake says
She’s not a witch. A BITCH, maybe, but not a witch, dude. Don’t start a witch hunt.
D Austin says
I would believe former Clinton friend and assassin Larry Nichols assertion that Hillary is a practicing witch before I believe you.
Gordon Miller says
Let’s not quibble. She’s a harridan [look it up].
gravenimage says
True, Carolyne–Trump is still considerably better than the alternative.
I don’t believe that he should not face any criticism, though.
scherado says
We can safely report that the honeymoon phase of this presidency is becoming a faint memory.
Welcome to the nightmare phase.
Rich says
THIS SITE REFUSED TO POST MY COMMENT
NICE JOB SPENCER
Rich says
just another CFR site of censorship
gravenimage says
Your comment posted just fine. Sometimes comments post slowly–this does not mean that you are not allowed to comment, as you clearly just did so.
Rich says
my original comment was censored!!!!
gravenimage says
Maybe. If you want to query, you can use the “Contact” box on the right hand side of the page.
But it is rare for someone to have a post removed unless it preaches violence or is laced with profanity. And there is no real mechanism to *prevent* a comment from posting except for a few types of links–so if your comment simply did not post then you should try posting it again.
Stop Kafirophobia says
“Digitally McMastered” – another brilliantly appropriate and darkly hilarious Spencerism™ ?
gravenimage says
🙂
Linnte says
You are indeed Brilliant Graven! I don’t comment much any more, but I read, and you’re the TOPS!
gravenimage says
Linnte, always good to see you posting! I hope you are well.
Linnte says
I AM well, and so much more educated about Islam and my new Faith, Christianity! Having fun proving to Muslims on YouTube how unsubstantiated and erroneous their ideology is. Hahahahaha! Giving people the Truth is a marvelous thing. God bless you Gravenimage!
gravenimage says
Glad to hear it, Linnte!
Gamaliel says
I think this was the turning point for Trump. https://www.nbcnews.com/slideshow/president-trump-s-royal-saudi-welcome-n762616
Linnte says
We have lost Trump to the Muslim Brotherhood.
petet says
I dont think that Trump had gone soft I think it was a Betty somber and solemn occasion not to be presidential .I am sure much thought and discussion has gone in to it..I am sure that there were some Muslims who were gong about their biusinrss as any other Americans that day and to condemn them just because of their religion at a poignant movement in our history would have been unforgivable.As they say there is a time and place for everything.
gravenimage says
So you believe that daring to name the cause of 9/11 is ‘unpresidential’? Why?
Rich says
this site removed a comment i posted from Ann Barnhardt
i also ask to be notified by this site if a comment is posted but i never get notified
Mrtea says
What the media corporations decide to promote is more important than what any politician, even the President, says. And they say, “be weak, pretend everything is OK and ignore the evidence before your eyes”. Look at how they cover immigration. (the “sanctuary” policy just killed another innocent bystander in San Francisco it’s linked on Drudge right now) But they will pretend it didn’t happen.
Reality will continue to intrude, but mass brainwashing works.