The BNP is or at least was an avowedly race-based party, and “alt-right,” when it has any substance at all and isn’t just an establishment media smear term, generally refers to racist and anti-Semitic views. These are not views I support; I’ve always maintained that opposition to jihad terror and Sharia oppression is not a racial issue, despite establishment media and Islamic supremacist claims that such opposition is “racist.”
But all that is really beside the point here. It is a manifest fact that the rape gangs were Muslim, and that British authorities feared to do anything about them for fear of being seen as “racist.” 1,400 British non-Muslim children were gang-raped and brutalized by Muslims in Rotherham, and “several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.”
The Muslims in Worcester, if they actually oppose the Muslim rape gangs, should acknowledge the fact that these gangs were operating on Islamic principles, and work to reform them, instead of denouncing these posters as “Islamophobic.” The Qur’an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take “captives of the right hand,” 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.” (33:59) The implication there is that if women do not cover themselves adequately with their outer garments, they may be abused, and that such abuse would be justified.
But for the Worcester Muslim Welfare Association to acknowledge that would mean rejecting Qur’anic dictates, and it is never going to do that.
“Muslims condemn ‘divisive’ Islamophobic posters plastered across Worcester by far-right British Renaissance Policy Institute,” by Matthew Dresch, Worcester News, September 2, 2017 (thanks to Winds of Jihad):
A FAR-right group has claimed responsibility for putting up “hate crime” posters in the city, linking Muslims with child grooming gangs.
Police are treating the posters as a hate crime and the Worcester Muslim Welfare Association has condemned the posters.
They say the ‘mischievous’ posters are aimed at dividing a peaceful community in Worcester.
The association says the posters have been plastered across the city centre over the last two weeks.
The posters say: Protect Children … Fight Grooming Gangs (which is written in Arabic typography).
The right-wing British Renaissance Policy Institute (BRPI) said its members were responsible for the poster campaign.
Jack Sen, the founder of the BRPI, said: “I am pleased my men have taken the initiative to do something on their own.
“The British Renaissance Worcester branch are the ones putting up the signs in Worcester. We have 25 members in Worcester.
“We had a meeting in Worcester two-and-a-half months ago and encouraged them to protest peacefully and legally.
“We gave them different ideas. We don’t want them to go into the streets…and behave like a terrorist organisation and cause trouble.
“We have to do it in an aggressive but legal manner. Those [posters] I’m assuming are the leftovers from the British National Party (BNP). [Nick] Griffin had nothing to do with it, he’s not involved in any way.”
Mr Sen, aged 40, who affiliates himself with the American ‘alt-right’, grew up in Malvern and previously stood as a UKIP parliamentary candidate in West Lancashire before he was suspended and joined the BNP.
He also lived in America for 16 years and said he was recently involved in the Charlottesville protests….
Mohammed Iqbal, general secretary of the Worcester Muslim Welfare Association, condemned the posters, which have appeared ahead of the Eid al-Adha celebrations.
He said: “The aim of these posters and using symbols associated with our religion is pure mischievousness and nothing more than to create division between our peace loving community of Worcester.
D Austin says
If they commit crimes, arrest, and prosecute. No need to even mention religion. Perp walk them in front of the media to show police are doing something. If Muslims are dumb enough to use religion as a defense, they condemn themselves.
gravenimage says
D Austin wrote:
If they commit crimes, arrest, and prosecute. No need to even mention religion.
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No need to even mention religion? But religion–Islam–is *why* Muslims are raping us.
D Austin, this would be like opposing each individual Nazi crime, but pretending that it is random, and has no connection to Fascism at all.
Why should we have to adhere to Shari’ah strictures and not say anything critical about Islam? We cannot properly fight Islamic crimes if we cannot be allowed to name the root of these crimes–and the root is Islam.
The “Prophet” himself raped victims in Jihad–this is exactly what these pious Muslims are doing to British girls. Why should we turn a blind eye to this?
D Austin says
Do the crime, do the time without regard to religion or politics, it’s the perp and act itself that a court looks at. Using your argument every single member of the Nazi Party should have been tried at Nuremberg. In fact, Chicago as the murder capital of the US, all blacks living there should be shipped back to Africa, using your logic.
libertyORdeath says
I agree in a judicial sense, but to alert the public to a safety threat, especially to children should be done in a way that alerts them to the motivation for the crime if it is something known. If religion is the motivation, just as race, reporting on these factors is in everyone’s best interest. The only reason to withhold it is to continue the propaganda campaign and keep the criminal Muslims coming by the thousands.
dwight hogg says
no – blacks aren’t using their colour as a religious excuse to commit crimes.
Joe says
Killing Jews because they are Jews is wrong. Raping girls because they are not Muslim is wrong. The second sentence is a hate crime in England.
Regardless of the law, anyone who supports rape is a rapist. It is that easy.
gravenimage says
That is not my logic at all, D Austin.
We did not fight the Fascists by trying each Nazi crime. We fought Fascism and we won–which would not have happened otherwise.
Jack Diamond says
They were protected from prosecution because of their religion, Muslims have become a protected “class” and this is clear in this whole sorry saga, the fear of charges of “racism” and Islamophobia outweighing the safety of British girls. So, Islam already greatly figured into this.
Second, it is still going on. Ignoring the Islamic justifications for this treatment of kaffir women ignores one more very good reason for stopping Muslim migration into Britain and Europe and not permitting Islamization to advance. Why has Sweden becomes one of the rape capitals of the world? What has happened in Germany since more than a million Muslims have been introduced?
In any case, no court in Britain is putting the rapists on trial because of Islam or for reasons of Islam, or would. They are tried as criminals (even if their own justifications come from Islam for their crimes). That’s not a reason others can’t point out the elephant in the (court) room, Islam.
Lou says
It may be true that no court in Britain is putting the rapists on trial because of ”Islam”…but see what a German judge had to say about acceptable ”cultural” differences:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/04/21/german-judge-acquits-turkish-man-of-rape-after-4-hours-of-forced-violent-sex/
Unbelievable but true !
gravenimage says
There have been cases excusing Muslim rape over much of the West. Deeply disturbing.
John Forbes says
British Cowardice in full view yet again !! Refusal to help their own children puts then is a COWARDS CLASS along with the rest of the COWARDS of EUROPE !!
This has been on for 25 years or more & not a single official or Policeman has been charged .
So much for the famously & often quoted RULE OF LAW ! If you are w WHITE CHILD in much of EUROPE – this does not apply apparently !
What a BLOODY DISGRACE !!
Andy says
When There Is Lack Of Police And A Group Of People Who Only Want To Help
“Vigilante justice” is often rationalized by the concept that proper legal forms of criminal punishment are either nonexistent, insufficient, or inefficient. Vigilantes normally see the government as ineffective in enforcing the law; such individuals often claim to justify their actions as a fulfillment of the wishes of the community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yewBN-ZFpl0
Vigilante Britain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q81sHmWWQg
D Austin says
How do you say, “when seconds count, the police are minutes away” in stiff Brit?
Andy says
A bit off subject but here is a bunch of the good ole boys with a message for you’all!!
LOOTERS BE WARNED! YOU LOOT WE SHOOT!!!
Looks like some people will come out of the flood with only water damage!
http://www.iamatexan.com/2017/08/29/looters-be-warned-you-loot-we-shoot/
When Seconds Count The Police Are Only Two Minutes Away
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/03/robert-farago/when-seconds-count-the-police-are-only-two-minutes-away/
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pdxnag says
Religiously sanctioned and encouraged rape Jihad is terrorism, even if it is only to reward warriors. It is now also recognized as an act of genocide.
https://clg.portalxm.com/library/keytext.cfm?keytext_id=201
So, if it is a crime to oppose genocide by IslamoFascists then one must look to those who make it a crime and brand them as genocidal monsters — who should then be brought to trial for war crimes.
Ned Kelly says
I was banned on FB for mentioning “muslim rape gangs”
D Austin says
I don’t you Fake Book/Mug Book. It’s a cyber ghetto.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslims condemn as “Islamophobic” posters warning about Muslim rape gangs
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There is nothing so Islamic as Muslims raping Infidel children–so of course it is is “Islamophobic” to object to these pious acts…
harbidoll says
they “groom” their own children to blow themselves up! Islam grooms followers to be pimps!
gravenimage says
Grimly true. There is no love in Islam.
Irish Sheep says
Truth hurts!
libertyORdeath says
If there are in fact Muslims and Islamic groups who are legitimately opposed to these rape gangs then they should at the very least have no problem in identifying the perpetrators as muslims, if not pointing also to the Islamic principles that motivate these acts.
The real issue is exactly what the sign says, to protect children from monstrous crimes committed by anyone. Why would any so called religious person be against something as basic as The protection of children from rape and abuse? In fact the sign doesnt mention islam directly therefore presenting the question of how it can be islamophobic? Unless grooming gangs are islamic or representative of Islamic culture which would then precisely explain their outrage.
The unwillingness to confront the nature of the Islamic doctrine that feeds this growing epidemic (amongst MANY others) is no less than proof that even so called moderates are only moderate compared to those willing to actually commit atrocities as opposed to just condoning,ignoring, or supporting them. They are not on the sidelines of the battle for Islamic domination but rather the propaganda wing of the movement. The real moderates are those that are completely rejecting a great deal of traditional Islamic doctrine and are willing to completely reform Islam as a religious and political institution. These however are a small minority of progressive and mostly non religious Muslims as compared to the billion or so on the other side.
gravenimage says
libertyORdeath wrote:
If there are in fact Muslims and Islamic groups who are legitimately opposed to these rape gangs…
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I’ve never heard of any–just about Muslims who are enraged when it is mentioned that these rape gangs are Muslim.
libertyORdeath says
I’m almost certain that there are not only some, but a large % of Muslims who are appalled by these crimes. Child rape is something reviled by a large % of human beings regardless of religion or other factors simply due to the basic human feeling that sexual abuse of children us wrong. This however is frighteningly antithetical in the number of Muslims who have a religious excuse for abusing children but not unlike many other cults albeit at a ludicrously smaller scale.
I believe that the reform of issues like these must be reformed from within islam by those who recognize the need for an almost complete overhaul of the religion. Again, the numbers of Muslims in favor of such radical changes are few and far between which means that other methods must begin and continue to be employed to weaken and ultimately destroy Islamic supremicism once and for all.
The key to this is of course to eradicate Islamic supremicism, beginning with terrorists and jihadis, with absolute ruthlessness and efficiency. This has been hindered and sometimes altogether stopped by political pressure on military operations which is at odds with how the military-govt. relationship is supposed to be handled as per the constitution. We may never be able to reverse the culture that rejects fighting those who choose to fight us with our full military power but the tide may be turning in the short term at least. In the long term though, the outlook is grim from my perspective…i truly fear that Americans will fail to wake up until it is far too late.
libertyORdeath says
Edit: I truly fear that THE WEST will fail to wake up until it is far too late.
Jack Diamond says
Muslims horrified by such things and seeing that they are justified by AllahMuhammad, leave Islam. Those who are aware and remain Muslim, are not to be trusted.
Child marriages in Islam are not on a small scale. Muhammad married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9. One of Khomeini’s first acts heading the Islamic Republic of Iran was lowering the marriage age to…9. Muhammad is the model of conduct for all Muslims. Muhammad permitted sex with captive women. He also allowed slavery and sex with slaves. Of course, this is rape. Muhammad is the model of conduct for all Muslims. There is a whole chapter of the Qur’an (the unalterable immutable literal word of allah) called Spoils of War. Kaffir/infidel women and girls, in the absence of a temporary treaty or dhimmi protection pact–and not always even then—are for taking, they are permitted to Muslims (“your blood and your treasure””your lives and your property”), and especially in the state of “war” Muslims think they are in now, war against Islam, in war anything goes that instills terror in their hearts. Anything.
Non-Musims are not even real human beings, according to Islam. Viler than animals. No Muslim is to be killed for the murder of a non-Muslim, according to Islamic law. In Islamic manuals of law like the Hidayeh there is no punishment for crimes like fornication and adultery committed by a Muslim in a foreign (kaffir) country. In war, Muslims can do whatever they want with non-Muslim women (and they regard their hijrah in Europe as part of a war of conquest, just as they regard Britain and Europe as at war with Islam).
The key to eradicating Islamic supremacism is to bring them down low, to humble them so they feel humbled, inshallah. To keep their hijrah colonization out of our lands, to isolate them, make them weak and divided, not let them acquire weapons of mass destruction, and roll the clock back on everything that has happened since 1973 to empower them or make them think it is allah’s favored time of jihad. Forget reforming Islam. It gets reformed when it is dominated, or so weak the snake crawls back in its hole (in dar al-Islam, not here).
gravenimage says
libertyORdeath wrote:
I’m almost certain that there are not only some, but a large % of Muslims who are appalled by these crimes. Child rape is something reviled by a large % of human beings regardless of religion or other factors simply due to the basic human feeling that sexual abuse of children us wrong.
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I’m afraid that considering this wrong goes against Islam. The “Prophet” himself “married” a little six year old, and raped her when she was nine.
He also raped Infidels in Jihad.
This is likely why Muslims are so quiet about these crimes.
More:
This however is frighteningly antithetical in the number of Muslims who have a religious excuse for abusing children but not unlike many other cults albeit at a ludicrously smaller scale.
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Actually, child rape–including child “marriage”, is rife in the Muslim world. There are countries where the *majority* of girls are married when children.
More:
I believe that the reform of issues like these must be reformed from within islam by those who recognize the need for an almost complete overhaul of the religion.
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Good luck, since this would mean rejecting almost all the acts of Muhammed–who as a pedophile, a slaver, a rapist, a warlord, and a mass murderer.
More:
Again, the numbers of Muslims in favor of such radical changes are few and far between which means that other methods must begin and continue to be employed to weaken and ultimately destroy Islamic supremicism once and for all.
The key to this is of course to eradicate Islamic supremicism, beginning with terrorists and jihadis, with absolute ruthlessness and efficiency. This has been hindered and sometimes altogether stopped by political pressure on military operations which is at odds with how the military-govt. relationship is supposed to be handled as per the constitution. We may never be able to reverse the culture that rejects fighting those who choose to fight us with our full military power but the tide may be turning in the short term at least. In the long term though, the outlook is grim from my perspective…i truly fear that Americans will fail to wake up until it is far too late.
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I hope we *do* wake up in time–that is what sites like Jihad Watch are for.
James says
They are “moderate” in the sense in which Ted Bundy was “moderate” in comparison with Hitler.
The use of such comparative terms as “moderate” & “extremist” veils the fact that even what is “moderate” can be evil and criminal. A “moderate” murderer who contents himself with “only” 1 victim, rather than imitating Bundy & murdering 36, is not as murderous as Bundy – but in no way does his “moderation” mean he is a good person, or not a criminal. One can easily be “moderate”, and also be guilty of many crimes.
Mark Swan says
Just because someone does not display openly what they
have to base their beliefs on…does not mean they will not, at the
very least be empathetic with others who act on it.
These moderate Muslims seem to exist, so We observe this,
do We feel anyone who can read and has read the Quran
and is ok with it, can be something other than Muslim.
Do We expect anyone who is not a Muslim, but has read the
Quran, to understand, how someone who knows what is in the
Quran, can keep Saying they are Muslim.
In this age of Islam spreading aggressively, are we going to hope
moderate Muslims, can water down the very essence of Islam which
is about control plane and simple…are we to think the big players
in this are naive and vulnerable, or maybe ok with this—what.
They have been building-up to this time for many decades…they can
work any system better than its originators, they are very effective.
This is a supremacist Ideology…do We expect them to accept equality.
All their ingenuous determined efforts are very real and very wide-spread.
Do We feel these Muslim folks just need a clear view of
the good life, and when they realize how wonderful a good life
Is, these beliefs, based on the Quran will just go away.
The rest of this world cannot be on hold…how long do We have to give Them to make this reformation, after many centuries of the exact same belief.
Should the words good and Muslim be used together…read the Quran.
Do these exist…if so, let them cast off this hate group membership.
Let them join the free World and help…that is what they could do.
Many beliefs are part of humanity…yet humanity can not accept the Quran.
Whom then do we liken the Muslim Brotherhood to be.
Many have considered them Moderate Muslims.
They are not.
Recall, from the Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum:
“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
CONTROL
Guest says
God help those children, because no one else will
libertyORdeath says
No offense or anything but that’s a poor attitude. Myself and billions of others can and should help. I understand your point that no one IS helping, but we definitely can and need to!
Mark Swan says
The peace loving community of Worcester, knows it has Muslims,
and it means organized criminal activity—these gangs are heartless
groups of Muslims—they feel obliged to do these thing—no one is
trying to stop them, they are Muslims.
Muslims enjoy a special people status right now that no other people
can enjoy to such an extent, for far to long.
gravenimage says
Britons and others in the West need to stand up–exposing these crimes–as here–is a big part of that.
Bev says
Ideology is not racial. How hard is this concept?
gravenimage says
+1
libertyORdeath says
Aren’t u all getting as tired as I am of having to clarify something so basic to so called academics???
It’s the made up on the fly neo-language of liberals…
“Islamophobia”
“Hate Speech ”
Islam = Race
Antifa or Anti-Facist = Socialist/Communist/Anarchist
Observant = Racist/Bigoted/etc.
Concern = Racism/Islamophobia/etc.
And my favorite Islam = Peace (of course we all know it means Submission and is viciously anti-peace)
mortimer says
Liberty please add to your list: Why do Feminists endorse a religion that calls itself ‘SUBMISSION’?
Michael Warden says
The British National Party may well have been racist when it was first formed many years ago. It was, of course, specifically formed for British people. There were, as in any British political party (especially the Tories), anti Semitic members. I suppose (like the other parties) they are still there but certainly officially the BNP is NOT racist and NOT anti Semitic. Officially, it supports Israel and the move for Jerusalem be designated the capital.
It should be remembered that it was former Chairman of the BNP Nick Griffin (after being alerted by a former Labour Councillor in Rotherham, Marlene Guest), who outed the muslim grooming and raping gangs and was rewarded by a grateful society by being arrested for Race Hate.
The BNP is routinely portrayed as “Racist” by the media and politicians of other parties have a “no platform” policy of never allowing BNP politicians to occupy a platform with them.
Read the BNP site. Read the Mission Statement and policies.
Stan Lee says
Since Muslims are so insulted by the words “Muslim Rape Gangs,” calling them “Islamaphobic” their complaint will gain no traction however much they complain. It is a fact that “Muslim Rape Gangs” are organized for the very reason of rape of children, although those same rape gangs would rape any vulnerable female, child or not. Rape is what they do as a Muslim religious value to Non-Muslims.. Virtue with them is not the commendable attitude of Non-Muslims whose morality is negative to the act of rape. Muslim demonstration of power and superiority in order to victimize is probably viewed as “character development” to them.
If Islam is thus insulted by the title of “Muslim Rape Gangs,” then Islam itself should restrain the rape “virus” among Muslims that drives them to pack like rabid dogs, and which assures each of these rabid dogs that by being part of such criminality, they believe themselves powerful as a mob, plus each one of them feels he is contributing to an important function as directed by his religion.
The term “Islamaphobic” is a defense connected with “political correctness,” which has been a curse on non-Muslims. The sooner “political correctness” is abandoned by stupid EU governments which foist PC upon their people, and these same governments revive laws that sternly punish for acts by gangs intent upon victimizing, the sooner Islam will not be treated as the dilemma it has been in countries such as UK. The EU has made the problem via its implementation of “Political Correctness.”
When will the UK become its own nation again?
Michael Copeland says
When the “vilest of beasts” – unclean kaffir girls – are raped by “the best of peoples raised up for mankind” it is “their penalty for disbelief”. So said Maulana Bulandshahri.
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/and-take-their-wives-war-booty
James says
Muzz men presumably have “the best of” penises, so why do they defile their wonderful Allah-made penises by sticking them into “unclean” kaffir girls ? Or does being penetrated by Muslim penises mean that kaffir gjrls become Muslim “territory”, belonging to Allah ? That wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
I’ve heard of “salvation through sex” – does Islam believe in redemption through rape ? I think we need to be told.
D Austin says
Women are property (livestock) to Muslims, just like they use goats, camels, horses, etc, for what ever reason…
Richard says
The redemption comes when the Kuffar women give birth to Muslim children, who will naturally be so by birth because the father is Muslim. Extra redemption happens if the children are male. After the children are born the Kuffar women have served their purpose for Islam and become superfluous unless they convert; if not, their rapist “husbands” are commanded to hate them for being Kuffar.
Laura says
A woman I met at the gym many years ago had a fascination for muslim men. She was besotted by one particularly nasty Iraqi who would only penetrate her anally, never vaginally. In spite of the abuse she clung to the panglossian belief that he actually loved her.
When he had taken everything she owned, he moved on. She quickly replaced him with a Kurd, who was equally as abusive as his predecessor.
Some women never learn.
Nigel GFF says
A peaceful community in Worcester, of course there is. “Stay Quiet and You’ll Be Okay”.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/robert-spencers-books
Jack Holan says
Ah, it come down to the Arabic Style of Lettering, no it’s too close to a Holiday, no it’s singling only Muslim Men out; has anyone ever heard such a crock? We never seem to hear about Muslims being cited for Hate Speech when during massive rallies attended by thousands recorded on Video-cam by Media a Call goes out to Kill the Jews or crush the Christians. Do we see an arrest or hear about a Police interview or a simple letter of caution. NO!
What cannot be called Racist for The BNP and by the way for record I agree with Robert, but they could create signs in plain easy to read lettering that many Muslim neighbors haven’t given up abhorrent practices found in the Quran. Specifically (then list the citations Robert has recorded). They won’t take it to Court because then they’d have to prove these tenants aren’t in the Quran and being adhered to by British Subjects. Invite those Muslims who don’t follow this to pressure or turn in those who do
D Austin says
British politicians don’t feel threatened enough by removal from office by voters or other means…
Anne Smith says
That is very true.
Politicians do not care about protecting children, or the descent of our once great country into a morass of decay, or even our economic state. They care about one thing only — VOTES.
As long as they continue to get the votes they need to stay in power, or opposition, they willnot learn or change anything.
James says
Here is a a sign put up in Indiana: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/06/05/indianapolis-muslims-call-out-creators-local-billboard-insults-prophet-muhammad/370969001/
Mo’s critics in Britain should make something similar, complete with references to the Koran and hadiths & Sira. Muslims can hardly complain that their own sources show him in a bad light. Since when was telling the truth a crime ?
Jaladhi says
For these liars the truth about Islam and Muslim is Islamophobic!! What a bunch of liars, hypocrites and and truth hating criminals these people are!!
James says
The paedo piss-drinkers for Mo are the problem. They are the enemies of young girls – including kaffir girls. We in Briton do not our chilldren and womenfolk raped or sodomised or fellated by these rapists on steroids, who care for nothing except having permanently erect penises in the afterlife to stick up “boys scattered like pearls’ and up “virgins with swelling breasts”.
Here is how bad things are in the UK:
“So why did it take a full week for her to step down? Simply put, Champion found herself a scapegoat for an article written by another. Her article was used as a reference point in a subsequent in on the same paper by Trevor Kavanagh in which he spoke of “the Muslim Problem”. His article was not specific to sexual grooming alone, but also referred to managing post-Brexit immigration and an inference of limitations based on religion. ***He drew widespread condemnation, including a letter signed by more than 100 MPs and a joint response by the Board of Deputies of British Jews and Faith Matters.*** Kavanagh subsequently issued a response which contained clarification.”
IOW, these gutless cretins ignored the facts, and he had to “clarify”, i.e. unsay, what he had written. The scourge of PCness makes cowards of all who surrender to it.
Full article here: https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/08/zehra-zaidi-as-a-muslim-woman-activist-i-will-keep-speaking-out-about-some-pakistani-men-and-child-sexual-exploitation.html
“On Wednesday, Sarah Champion resigned as Shadow Women and Equalities Minister over an article she wrote the week before in The Sun, following the conviction of a grooming gang in Newcastle.
The incendiary sentence in the piece was the following: “Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls”.
IOW, for having the gall to say what is in fact perfectly true, a Labour MP – is rewarded ? In the loony bin that is modern Britain, saying what is true is punished.
James says
The ***for emphasis*** are mine – they are not in the quoted article. As Zaidi, a Conservative, points out in her article:
“When female Muslim activists such as myself, Amina Lone, Henna Rai and Aisha Ali-Khan have raised these issues in the media or online, a procession of self-appointed male Muslim “leaders” have attempted to shut down debate. Champion has been the focus of much of their online wrath, for what they see as racism and a blanket approach vis-à-vis all Pakistanis. However, what the ensuing debate seems to have lost is an equal amount of anger directed at the perpetrators of these heinous crimes. The voices of vulnerable victims seem to have become secondary. Is it any surprise that there is a culture of silence, and that some victims are too afraid to step forward?”
All good points.
Jack Holan says
It sounds as though on the intellectual side you’ll have steep mountains to traverse. Those whom have nearly the entire Alphabet either before after or both attached to their names and are actually Pseudo intellectuals and not the Intellectuals of yesteryear. These ones start with a PC Conclusion and revise History, politics or even science until it agrees with their conclusion. The rest of us with less letters BUT Common Sense and a center Moral Compass NEED to maintain a steady course and have the COURAGE not to go with the but remain true to what We know is right and ethical!
mortimer says
James said Muslims are the enemies. NO… the IDEOLOGY of rape, enslavement and hatred directed towards kafirs is the enemy.
The IDEOLOGY of Islam is the enemy. Most Muslims do not behave like Mohammed because his behavior is too immoral for them.
Most Muslims do not think Mohammed is a wholesome role model.
Jack Holan says
I know that a pronouncement like yours with such strong passion sounds half believable to the uninformed Non-Believer. It may interest you to know Sir, I don’t hate Muslims but I do hate the Stream of Islamists who believe that unless the Non-Believer converts to Islam the should die or pay Jizya. As far Non-Believer women and their meaning to Muslim Men, I want you to read to an all Non-Believer Audience in English all the Quranic Passages cited by Robert. He didn’t make them up take them out of context add or delete words or use imperfect translations. You can certainly interpretations of those passages from ALZAHAR U to the audience.
John A. Marre says
The Muslim rape gangs have been known for several years. The UK government has chosen to protect them, and to sacrifice the UK children to the Muslim rapists. By doing so, the UK government has revealed to the world that it despises British children, and chooses to promote the Muslim takeover of the UK.
If Swedish tourists went to the UK to put strips of bacon and Lutefisk on mosque doors, the UK government would have forbidden all Swedes from entering the UK, and would have arrested the ringleader.
The action of the UK government is taken with full awareness of the meaning and of the consequences. The UK government bears full responsibility for the abuse of children, and the forthcoming subjugation of the British subjects.
TL says
“Police are treating the posters as a hate crime…”
Of course they are. The police support grooming gangs. It works the same way in the USA, too, where cops are fond of opposing—with their mouths—the formation of Muslim rape gangs in the USA. Yet how do American police behave when it’s time to make sure that no globalist goes to bed afraid?
Correct! The cops make sure that their paychecks and pensions will not be put in great jeopardy by failing to protect globalists, esp. the Kleptocrats and Greedy Old Progressives, from their subjects.
mortimer says
Muslims cannot condemn either RAPE or PEDOPHILIA without condemning the behavior of Mohammed who clearly raped enslaved women and committed pedophilia.
Since Muslims cannot condemn RAPE AND PEDOPHILIA, we must condemn their lack of morality and lack of COMPASSION to the victims of ISLAMIC RAPE GANGS.
Jack Holan says
Excellent point regarding Mohamed’s Life, values, and role model from his own mouth and Aisha. All that said, when the Far Leftists along with their Islamist Allies, and will claim leaders and explorers of the past need to be erased from the annals of history their statues removed and graves uprooted just Remember the Life and Times of Mohamed through the Prism of today’s values without a filter of historical change then We will need to grind clear the Edifice of Mohamed from the outside Wall of the Supreme Court. Isn’t a wonder that it’s forbidden to make any image of Mohamed under the penalty of death that earnestly enforced by Muslims but there is no outcry about the image of Mohamed on the Wall of the Supreme Court hypocrites! When it’s advantageous evidently exceptions are made.
Lou says
U.K. ? If Muslims continue to have it their way, very soon the judges sending Muslims to jail for a proven crime will be jailed themselves for the greatest crime on earth: Islamophobia…
davej says
Muslims in general protest way too much. Their silence on rape gangs and terror attacks tells you everything you need to know about the “Religion of Peace”
For the hundredth time it is not “phobic” to protest against and fear rape gangs, knife attacks and vehicles running over our native citizens.
The sneaky and dishonest way that Muslims represent themselves gives us every reason to hate them. Really hate them – no “phobia” required.
Baucent says
So what is the objection about? Surely everyone agrees with the message, “protect children, fight grooming gangs”.
The objection is of course about the subliminal message in the style of script. But really Worcester Muslim Association would be better to focus on ensuring there are no grooming gangs hiding in their community.
mortimer says
Baucent asked: “What is the objection?”
To me, this is obvious. Muslims do not consider it immoral to 1) rape KAFIR women 2) rape children.
If they object to 1) and 2) they must object to Mohammed and then it’s all over, isn’t it?
Wellington says
How, Baucent, can the Worcester Muslim Association be against grooming gangs in their community when their revered prophet, one Mohammed, himself led a grooming gang back in the seventh century for reasons of profit, murder and rape under the guise of being a religious figure? Talk about the ultimate con job.
This is just another way of pointing out what mortimer already has in his 8:41 P.M. post to you.
Islam is rotten to the core and was founded by a brutal psychopath. Proceed from any other assumption about Islam and, to the extent that you do, your assessment of Islam will be deficient. Guaranteed.
Time is way overdue to describe Islam, ALL OF IT, as one of the worst, if not the worst, mistakes in the history of mankind. No more pretend games. Sick of ’em.
R Cole says
Never heard of the group British Renaissance Policy Institute.
Can’t even find them online.
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But then here we go again, with truth versus what’s deemed racist.
If you are engaging in the rape of young girls, and you are a Muslim, then you brought that problem on yourself. And you should own it.
They should be shamed!! This is not Pakistan, where the law turns a blind eye to the rape and abduction of Christian and Hindu girls. The UK is not supposed to appear in human rights reports along side, the rights violations that go on with impunity, in a third world Islamic nation.
Some have suggested that it could be as many as 50,000 – 100,000 girls affected by Muslim grooming gangs.
If EU nations want to place respect for Islam above human rights, then they need to be written up as human rights abusers.
What should happen is that every case should be documented. Starting with an interview with the girls, many now women, statements from the social workers, as well as the police should be documented.
They can continue with the anti-racism line, but being investigated and even charged with gross human rights violations might carry a little more weight. They can claim they were just following orders when they refused to act in their capacity to ensure the protection of these children. But remember that did not work out too well for the Nazis. Can you imagine Nazi officials claiming the world’s Naziphobic?
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Leftwing groups can hold signs up that say stop the BNP, and that’s not divisive. But hold a sign up that says stop the Muslim gang rapists and that’s divisive. In a free society, what’s good for the goose!
Think the whole of western society is being realigned to take care of Muslim perpetrators and would be ones.
Irene Brekelmans says
To repeat Gravenimage words, it is all “DEEPLY DISTURBING” Those are the right words for it.I find the leftists of Europe and the western countries deeply disturbed too. Is it because of Chem trails, something in the water or food, that is working already. It is something very sinister and people are disturbed.
I can not belief that people don’t stick up for their children and grandchildren, that has always been the first thing parents do: They protect their children ! That is why I think something “funny” is going on, something more then we know, this is not normal and very disturbing for the future generation, Crazy !!!
gravenimage says
Irene, I think this has a lot more to do with “political correctness” and willful denial than with “chem trails”.
People have been in denial over threats before–just look at the West before WWII–many were in denial over the threat of Hitler, condemned those like Winston Churchill who warned about the Nazis, and even considered Fascism “modern”. This is nothing new.
I just hope we can wake up in time–just barely–as we did before.
reyol says
Suppose the Irish came over to Britain and kidnapped and raped 1400 English girls. I’m sure the British would have absolutey no problem deporting the Irish and then re-invading the Emerald Isle – doing whatever it took! With the Mohammedans, the British have an enemy they must pretend are their friends and about whom nothing bad can be said. They must avert their eyes when the Mohammedans abduct their girls and behead their soldiers in broad daylight.
davej says
True, no condemnation or prosecution is the same as complete acceptance.
Jayell says
Freudian slip or bad English? Mohammed Iqbal says that these posters are producing “division between our peaceful community of Worcester”. Doesn’t make sense! If you’ve got ONE ‘community’ (singular) you can’t have anything ‘between’ it – but you could make division ‘in’ it. Or does this little bit of semantic nonsense reveal what’s actually in Iqbal’s devious little mind? His presentation of the idea of a unified, peaceful community in Worcester which includes his Muslims is just fanciful, cynical bullsh*t. By using the wrong preposition he reveals that he actually sees at least TWO communities in Worcester – his Muslims and the rest. Either that, or he doesn’t understand the concept of ‘between’. If so, what else doesn’t he understand? And the fact that he is up on his hind legs so quickly after seeing the words ‘grooming gangs’ in spoof Arabic script means that he knows jolly well that the game’s up. We all know that you can easily detect a liar when they protest too much.
Anne Smith says
To paraphrase a famous comment made in the Christine Keeler court case:
“Well they would, wouldn’t they.”
Islamic mirror says
4. ALL politicians who craft “islamophobia laws” and ALL cops who arrest people for “hate- crimes” and ALL lawyers and judges who prosecute people for them, should themselves be fired and JAILED for putting “destruction of innocent children life for ever and hurt feeling ” before FACTS Especially in the case of islam!
Everyone who defends islam and muslims endorses crime.
Endorsing crime IS a crime, so those doing it are criminals.
Right in the Qur’an is: the command to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).
Are death-threats legal? NO.
Is extortion legal? NO.
Is slavery legal? NO.
Is murder legal? NO.
Is rape legal? NO.
THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!
Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!
Everything muslims pretend to see as “holy” is already a crime!
So nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Interesting how the Muhammadans are taking over poor neighbourhoods, and the children of the poor are supposed to be rape-fodder for Muhammadans, and if the parents/care-givers of the raped children protest the rape of their children they’re accused of “intolerance”, “hate”, ‘Racism”, and “-phobia”. The wealthy people putting Muhammadans into poor neighbourhoods, and condoning the rape of the children of poor people, don’t live in those poor neighbourhoods. Must be nice to be rich.
Harry says
The poster doesn’t mention muslims.
Yet somehow, everyone knows who is being referred to!
How very odd.
Lodesman says
Will some one tell me what is Islamophobic about this poster? It simply states that we must protect children from grooming gangs. Yes indeed we must by all means.
UNCLE VLADDI says
To the media, are there ever any “right” wing (for individual rights) groups, which are not “FAR”-Right?!
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UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “Police (who didn’t treat the muslims’ hateful child-rapes of infidels as crimes at all ) are treating the posters (which actually dared to notice and point out what the craven and complicit cops refused to do) as a hate crime.”
Because cops love crimes and the criminals whose existence enables their fat paychecks, perks, power and pensions, and hate those who hate crimes and the criminals who commit them.
Politicianaphobia says
If 100 children are raped by men who do not know it is wrong and 100 sleepwalking Fathers or Mothers murdered the 100 rapists, would they be guilty. Do you know what you are doing while sleepwalking? Perhaps a legal opinion is out there. Possibly they could say the devil made them do it or tit for tat. Men who rape children should be put against a wall and shot.
ROBERT BROWN says
Twenty years or more ago, the BNP flagged up that this crime was rife…they were lambasted in the Press…now the press, councils and Police and social services have been shown to be complicit in this horrendous crime…this is the real hate crime. Nick Griffin deserves an apology and compensation..he was right all along…he is wrong about the Jews, but right about Muslims….And still this crime continues, and still the Police and social services do nothing…sure, a few arrests, but not the purge that is needed…especially of the guilty, complicit authorities…they have covered up…they are a disgrace to Britain, they should be in jail with the muslim rapists..