The Western media continues to tell only one side of the story regarding the Rohingyas. Authorities in Bangladesh and India know another side. This is also another interesting sidelight to Europe’s refugee crisis.
“Exclusive: 22 Rohingyas posing as refugees arrested in Bangladesh for alleged role in massacre of Rohingya Hindus,” Times Now, October 7, 2017 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
Amid a raging debate over the deportation of Rohingyas from India, Times Now’s exclusive investigation has revealed why Centre has taken the stand it has.
22 Rohingya Muslims, who were posing as refugees, have been arrested in Bangladesh, Times Now has learnt. The 22 people are allegedly linked to the massacre of Rohingya Hindus in Myanmar.
The same forces are believed to have attacked Bangladeshi forces earlier and Pakistan’s deep state is believed to have trained this group of 22 Rohingyas….
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Who were posing as refugees. I’m a refugee,, fleeling myself. There’ is om much to flee, Islam is never adjudicated something to flee from. Running from whom? .
Yoda Dunbar says
This cannot be, they are the victims right? these are the same Ones NATO, Obumma UN and all our media are crying about, SBS has programs running and ads throughout crying for financial aid for them, wonder if it is the Obumma or Clinton foundation disguised as Red Cross or maybe Linda Sarsour raising money for the MB again
P.V. Ravi Chandran says
A Rohingya, under present circumstances is a refugee per se! There is no need to “pose” to be one! Of course, you can verily contest that they were Rohingyas and that they are not at all Rohingyas but Arabs or Persians posing to be Rohingyas and infiltrating the Rohingya populace, but when it is certain that they are Rohingyas, there is ipso facto no need whatsoever to “pose” to be refugees! Please, there needs to be a limit to your deceit and treachery! Just who is claiming that the Muslim Rohingyas are murdering their brethren Hindu Rohingyas? It is the Burman fascist Regime which wants to annex historical Rohingya land but nevertheless does not want to give equal citizenship rights to the indigenous Rohingyas! Do you mean to say that when the Muslim Rohingyas are facing an existential crisis and are on the brink of extermination to posterity and are fighting for survival and are finding it difficult to fight with a militarily vastly superior Burman Army and want to flee for their lives to safe havens as displaced refugees, they can find enough time and want to create one more enemy, this time within their Rohingya community itself? Give me a break!
Bev says
Well Mr.Islamist sympathizer, perhaps if the Rohingya had not first invaded, then when their numbers were great enough, pulled off the textbook (Koran) method for making a region Islamist by outbreeding the natives, and then attacking the natives, we would not be seeing this mess. Islam is totalitarian system that controls your life 24/7/365 and has you on your knees 5 times a day praying to kill the infidel. Islam is a cancer that needs to surgically removed from the planet. You sound like a person who feels sorry for the Islamists. Boo hoo.
nicu says
So correct Bev — this is what we have in Europe , now !
surgically remove ? what about collateral damage ?
Frank Anderson says
nicu, collateral damage? what about the damage if nothing is done?
Ramandeep Kaur says
“Ravi Chandran” or Rafiq Khan?
Please, enough of the taqqiya. It might work on reddit but it won’t work here
Thought_Weaver says
My! My! Look at you. Ravi Chandran is it? Ok, tell me Mr. Chandran, what do you think about the Kashmiri Pandits who were hunted, raped and thrown out of their own homes just for their crime of being Hindus? And who are still after decades refugees in their own country. Doesn’t your heart ever bleed for them Mr. Chandran? You are so worried about foreign Rohingya Muslims whose links with terror have been proven beyond doubt but you never ever raise an eyebrow when it comes to the systematic ethnic cleansing of the Pandits from Kashmir.
You talk about oppression of Rohingyas eh? In spite of being oppressed so horrendously by the Muslims and inspite of being so blatantly and shamefully shunned and ignored by fellow countrymen like you, not a single Kashmiri Pandit has raised arms either against the State or Muslims. Not one of them has become a terrorist. So, Mr. Chandran take your hypocritical clap-trap and shove it up your and your leftist comrades posteriors. Jai hind! Vande Matram.
Hector Archytas says
We have quiet a lot of demographic data. Either native or Banglesdhi invader, they are guilty of genoboum and so they have to be contained.
What about the UK pakistani who turned from 65000 to 4 millions in only 60 years !
IndianTiger says
What a load of crap you are spewing!
What a load of crap you are spewing Ravi Chandran (or Rafiq Khan)! Rakhine is Rohingya land? Then, Mecca is Hindu land and all muslims must get out of there. The Rohingya scum are nothing but illegal Bangladesh migrants who have waged a jihad against Burmese state. Burma is now hitting back, as it should. It takes a lot to rile up a Buddhist and they have taken a lot of pain from Rohingyas. Like other muslims, these green slimes never thought of co-existing with their hosts (Burmese) and now they are getting the payback.
What a load of crap
john vieira says
It is what it is…and they are what they are…pariahs to humanity and even unto themselves…
aMan says
MR PV. Are you out of your mind? If they had been peaceful, they didn’t have to run; Indian army didn’t have to do multiple surgical strikes inside Myanmar to kill terrorists and eliminate their bases. They are as peaceful as Kashmiris before they become the majority.
Chand says
aMan says: “If they had been peaceful, they didn’t have to run; Indian army didn’t have to do multiple surgical strikes inside Myanmar to kill terrorists and eliminate their bases.”
Sorry to disagree but you are wrong.
Indian Army struck inside Myanmar to kill Naga terrorists (or insurgents). And the Nagas aren’t Muslims but a tribe of Christians who want to secede from India.
Chand says
And, incidentally, Nagas in Myanmar want to secede from Myanmar too.
aniruddha biswas says
Nice try, Mr. Taqia Expert, but the world isn’t going to be fooled anymore. Rohingya Muslims are suspected to be behind the disappearance of over 800 Hindus in Myanmar. These are based not only on Myanmar Government reports, but eyewitness accounts of fleeing Hindus from Rakhine state. They have described how gangs of Rohingya jehadi terrorists surrounded hapless Hindu villages, raped the young women, and murdered in cold blood the men and even the children. There have been mass graves of Hindu men, women and children already, in and around Rakhine province. Let me inform the readers of Jihad Watch that what this scum so-called Ravi Chandran is trying to do, is being attempted by many more Islamist scum in India. They come on TV channels and try to paint the Rohingya Muslims as victims, fully knowing the real truth. So there’s only one thing I want to say to Ravi Chandran and other Islamist scum. Read this loud and clear. Your game is up. We know what your intentions are. We Hindus in India will never let it happen. We have enough mad dog Islamists in our country already. We don’t want any more. We will not allow any more, come what may. Remember that, slimy jihadi. Now put your tail between your legs and run.
Vajapeya says
I hope you were lucid enough, when writing what you wrote or you are probably the typical lefty/Se(i)cular/libtard that habitually spews out crap.
“Just who is claiming that the Muslim Rohingyas are murdering their brethren Hindu Rohingyas?”
You forget that to Muslim Rohingyas their “Hindu brethren” are still kafirs and do i need to tell you how Kafirs are to be treated as per the canonical texts of Islam? Also do you mean to tell, the bodies unearthed from a mass graveyard(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4926446/Rohingya-accused-mass-killings-Hindus-Myanmar.html) were all wax dolls?
“It is the Burman fascist Regime which wants to annex historical Rohingya land ”
Where on earth is this traditional land that Rohingyas occupied?What is the proof for this? Like for example Kashmir was the home land for the Kashmir pandits since time immemorial, even 1000 years before Islam was even conceived off. This is an unshakable historical fact. Is there anything to show that there is something called traditional Rohingya land?? Also why on earth does even a congenital terrorist nation like Pakistan not allow Rohingya refugees?Why doesn’t any other Muslims nation except Bangladesh, allow them??
I never saw any sick secular leftist libturd shed the same tears for Kashmiri pandits. Also complicit in this ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pandits are Western nations like the U.K, US etc, the stupid dhimmi organization called the UN. That, it is a dhimmi is proved bu the fact that Saudi Arabia is heading its human rights council. This stupid organization never spoke out during that time and now it raises a hue and cry when India decides to deport refugees. UN, you idiot dhimmi just shut the “eff” up and mind your own business. India is a sovereign nation and has a right to determine what is best of its security.
Chand says
There are two issues here:
1. It is definitely possible that Jihadi Rohingyan Muslims had massacred those Hindus, found in the mass grave, as reported and have infiltrated the refugees. Lawlessness in Rakhine in recent days might have given some brutal Jihadi Muslims opportunity to carry out this atrocity. Rohingyan Muslims Jihadis have been spotted with the Pakistani Jihadis, helped by their ISI.
It is also possible that this massacre was false propaganda by Myanmar. Whatever the truth, if these arrested people are the perpetrators of the massacre, they need to proven guilty and punished with the utmost severity, i.e. the death penalty.
ARSA has denied responsibility and claim that they do not ‘attack civilians’. Also Rohingyan Hindus are among the refugees who have fled and narrate tales of atrocities committed by the Myanmarese army on them too.
All refugees need to be vetted and screened for terrorists or criminals. However, humanitarian assistance to the innocent victims of war, genocide or ethnic cleansing is still being practiced by civilized nations, of course.
3. Most of the Rohingyans of Rakhine, whether Hindu or Muslim (and the majority are Muslim), were born there and are descendants of immigrants, illegal or otherwise, from Bangladesh, which has been going on for the last four hundred years. Surely they are Myanmarese citizens. A person born in a country is a citizen of that country, usually. So it is in the most civilized nation on earth, the United States of America.
The brutal, uncivilized and backward Myanmarese govt., which is actually their army (and so it is not really Suu Kyi’s fault as she doesn’t seem to have much power yet, having just recently been freed from many years of house arrest), does not recognize the most basic of human rights of their own country men and collectively punish them for the crimes of a few.
No wonder many other ethnic minorities in Myanmar are up in arms against the Myanmarese army and want to secede, e.g. the Nagas, Kachins, Shan, etc.
So Rohingyan Muslim rebels have been battling the army there too and in the latest incident twelve soldiers were killed.
Does that mean that all non-combatant Rohingyans, non-Jihadis or otherwise innocent civilians are to be targeted in reprisal? This is ethnic cleansing if ever there was one.
This would be like the Native Americans of today suddenly declaring most US citizens of today ‘illegal immigrants’ and wanting them driven out of ‘their’ land. Why? Because most of today’s Americans have settled there since the last five hundred years and some of them or their ancestors are guilty of crimes committed against some of the Native Americans of today or the past.
How come standards are different for Rohingyan Muslims from Rakhine, Myanmar, and Muslims of the USA, UK, Germany, Belgium, France, Spain, Russian, China, India?
Did the armies of those nations descend on their local, civilian Muslim populations after each horrific terrorist attack committed there by Jihadi Muslims and shoot at them indiscrimanately, drive them out of their houses, burn them down and push them en masse across their borders at the points of their guns?
Of course not! Because they are civilized nations which believe in the simple obvious principle that no innocents are to be punished for the crimes committed by others, even if they happen to be from the same ethnic group, religion, caste, tribe, nationality.
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, REMEMBER?
So why the different moral standards for Rohingyans, Muslims or otherwise? Because they are Asian, poor, disenfranchised, miserable, unable to help themselves? So instead of helping them, they are to be further demonized. Let them drown in the sea! Who gives a hoot? Just a bunch of horrible, ill clad, pathetic Muslims, eh? They believe in their pedophile prophet and their Satanic book and so let them perish!
Something similar happened in Germany some nine decades ago.
Blame a whole group for the crimes of some.
All this will just add more fuel and fodder to global Jihad.
Tormented Rohingyan Muslims will just have to be open that book of their prophet and the cure is right there. Fight Jihad! You are going to die anyway, in humiliation and shame. So fight and kill the infidels and die in honor!
The Koran is a manual for Jihad. The point is not to allow innocent Muslims to fall into it. Jihad can automatically become a tool for national liberation movements too if conditions permit. Or does one expect ALL Rohingyan Muslims to take this atrocity lying down and quietly disappear into oblivion without a fight? Eight out of ten might but two out of ten will surely try and fight and die a dignified death. And if the armed struggle against injustice is being provided by Jihadis, eg. ARSA , then they have no option but to join. Fundamentalist Muslims of Bangladesh, just day before yesterday, held a rally in Dhaka and publicly called for arming Rohingyan refugees and sending them back to Myanmar to wage Jihad.
Therefore, right thinking, civilized nations want to solve this problem by trying to make the Myanmarese govt. face the truth, admit their faults, correct themselves, allow the refugees to return, protect their civil and human rights and provide law and order for all in Rakhine and the rest of Myanmar and ask for and accept assistance from other nations if unable to do it themselves.
As there is a huge class difference between rich and poor Muslims worldwide, so there is a world of difference between the kinds of Jihad happening worldwide. There is hardly a comparison between the ego maniacal dreams of rich Gulf Arabs supporting the Caliphate’s death cult, wanting to fly the black flag over the White House, prompting well off Muslims in developed countries to find some kind of glory in Jihadi martyrdom, and the brutalized and hounded Rohingyans, homeless and stateless, living and dying like animals, who take up Jihad and the gun to live another day.
BTW, two recent quotes from a couple of non-Muslim Nobel Laureates:
“I am … breaking my vow of silence on public affairs out of profound sadness about the plight of the Muslim minority in your country (Myanmar), the Rohingya,” (Desmond Tutu)
“They (Myanmar Buddhists) should remember, Buddha, in such circumstances, Buddha (would have) definitely helped those poor Muslims. So, still I feel that (it’s) so very sad … so sad…” (Dalai Lama)
Chand says
sorry, type by no. 3 I meant no. 2
aniruddha biswas says
I would have fallen for your arguments, Chand, if only I had not been exposed to many like you, day in and day out on Indian TVs talk shows, trying the ‘good cop, bad cop’ trick to justify the violent actions of Islam. However, your logic does not stand up to closer scrutiny. Firstly, your statement that ‘ARSA has denied responsibilty about the massacre of Hindus’ is deceptively trusting about a terrorist group whose founder is a Pakistani/ISI trained jihadi, and consequently sure to be a pathological hater of Hindus. In fact you, yourself, have mentioned the Pakistani connection. Secondly, it is a lie propagated by many covert Islamists that the murder of these Hindus was an action of the Myanmarese state. Countless of these Hindu victims have recounted their experience to Indian TV channels who managed to make their way to these refugee camps, and one thing was common to all – they were attacked by masked men who first tried to force them to convert to Islam, and them murdered those who refused. I can’t imagine the Myanmarese military to be indulging in these rabid acts of religious intolerance, even if we assume that you are right, and they were the ones who did it. Now coming to your playing the ‘poor, innocent, ill-fed Asian muslims card, let me point out that vast multitudes of Hindus in the Rakhine region are also poor and ill-fed, but never have they tried to carry out terrorist attacks on anybody, so this logic about so-called poverty being an excuse for violence doesn’t quite stand. Lastly, as far as Desmond Tutu’s and the Dalai Lama’s statements are concerned, one would have to say that these two probably lack the courage of conviction of Aung San Suu Kui, and have taken the easy way out. They are probably aware of the way the wind blows in the western media, and the so-called liberal circles, and have also no doubt noted the campaign of vilification raging against Aung San Suu Kui, a nobel laureate herself, simply for standing by the truth.
Chand says
aniruddha biswas says; “Lastly, as far as Desmond Tutu’s and the Dalai Lama’s statements are concerned, one would have to say that these two probably lack the courage of conviction of Aung San Suu Kui, and have taken the easy way out.”
So now Desmond Tutu and the Dalai Lama are inferior to Ms.Suu Kyi in moral conviction??!!!!
Magnificent!
FYI, Mr. Tutu has been a lifelong fighter against injustice and apartheid in one of the most inhuman, brutal and dangerous regimes of recent times…….South Africa apart from being a dedicated Anglican Christian priest..
And Mr. Dalai Lama is a follower of another most fearless human being Gautama the Buddha, a renunciate and a celibate monk who is is not afraid to spell out what is in his mind for a second.
Ms. Suu Kyi is no doubt a very courageous and exceptional woman but it seems that she is not yet able to speak out against her Army and the Army still calls the shots there, especially regarding security, problems of rebels, etc.
Thought_Weaver says
@chand
Aniruddha Biswas said,
“Firstly, your statement that ‘ARSA has denied responsibilty about the massacre of Hindus’ is deceptively trusting about a terrorist group…”
What makes you believe what ARSA says? How come you take them at face value and not the Burmese Govt or Army?
Also tell us why do you think the Hindus of Rakhine did not pick up arms against the state if they are indeed being massacred by the Burmese army as you claim. Just like the Kashmiri Pandits too haven’t?
Kindly enlighten us intolerant lot with your insights. Thanks.
Chand says
Thought_Weaver says: “Also tell us why do you think the Hindus of Rakhine did not pick up arms against the state if they are indeed being massacred by the Burmese army as you claim. Just like the Kashmiri Pandits too haven’t?”
But they should! It is always just to resist injustice.
Vajapeya says
Chand, take a few in as refuges and see what happens. See what happened is Europe? The stupid hag Angela Merkel, the idiot Macron etc are changing Europe now. The west will cease to exist as we know it in another 30 years. There are daily cases of groping, molestation’s, trucks ramming into crowds etc etc The moment they reach a critical mass in population , BOOOM!!! the host country is screwed. As many others say in the comments why Kashmiri pandits never took up arms, why the Hindu Rohingya in Rakhine? I never see you argue anything in their favor. This good cop/bad cop routine is not going to work. If anything, 1200 years of jihad has made people wary of these people. Also Su kyi is a brave women fighting for her country unlike the stupid German Chancellor and the French PM. Even if she seems like a merciless demon her first duty is the safety of her country and not towards anybody else.
The Rohingya are living in Rakhine since the 60’s. Why was there no major backlash till recently? The issue is as i stated the Islamic Rohingya population increased and Voila!! we have got loot, rapes etc etc of the Kafir. Now the Burmese army retaliates and you cry for that? Yes the army is no angel and they might have overdone it. But the tipping point happens when the Muslims increase in population. It is like keeping fire and cotton near by to each other. Being a reader of JW, you must have seen Roberts articles on Quranic verses that support such a slaughter. Also Islamic Jihad is agnostic to poverty or richness. Both kind of Muslims take part in it. So it is not guaranteed that alleviating poverty level of Muslims will result in zero Jihadis.
martin says
Satans muslims moved into burma from bangladesh with the intention of taking some of burma, early in the 1940’s.
In 1942 satans muslims butcherd 50,000 budhists.
They are evil muslims,as they all are, that is all.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Bengali Muslims are never “brothers” to “pagan infidel” Hindus!
Their own Qur’an orders them to kill all pagans, not even try to convert them!
PissLam says
Islam would be OK if it was not excessively evil.
Frank Anderson says
Just a little evil is okay? How much before it is not? A few murders, a few mutilations, a few child molestings, rapes, slaves, conquests, lies. . .? All those are okay? What is an acceptable level of evil to the victims?
Ren says
Islam is posing a threat all over the world. No surprise. Its founder Muhammad was a thug.
brane pilot says
Rohingya women have, on average, about 10 children. Some have as many as 17 children.
Rohingya men frequently have multiple wives.
Any society hosting a minority group with this level of overbreeding will be overrun in a few generations.
It is a mathematical certainty.
The great question of our age is what can societies hosting overbreeding minorities do to survive?
Do societies being overrun by the Rohingya and their ilk even have a right to survive?
The UN seems to say, ‘no’.
Slow ethnic cleansing is good. It is the fast ethnic cleansing that gets people’s attention, that is bad.
Khushi Patel says
Burma should send all the muslim rohingyas to Europe – they will be welcomed, housed, given benefits, medical care etc without being expected to work.
And India should take in the few Hindu rohingyas who have not yet been butchered by the muslim rohingyas.
This way everyone will be happy.
Dacritic says
Yeah. Especially to Germany, France, Belgium, Sweden and of course, GREAT Britain.
IndianTiger says
Good points! After more than 1000 years of experience with muslims, India DOES NOT need or want any more muslims.Why? Displaced and victimized Jews and Zorastrians (from Persia) have been sheltered in India for thousands of years, yet not one case of conflict with Hindus. Buddhists from Tibet have been sheltered in India in recent times (since 1950s): no conflict with Hindus. It is only muslims that have created conflicts and violence. We DO NOT want them.
Vajapeya says
Yes Indian Tiger you are right 100%. Thanks to Roberts JW site we get a forum to discuss these things. The comments sections of most Indian online news paper articles are either disabled or they never allow these kinds of discussions. Your comment is deleted in 5 minutes after you post.
Vajapeya says
Patel you have left out the biggest Dhimmi only after Sweden, in the list of European countries which are being converted to Dar-al-Islam ,the U.K. Thanks to Teresa May even moving your hands is considered as Islamophobic and the Scotland Yard swoops down on you and incarcerates you. But for the returning ISIS Jihadis it is “Booty” time.
Vajapeya says
Sorry oh you have included it as Great Britain. Was expecting UK, my mistake