Islamic apologists in the West routinely claim that Islam doesn’t condone wife-beating. Yet here is a Muslim cleric who didn’t get the memo.
“‘Beat her in a way that doesn’t turn her skin red’: Visiting Islamic preacher from Iran tells Sydney mosque audience it’s OK for a husband to bash his wife,” by Stephen Johnson, Daily Mail Australia, October 17, 2017:
A visiting Islamic preacher from Iran told a Sydney mosque it is okay for a husband to beat his wife as long as he doesn’t leave any red marks.
Sheikh Taleb al-Khozaei, a Shia cleric aligned with the Iranian theocracy, was a guest lecturer at the Hussainayet Ale Yassin Mosque at Sefton, in Sydney’s west.
In an Arabic language sermon, he said it was permissible for husbands to lightly beat their wives ‘as a last resort’ if they had been disobedient.
The western Sydney mosque which organised the visit has condemned that sermon promoting domestic violence and has vowed to bar him from returning.
Citing verse 4.34 of the Koran, Sheikh al-Khozaei said husbands could abandon their wives if they had been disobedient.
‘He must beat her only enough to bring her back home if she leaves,’ he said in a June sermon that was live streamed.
‘He must beat her in a way that doesn’t turn the skin red or dark.’
He then proceeded to explain how husbands could abandon their wives in the bedroom.
‘The first method is through advice, the second method is by abandoning them in the bedroom by turning his back towards her at night or sleeping in another place,’ he said.
‘The woman has honour, therefore by abandoning her you are humiliating her by making her feel that she has made a mistake by not serving her husband’s rights.’
Sheikh Taleb al-Khozaei’s fundamentalist sermon also described the method of beating ‘as a last resort’.
‘Here, beating takes place. But which type of beating? Don’t get me wrong,’ he said.
‘Islam is not a terrorist religion. The beating that doesn’t cause an affect and is not a beating for revenge.’
His sermon was based on section 4.34 of the Koran which advises husbands to abandon their disobedient wives.
‘Admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them,’ it says….
Eeee says
Beat her but don’t leave marks…. Islam culture.
Don’t beat your wife… Western culture.
Westman says
Has anyone noticed that everything is physical in Islam? Where is any regard for a woman’s feelings or emotional trauma? Oh, that’s right, they’re supposed to take care of hubby even while riding a camel. And when hubby is dreaming of a new wife or those virgins(this word is likely to overwhelm a Muslim man somewhere) in Jannah, they should be understanding…..
I have heard more than 2000 different American, European, and Indian love songs in my lifetime. Are there a hundred in any Muslim nation?
gravenimage says
There is no love in Islam, Westman.
PRCS says
As always, did any of those pious Muslims in attendance stand up and challenge him?
mortimer says
GREEN IS THE RIGHT COLOR FOR A MUSLIMA’S SKIN! It’s the SUNNA of the prophet!
Mohammed has already ‘challenged’ this ignorant mullah… When Aisha informed him of a woman whose skin was GREEN from beatings, Mohammed was SILENT and said NOTHING about it!
In Islam, something is APPROVED by silence. Mohammed apparently found no error when a man beats his wife until her skin turns GREEN. Green is the color of Islam.
mortimer says
Sad reality of wife beating in Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bVDL4fXLEg
gravenimage says
Disgusting–and note that no one does anything at all.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
Exact comment I was going post Mortimer. In the Sunnah itself Aisha complains to Mohammad that the believer women are bruised when the non-beliver women are not.
This clerics words are un-Mohammadin.
gravenimage says
Good question, PRCS.
PRCS says
A rhetorical question. I’ve never heard of an instance in which they have.
Can’t imagine that happening in Afghanistan, but–surely–any Muslim in the West claiming that Islam prohibits violence of any kind should have no problem standing up to misguided Muslim clerics.
gravenimage says
True, PRCS. But this gives the lie to idea that most Muslims in the West are “moderates”. Were that true, the whole congregation would have loudly objected.
PRCS says
A read of the original article reals the following from the usual flim flam artists:
*al-Khozaei’s fundamentalist sermon
*Mosque Poo-bah denounced the sermon
*We don’t condone it and in our community we don’t accept hitting of any kind
*I didn’t know that he was going to say something like that and after he finished his speech I did tell him that he shouldn’t have said it
*Because of that we are not inviting him back anymore
*’I also was going to take that video of off website but I had forgotten about it, thanks for the reminder
Betcha the Poo-bah was at that hate fest and could have stood up against him–if he’d actually wanted to..
He’s just making those excuses as a laughable CYA attempt.
IMO, what really needs to happen: get some ex-Muslims into these sermons to videotape the flock’s reaction to them and to make them famous on social media platforms; right after the Poo-bahs have made their denunciations public.
No Fear says
Yet, it is still acceptable to hit children in Australia as long as there is no bruising.
mortimer says
So… we can see the mullah is ‘crafting’ his remarks to be acceptable in Australia, but Islam’s source texts teach no such thing. Mohammed allowed women to be beaten so that their skin turned green from bruises.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
Wellington says
Query: Who’s more clueless, blacks who are voluntarily Muslim, considering the rank record of Islamic slavery of blacks going the whole way back to Mohammed himself (with no apology for such), or women who are voluntarily Muslim, considering the rank record of Islamic subjugation of women to men going the whole way back to Mohammed himself (with no apology for such)?
Of course, black women who are voluntarily Muslim are in a “special” category of their own. Certainly. Indubitably. Surely. And most stupidly.
No one of sense and knowledge should be a Muslim if allowed not to be (often not the case of course since Islam thrives on coercion of sundry kinds), but blacks who are willingly Muslim and women who are willingly Muslim are, indeed, truly confused and ignorant human beings.
Then there is that “special category” of black Muslim women I have already mentioned. Oh yeah, it’s a very special “category.”
Islam continues to prosper to the extent it does for two reasons above all: 1) ignorance; 2) fear.
mortimer says
Agree with Wellington’s previous comment that anyone who chooses to become Muslim must be emotionally unhealthy.
Dr. Wafa Sultan (psychiatrist) said something similar, namely, that anyone who believes that Mohammed is a role model cannot be considered emotionally well.
maghan says
Add to the list Europeans who are willingly Muslims–given large numbers of females kidnapped by Muslim Turks for their slave harems–where the females were used mainly as breeders. Or the kidnappings launched from the North African coast.
mortimer says
– Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, “You have made us (women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away for I disliked to face him.” – Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490
– “I have not seen any women suffering as much as the believing women.” – Child-bride Aisha lamenting a Muslim wife whose skin was green from beatings (Sahih al Bukhari 5825)
– “Hang up your scourge where your wife can see it.” – from Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525)
– “The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.” -Abu Dawud (2142)
Jayell says
This all seems pretty outrageous. Then I recall all those instances in Western entertainment media and on the stage where it’s apparently acceptable/amusing for women to physically attack men; e.g., slaps round the face, and (for UK readers) that famous scene in ‘Fawlty Towers’ where Sybil viciously attacks Basil and an incompetent builder with an umbrella for being ‘disobedient’, which in real life could have been downright dangerous. It was supposed to be OK and funny. No, it isn’t. So, if we’re (rightly) going to go on about the unacceptability of physical assault in our social interactions, let’s stop being sexist hypocrites.
gravenimage says
There is no doubt that there are abusive women, and men who are abused. I had a male friend who had been abused in a previous relationship. Part of the problem was that he was so embarrassed by it, and feared no one would take it seriously.
There is also no doubt that it is far more common for men to beat women. I think this is why women going after men with frying pans is sometimes considered funny–although it is certainly not my kind of humor–because it is an inverse of how things usually are.
I think there is much less domestic violence overall in the West than there used to be, and that it is taken very seriously by most people now–including law enforcement and the courts.
Islam could tear this all down.
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslim cleric says Muslims can beat wives “in a way that doesn’t turn the skin red or dark”
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Of course, this is mainstream Islam–except for the caveat about not leaving marks.
Note that one point he made is that women should be beaten so that they won’t leave–in Islam, there is no escape from these brutal “marriages”.
Islam–the religion of bullies and thugs.
And this Mosque has publicly condemned this–probably since they got caught.
But are they *really* abjuring the teachings of the Qur’an? I very much doubt it…
mortimer says
Islam is the religion of sadomasochism.
Ren says
Muslims beat their wives with love… of course!
Karen says
Yes, these are the good kinds of beatings; they leave no physical marks, or “affects”, just normal love-beatings to give guidance, induce guilt, psychologically scar her…but no “revenge” because that would make the beatings bad.
apexpoint says
Yes, they can beat their wives till their internal organs bleed but no marks on the skins. Some wives will die, other will be landed in the hospitals. Called it the religion of peace with extreme violence ???
Stan Lee says
……but by all means and with the will of Allah, continue beating them as the Prophet has ordained such power to husbands…….do remember to avoid causing red skin or black & blue bruises.
Now…who else could think of such consideration but the Prophet?”
Karen says
Yes, further proof that Islam ushered in ground-breaking women’s rights and equality. Mohammad was quite the feminist, of course.
Charlie Martel says
He should be charged with ‘Incitement to Crime’ imo. If the law was imposed, a lot of this nonsense would be stopped.
gravenimage says
Yes–we have to start vigorously enforcing our laws.
Manny says
Maybe we should beat on his testicles in a way they don’t turn red or dark and see if the cleric likes it.
Sarah says
Beat her lightly -you don’t want to leave marks on your property, but you do want to degrade that property and make sure it learns it’s lessons well.
It’s a submissive, obedient, breeding machine who cooks and cleans and stays indoors. It needs to learn it’s place, right?
This animal looks like something that Matt Parker and Trey Stone would have drawn up to represent a Menacing Muslim character, on South Park. I’d insert a cartoon image here of some leering male chasing after a distressed woman, or something but I’ll be buggared if I can work out how to attach things on comments on JW.
gravenimage says
You can’t post images directly to Jihad Watch, but you *can* post links. Here is one:
http://www.snouts-in-the-trough.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/muslim-rape-cartoon.jpg
Sarah says
Thanks, Graven.
So I use the website box at the bottom before I submit? Handy to know, thanks!
That’s an intense cartoon. I’m torn between laughing and feeling horrified, because its the damn truth. Free speech indeed!
gravenimage says
Yes–that cartoon *is* horrifying–it is also spot on.
If you want to post a similar link, Sarah, you just post as usual. Just copy the URL of the link you want to post, and put it in your comments.
For instance, if I wanted to link to your post (the one I am replying to), I would copy the URL and post it here:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/australia-muslim-cleric-says-muslims-can-beat-wives-in-a-way-that-doesnt-turn-the-skin-red-or-dark#comment-1757852
I hope this is clear. 🙂
Henner720 says
the multiculti should read oilmoney.
Anne Smith says
The cartoon is a terrible illustration of what actually happened in real life – in the rape scandals in Rotherham the only people to be arrested were two fathers who broke into a house to rescue their daughters.
The police arrested and charged them with breaking and entering. The Muslims were left in peace to carry on raping.
Sarah says
Jesus Christ, Anne. I did not know it was based on reality.
Thank-you for telling me that. I’m shocked. Sickened, but unsurprised, I suppose, when I really look at it closely.
I cannot imagine the fury and disbelief those father’s must have felt. I hope those Police Officer’s at the very very least, had a terrible taste in their mouth’s for doing this. Its one thing to do your job – its another thing to do it, despite it going completely against your own values and ethics.
There is moral accountability there, at the very least.
Jesus Christ. That’s enough internet for me today.
gravenimage says
This is true, Anne. Most of these girls were vulnerable because they did not have adults watching out for them–but the few who did did not get much support from the police in trying to rescue their girls, and some were even–as here–persecuted themselves.
Here is the sickening story:
“Rotherham dads were arrested after tracking down abusers”
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rotherham-dads-were-arrested-after-tracking-down-abusers-1-6807187
MFritz says
And it’s all in the book. They don’t have to be radicals or fundamentalists, just be a “good” muslims and read and follow the q’uran…
Henner720 says
put it this way. since world is islam, it is not bad to do islam things.while it is bad to ? the gangsta childrapists allah.if you do not follow or ? the world, -witch is gangsta childrapists allahs- you risk your life.when with non gangsta childrapists pretend to dislike it.sideeffect you bring corruption.( say 1 do other)to enemy.
religionofpeace says
Only morons will buy what the Muslim cleric sell. Beating wive without leaving any red and black on her skin is just like Aisha remained virgin after Muhammed fucked her when she was nine.
Henner720 says
muslims can beat there wifes – all 4 off the pre teen s – in a sensitive skin preserving way. no need for Dior. oxymoron : brutally soft. we are all appeaced now! say no more say no more.no one looks right through this . this nonstop corrupt pretend to befriend us. adwrrrr. we the alien marsmen rats and pigs , do we deserve better after all.to be civilized is betrail of gangsta childrapists allahs ways.he is in a bad spot.
Henner720 says
put it this way. since world is islam, it is not bad to do islam things.while it is bad to ? the gangsta childrapists allah.if you do not follow or ? the world, -witch is gangsta childrapists allahs- you risk your life.when with non gangsta childrapists pretend to dislike it.sideeffect you bring corruption.( say 1 do other)to enemy.
Henner720 says
it is the core of islam. in enemy territorie stranding shitting in ppl face. is fun 4 islam. do not like holy Christians guitar singing..not spicy. not gangsta. the kick you get from wrongdoing is the drug of islam.
tim gallagher says
Many people won’t hear about this story, but I suspect there will be the usual appalling silence from the leftie feminist crowd out here in Australia who do know about this neanderthal’s speech. It happens regularly. They’ll howl about examples of misogyny committed by non-Muslim, especially white, western men, but will just shut up if it is a Muslim expressing misogynistic sentiments or committing violence against a woman. They run a protection racket for Islam. The silence will be deafening. They have zero integrity and are complete hypocrites. I’ve seen comments that these people, who so often attack non-Muslim men, are too scared of the threats and retribution they might face if they criticise Muslims. The same way the left often attack Christians because they know Christians won’t get violent in response, whereas Muslims will. That may be the reason, but I think it is just that the people of the left continuously side with Islam because they hate and want to destroy our western civilisation. Whatever the reason, I bet there will be the usual total silence from the left wing feminists. Such hypocrites and defenders of barbaric Islam.
Dacritic says
How the fuck are you supposed to hit someone and not turn the skin red? Oh right, Zakir Naik says to hit with a handkerchief. Really. Picture a grown bearded Muslim man, swinging a handkerchief at his wife.
John Forbes says
Our lot of COWARDS in Charge must want civil strife !!! Thy keep bribg in utter JACK ASSES like this & celebrate MULTICULTURALISM & POLITICAL CORRECTNESS & DIVERSITY !
This is RIDICULOUS !
Where did this IDIOTIC Social Experiment start ???? What NONSENSE !!
El says
Not his fault at all, Australia is the North Korea of feminism, yet the feminist witches that run the joint never utter a word.