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Australia plans to detain child jihadis as young as 10

Oct 6, 2017 4:18 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

Unicef Australia has expressed concern at proposals that could see children as young as 10 held for two weeks without charge under new terror legislation.

The reason Australia is even considering this move is because “ISIS specializes in recruiting children.” A paramount difficulty for Westerners is in understanding the zeal of the jihadist. Take this, for instance: “Gaza children put on an open play about stabbing and killing Israelis.” Such indoctrination constitutes the worst kind of abuse to children.

It is indeed “a shocking and drastic step to propose, without charge, the detention of a child of 10 years old,” but even more disturbing is training that innocent child to hate and murder. These children are in need of protection, and as Justice Minister Michael Keenan has said: “it is deeply regrettable that the new laws must apply to minors.” He also added that “safeguards would be in place for all minors and extra measures in place for under-14s.”

A German psychiatrist has pointed out grimly “that psychiatry has found people’s temperament and personality are usually fixed by the age of 12.” Children who are subjected to radicalization must be taken away from the offending environment. The question now is how to care for these abused children.

In the meantime, a zero tolerance policy against jihad preachers and those who spread the jihad ideology should be implemented in every Western state.

“Australian plans for child terror detentions cause backlash”, BBC News, October 6, 2017:

Unicef Australia has expressed concern at proposals that could see children as young as 10 held for two weeks without charge under new terror legislation.

They insist that a “clear distinction” is necessary between children and adults in the legal system.

A minister said the plans were needed because so-called Islamic State “specialises in recruiting children”.

But opposition politicians and charities have expressed their concern that minors are included in the plans.

“Unicef Australia is concerned that the proposal could risk situations where children could be arbitrarily detained,” director of communication Jennifer Tierney said.

“Children should only ever be subject to detention as a measure of last resort and for the shortest appropriate time.

“We urge Australian governments to consider the vulnerabilities of children and ensure strict safeguards for their rights and wellbeing in all circumstances.”

State and territorial leaders approved the plans with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at a Coalition of Australian Governments (COAG) meeting on Thursday.

But some opposition politicians claim they have been kept in the dark about the full details of the legislation.

‘Shocking and drastic’
ABC Australia reported that opposition Shadow Attorney General said: “The government’s provided no details at all, but at present, it’s a shocking and drastic step to propose, without charge, the detention of a child of 10 years old.”

But Justice Minister Michael Keenan has said it is “deeply regrettable” that the new laws must apply to minors.
“What about if an 11-year-old was planning to commit a terrorist act and the police didn’t have any power to do anything about it?” he said on Australian radio.

“We can’t have a situation where that is the case, so I am very happy for these laws never to be used.”

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  1. Johan says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    so when some of the children murder can we hold Unicef accountable?

    • mortimer says

      Oct 6, 2017 at 5:46 pm

      Teaching children to hate is the worst form of child abuse. – below Hitler Youth survivor Alfons Heck
      Former Hitler Youth Officer on Radical Islam… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaZgwTlMME

      • WPM says

        Oct 7, 2017 at 8:44 am

        to Mortimer
        Thank you for the youtube the parallels of Nazism and true Islam is unmistakable ,the world did not take Hitler seriously until war was inevitable. Islam is older and stronger then Nazism it crosses all races and cultures. Brain washing is easier in children and harder to reverse then in adult conversion.

        • Shane says

          Oct 7, 2017 at 10:50 am

          Muslim kids brought up by devout parents in Muslim countries can become impossible to change their hateful and violent personality at a very young age. I am afraid that these kids must be kept in psych wards until they are well enough to not present a danger to the public.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 7, 2017 at 9:57 pm

        Thanks for the link, Mortimer.

  2. Michael says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    Australia should execute those who radicalize these kids.

    • Telh says

      Oct 7, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      Yes – child radicalisation should be a capital offense.

  3. gravenimage says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    Australia plans to detain child jihadis as young as 10
    ……………………

    Unicef should be concerned that there are Jihadists this young–not that Australia plans to protect her citizens from them.

    • A Lee says

      Oct 7, 2017 at 8:27 am

      I think 10 might be too old as the cut-off. The Catholic Church calls age 7 the “age of reason.”

      As long as the detainees are treated well, I see no problem with it. We don’t want to see a repeat of the horrible Australian “orphanages” of the 1950s and ’60s. This isn’t an easy decision, but the alternative is worse, for the little kids themselves as well as for society.

      Detention is the lesser of two unsavory choices.

  4. shoehorn says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    The lil’ head-choppers shouldn’t be let back into Australia.

  5. john spielman says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    good!

  6. Expat88 says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Whatever happened to not letting them in in the first place so you don’t have to determine which children are radicalized?

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 6, 2017 at 6:19 pm

      +1

    • Mo says

      Oct 6, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      @ Expat88

      “Whatever happened to not letting them in in the first place so you don’t have to determine which children are radicalized?”

      That’s logical and reasonable. And you know, we can’t have that!

  7. PaulM says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    By the time they are 3, it is too late for 99 percent of them. Lock the little bastards up and throw away the key. And as well, lock up the fascist, sexually deviant, cruel, malicious parents with them.

  8. Sarah says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    Don’t let them in. That’s the simplest step.

    Shoot them, if they’re let in and are shrieking Islamic nonsense. I don’t care what age they are. These kids are trained from birth to hate us and to spout this nonsense. They are not fixable. the are not able to be rehabilitated.

    They are ticking time bombs. And short of the Muslim rabble in Australia – and the Greens party and their idiot supporters, I doubt you’d find a single Aussie who honestly wants these little terrorists inside our borders.

    Why should we cover the cost and take on the risk, for life, by letting these little animals anywhere near our nation?

    If a juvenile Brown Snake is found slithering in your backyard, you don’t pick it up and give it hugs and try to raise it inside the house as a pet, just because its a juvenile. Its still a Brown Snake and its still venomous and aggressive and still completely capable of killing. You remove the threat as soon as possible. That’s just commonsense.

    If they’re old enough to walk and talk, then the are old enough to be a risk. That’s the truth, no matter how unpalatable it may be to some people.

    • A Lee says

      Oct 7, 2017 at 8:17 am

      If you advocate murdering children, you are no better than the jihadists. Your comments are sick and disgusting.

      • Sarah says

        Oct 7, 2017 at 10:23 pm

        Lee. Oh SPARE ME your self righteous outrage and indignation.

        As far as I’m concerned, the lives of every single Australian, child or adult, comes first before these little monsters.

        If you want to be sickened and disgusted – then go be sickened and disgusted towards the parents and fellow community members who have turned these kids into extremely dangerous, ticking time bombs.

        Blame THEM for training these kids from birth, to hate and to kill.

        Save your breath with your outrage towards me. I could care less. I’ve said what I’ve said because I CARE about Australian children and Australian adults having the fundamental, basic human right of LIVING THEIR LIVES SAFELY IN OUR COUNTRY, WITHOUT FEAR OF SLAUGHTER AT THE HANDS OF THESE LITTLE MONSTERS.

        Go hang out with those kids who you want to give the benefit of the doubt to and we’ll see how far your hand wringing and moral equivocating gets you.

        But you won’t, will you? You wouldn’t go near any of them. You won’t have them in your house. You won’t let your kids go to school with them, let alone play with your kids. You’ll keep them as far away from you and your loved ones as possible. You will watch them constantly, with suspicion. You’re just too much of a coward to admit it. You’d rather appear to everyone else like the good guy, than just be honest about the situation. People will die because of that. Because of people like you and your vanity in needing to appear accommodating and kind.

        That means blood on your hands, the blood of innocent people, all because of your narcissism and need to get a pat on the back for your confected compassion.

        How dare you deny every other Australian the same rights that you want for yourself. These kids are monstrous. They will only bring terrible problems and terrible danger to us all. I’m sorry to see that you’re too much of a coward to face the basic, simple truth of that.

  9. tim gallagher says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    The terrorist Muslim scumbag who shot dead the police accountant outside the News South Wales police headquarters in Parramatta, a western suburb of Sydney, was 15 years old. The murdering scumbags start young. Muslims are fed a diet of hatred for non-Muslims from the moment they are born, whether at home in their poisonous families or at the mosques or the Muslim schools. I couldn’t care about the civil rights of these brainwashed, potentially murderous youngsters. The only real answer is to keep them out. We non-Muslims need protection. Quarantine Islam in its barbaric Muslim nations. I just heard some guy, I think a Green politician, on the radio news, call this idea of locking up 10 year old Muslims, “Orwellian”. If idiots like the Greens are against it, then it has to be a good idea. It is an excellent move. A far, far better idea is to stop letting Muslims into the country and deport as many as possible. Many of the Muslims here cost us a fortune to try to keep tabs on to try to prevent them murdering us. A complete negative for the country.

  10. Ciudadano says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    ‘Islamic State “specialises in recruiting children”’

    ISIS has become a very convenient Islam’s scapegoat. Everything wrong in Islam now is ISIS fault not Islam’s

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 7, 2017 at 10:03 pm

      Yes–of course, this goes way beyond ISIS. Jihad is a core part of Islam itself.

  11. Yoda Dunbar says

    Oct 6, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    This is wrong on so many fronts, why detain, DEPORT them with their parents, problem solved

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 9, 2017 at 8:05 pm

      Yes.

  12. Infidel says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 1:44 am

    This is CLASSIC EXAMPLE of WRONG PRIORITIES by the LEFTIST UNICEF…

  13. eddie says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 4:50 am

    The opposition Shadow Attorney General is a very wealthy Jewish lawyer who lives in a very wealthy Jewish enclave. His electorate is one of the most volatile Muslim ghettos in his home state of Victoria, if he was to visit his electorate and identify as Jewish he’d be thrill-seeking.

  14. carpediadem says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 4:52 am

    Note that this is something they criticise/demonise Israel for doing.

  15. Kasey says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 7:53 am

    Also all Islamic girls attending any school here get made to wear a hijab in preparation for later enforced attire to diplay their Islamic identity for Allah. However, with the introduction of ” facial recognition camera technology” everywhere, as a move by governments to protect against Islamic terrorism, well under way here now, part of that compulsory dress scheme may come undone if the burka gets banned as a consequence.

  16. Max says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 8:13 am

    Wrong formulation. Child abuse by Jihadi /Mujahedin parents countered is more correct. The use of child soldiers in several african civil wars is quite known. Obviously brainwashing and forced child labour especially in the service as child soldiers is child abuse, as well as the psychologic scarring of the children, which are the victims.
    If formulated this way, it’s more acceptable to explain why you need to take the right of custody from the child abuser and treat the injuries of child abuse, physical and psychological.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 7, 2017 at 10:07 pm

      Max, some of these Muslim youth can possibly be saved–but many more would be a threat to Australians, starting with their Infidel foster parents.

  17. Valkyrie Ziege says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 8:43 am

    ; Muhammadan birth-control = Old men
    indoctrinating young people to be self-destructive.

  18. John Forbes says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Not a SINGLE WESTERN GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD OF RELIGIOUS FANATICISM & REFUSES TO LISTEN AS WELL !
    THESE ISLAMISTS ARE NOT WILLING TO COMPROMISE AT ALL & WILL HAVE TO BE FOUGHT !
    BETTER TO FIGHT NOW THAT % ARE LOW !
    NOT LIKE SWEDEN WHO HAVE SURRENDERED ALREADY !
    ACTUALLY WESTERN EUROPE IS TOTALLY UNWILLING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES & SO THEY WILL FALL TO ISLAM !
    THE EAST LIKE POLAND & HUNGARY & SLOVAKIA & LATVIA & ESTONIA & LITHUANIA & SERBIA & RUSSIA I BELIEVE WILL STAND !!

  19. John Forbes says

    Oct 7, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    The UN is now controlled by the ISLAMIC BLOCK led by Saudi Arabia !
    They are trying very hard to make any criticism of ISLAM a criminal offence in ALL COUNTRIES & many WESTERN NATIONS are complying : CANADA being one where Justin Trudeau & KHALID have introduced M-103 with it leading to legal blasphemy laws & exclusive protection for ISLAM & not for any other faith !
    VERY FEW in the WEST are paying any attention as for the most part they have consigned their own Christian Faith to the waste bin & now consider Religious beliefs of no relevance & believe the belief systems of others can be ignored !
    This is a VERY DANGEROUS assumption with ISLAM as they FIRMLY BELIEVE in the SUPREMECY of ISLAM above all other FAITHS !
    It is the WESTS trashing of Christianity that has given ISLAM a TOTAL BELIEF in the ABILITY to INFILTRATE & SUBJUGATE the ENTIRE WORLD over time !
    To most in the WEST this seems like the REALM of the MAD but to the ISLAMISTS this is a RELIGIOUS DUTY to SUBJUGATE all & have everyone ruled by the SHARIA !

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