“Thamer Hameed Almestadi was likely suffering from a brief psychotic episode…”
In reality, when asked why he did it, Almestadi said, “I started listening to the Koran and understanding the meanings differently.”
But of course Canadian authorities aren’t going to admit the possibility that the Qur’an might incite violence. Once that is ruled out, they have decide that Almestadi is insane. He is just another example of the global outbreak of mental illness.
“UBC student not criminally responsible for attack on classmate,” by Kendra Mangione, CTV Vancouver, October 26, 2017:
A university student has been found not criminally responsible for an attempt to kill a classmate who lived in his dormitory last year.
Thamer Hameed Almestadi was likely suffering from a brief psychotic episode when he attacked a fellow international student, a judge said Thursday. Almestadi told police at the time that he’d believed God commanded him to sacrifice her.
The Saudi Arabian national will be detained in custody at the forensic psychiatric hospital in Chilliwack.
Almestadi was 18 when he attacked University of British Columbia student Mary Hare in October 2016, the court heard during his trial. Accused of slitting Hare’s throat and attempting to choke her, he was charged with attempted murder, aggravated assault and assault with a weapon.
While the Saudi Arabian student pleaded not guilty to the charges, the court heard Almestadi say he “just tried to kill somebody” in a three-hour police interview played during his trial.
During the interrogation, he told Sgt. Kevin Jeffrey that he thought in the moment that he thought she was the devil. He said he’d been overwhelmed with school work and hadn’t slept the night before.
Almestadi told Jeffrey felt heartbroken during the interview which took place just hours after the crime. He also detailed the attack in the recording, and said he cut Hare’s neck in five seconds.
The victim’s voice was also heard during the trial. Hare, a U.S. student who was 19 at the time, took the stand almost exactly a year after she was attacked and spoke in detail about what happened that day.
She described Almestadi – who she’d met briefly before her assault – attacking her with a knife. She fought back against her attacker, grabbing the blade of the knife and breaking it off….
elee says
Horseshit. Sometime civilization is going to have to say: either we let people obey their damned Koran and kill infidels, or else give them their sweet martyrdom. Or we can just surrender, become dhimmis, and die on the day some Muslim decides the deal is off, which their clerics say they can do at any time and for any or no reason.
Roberta Gabor says
There may come a time when they will get the upper hand, but if they do, it will be for a very brief time and they will never rule the world.
Savvy Kafir says
Roberta, That statement sounds a little over-confident. Now that millions of Muslims are living among us, purposefully out-breeding infidels in various parts of the civilized world, it’s definitely possible that they will someday be victorious with their Demographic Jihad — unless we begin to take effective measures to put an end to it.
butros says
canadian gov like the euros are an existential danger to their own people, we need a wall on that border to keep their mental diseases out of the USA
John Forbes says
FEW really understand the threat or how WELL FINANCED they are !
ISLAM is the NEW FASCISM & as often stated is actually far more dangerous than the Fascists of the 1930’s .
Their reach is also well underestimated along with their political power & their ability to Corrupt & BUY influence !
The CITY of LONDON is one area where Sharia Finance has huge clout & is one reason that the BRITISH have already been sold out by their Banking & Politicians !
I cannot see a British Establishment push back of any significance at all realistically !
I believe the BRITS sold out long ago !!
Voytek Gagalka says
Logical conclusion of that finding by “ingenious” Canadian authorities should be immediate institutionalizing of all Muslims since they all can suffer, potentially, from that same outbreak of mental illness. But of course they will not do that because of catch 22: they would have hit the rock of so called “Islamophobia” which is much worse that accusing somebody (without a proof) of “mental problems.” So will he walk free?
On another hand, in a sense they are right that he is “not criminally responsible.” He is not a criminal. He is enemy combatant.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“On another hand, in a sense they are right that he is “not criminally responsible.” He is not a criminal. He is enemy combatant.”
Fair point. This is more the way he would be viewed by a people understanding the nature of islam, and how it has carried on during the past 1400 years.
Greyhound Fancier says
“Temporary insanity” — is there truly such a condition? If so, that person should be locked up for life for the safety of everyone else.
Is this a way to get a bed in hospital vs. time in prison?
Mike MacArthur says
Temporay insanity is a legalistic term, To avoid prosecution, a temporarily insane person can be declared legally insane forever if he hears voices, and “hearing” the Qur’an qualifies.
AnniLinn says
You totally nail it with your last sentence.
Benedict says
“he thought she was the devil.” –
Here we have the phenomenon of projection again – which is foundational to Islam.
Westman says
Exactly! He was the devil and will be again, cause:
“..the hangman isn’t hangin’ and they put you on the street, yeah. You go back, Jack, do it again, wheel turnin’ ’round and ’round, You go back, Jack, do it again
gravenimage says
*Very true*, Benedict.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Thamer Hameed Almestadi was likely suffering from a brief psychotic episode when he attacked a fellow international student, a judge said Thursday. Almestadi told police at the time that he’d believed God commanded him to sacrifice her.”
In that one short paragraph we have the whole problem on display, western denial being the main culprit.
Because it couldn’t possibly be that a dangerous religious text, which does indeed carry the command to kill the unbelievers wherever they might be found, had it’s intended effect, could it now?
Sad that Canada will soon no longer be trusted to defend US citizens who come within its borders, let alone those of us who live here full time. All that most Canadians will complain about is how long the border crossings take to complete…..
Some day, soon, it is going to be necessary to start believing people, and books, when they say they want to kill us.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Also, the repeated quick and easy dismissal of muslim violence as being “mental illness” is a huge problem. Just because muslims killing unbelievers (or other muslims for that matter) doesn’t make sense to us, doesn’t mean the act was produced by a mental illness as defined by the DSM.
To keep calling jihad a mental illness is basically the same, in consequence, as our laws being governed by sharia and dhimmitude laws – muslims end up with lesser sentences for criminal acts than a non muslim would for the same acts.
gravenimage says
There is no reason to think this pious Muslim won’t do this again, if he thinks he can murder an Infidel.
Angry Aussie says
A mental health expert multiskilled as a judge. How convenient. A “brief psychotic episode”. Hmm.
We were told just this week in Australia by our most senior Australian Federal Police wanker that it is Australia’s fault that Muslims are radicalized here. Interestingly it is only ever Muslims that are radicalized.
Last year our head ASIO wanker told us that there is no correlation between Islamic teachings and terrorism.
Here in Australia, we have Imam Tawhidi, a Shia cleric, telling us there is a link and that the Quran teaches violence against non Muslims.
We have terrorists telling us what they are going to do and why.
The only people being honest about this whole issue of Islamic supremacy/worldwide caliphate/behead the unbelievers bullshit, is the terrorists, and a few Shia clerics sprinkled around the world.
Why can’t government decision makers hear us?
The majority of Australians want an immediate cessation of Muslim migrants. Still the government import them by the plane load.
I am certain that our leaders will only listen if one of them is brutally whisked off to paradise by a seeker of virgins.
makmorn says
If destruction be our lot, it must come from within it cannot come from abroad. We will be its authors and its finishers. Islam is nothing without its western sypathizers who enbolden and enable it.
Benedict says
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gravenimage says
Churchill wrote, “evil always wins through the strength of its splendid dupes…”
Stan Lee says
Throughout the English-speaking world nations, one cannot help but notice that in their effort to represent themselves as ” most humane” in their courtrooms, they all err terribly in cases brought against Muslims, courtroom decisions finding for the perpetrator rather than the victim. It’s as if the courts are aloof of crimes they would ordinarily convict a perpetrator born to British-type legal systems, while so delicately considering any Muslim immigrant’s or refugee’s crime against any female, Muslim or non-Muslim.
Let us face it, Muslims allowed entry in English-speaking societies, and I’ll include the U.S.A. in addition to British Commonwealth nations, may have thought they were bringing “poor refugees from war/terror ravaged lands” only to discover of these people that despite far more adequate benefits bestowed upon these people than in their prior lives, local democratic laws are rejected by them in favor of the extreme laws of shariah.
The governments involved appear bent upon appeasement in the case of Muslims, when it is obvious that the fact of their inability to comply in democratic cultures should have disqualified them completely from entering those democratic nations on a permanent basis. Their criminality is obvious enough if they’re admitted temporarily. This also begs the question of why aren’t Islamic countries admitting entry to such migrants? They may have been national problems initially, then due to the “We can improve anything” U.N.these migrants were created into international problems….of course, the E.U. shares in such horrific decisions,too. “We have met the enemy, and they are enabled by our own politicians and “do gooders”..
PaulM says
Too true. I never cease to be amazed at the blatant, willful stupidity of the vast majority of Canadians. What a bunch of uneducated louts.Canada is circling the drain like the rest of the western world. And no one that I know personally has ever read the koran. But every single one that I know is very quick to defend, support and condone this islamic scum. I give them vomitus quotes from the koran (hadiths), such as recommending dry humping little babies and little girls and then telling them it is ok to repeatedly rape them once they are 8 or 9 just a muhammud did. Then the commands to maim, torture and kill out of hand literally every single human being who does not agree with whatever excrement comes out of their mouths. And to treat woman like pieces of shit stuck to their boots. Their response? “Wow you have a very vivid imagination, you must be misinterpreting their religion, they are peace loving people, except for a few nut jobs.” I give up!!!!
notmoron says
Canada just gave away 31 millions dollars to 3 terrorists. If you are a Muslim and terrorist; Canadian government will give you millions
Rich Cole says
He is a Jihadi, make no mistake about it. He will do this again and again until he kills someone or someone kills him so he can enter Allah’s heaven as a martyr..
DRHazard says
“My sense was that he was still unwell.”
Looking more deeply into this case I found out how far the brain rot has gone. Even the psychiatrist assigned to the case is in complete denial about the fact that some people will kill if their religion says it’s a good thing to do. She molded her observations, opinions and testimony around HER OWN personal belief that no one (or at least no Muslim) will actually commit murder in the name of religion (especially Islam). In fact what Dr. Jeanette Smith exposed, without even realizing it, is that believing in Islam turns people into psychotic murderers.
From the Vancouver Sun, article by Keith Fraser, October 19, 2007:
“Dr. Jeanette Smith, a forensic psychiatrist, testified about her first meeting with Almestadi about a week after the attack.
She said her first impressions were that he was oddly upbeat considering his circumstances and was “troubled” by his indifference to his predicament.
Smith said that the process of getting clear answers from him was frustrating and that he appeared to be struggling to understand what he’d done, believing that it might have been a malevolent spirit masquerading as God that had told him to kill.
The psychiatrist said that it was her opinion that Almestadi had some psychotic symptoms at the time of the attack.
“My sense was that he was still unwell.”
gravenimage says
In other words, he reveled in waging Jihad, and still does…
LeftisruiningCanada says
” believing that it might have been a malevolent spirit masquerading as God that had told him to kill.”
You know, that sounds familiar…..something to do with a cave……
I wonder about leftists says
Governments were always like that, those people are only looking for money and power. A few good people who were always pushed out, or murdered. But it was always like that. We have always been slaves in a way, only nobody wanted to see it. We are only good to make big companies richer. We always were the sheep.
And now, people do not want to see the reality and make friends with the enemies, may be they hope that they will not beheaded or beheaded later than us.
The leftists know exactly what they have decided and done, but are to coward to admit it , in the whole western world, all over. But Islam will destroy itself, but before we have to stay strong and keep on going and unite and sue all those criminals. We have to stay writing and tell it like it really is, and the best way is to remove all muslims, too bad for the good ones, but one does not know who is good and who not, but a muslim will always stay a muslim in their horrible religion.
It makes you so sick, it does me and very angry, but I don’t think I could kill somebody and get away with it and my religion tells me not to kill. And I will always abide by that, but I wonder what will happen and when…..
gravenimage says
The idea that Western governments have always been whitewashing Islam and appeasing Jihadists is mistaken–this is, in fact, quite recent.
762x51FMJ says
Democrats and Islam share the fact that they are ancient trees that can only fall.
Democrats wish to replace their own past, Islam wishes to erase everyone else’s.
Phobos9000 says
Looks like I found another disgusting nest of fascists. I know where you will all be when push comes to shove.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You couldn’t be more wrong. If you stick around for a while, you’ll see that genuinely fascistic remarks are usually met with disdain, and that the opinions of most are merely the conservative expressions of concern over a legitimate and obvious threat to our common values and way of life.
If you have misunderstood things here as being ‘racist’ or perhaps in favor of highly authoritarian measures against peaceful citizens, then it is unlikely that much would dissuade you from seeing us as fascists.
The fact is that the regular commenters on Jihad Watch are decidedly not fascists. They are against fascism, in this case, the fascism of islam.
Even if you are not able and willing to make this distinction right now, please do continue to read and comment here. Your interactions will be valued, not least by myself.
Lydia says
That now makes THEM criminally responsible as well for the murder by letting him off that way!
gravenimage says
Canada: Muslim who slit woman’s throat and said Allah commanded him to kill her found “not criminally responsible”
He said he’d been overwhelmed with school work and hadn’t slept the night before.
……………………
How many here who ever attended college found themselves overwhelmed with school work and facing a day without having slept the night before at one time or another? Conservatively, probably over 95% of students have found themselves in this situation at least once.
I know I did, and more than once.
Now–how many of those responded to this stressful situation by *slitting at classmate’s throat*?
How many–instead–just had a vente coffee or two or a couple of danish to get through the day?
skeptic says
Raheel Raza speaks about the madness going on in Canada: https://youtu.be/UrXGJF7t5BU
gravenimage says
She calls herself an “anti-racism activist”, and claims that Jihad is not real Islam. An equivocal figure, at best.
vlparker says
The left is utterly depraved. They are disgusting human beings who are constantly enabling evil.
More on leftist tyranny: A Chicago woman is going to jail for calling a black man the N word. For doing this she was convicted of battery. You really have to do judicial contortions to twist the law so that using a derogatory word is now considered battery. I wonder if Jay Z will also be jailed for using the N word. I am dating a black woman and have no use for the N word, but this is ridiculous
gravenimage says
Agreed. Using the N-word is disgusting, but obviously should not result in jail time. This is nuts.
MFritz says
Religious fanatics are not insane they are first and foremost fanatics.
ronald says
thats just a lie to get away with attempted murder and will succeed the next time god tells him to kill. he told the judge why he did it he told the truth he didn’t lie his not crazy. if he did believe in the voice then we should believe it too and arrest him
Infidel says
How apt it would have been if the victim Mary could have overpowered this piece of garbage and killed him in self defence… Expect this piece of garbage to walk free in a couple of years… thanks to Trudeau and his libtard cronies along with their Jehaadi friends.. Jeez! How they are betraying their own!!!
Politicianphobia says
Just another maniac Muslim, remember sportsfans all is fair in love and war. Arm yourself, bear spray keeps more than bears away.
Brenda Romano says
Islam thy name is barbarism. British courts thy name is injustice/stupidity..
If he had a “brief psychotic episode,” what’s to prevent him from additional “brief psychotic episodes” and commit mass murder next time?
I don’t know much about British so- called justice but I would sue this monster for trauma, medical bills, physical scarring, harassment, time lost at school, legal fees, etc……
I would see if the US Embassy could bring pressure upon the Brits to deport this maniacal lunatic and revoke his visa.
IF ALL ELSE FAILS TAKE A PAGE OUT OF ISLAM “AN EYE FOR AN EYE AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.” (Then claim she had a “brief psychotic episode.”)
Mike Proulx says
He should be locked up and the reprobate judge along with him.
Up North says
I am Canadian. The problem is our Prime Minister is a muslim loving idiot. In my opinion he would do just about anything to gain a vote. It is suspected he is actually one of them. The next election in 2019 will hopefully see the end of him as PM and a government committed to preserving the rights of our western society elected.
UNCLE VLADDI says
The complicit “Judge” in question (whose name is avoided by the presstitutes) is B.C. Supreme Court Justice Margot Fleming.
Politicianphobia says
there are Hemlock trees in British Columbia.
Edward Dillon says
AHH, “The DEVIL made me do it”