This will only have the effect in the West of making the Palestinian Authority look more “moderate” by contrast, but in reality, the Palestinian Authority has never recognized Israel either, contrary to repeated claims, and shares Hamas’ goal of destroying it utterly, which would result in a new genocide of the Jews.
“Hamas chief: We won’t discuss recognizing Israel, only wiping it out,” by Dov Lieber, Times of Israel, October 19, 2017:
The Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip on Thursday dismissed US and Israeli demands that it lay down its arms and recognize the Jewish state, saying the terror organization is instead debating “when to wipe out Israel.”
The remarks came during a closed roundtable discussion between Yahya Sinwar and Gazan youth about the ongoing reconciliation negotiations with rival Palestinian faction Fatah, to which some media outlets were invited to attend.
“Over is the time Hamas spent discussing recognizing Israel. Now Hamas will discuss when we will wipe out Israel,” Sinwar said, according to the Hamas-linked news agency Shehab.
A Hamas spokesperson released a few official quotes from the meeting. The Sinwar comment about discussing “when we will wipe out Israel” was not included in the transcript, which featured the Hamas leader again rejecting disarmament and Israel recognition.
“No one in the universe can disarm us. On the contrary, we will continue to have the power to protect our citizens,” Sinwar said, according to the official statement. “No one has the ability to extract from us recognition of the occupation.”…
On Thursday, Sinwar doubled down on Hamas’s stance that it will not relinquish its armed forces.
“Disarming us is like Satan dreaming of heaven. No one can take away our weapons,” he said.
He also reportedly admitted that the talks could collapse. “There is a danger to the reconciliation project,” Sinwar was quoted as saying, though he did not elaborate.
Last week, the two rival Palestinian factions signed an agreement in Cairo to allow the PA to take full control of the Gaza, which it was kicked out of 10 years ago by Hamas in a violent conflict….
underbed cat says
Got that Harvard? These are words you won’t hear from the MSA when speaking openly , but the Quran is the guide for destroying Israel and any non believers such as Christians, atheists…as they say that is their form of tolerance, justice and peace….acting like a sheep but teeth like a wolf.
Angus says
With these straight-forward and well known goals – why would ANY non-Islamic nation allow a single muslim in their country let alone millions of them?
underbed cat says
Best thing is disarm the acceptance.
Johnny Cuyana says
My apologies but I do have my biases: looking at this man’s picture — whether it is fair or otherwise — my impression is that this guy would fit in — very comfortably — as a self-serving warlord tyrant or some scum mafia hoodlum; neither types of which have even the slightest interest in the rights of others nor of the rule of law. I don’t know much of the rest of the story, but, at least, he has a face becoming of a PA “chief” [read: monster].
Voytek Gagalka says
Here, right from the mouth of such a “leader,” is the clear answer that there NEVER EVER be any peace between “palestinians” (Arabs) and Israel, no matter what (completely futile) effort will be made in that direction. Are you listening, Mr. Trump? Do you GRASP essence and consequences of that and be able to act appropriately?
Wellington says
Ideally, it is Hamas that should be wiped out. Better for Israel. Better for the West in general. Better for freedom’s survival. Better all around.
apexpoint says
Talk is cheap but when they start attacking Israel, they will be beaten into a pulp. The moon god could not care less.
Michael says
The Government of Israel should start by impounding the ballot papers used in Palestinian elections. Then, identify who voted for Hamas by cross-checking the numbers of the ballot papers against the names on the electoral register. Then give them 24 hours to find another country to live in, or get the same treatment as God commanded the Israelites to give to the Amalekites.
Guest says
Really? Does it come as a surprise to anyone?
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Over is the time Hamas spent discussing recognizing Israel. Now Hamas will discuss when we will wipe out Israel,” Sinwar said, according to the Hamas-linked news agency Shehab.”
“When”? Incredible arrogance right there from Yoda Sinwar, who probably doesn’t sleep in the same house for more than a night or two in a row. Large scale war is nothing we want to see, but come on, realistically, if Israel wanted to be rid of this guy and his jihadi rat infested Gaza strip, there’s nothing would stop them.
“Discuss” is all they’ll do towards wiping Israel out. That and send out some more brainwashed young boys and girls with cheap explosives strapped to their chests.
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic agenda of Hamas of “wiping Israel out” is no more than a Muslim delusion and extreme actions of violent futility. This is because God is on the side of the State of Israel rather the jihadists of Hamas like in or not.
Furthermore,it should be made known that the Muslim terror organizations,Hamas Hezbollah, P.I.J. etc. are all fated to fail in their Islamic agenda of destroying the State of Israel and replacing with Islamic “state.” The reason that they will lose in the end and lose hard is because the members of those jihad terror entities are striving against the Will of God. The members who compose those Islamic terror groups might be too ignorant to know this, nevertheless the truth is the God had given all this land that now composes the State of Israel, including all of the West Bank, to the Jewish people. This may be found in the Bible, as seen in, for example, Genesis 28:13-15. 35:10-12. Deuteronomy 32:48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. 135:4. In other words the Jews have tall this land by Divine Right. Furthermore, the Jewish people should have this land by historic rights as shown in First Kings 4:20,21, 24,25. 8:55, 56. Still, in all fairness, there is one way for the Muslim members who make up Hezbollah, Hamas and the P.I.J. to convince God to change His Mind about being so much for Israel and then cause Him to turn His back on Israel and then have that nation be no more. That way is for the members of the jihad origination to gather together and then change the laws of astrophysics, including those laws of astrophysics the control the sun, the moon and the stars. For God had declared in His Word, the Bible, in Jeremiah 31:35,36. “Thus saith the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day and the ordinances of the moon and stars for a light by night…The Lord of host is His name. If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me forever.”
LeftisruiningCanada says
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mortimer says
Genocide is in the DNA of Islam. Religiously-motivated bigotry and genocide are enshrined in the Koran and hadiths and are in no way accidental or aberrations.
K.9.29 “Fight those who BELIEVE NOT in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] — until they pay the EXTORTION TAX out of hand and have been humbled.”
Islam is a SHAKE DOWN racket.
mortimer says
One look at Yahya Sinwar and one would say he has Jewish ancestry. According to some Israeli experts, 85% of Palestinian Arabs are descended from indigenous Jewish who were forced by an edict in the year 1012 by Caliph el-Hakim to either convert or leave the Holy Land. It is a tragedy that people of such similar genetic heritage will not accept one another on the basis of religion alone. It should be perfectly clear that the inability to compromise is coming from the Islamic side.
Keith says
Over to you Jeremy Corbyn, these people are your friends maybe you should have a word with them. There again maybe you believe that what they want to do is what should be done after all you failed to sack Naz Shah for liking and retweeting a tweet saying the the abused girls (in the UK) should shut up and keep quiet for the sake of multiculturalism.
Ketziah says
Israelis have just as much right to live in safety and peace as everyone else….the mantra to ‘wipe out’ Israel is cruel, sick, and totally inhuman.
Granted, Palestinians were forced from their home in the 1940s, and that was wrong too.
But in conflicts, people think too much about who” was there first” or who wasn’t, and really if you go back into history, you can’t put back the people who were there first (in any country) without disrupting everyone there now.
So what needs to happen now is for people to look to the future. The Palestinians suffered an injustice, but man y of them ruin their own lives by supporting suicide bombings and the idea of “wiping out” all the Israelis. They’re not helping their cause, they’re not doing any good for their children.
Palestinians need to stop the attacks and pro-genocide recruitment. If there is no more terrorism, Israelis will be willing to listen to the stuff they went through. If the future is to be made any better, terrorism must end. Once it does, Palestinians and Israelis could coexist peacefully.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Palestinians were forced from their home in the 1940s, and that was wrong too…”
There was less of that than is often thrown around by the PLO etc…..many left because surrounding arab nations told them to get out of the way while they destroyed Israel, promising that afterwards they could go back. That didnt work out. Same in ’67.
If the arabs wanted the Land so much, why did they sell most of it off to Zionists?
Frank Anderson says
Ketziah, I think it would be a real good idea to see who “forced” who to leave. Amin Al Huseinni aka Grand Mufti aka Hitler’s pal, aka Yasser Arafat’s uncle (?), called on the “Palestinians” to leave. There are many non-Jewish Palestinians living in Israel with rights and liberties they would not know anywhere in muslim countries. A number among them serve in Parliament and the military.
I do not think “we” can persuade dedicated suicidal killers to do what they “need” to do. For generations all they have been taught every day, 5 times or more every day, is to hate Jews (and Christians) and to kill. There is no “teaching” someone who has no room in a mind to learn. If you look at the readiness among the “Palestinians” to kill any who might depart from the standard goal of killing Israel and all Jews, you might begin to see the delusion in your suggestion.
If you live in a community which welcomes and sponsors a young Israeli solder who has completed the required military service, it could be an informative and inspiring experience to hear the presentations that are made during a year of sharing Israel’s best. Contact any Jewish congregation and find out where the guest is speaking. It’s surprising to see how much a teenager grows up after being shot at.
gravenimage says
Hamas top dog: We won’t discuss recognizing Israel, only wiping it out
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And Israel is expected to negotiate with these Muslim thugs.
The worst thing is that Fatah–the “Palestinian Authority”–is no different in its goals.
Frank Anderson says
It is a basic requirement of any negotiation that both sides must share a goal of mutual success. If the negotiation starts with the goal that one side must commit suicide for the other to succeed, then there is nothing to talk about. Each time ignorant fools force Israel to negotiate time and resources are being wasted while those who seek the end of Israel and all Jews everywhere become stronger, better armed, and better positioned with more people to accomplish the evil goal. “If the muslims would put down their weapons there would be peace. If Israel put down its weapons there would also be peace; after every Jew was exterminated.” The only way to describe the constant “we can negotiate this” in the face of 1400 years of unbroken commitment to exterminate Jews is utter delusion and ignorance of the evil of islam. See any of several books on negotiation such as Getting to Yes, or You can Negotiate Anything.
Henner720 says
if your moviepicture ever need to cast a gangsta type.? credible .
FYI says
But….Israel is the Holy Land.
It is the land of the prophets.
It exists by permission of God and given as a promise to the Jews.
Yet,many muslims{Iranians,palestinians..} under their anti-Semitic god allah want to destroy something that actually belongs to ….God.
“At that time I will restore the prosperity of Judah
and Jerusalem.
I will gather all the nations and bring them to
the valley of Judgement.
There I will judge them
for all they have done to my people.
They have scattered the Israelites in foreign countries..”
Joel 3 v 1-2
I’m not sure if muslims realize the folly of attempting to “wipe out Israel” because in fact they are declaring war on the..GOD OF ISRAEL.
Israel belongs not just to the Israelis and the Jews but it is important to God.
And the muslims want to annihilate it in their stupidity!
God’s (true) biblical prophecies given to the Jews are very clear about the outcome.
It is a terrible thing to be an enemy of God,the God of Israel..
Zechariah chpts 12,13,14
Note that it is God{-God Himself,not the Israelis or any earthly force- }who will do the “wiping out” of the enemies of Israel.
All Biblical prophecies will be fulfilled:the establishment of Israel as a nation is a significant reminder that God ALWAYS keep His prophetic promises.
Daniel,Ezekiel etc…You cannot say that God has failed to give advance warnings!!
But he also gives the outcome..and that it will be a catastrophe for the enemies of the God of Israel..
If you are Jewish or live in Israel you should pray confidently to God for protection.
Carolyne says
What many in the West fail to understand is that Muslims have faith in and believe their Koran just as much as Christians believe the bible. So quoting the bible and the nonsense about how God loves the Jewish people is meaningless. Why in the world would a god love one group of people more than another group? If there were actually Gods, the Muslim God is different from the Christian God. I don’t believe that sort of thing about an old man with a beard up in the sky somewhere nor do I believe Mohammed was anything more than a pedophile warlord.
Get over it. God doesn’t exist. Allah doesn’t exist. Heaven doesn’t exist nor does the Muslim paradise with all the virgins running around. This is the 21st century. Time to stop believing myths are real.
LeftisruiningCanada says
What many in the West fail to understand is that Muslims have faith in and believe their Koran just as much as Christians believe the bible.
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That has never been a problem so far as i can see – everyone knows how seriously they take their qoran etc. That they are willing to kill themselves and others to carry out the demands found in the qoran is what we are hear discussing.
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So quoting the bible and the nonsense about how God loves the Jewish people is meaningless. Why in the world would a god love one group of people more than another group?
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That’s His business of course, but for Christians, the real question is why would He love any of us at all. Therein is the wonder of Calvary.
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If there were actually Gods, the Muslim God is different from the Christian God.
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There are many so called gods and so called lords, yet only one Creator. The muslim god allah is certainly one of these so called gods, and he is certainly not the same as the God of the Bible, agreed.
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I don’t believe that sort of thing about an old man with a beard up in the sky somewhere nor do I believe Mohammed was anything more than a pedophile warlord.
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Nobody really believes in the ‘old man in the sky’ thing, all such imagery being just a representation used for certain artistic purposes. I can agree with the substance of the second sentence.
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Get over it. God doesn’t exist. Allah doesn’t exist. Heaven doesn’t exist nor does the Muslim paradise with all the virgins running around. This is the 21st century. Time to stop believing myths are real.
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It’s ok that you are a convinced atheist, though i personally hold the greater myth to be the one offered by that belief system: nobody around here will be offended, angered or threaten to behead you. That would not be the case if islam was the ruling philosophy of our nations. Let us work towards ensuring that doesn’t happen, despite our different points of reference.
Carolyne says
This one definitely has hairy shoulders.
Val says
We won’t discuss recognizing Islam, only wiping it out.
Del says
This is the very same Hamas that got millions gifted from Trudeau, laundered through the UN pretending it was for schools and hospitals. Fkn Liberal Trudeau lie.