This doesn’t establish a motive or help clarify whether or not this was a jihad attack, but it does — unless it was a ghastly coincidence — explode the law enforcement claim that Paddock was a “lone wolf.”
“Las Vegas shooting: Woman told crowd ‘you’re all going to f***ing die’ before attack started,” by Adam Lusher, Independent, October 2, 2017:
Concert goers were told “You’re all going to f***ing die” less than an hour before the Las Vegas shooting started, it has been claimed.
A woman in the crowd is said to have yelled the warning about 45 minutes before the Route 91 Harvest festival became the venue for the worst mass shooting in US history.
After her outburst, it was claimed, the woman and her male companion were made to leave the venue by security.
Less than an hour later, an attack began that left at least 50 people dead.
Witness Brianna Hendricks, said the woman had been behaving strangely before her outburst.
Ms Hendricks, who had been in Vegas to celebrate her 21st birthday, told Mail Online: “There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people’s hair, acting crazy, and she told us that we’re all going to f***ing die.
“She said they’re all around us and we were going to die.”
Ms Hendricks said the woman had claimed her boyfriend could not breathe in order to push her way through the crowd to the front row.
She said: “It seemed she was telling us to either warn us, or she was part of it and she was telling us because she knew we were going to die. It was so scary.
“It felt like she had knowledge of what was about to happen.”…
D Austin says
Sounds like a hotel maid might have saw something going down! There’s a video posted that shows muzzle flashes synced to the sound of machine gun fire coming from the 4th floor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywc58Bxxc8
Dov Berrol says
Fourth floor? I thought the shots were coming from higher up? Maybe the flashes from the fourth floor are from a camera? Were there windows broken on the 4th floor?
Hotels are now definitely going to have to x-ray and check all luggage being checked into their establishments. The world has gone bonkers.
Overman says
Yeah, ‘Hispanic’ – we’ll see.
There all in denial about the ISIL claims. Sky News, BBC, CNN never mentioned it yesterday . Only RT, Euronews and france24 had it scrolling across their headlines.
vyx says
If a Muslim woman speaks with a Hispanic accent in an area with many Hispanics, would people identify her as Muslim? I’m guessing no.
Debi Brand says
No doubt about it.
My Daddy is Latino, I grew up with Latinos. And I have myself , thought someone was, seemed, likely, Latino, slight difference, but not persuasive, at first.
They even spoke Spanish when I spoke to them in Spanish, but I, because I am familiar with the common ring to the language, detected a difference in it. Upon further inquiry found the one I thought was latino, and all-but-masted Spanish, was in fact Palestinian.
Another time, a Saudi.
Debi Brand says
Dang–“all-but-masted”–make that all-but-mastered.
Mak says
Could it be the “girlfriend?” She’s apparently Indonesian. Indonesian skin complexion can be similar to that of some Hispanics. Very convenient for the left in avoiding any association with islam.
I think we all know what’s going to happen here. The media is going to say, simultaneously: “We don’t know the motive” and “The motive is not terrorism” … which are mutually exclusive. Nothing will be released for a week or so until this story is now on the back burner. When the actual ties to Islam come out it will be off peoples’ radar and end up as a small footnote somewhere.
That’s how this goes folks! It’s a vicious cycle of muslims committing jihad and the MSM ensuring their protection.
overman says
” “We don’t know the motive” and “The motive is not terrorism” … ”
Lost count of how many times l’ve heard these two phrases on the news today.
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
Mak, the girlfriend is Filipina, not Indonesian. She was also visiting family in the Philippines at the time of the shooting rampage.
She may have known–or have known something–about the plot. I don’t see how she could have been in Vegas when she was over 7,000 miles away, though. I don’t think this “Hispanic” woman could have been her.
rabrooks says
But there is one thing that makes my head hurt ;
“the FBI claims that there were several jammed “B-fire” equiped rifles abandoned in the room. They often fail…..
My only question is, “If this guy was soooo rich, Why didn’t he just go out and purchase full-auto anything on the earth, that’s fully functional and checked-out? What he took up was a bunch of junk. I’m just saying. It don’t wash. I smell a “patsy”…….
All the money in the world, why not buy a brand new m60, saw, FN, a ma-duce or two??????
Johnny Cuyana says
On the face of it, IMO, this on-camera interview is wanting … significantly:
[a] How was this “hispanic” couple delivering their message: quietly [one-on-one] or were they shouting it to anyone who could hear?
[b] Were they both “messaging” or only the lady?
[c] For what period of time, before their eviction, were they delivering this message?
[d] And, how long before the actual shooting event, that is, before their moment of eviction, were they engaged in this messaging?
[e] Other than “you are all going to die”, what if anything else were they saying?
[f] How many concert attendees heard their message?
[g] Did anyone engage them in “discussion” or were they largely ignored?
[h] When their security “escort” arrived to evict them, did they go quietly or otherwise?
[i] Are you sure they were/are “hispanic”? Could they have been Middle Eastern?
[j] etc …
Yep, hindsight is interesting perspective … not to be abused by reasonable people.
gravenimage says
So you want to ignore this entirely because the witnesses were not up to your standards? Often in reporting a story you take what you can get.
Ned Kelly says
most of your questions can be answered by reading the article, as I did.
Overman says
“There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people’s hair, acting crazy, and she told us that we’re all going to f***ing die.”
If this is how she acted, then it doesn’t appear to be a warning – more a taunt, like she was enjoying the moment..
mortimer says
I’m sure the police have looked for a picture of the woman on security cameras. If so, they will already have interviewed the woman.
D Austin says
Perhaps ISIS is claiming credit if it supplied the weapons from it’s training camp inside Mexico, eight miles from El Paso.
Military Experts: With ISIS in El Paso, Ft. Bliss in Danger of Terrorist Attack
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/09/military-experts-isis-el-paso-ft-bliss-danger-terrorist-attack/
D Austin says
Here’s a second video taken by a taxi driver showing the muzzle flash coming from about the 4th floor as she drives past the Mandaly.Bay Go to 4:55…
Mandalay Bay Las Vegas Massacre Taxi Driver Viewpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O_3RQlKJb0&feature=youtu.be
No way in hell this was a “lone gunman”!
Ekondig says
Yes, not only the flashes seeming to come from lower down, but also note the sound: The first gunfire burst is quite loud and seems to be followed by its echo. But then the second burst coming in at 45 sec is clearly at a very different volume, and not an echo. The taxi driver even says that it sounds further away. That would indicate at least 2 different locations for the gunfire.
Ekondig says
Interestingly, I haven’t been able to locate any video so far on YouTube, of footage showing muzzle flashes coming from around the 32nd floor. Has anyone else found such a video?
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
This murderous rampage was a carefully planned terror attack… either Islamic of Antifa. ISIS claimed that Stephen Paddock converted to Islam a few months prior to the attack and even received a Muslim name. It really looks like others knew about it… ahead of time.
overman says
Yeah, and the FBI are still saying he had no connection to any international terror group.
l’m looking forward to seeing the egg on their faces.
ln fact, we get more Taqiyya from the mouths of liberal law-enforcement than from muslims.
gravenimage says
I am *no* fan of Antifa, and they have certainly been violent at demonstrations. But they have never plotted to mass murder people.
Islam certainly has, though.
Guest says
By Hispanic, did they mean a tanned skin woman? The Hispanic people are not the only one with tan skin
gravenimage says
The witness’s guess was Hispanic. She did not test her DNA.
x says
Actually, I do not think ISIS was involved. They are just trying to cash in.
This was a left wing nut job killing Trump supporters.
This was bound to happen…..with the media constantly demonizing republicans…and now antifa saying that fascists should be killed……..but since all republicans are fascist…..ergo……this.
The media is complicit. They might be speaking figuratively when they demonize republicans, but there are people out there that buy in to this and truly hate republics in an extreme and irrational manner. The media reinforces this insanity with there endless Trump and republican bashing.
Ashley says
If true, this is a fascinating account.
I would think this account could be easily verified or dismissed. If this woman’s behavior prompted security to remove her from the venue there should be some brief report of her expulsion. If she was deemed impaired, unruly, and/or plain whacked why wasn’t she placed in protective custody? We know police patrolled the concert. If she ranted this to a “crowd” I would think more voices would validate Ms. Hendricks’ account.
Smartphone cameras and surveillance cameras abound these days. Security keeps a watchful eye on those acting in a peculiar fashion, especially when Las Vegas was recently mentioned as a ripe target for an attack.
Strange story, indeed. I believe it is deserving to be fully investigated.
Jack Diamond says
Yes, there should be a number of other witnesses to this. They need to come forward.
Another interesting tidbit:
“Police Say Possible Hoax Calls Were Being Made to Report Shots Fired at Other Locations…multiple calls were being made reporting shots fired at several other locations in the hour after the initial calls, but people there, including police officers, were not hearing the shots. Officers believe the calls were possibly being made as a diversion.”
—-http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-boulevard-active-shooter-shooting-victims-attack/
What is noteworthy is police using the word “diversion”. Not mistakes, but possibly a deliberate attempt to divert police from the real shooter.
Who was doing that?
Then there is the whole matter of the relative sophistication of this ambush performed by a man with no police or military background. It’s possible he taught it all to himself. It’s possible he did not.
gravenimage says
First I had heard of diversion calls, Jack. This might, of course, have been due to confusion, and not malice.
But some Jihad terror groups have suggested either calling in diversion calls or setting up small incidents to divert police attention away from the Jihad terror attack.
Joe says
Two windows totally apart from each other. This was a false flag. At least 2 shooters. Plus probably more terrorists for support. With Hillary still at large and the trust I have into the government I would not even believe the supposed shooter had anything to do with it.
Mary says
I saw a news article from the UK showing a diagram of the Suite occupied by the shooter. It did encompass the areas where the two windows were broken. So it appears that the shooter had those 2 windows available to him within that one suite.
gravenimage says
True, Mary.
gravenimage says
Las Vegas: “Hispanic” woman told crowd “You’re all going to die” before attack started
………………….
Random unrelated craziness? A warning? Gloating over impending Jihad bloodshed? Who knows?
I hope authorities locate her, whatever the situation.
A Lee says
The Cascade Mall shooter, Arcan Cetin, was described by police and as “Hispanic” when in fact he was a Turkish Muslim immigrant.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/washington-state-turkish-muslim-arcan-cetin-arrested-for-murder-of-five-people-inside-cascade-mall
I just now found out that the Cetin was conveniently found dead in his cell in April.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/17/arcan-cetin-suspect-charged-in-washington-mall-sho/
Obviously, I haven’t followed this story closely. There are so many terrorist attacks these days, it’s hard to keep up with them all.
Jack Diamond says
Conveniently? He tried to commit suicide in 2015 with pills. The jail may have been negligent in letting him hang himself, but no one is gonna miss him. But you are correct, he was misidentified as “Hispanic”, by the police!
A Lee says
I won’t miss him, but it might have been helpful to find out who helped him become “radicalized.” Maybe it was online or in Turkey, but if it was someone local, there will eventually be another attack in Washington State. He was certainly a nasty individual.
Maybe the police made an honest mistake regarding his race, but it seems like The Powers That Be often throw other ethnic groups under the bus if Islam is involved.
Jack Diamond says
No Muslims have to be radicalized. They just need to start practicing Islam faithfully.
Of course there will be other attacks in Washington. Like the Jewish Federation attack in Seattle. Like the plot to commit mass murder at the Marine induction center. They don’t need to have known Arcan Cetin either, they know Muhammad.
Alec Rawls says
Maybe it was a maid from the hotel who was afraid to go to police because she is illegal? But surely the event security would have questioned her on why she was saying everyone was going to die, right? Right??
gravenimage says
Probably not. I have friends who have worked security. If someone is being disruptive, they are usually just escorted out of the event.
And the idea that someone would be too terrified of the police to report a planned terrorist shooting is just bizarre.
D Austin says
Not so bizarre with Trump rounding up illegals, and the “they are everywhere” she mentioned looking like they just got off a plane from a military mission in Afghanistan.
On the other hand, ISIS was reported by Judicial Watch to have a training camp in Mexico eight miles from El Paso and has joined up with AntiFa and MS-13. She could have picked up chatter about something going down, but not know specifics. Just celebrating the 100th (1917 – 2017) anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution, also known as Red October.
gravenimage says
Most police departments deliberately do not look into the immigration status of those reporting crimes–specifically so that no one will be afraid to report crimes.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Someone said, that someone said.
Let this b.s. go, and move on.
Guy Forester says
Interesting how there does not seem to be any follow up on this. Are there any security cameras or other camera shots from the concert that show this woman? The lady reporting this says the woman telling them they were going to die pushed her way up towards the front. Did others see and report this as well? How about the security people that removed the two? Any reports from them?
I realize that with thousands of participants, all could be considered witnesses. Hundreds of injured. This is a ;monumental task to ID and interview key witnesses. I would think these reports would be right up on top with the hotel staff and security.
Politicianaphobia says
Elsharkaway, the sweet Muslim Brotherhood, hood recently said vengence for the blood and dignity is a debt and a pledge that we will not abandon, the time for punishment is coming, and your fortresses and castles will not stop us, you will see what you were warned against from us, we will come out for you from every lane, every street and every square, and we will destroy your fortresses from above and below. You will find the revolutionaries where you never expected. Allah is the Greatest. One might, just might get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood in the US, Canada and Europe for a start. Ban Muslims from running for office since they have no problem saying they can NOT follow our laws. I listen to what the Muslim Brotherhood is saying and I believe them. Too bad politicians never listen, they are all so damn smart or perhaps evil. I did read many years ago about being born with an evil gene, but that was supposedly a minuscule percent of the population. I do not believe the study included the Middle East.