Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman has vowed to restore “moderate” Islam that is open to all religions in the world.
In his own words:
“We are returning to what we were before – a country of moderate Islam that is open to all religions and to the world…….We will end extremism very soon.”
Does this mean that Saudi Arabia will issue an open declaration, decree or fatwa that there are to be no more death penalties for atheism and apostasy in the kingdom?
The reason for this deceptive manipulation is to shore up “respect” for the Saudi regime in the West, and to expand Saudi Arabia’s regional hegemony as the kingdom maneuvers against its primary foe, Iran. The Crown Prince said that the primary objective of the “Iranian regime is to reach the focal point of Muslims [Mecca] and we will not wait until the fight is inside Saudi Arabia and we will work so that the battle is on their side, inside Iran, not in Saudi Arabia.”
Saudi Arabia has been “America’s closest Arab ally in the Middle East,” and has received “massive U.S. military aid and has long influenced American foreign policy….An added bonus for the Saudis has been America’s estrangement from Iran since the 1979 revolution.”
To further demonstrate the absurdity of the Crown Prince’s intellectually insulting declaration that Saudi Arabia is a “moderate” state, consider that Saudi Arabian officials recently arrested 27 Christians — among them several women and children — for the crime of “conducting Christian prayers” and being “in possession of Bibles.”
Another sobering piece of information: more citizens of Saudi Arabia have joined the Islamic State than from any other country. Saudi Arabia has been at the forefront of global jihad initiatives, further belying its smooth public relations campaign and attempt to appear “moderate” in the Western media. For more information about what Saudi Arabia has really been up to, click here.
“Saudi Arabia will ‘return to moderate, open Islam’ – Crown Prince,” RT News, October 24, 2017:
Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman has vowed to restore “moderate” Islam that is open to all religions in the world. Saudi Arabia is known for its ultraconservative rule.
“We are returning to what we were before – a country of moderate Islam that is open to all religions and to the world,” he said at an economic forum in Riyadh, as quoted by AFP. “We will not spend the next 30 years of our lives dealing with destructive ideas. We will destroy them today,” he added. “We will end extremism very soon.”
Riyadh is known for its adherence to ultra-conservative norms of Islam and strict segregation of men and women. It has long been the only state where women are officially forbidden to drive.
Earlier this year, the crown prince accused Tehran of promoting an “extremist ideology” and having ambitions to “control the Islamic world.” Asked if there is any room for dialogue with Iran, the 31-year-old prince replied: “How can I come to an understanding with someone, or a regime, that has an anchoring belief built on an extremist ideology?”
He said that the primary objective of the “Iranian regime is to reach the focal point of Muslims [Mecca] and we will not wait until the fight is inside Saudi Arabia and we will work so that the battle is on their side, inside Iran, not in Saudi Arabia.”
The Saudi government enforces a strict, conservative version of Sunni Islam. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is ruled by a Sunni monarchy known as the House of Saud, while the Islamic Republic of Iran is overwhelmingly Shia. The divisions between the Sunnis and the Shia are based on a long-running religious conflict that started as a dispute over the Prophet Mohammed’s successor. While Shia Muslims believe the prophet’s cousin should have filled the role, Sunnis support the selection of Muhammad’s close friend and adviser, Abu Bakr, as the first caliph of the Islamic nation…..
Pet Charles says
The reason is Saudi Arabia is quietly dealing with two potential crises. First, more countries are discovering oil and the price of oil is harder to control by OPEC as the cartel gets larger. As a result, Saudi Arabia decided to sell about 5% of their oil interest to raise international capital. That was preceded last year or year before by the appointment of a female head of the Saudi stock market, and appointment of another female in a visible position. Now the women are allowed to drive with restriction followed. If they had not made these changes there would have been too much pressure from the potential stock holders from the West who are thee ones with the cash to buy the stake. Second, there is a lot of internal discontent about the house of Saud and many Saudis want a more secular state. There is a lot of terrorist attacks inside the Kingdom that is not widely reported in the West. In an nutshell, the Saudis are being forced by external economic pressure to make changes.
johan elzinga says
At least he tries. Kudos for him when anything changes for the better.! I have little hope, but let us wait and see. He is only in power a few months now.
Santa Voorhees says
Yes, indeed. Islam definitely needs it, otherwise it will never get along with other faiths and can never be part of a multicultural society the Left keeps bragging about.
I have little hope as well, but let’s see how it turns out.
Richard says
This is a case where Saudi Arabia is between the devil and the deep blue sea. If they do not liberalize, they MAY offend the liberal West. If they do liberalize, the will offend the entire Muslim world, including their own citizens, who may well revolt. Offending the west is no problem, as long as the Saudis and other Muslim nations can buy it off, Liberal Democraps totally ignore the biggest oppressor of women on the face of the earth, so the Saudis have nothing to lose here. But they lose everything If they liberalize. It takes enormous faith to fly an airplane into the side of a building. The Catholic Church started on this liberalization trail with Vatican II. The result is at least thirty million American Catholics who are gone with the wind and most of the rest look on the Church only as a social club. (I write this as a Traditional Catholic). As this web site so meticulously points out, everything the Muslims do that offend us (or should), they lay upon the “divinely inspired” teachings of Mohammed. For them to put those things aside is, in effect, to call the Quar’an and Haditha a pack of lies. So, in effect, how can the Saudis possibly liberalize?
Guest says
This is bull. Letting women drive recently? Gee! Aren’t they wonderful. And now this. This is all nothing but fluff, a big PR move and to me, signals something’s not going that great with their economy. The dawn of electric cars? We infidels starting to rely on other sources of petroleum? For all his talk the Saudis are STILL funding radical mosques in big European cities. What about that? And do our weak governments incredibly allow them to do it. These mosques are pushing their stone age wahhabi brand of islam and are breeding grounds for terrorists. It’s astounding and it’s everywhere. No one’s mentioning that bit.
Chand says
Totally agreed, Guest.
Just hogwash. No change is worthwhile, at least to the rest of the world, as long as their ‘official religion’ remains the poisonous Wahabbism which they continue to spread worldwide through their schools and charities, permanently damaged young minds with the ‘kill kafirs’ ideology. The poor Muslims of the world remain the most vulnerable victims of this propaganda as they depend on Saudi money. The Saudis have no intention of stopping this nor its propping up of its pet dog Pakistan, a facilitator of worldwide Jihad.
All this seems just a PR move to please the US in the new collective drive against Iran.
Chand says
sorry, typo: I meant “……..permanently damaging young minds…………”
gravenimage says
“Wahabbism” is nothing but orthodox Islam–it is not some fringe sect.
Carolyne says
I believe that I read that women can drive only if a man (Related) is with them and they are 30 years old or older. Also, this is to take effect several years from now.
Srichand says
Sorry Carolyn. Women are not allowed to drive even if accompanied by a man relative. But new law has been passed which will allow women to drive after June 2018.
ElderlyZionist says
I hope this signals a final abandonment of the failed Arab Spring/Muslim Brotherhood intifada, and a defunding of the Brotherhood and their terrorist mujahidin. If there is any substance to it, we should see a change in tone from the imams of Saudi funded mosques. All of these would be good things.
gravenimage says
Don’t hold your breath…
gfmucci says
“At least he tries.” No, he’s not “trying.” He’s “doing.” He is doing the Islamic doctrine of “taqiyya” to perfection. And the self-serving political dolts in the US will fall for it.
gravenimage says
I don’t think he is “trying”–I think he is *lying*.
Benedict says
“….there is open to all religions.” –
I’m sure there will be a rush to Islam now.
Joy D. Brower says
No, actually, he will now allow flights from Israel – packed with Joosh Israeli tourists – to visit “the kingdom.” Furthermore, he will even encourage them to erect a synagogue (OK, WAY out in the middle of the Arabian desert!), to encourage attendance, etc. (Yeah, that’s the ticket!) And he will also allow the Christians to settle in a very little village – again, WAY out in the middle of the Arabian desert! – and conduct midnight prayer services (i.e., in the dark). Other welcome reforms will also eventually come to the Kingdom….
apexpoint says
No way any tourist would want go to this hellhole, as the many fanatics will blow him up in pieces for the religion of “peace”.
Angus says
Well Dubai (although not in Saudi Arabia) is currently running commercials in Western countries to try and attract tourists. Maybe Saudi Arabia is next?
johan elzinga says
For what it is worth, I don’t think Saudi Arabia will let in nonmuslim tourists. At this moment, there are none, zero, it is not permitted. Only to go to Mecca is allowed for muslims from other countries, nonmuslims not allowed in. We would certainly frown at the weekly executions on the capiltal square, I think, we could take a never taken before holiday picture there. Or one of public flogging, frequently to be seen. Nice ally, this country.
Stephen says
For Crown Prince read Clown Prince
RichardL says
He means it, I think. I taught a very close relative and she could have been American in manners, dress and outlook. He is building a 500bn city in a zone where Saudi law doesn’t apply. Such an oasis already exists: a German university where women are unveiled and mingle freely with men.
David M says
I heard this on the radio too. Sounds like a huge target for pious Muslim suicide bombers to me.
carol says
Token face-saving distraction/cover for a nasty Sunni invasion of the Republic of Iran. Maybe the U.S. feels it’s necessary, who knows? But let’s remember that Persians are not Arabs despite the Khomeini takeover in 1979 and have been far more akin to us in their thoughts and feelings (though it’s claimed that many have now been successfully lobotomized due to Koranic indoctrination). Think of someone like Anni Cyrus wiped out as peripheral damage. It could happen to other countries as well. You could be next.
Islam is such a crying shame. Mankind needs to disown it and its custodians.
Chand says
Ya, Carol, I think the Iranians are better. Would love them to renounce their Shia Islam and reject their theocracy. But even their Shia Islamic Jihadism seems milder to the genocidal, mass murdering, nihilistic, grotesque and most horrifying Sunni Jihadism we are witnessing today.
Chand says
RichardL says: “He means it, I think. I taught a very close relative and she could have been American in manners, dress and outlook. He is building a 500bn city in a zone where Saudi law doesn’t apply. Such an oasis already exists: a German university where women are unveiled and mingle freely with men.”
And all the while, millions of poor children all over the Muslim world sit crammed into classrooms, learning the Koran by heart, swaying back and forth like robots, in oppressive conditions, forcibly brainwashed, all day long, day after day…………..a totally useless and ultimately dangerous curriculum, all the handiwork of Saudi money promoting their Wahaabism, making all those children into ticking time bombs of the future, with ‘kill kafirs’ forever etched into their vulnerable brains, all in the name of ‘Islamic Schooling’ and ‘Islamic Charity’.
Most of these rich, ‘royal’ and seemingly ‘educated’ Saudis are rotten to the core. All this talk is just lip service and won’t do at all.
Robert Spencer is right.
“The reason for this deceptive manipulation is to shore up “respect” for the Saudi regime in the West, and to expand Saudi Arabia’s regional hegemony as the kingdom maneuvers against its primary foe, Iran. The Crown Prince said that the primary objective of the “Iranian regime is to reach the focal point of Muslims [Mecca] and we will not wait until the fight is inside Saudi Arabia and we will work so that the battle is on their side, inside Iran, not in Saudi Arabia.”
Saudi Arabia has been “America’s closest Arab ally in the Middle East,” and has received “massive U.S. military aid and has long influenced American foreign policy….An added bonus for the Saudis has been America’s estrangement from Iran since the 1979 revolution.”
RichardL says
Not sure, I disagree with you. I believe most good people who are Muslims have two personalities and two characters. They cannot trust themselves and I don’t trust them really. But that guy is trying to make things better. Not good. Just better.
Chand says
RichardL says: “I believe most good people who are Muslims have two personalities and two characters. They cannot trust themselves………………..”
Okay, RichardL, I kinda get what you are saying. I don’t have a problem with Muslims as human beings. I do have a BIG problem with organized religions and among the varieties of Islam I have a HUGE problem with the Sunni brand of Wahabbism emanating out of Saudi Arabia, as ‘official’ Islam. And I have a HUMONGOUS problem with people who pretend to represent some religion, especially this crappy one, especially when they also pretend to come from some ‘royal’ family or some such crap. The Saudis have no right to speak for Islam or Muslims as if they own them just because Mecca and Medina happen to be under their forced control and they have recently gotten very rich due to the geographic lottery that gave them oil under their feet.
Chand says
Hugh Fitzgerald put it really well in a recent post on Kurdistan…………………………………………….
“80% of the world’s Muslims are non-Arabs. We need to point out to them how Islam is, and always has been, a vehicle for Arab supremacism. A Muslim is supposed to read the Qur’an in Arabic, to turn prostrate in prayer five times a day toward Mecca, in Arabia, to go on the hajj, again to Mecca, often to adopt an Arab name.”
gravenimage says
The Saudis run one of the most brutal Shari’ah states in the world. Their veneer of civilization is just that–a very thin veneer.
FYI says
Will Saudi Arabia be open to allowing other religions to flourish in such a “moderate” state,like Christians and Jews?
Of course not.
Yet the Saudis have been happily funding mosque-building all over the world.
So let’s see how “moderate” and tolerant the Saudis are..when they allow freedom of worship in their “moderate” country….
..which will surely happen when hell freezes over..
Bob says
Or is it all ‘taqqiya’?!
Guest says
Yes, it’s taqqiya: bullshit the infidels. They need our billions to continue to flow in so they can finance their many gold-plated palaces and harems and take their dozens of chador-clad wives per “prince” on shopping sprees to Qatar, Paris and London for the most expensive luxury brands – back and forth on their private jets. Do some traveling people and you’ll see what’s going on.
Chand says
Totally right, Guest. They are a rotten bunch.
Elizabeth says
STOP our billions from flowing into their country! Why is this wealthy country not standing on their own, and expecting money from the US anyway?
Anne Smith says
Let us hope he means it, is sincere, and is not assassinated.
Robert_K says
What’s the crown-prince’s life expectancy if he tries to moderate Islam?
Voytech says
K.I.A
Milad Meah says
Was there ever a time when Churches, Synagogues and Hindu temples etc. were allowed in Saudi Arabia?
David Hollalz says
Not since around A.D. 600. Islam is a violent unitarian, quasi-Christian heresy. The Dome of the Rock inscriptions show that at first Jesus Christ, son of Mary, was early Islam’s original “Prophet.” The Dome rejects the Trinity, but promotes Jesus as their human “Prophet.” The floor plan of the Kabbah in Mecca belies it’s Christian antecedents, complete with baptistry at the entrance and former apse where the Christian altar was.
gravenimage says
The last time Churches and Synagogues flourished in Arabia was the early 7th century…
MFritz says
It’s true! The Saudis want to moderate islam. By financing islamic terrorist groups and fanatic imams, you sure as hell get a lot of “moderation” over them.
John Forbes says
UTTER NONSENSE FROM THE SAUDI’S AGAIN!
THEIR MOSQUES PREACH HATRED EVERY DAY & IF POSSIBLE MORE ON FRIDAY !
THE WAHABI SECT IS BEHIND THE PUSH FOR THE SPREAD OF ISLAM WORLD WIDE WITH PUBLICATIONS BEING PRINTED ALL OVER & MOSQUE BUILDING IN ALL COUNTRIES EXCEPT ANGOLA !
THEY BACK THE JUSTIN TRUDEAU MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LIBERALS IN THEIR ISLAMISATION PUSH IN CANADA & THANKS TO JUSTIN ( WHO MANY NOW FINALLY REALIZE IS PROBABLY A CONVERT & HATES CHRISTIANITY ) ARE DOING VERY WELL !
TO STOP THE TERROR SAUDI ARABIA WAHABISM HAS TO BE ATTACKED !!
Gen Jones says
Pro Tip: Most people don’t read comments that are in all caps because it’s considered shouting.
Carolyne says
I don’t read them because they are really hard to read when one is accustomed to normal writing. They might be interesting, but I don’t read them.
Chand says
Damn right! John Forbes.
And the dumb fool Trump has fallen for their bull too.
Carolyne says
And Hillary Clinton, who has received at least $20 million from the Saudis would not fall for their tricks? She already has, only she knows they are tricks but doesn’t care. She was the other choice.
Carolyne says
And would Hillary curtsey as Obama bowed to the king? Probably.
Darwin says
Well at least didn’t BOW to them for the world to see, what a disgrace he was. Holy uranium one.
James Stamulis says
Yeah right and my body is going back to being a 20 year old again. Don’t hold your breath folks.
Dan Moller says
Islam should be banned from the west. Saudi Arabia finance mosques over the world. This is because the have to get new muslims visit Mekka. Oil will be ended soon and tourism is the only way for the princes to keep people silent. Time to wake up. No founding from Saudi Arabia in to western countries. No real estate, no newspappers no broadcasting. Saudi already have a lot of shares in western media, because the will stop critic from this MSM.
politicalqrm says
I don’t believe him: it’s part of islam’s ‘lying to advance islam’ doctrine…
Emilie Green says
Their idea of Moderate Islam,
“Instead of chopping off one hand and the opposite foot, we’ll now only do one chopping. And to demonstrate how really forward-thinking we are, we’ll be letting the thief choose which appendage and which side. And they say we’re still in the 7th Century.”
Darwin says
Emilie, i wonder if this means less gay tossing of buildings also.
Sarah says
I cannot stand the Arabs. The last thing I care about, are the smug declarations by some dark eyed sadist in a teatowel, who is secretly petrified about the obscene oil cash he and his country have merrily burned their way through over the past few decades, drying up soon.
‘Return to moderate Islam’. Oh please. Saudi Arabia has never been moderate. Its very creation as a nation came about as a result of a devil’s pact between a bunch of tribal primates who signed a deal with the feral clerics that gave said tribal primates the opportunity to call themselves ‘royalty’ and run the whole show – as long as it was all to the tune of the clerics and their beloved Islam. They never knew ‘moderate Islam’ and never will.
Faisal was a blip on the radar of Saudi history. He is lauded as a reformer – but only because he was cut down so quickly – right in the middle of a couple of half baked reforms that he tried to promote. If he’d been given the expected 40 odd years of rule that he could have had – he would no doubt be remembered very differently – and like pretty much every other House of Saud pig. Just another decadent, obese, greedy monster who left the dump in a worse place than he found it in – albeit with a more heavily feathered nest for his 140+ kids and the rest of his ever expanding so-called ‘royal’ family.
They’re losing control of their control over the world through oil prices. They don’t manufacture anything. They don’t create anything. They don’t innovate or design anything. They’re decadent, obscene, exhausted and sickeningly fattened on the wealth of oil – all which came about solely thanks to geographical sheer luck. Without that oil money, they are screwed – hell, they are beyond screwed.
I for one, predict it’ll take a decade at best, 3 decades at the most for all the Gulf State Arab nations to devolve back into what they were before their oil money came along; once it dries up. And I’ll be cheering from the sidelines.
bonnie loranger says
I don’t believe him.
Chand says
The whole world must directly confront Saudi Arabia about the official spread of their Wahabbism which is like poisoning the waters of the ocean. It is a crime against humanity. ‘Kill Kafirs’ cannot be taught as official ‘religion’ to kids anywhere, including the vulnerable poor of the world. The financing of madarsas and charities by Saudi Arabia has to be conditional……………..on condition that the Koran is not taught as the main curriculum. Especially their Wahabbi interpretation of it.
David Pimentel says
I am flabbergasted with all of these silly comments saying “I hope he is sincere.”
False hope is no hope.
The only constant about liars is they constantly change their words. Consider Bill and Hillary Clinton as evidence for this assertion.
staffsgt7 says
let us see the first church, Jewish temple – and for that matter a settlement of Jews – in sowdie barbaria. A country who still requires their women to get permits from their owners to drive. I wonder what they will do with their slave trade too. Or how about the beheadings and other crap in ‘chop chop’ square. The list goes on with their perversions and violent thuggery. One doesn’t change islam without a concerted effort to change their texts – in Arabic – in moslem countries – in the mosques – etc. I could go on but I will believe it when I see it.
Vic says
Move along people. Nothing to see here. Unless changes are made to the foundational doctrines and directed to and within the Islamic community first, the unbelievers status within Islamic teaching remains exactly the same.
Building a church or synagogue in SA is gathering the Christians and Jews in one place for easy pickings. The rest of the Muslims won’t have received the memo from the Prince. Case is point–see what is happening to Christians in Egypt or any other Islamic majority country where Christians are “allowed” to worship. They are persecuted and killed. Where, oh where, do these extremists get their directives from?
Nope. Don’t believe anything substantive will come out of his promises. Islam is a supremacist ideology hiding under a religious cult and its doctrines are evil–hurting believers and non-believers alike.
Islam acts as a Tribal Criminal Gang that doesn’t deserve the respect of being called a religion. It should be treated as such and relentlessly delegitimized. Think about it. Compare them to MS 13 modus operandi and tenets or how about the Mafia. Most of them were and purport to be “devout Catholics”, yet we separate the gang from the religious beliefs/church.
Henner720 says
that is to Late the genie is Our of the bottle. i see massive attacked in sauďi countries comming years.
commonsense says
So in new, moderate Saudi Arabia, will I, as a non-Muslim, be able to go to Mecca? I’d love to take a peek inside the Ka’aba. I’d even be willing to go in the off-season, when the circumambulating Faithful are gone and it’s not that busy. Whaddiya say, Salmin?
commonsense says
Oh, and I’ll bring over a nice coffee cake from Manny’s Bakery in Brooklyn, and some whitefish salad. Deal?
commonsense says
…And can I call you Sammy? Thanks!
Hummer says
Deceptions and lies fit with the ideology-that’s the way they roll and always have.
A European says
“To restore moderate Islam that is open to all religions and to the world?”
What is this? Prince Charming discovering the language of wisdom or is it the gibberish of a decadent princeling who tries to pull wool over the eyes of gullible Westerners? With ISIS being in its final throes, supremacist Islam has suffered defeat; and what do Muslims do, if they feel hard pressed? Well, they fetch the Meccan Quran from the bookshelves and start reciting all those wonderful verses like “there is no compulsion in religion ( Quran 2,256)” and “You have your religion, I have mine” ( Quran 109,6) or “Had Allah willed they had not been idolatrous. We have not set thou as a keeper over them, nor art thou responsible for them” ( Quran 6,107) or “Allah does not forbid you to be kind to those who take not up arms against you. Allah loves those who are just (Quran 60,8).” But they always forget to mention that these verses which seem to promote tolerance and peace have been abrogated by the later, more intolerant and belligerent verses of the Medinan Quran. This talk about tolerance and moderate Islam just permits them to reconsider strategies and to regain strength,.
IanB says
In other news coming in from Saudi Arabia:
Pigs reported flying over Mecca.
gravenimage says
🙂
mortimer says
DISINFORMATION ! Soddy Barbaria was NEVER ‘moderate’. The House of Saud started like the TALIBAN… executing people for smoking a cigarette!
What’s ‘moderate’ mean?
I think this king is going to be targeted as an apostate by all the ultraconservatives.
He’s going to have to assassinate all the conservatives in Soddy.
Carolyne says
They will be returning to what they were before? What were they before? Same ol’, same ol’.
Chand says
I’m sure they were worse before!
solstice says
I actually think that that these are encouraging words and measures on the part of the Crown Prince. What Robert Spencer and some commenters here are failing to grasp is that the Crown Prince cannot move too fast in reducing the power and influence of Islam in Saudi Arabia because that country is full of fundamentalist nut-jobs who would assassinate him were he to do so. Therefore, the gradualist approach is the appropriate approach.
Tommy Peters says
Folks, it’s just business, from Herzl’s playbook. A tutorial for the serfs and Goyims, we are. The end objective is deleting the Saudis from the Petrodollar. This divide-and-conquer thing has a long Zionist history. Let’s just say, Mecca was too juicy a plum for the Twelvers (aka Iran, the recently acquired Zionist queen) to refuse. Appended is an imagined conversation between Esau and his uncle Ishmael, where the former plays the latter like a good fiddle, like he always did. Bear with me, it’s a long one!
Salman: – Erdogan has some gall. He inked a gas deal with Iran, our archenemy; and to twist the knife, the Turk agreed to pay the Shiites higher than what our GCC boys are offering. Shall I organize another ‘eruption’ at Gezi Park? He has not learnt his lesson from the earlier episode. Personally, Mr. Netanyahu, I prefer the old scarf and dagger to finish him.
Bibi: – Take a seat, Sal. My Turkish serf has no gall, nor are the Persians playing hardball. I green-lighted the deal behind your back, and asked Iran to hike up the price, as well.
Salman: – What! Are you in the tank with Iran? How long has this ‘affair’ been going on? And how in god’s name, Mr. Netanyahu, am I to explain this to the council. We take pride in our all-Sunni GCC, our ‘coalition of the willing’ setup to serve the interest of the Zionist and configured specifically to exclude the Shiites, which Iran represents.
Bibi: – I prefer the term ‘coalition of the billing’ uttered privately in successful law partnerships. I know it is less noble, but brutally honest, don’t you agree? The tagline has been our guiding motto at the business end of our Zionist stick, where those who work diligently in our financial interest are amply rewarded with a defined track into our ‘inner circle’ that comes with a stake in our fiefdom, which in turn earns our protection from the hordes lurking at the borders.
Salman: – You got me a bit nervous for a while, Mr. Netanyahu. I am relieved to hear that I am indeed, in your ‘inner circle’. I always regarded myself as the Underboss to the Don himself. Not a mere Consigliore and definitely not a Capo or Soldier. Those lesser designations are assigned to Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and the other noisy bits on the periphery.
Bibi: – Sal, the elders balk at the Mafia and the use of its crude terminology. I prefer the ‘law partnership’ jargon where the vocabulary is ‘legal’ and ‘civilized’ thus ensuring a soundtrack that is clean, distinct and goes well at the cocktails. Let’s just say, that for too long I promoted a ‘wrong lawyer’ as my right-hand man, simply on the basis of longevity, and that I am weighing my options in the ‘interest of the firm’ while mindful that those who are willing to sacrifice, perform well and provide overall profitability to the ‘partnership’ will earn my trust and enjoy generous lockstep increases in compensation and lifetime employment in the ‘firm’. You get my drift, Sal?
Salman: – I get your drift, Mr. Netanyahu, and take it that I am the ‘wrong lawyer’ you promoted. A simple question! When are you giving the House of Saud the ‘Axe’ in favor of Iran?
Bibi: – Salman, the word ‘Axe’ is a brutal term to say the least. Let’s cut a couple of cubans over a tipple and discuss this, shall we? Your august House of Saud has been in partnership with the Zionist for almost a century. We go back a long way, Sal. Do we have to talk like this?
Salman:- Mr. Netanyahu, I don’t have time for a speech and coupled with the fact that I’m not stupid, I have observed the events that unfolded since 911, the magnum opus of the Mossad, have benefited and strengthened Iran and only Iran, my ideological nemesis; and now you have implied that this was your design. And if I may add, I was wrong to think that ‘treachery’ was the forte of the Arabs.
Bibi: – You appear to have gotten more than just a ‘drift’ from me, haven’t you! Parked on my desk is a sign that reads ‘Don’t Laugh At My Moustache’. It’s an old proverb that means ‘I Know More Than You Think I Know’. The sign belongs on your desk. You appear to have earned it. My design, you say! How so, Sal? Enlighten me!
Salman: – First, with 911 as your convenient ‘Pearl Harbor’ you charge into Afghanistan, Iran’s traditional enemy to the east, purportedly to ‘hunt down’ bin Laden, the patsy of our ‘joint-venture’ and a dead one at that. In the melee, you sack the Taliban-Afghan Sunni-centric administration and replace it with the Shiite variety, the ideological comrade of Iran. End result. Iran holds sway over Afghanistan.
Bibi: – You’re getting warm, Sal!
Salman: – Second, you destroy Saddam, Iran’s arch nemesis to the west and replace his Baathist administration with a Shiite variety. End result. Iran holds sway over Iraq.
Bibi: – You have warmed up. Your analysis has a distinct Zionist streak within. I’m impressed. Keep talking!
Salman: – Third, you weaken the Sunni military governing Yemen by incessantly droning its key personnel, thus enabling Iranian-backed Houthis to gain ground. End result. Iran holds sway over Yemen.
Bibi: – You are good! It’s a revelation. Salman, you are more astute than your grandfather, your father and your horde of siblings put together. I trust you’re not done!
Salman: – Fourth, your impending overthrow of Abdullah of Jordan and his Hashemite dynasty by using our Salafi boys and the CIA for the purpose of installing a Shiite-inspired Palestinian-friendly regime that would create a ‘Palestinian Homeland’ within Jordan, to conveniently solve your ‘Palestinian problem’ in the West Bank and Gaza. End result. Iran holds sway over Jordan.
Bibi: – Salman, I thought I was manning the conspiracy desk. I mean, to send Abdullah waxing away in France about democracy, terrorism, ISIS and what not, was a hilarious sitcom, wasn’t it? The King of Jordan was holding court, for crying out loud. He was so convincing he everyone rapt and gaping. I lost count of the standing ovations. Sometimes, Sal, I have to be reminded that our western-educated scholar is actually part of our ISIS ‘Hornet’s Nest’ joint venture. He’s such a good actor, no?
Salman: – You are digressing, Mr. Netanyahu. Talk to me!
Bibi: Okay, Sal, I’ll come clean. We are planning a coup that would enable Iran to take over your Kingdom. It will take three years. I plan to finish this by 2018. Your impending execution of al-Nimr amongst the other Shiites you have lined up will trigger the groundswell at the Eastern corridor, the percussor to your sacking. We appointed Qatar to ‘handle’ Iran. And you would have noticed UAE opted out of the coalition, in order to enable the Persians some wriggle room to take Syria. Bahrain has been compromised. The recent Shiite uprising was the ‘canary in the coalmine’ so was the Turkey-Iran gas deal, which I trust you have analyzed. When the Shiites are at your door, NATO will look the other way. The Egyptians and Pakistanis stationed in your Kingdom will be trapped for some good old-fashioned ‘Dunkirk’ slaughter driven by the old Sunni-Shia beef. The ‘big girls’ that comprise your Saudi Land Force will be irrelevant with their mommies shielding them, literally, from the Shiite onslaught, just as your F16s would be, with their avionics disengaged by our boys at General Dynamics. I could unpack the rest of the nasty ‘workflow’ but I am wondering if the ‘old ticker’ can withstand it. I hear you’re not well.
Salman: Why, Mr. Netanyahu. Why us! You once reminded me of Sheikh Imran’s pronouncement that “Israel and Saudi Arabia are Sisters” and I believed and trusted you, given that we have been partners for close to a century and have been supplying your energy needs for just as long, not to mention covering your false flags now and then, engineering the birth of the Petrodollar with Kissinger and refereeing Yom Kippur to your advantage. Hence, I’m baffled as to why you would ‘kill your golden goose’ that has been providing your necessary ‘eggs’ all this while?
Bibi: That’s a loaded question, Salman, but it comes with a simple answer. We consider the House of Saud the ‘dreaded middleman’ to the Petrodollar. Simply put, we are removing it from the ‘supply chain’ to revive the greenback. Iran and the rest of OPEC are in the tank with us. Your Kingdom has evolved into an understudy of the ‘dependence’ culture of the Arabs juxtaposed with the ‘shoulder to the wheel’ approach of the Persians. I trust you will understand – It’s business. Besides this divide-and-conquer thing has a long Zionist history. Let’s just say, Mecca and Medina were too juicy a plum for the Twelvers to refuse.
gravenimage says
I see the repulsive “Tommy Peters” is claiming that Islamic savagery is really “Zionist”, and that the United States–or maybe Mossad, it isn’t clear–was responsible for 9/11, and that the horror of Islamic Jihad is not a threat at all.
Take your crap elsewhere–no one s going to swallow this Taqiyya here.
Jack Diamond says
Tommy al-Peters is hearing voices again. While they are vile and nonsensical, they are also illuminating in one respect, as a florid example of the conspiratorial mindset that pervades the Muslim World (i.e. Crazy House). Islam, of course, is forever blameless.
Long ago when he was also more illuminating, Daniel Pipes wrote about Middle Eastern Conspiracy Theories (without delving into the Islamic contribution), from 1992:
“Conspiracy theories spawn their own discourse, complete in itself and virtually immune to rational argument. Five assumptions distinguish the conspiracy theorist from more conventional patterns of thought: appearances deceive; conspiracies drive history; nothing is haphazard; the enemy always gains; power, fame, money, and sex account for all.
“In the Middle East, moreover, almost every speculation about the hidden hand ultimately refers back to two grand conspirators: Zionists and imperialists. And imperialism, of course, means primarily the U.S. government.
{Pipes quotes J.B. Kelly} “To read, for instance, the extracts from the Cairo and Baghdad press and radio . . . is to open a window upon a strange and desolate landscape, strewn with weird, amorphous shapes cryptically inscribed “imperialist plot,” “Zionist crime,” “Western exploitation,” . . . and “the revolution betrayed.” Around and among these enigmatic structures, curious figures, like so many mythical beats, caper and cavort – “enemies,” “traitors,” “stooges,” “hyenas,” “puppets,” “lackeys,” “feudalists,” “gangsters,” “tyrants,” “criminals,” “oppressors,” “plotters” and deviationists”. . . . It is all rather like a monstrous playing board for some grotesque and sinister game, in which the snakes are all hydras, the ladders have no rungs, and the dice are blank. “- John B. Kelly, 1973
“Conspiracy theories provide remarkable insights into the minds of their propagators. Mirror-imaging – the projecting of one’s own motives and behavior on to others – implies that accusations often reflect the speaker’s own intentions. In February 1943, Josef Goebbels instructed Nazi propagandists to stress that if Germany loses the war, the Germans “will all be annihilated by world Jewry. Jewry is firmly decided to exterminate all Germans. International law and international custom will be no protection against the Jewish will for total annihilation.” This was, of course total nonsense; but it did closely describe what Nazis were doing to Jews.
Gamal Abdel Nasser’s insistence that Israel planned to eliminate the Arabs corresponded to his own effort to eliminate Israel.
Saddam Husayn’s subservient media actually described their own master when describing the king of Saudi Arabia: “This Fahd is no more than a sinful libertine who filled the earth with sins and debauchery before he came to his throne through plotting and treachery. It is easy for such a treacherous libertine to lie, fabricate, and forge facts.”
“This points to a deeper truth. While the conspiracy theorist sees himself as very different from the conspirators he despises, he actually resembles them closely. In this, he echoes the clinical paranoid’s pattern: “the faults he finds in others are usually his own, and his picture of other people is a mirror of himself.” While conspiracy theorists see themselves as persecuted and endangered, in the process of defending themselves, they switch roles with their victims and end up as the persecutors and bullies. “Those who fear a Jewish Conspiracy,” Tadao Yanaihara rightly observes, “are those who suffer from nightmares of persecutions they themselves inflicted on Jews.” Conspiracy theories, in short, provide rare insights to the internal workings of otherwise inaccessible minds.
“The conspiracy mentality will subside only when Middle Easterners come to understand that not all states – and especially not democracies – engage in conspiracies as much as they do. Yet such model behavior, however laudable, may not work. Suspicions are so deeply ingrained in the Middle East outlook that even saintly activities arouse doubts.”
http://www.meforum.org/pipes/214/dealing-with-middle-eastern-conspiracy-theories
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Look at the House of Saud’s track record. This is nothing but more lying. Without a doubt they are the world’s top funders of terrorism, and will continue to be until they are poor again and back in their tents!
Older Canadian says
Perhaps they should start with changing the curriculum in their Islamic Studies University. Isis leader who has a Ph.D from.
When they do this and only then it may be possible.
endislam says
Nonsense. Total BS.
gravenimage says
Saudi Crown Prince: Saudi Arabia will “return” to “moderate Islam”
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And *when* was that, exactly? What a steaming load of Taqiyya.
More Ham Ed says
Yes exactly, and I can smell the burnt taqiyya cooking in kitchens all across SAUD_i Arabia.
Carl Goldberg, PhD says
So, the “… crown prince vowed on Tuesday to return his country to a more tolerant form of Islam…”, eh? Don’t buy this propaganda. Islam does not come in “more tolerant” or “less tolerant” forms. Islam is the Koran and the sayings of Muhammad; and they are what they are. As Turkish president Erdogan once said: “There is no such thing as moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam, and that’s it.”
The practice of Islam could be moderate but only in so far as it deviates from the sacred doctrines of Islam which call for perpetual war on non-Moslems and suppression of women. The mosques, will always be factories of hate and jihad because they follow Islamic sacred doctrine. Just as Islam is not only a religion but also a totalitarian and imperialist ideology, so the mosques are not only houses of prayer but also propagation centers for that ideology.
More Ham Ed says
“Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman has vowed to restore “moderate” Islam that is open to all religions in the world.”
What, no more wahhabi ranch dressing on their salads?
Will they start sprinkling bacon bits on their salads?
I doubt either one.
Debi Brand says
This is wonderful!!!!
Saudi Gov. states, “to hades with ‘ “Allah” and His Messenger’!
“Who needs them? Who wants them and the message they brought?
“Not us.”
Chand says
I hate people who call themselves ‘Kings’ and ‘Princes’ and ‘Princesses’ and ‘royalty’ and ‘monarchy’ and such………………..
The American, French, Russian and Chinese revolutions have demolished them long ago……………..
Monarchies should be toppled and the monarchs should be made to do hard labor for a few years to cleanse their brains of garbage. Only then will they join the human race and their words have any meaning at all.
&*%# you, Prince!!
The Rationalvoiced says
“The proof of the pudding is in the eating” as they used to say.I may have got my facts wrong here but it was reported very recently that a Scotsman was arrested for “touching another man on the hip” and put through a lot of “Saudi ” legal action and imprisonment and was just recently released to go home to Scotland.Half the travelers on the London Underground would be arrested if that was the law here.
Saudi Arabia have a very long way to go come up the standards of the modern world
Indeed all countries which are foolish enough to let themselves be ruled by the absurdly silly and outmoded sayings of ancient books need to get real.
Why are ancient and largely ignorant people from the middle east or elsewhere more wise than people today who have vastly more knowledge.They certainly were not visited by a god or experienced anything other than crazy dreams.
There is a quote from the Bible from I think Jesus(if he really existed) asking the people why they cared about providing for themselves as the birds of the air don’t care and God looked after them.
Well the facts are the birds of the air do care but as they can’t speak they have to spend most of their time foraging for food and can’t complain.If they can’t find enough food they drop dead and fall from the sky if they can find the strength to get up in the first place.
This in fact is the case in the UK where sparrows have virtually disappeared which they think is due to changing farming practices and other species have also met the same fate for various reasons
The same would happen to the human species if we were so foolish as to take his advice !!!!