Is polygamy still illegal in the UK? If it is, then this site should be shut down. Britain, like all Western countries, is going to have to decide whether or not it is going to enforce its own laws and defend its own culture, or continue to defer to and appease Sharia supremacists until Britain is a full Sharia state. If Britain does not want to adopt Sharia in its entirety, at a certain point British officials are going to have to draw the line. But the longer they tolerate this kind of thing, the more difficult that will be to do.
“100,000 Brits sign up for polygamous dating site helping Muslim men find multiple wives,” RT, October 24, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A website that helps Muslim men find “second wives” in Britain has more than 100,000 users registered, it has been revealed. The practice has been accused of opening women, often younger than their husbands, to physical abuse and even trafficking.
In the UK, polygamous marriages – in which a person has more than one spouse – are only recognized if they took place in countries where they are legal. British law, however, does not stop unregistered religious ceremonies from taking place.
Most Muslims in Britain do not practice polygamy, but some interpretations of the Quran say that a man may marry two, three, or four women, so long as he can deal justly and fairly with each of them.
SecondWife.com creator Azad Chaiwala says the website came from his “need” and “thinking there’ll be other people in my situation.”
“There are other deceiving ways of doing it – affairs, prostitution etc – those are not necessarily good for relationships,” he told the BBC.
“Here it is more honorable.”
Around 100,000 people have signed up – with men outnumbering women three to one, Chaiwala said. He denied the website was just for men, however.
“It takes two hands to clap; a guy can’t do it on his own. We’ve got so many successful marriages and so many women signed up themselves… they are opting to enter this kind of relationship.”
Yasmin Rehman of the Centre for Secular Space told the Daily Mail the website is “deeply dangerous” and called on politicians to step in.
“He’s promoting inequality and exploitation of women, and undermining what marriage is about. And he’s making money out of it.”
Rehman, who is a Muslim, added: “I think he’s flouting the law – anyone else would be subject to polygamy laws. It sits alongside websites like brides from abroad.
“I meet women who have been trafficked and prostituted. I’m fed up with this being accepted. There are Muslim women across the world fighting this, some at great risk to themselves.”…
Chaiwala says his website does not break the law, and claims it “benefits women.”
Eur says
We used to live better, safier… without muslims.
mortimer says
This is disgusting and revolting. How can women be so self-despising?
Islam is a form of the Stockholm syndrome.
Islam’s emotional subtext is sadomasochism.
Those women are masochists.
gravenimage says
In many cases, the first wives don’t get a choice. Sometimes they don’t even find out until the second wife is brought home.
Gen Jones says
Or the second wife is kept a secret from the first. And the third … and the fourth.
Imagine a marriage where your husband is looking for another wife on his free time. Potentially having children with another woman and telling you way too late for you to have any say in the matter. He doesn’t have to tell you about his other wife/wives. If he’s weathy enough to have separate households you’d never know. (And the British taxpayer is apparently helping with benefits for that “single mom” who is actually wife #2 or 3 or … ) It’s the perfect recipe for keeping women submissive and pleasing and vying for position as favorite and erasing any self esteem they might have just to keep their families intact. Because if he merely says “I Divorce You, I Divorce You, I Divorce You” you are on your own and he keeps your children.
Islam is the original evil patriarchy that feminists/social justice warriors seem oblivious to. We certainly have our sexist pigs and our Harvey Weinsteins but there’s so many great husbands and devoted dads to admire and appreciate. Men who want partners, their “better half”, women who will help them and challenge them to be their best.
Islam is just so ugly for women on so many levels. And alienating for men too.
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam is hideous for women, and dehumanizing for everyone.
bonnie loranger says
I agree with you
Michael McDermott says
It is already deployed in North West England in Muslim community – blind-eye turned by authorities. Not to mention manipulation of the social services income payments!
notmoron says
Many countries in Africa and middle east were Christian majority till muslims came in with their polygamous marriage and that was the end of Christianity in those countries.
Europe is heading that way.
Westman says
When the TV drama, “Big Muslim Love”, appears on BBC we will know for certain that the UK is well on its way to the dystopia that results when a nation’s laws are abandoned.
The Americans financed a program that took them to the moon. The UK is financing a program that will take them to the moon-god.
PRCS says
Good analogy.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Most Muslims in Britain do not practice polygamy, but some interpretations of the Quran say that a man may marry two, three, or four women, so long as he can deal justly and fairly with each of them.”
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“Some interpretations”? Please, it couldn’t be any clearer.
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“SecondWife.com creator Azad Chaiwala says the website came from his “need” and “thinking there’ll be other people in my situation.”
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Yeah, we know all about his “need”. Just like muhammeds needs aren’t they…..
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“There are other deceiving ways of doing it – affairs, prostitution etc – those are not necessarily good for relationships,” he told the BBC.
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Yes yes, lots of ways to go about satisfying your “need”, muhammed gave you lots of filthy options didnt he…just not the one about self control, commitment, life long loyalty, that kind of thing.
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“Here it is more honorable”
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No, it isn’t. Only in the context of the qorans utterly perverted morality does this rate as better, but it’s ‘better’ only in the sense that raping one woman is ‘better’ than raping ten. But then again, muhammed said you can do either of those without it being the worse, didn’t he. Welcome to the topsy-turvy spectacle of qoranic morality hell.
PRCS says
““Some interpretations”? Please, it couldn’t be any clearer.”
Exactly.
James says
He forgot about the baby-screwing and boy-screwing. And the donkey-screwing. And the Taharrush.
Bev says
Britain doesn’t exist any more.
Yokel says
Yes, I do feel a stranger in the land of my birth.
gravenimage says
This is tragic–but it should make patriotic Britons *angry*, and wanting to defend their civilized land.
Walter Sieruk says
Polygamy is not sanctioned by God. For example God gave Adam one wife. Furthermore, in the New Testament Jesus taught “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife…” Jesus said “wife.” Not “wives” Mathew 19:5. [K.J.V.] Likewise, in First Timothy 3:2. In instructs “A bishop the must be blameless, the husband on one wife.” Here again it’s “one wife” Nevertheless, there are some people who will act as apologists for polygamy by say the king David of Israel and then later his son ,who became King Solomon of Israel did practice polygamy. Such people aren’t taking into account both the time and place. For the only reason that God did tolerate this tradition was not because it was right or that He approved of it. It was because this practice of having many wives was such an entrenched custom in the ancient Middle East that God allowed it for the above mentioned Kings of Israel. This does not mean that this custom, of polygamy, was to keep on going in other times and places.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed. Matthew 19 and the corresponding admonishments for leaders in the church are foundational for Christian marital ethics. Polygamy never seemed to work out all that happily in the OT did it?
It is another good example, if one were needed, showing how muhammeds qoran is not, as it claims to be, the final and surmounting revelation of the God of the Bible.
James says
Apparently Isa the Almost Greatest Prophet was not up to getting a simple question of sexual ethics right, and to be corrected by Mo. So, Isa can’t be as big a deal as the Koran says he is. So much for the Koran being the finalest, Bestest, truest, authoritativest Divine Revelatiom,
James says
…and needed to be corrected…
gravenimage says
Of course, “Isa” has nothing in common with Jesus.
Jayell says
What it’s promoting is illegal, so shut it down, prosecute anyone linked with it.
PRCS says
Well, the jury’s out on it being illegal. Apparently.
Juhani says
Polygamy works, it produces lone and angry men for Islam’s army.
Juhani says
But the rabies goes out of control if there are women without veils.
Juhani says
But the rabies goes out of control if there are women without veils around.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Only “second”wife.com? Let’s get into the spirit of Quran 4:3.
“Four girls for every boy, Sufi City here we come!”
Jake says
I’m gonna be honest. This is their LEAST bad thing they’re doing. At least affairs and polygamy don’t kill people. If they wanna have a threesome, fine, I don’t care, as long as they are all consenting.
Michael Copeland says
The trouble is that the taxpayer is funding all these bogus “single mums”.
The taxpayer, meanwhile, cannot afford so many children.
utis says
You nailed it right there. Who is going to pay for all these households and their offspring? As I recall, Mohammed said up to four wives are O.K. only if you can afford them. He was probably thinking of his men, living off what they could steal from caravans and churches and temples.
If this scam gets going, British taxpayers should go wild in the streets right outside the homes of their legislators and judges.
By the way, is there still English law in Britain?
PRCS says
Big Al said that, not Mo.
And that scam is ongoing.
PRCS says
Absolutely correct.
4 wives.
Unlimited number of children.
And a government that’s permitting the situation.
Per Anjem Choudary: they’re on “Jihad Seeker’s Allowance”.
James says
It increases all those lovely STDs though – we the public have to pay for all those.
Jake says
Like people don’t sleep around already. At least it’s not California, where KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY spreading AIDS is no longer a felony.
PRCS says
Good ‘ole Gob. Moonbeam!
gravenimage says
The problem is that in many they are *not* all consenting. Often the first wife knows nothing about it, and often in arranged marriages the wife does not know that her husband is already married until she is brought to his house. The family knows, but the new wife does not.
This might be a bit more difficult to pull off in the West, but it is *very* common in Dar-al-Islam.
And polygamy is *illegal* in the civilized West, so this is more pushing Infidels to accept Islamic savagery.
Also–polygamous Muslims are more Islamic, and so are also more apt to wage violent Jihad. This things are not really separate.
Gen Jones says
Absolutely, Graven.
RodSerling says
These polygamy numbers must be seen from the large-scale demographic perspective. 100,000 Muslim men, each with multiple wives and multiple children with each wife, can possibly produce double, triple, or quadruple the number of children produced by monogamous Muslim couples–who already have birth rates much higher than the general non-Muslim population. By taking multiple women, the Muslim men are also denying non-Muslim men the opportunity to marry those women. (Marriage between a non-Muslim man and Muslim woman is of course forbidden in Islam).
This is all part of Islamic demographic jihad, conceived of by Muhammad with his command to Muslims, to marry women who are “very prolific,” so that the Muslim ummah will outnumber all others. Add to that Allah’s permission to Muslim men to marry up to four wives at one time. Islam is designed to conquer non-Muslims through every means possible.
utis says
That home-page picture completely creeps me out. The male has 3 adult wives. Since islam allows four, is that little girl in the pink hijab his no. 4? I think that interpretation can be fairly made.
Also, who decides who does the dishes, who cooks, who takes out the trash. How do they treat the children of each wife — “impartially,” I bet. And four wives can be played off against one another, but just two will probably be tearing each other and the husband to pieces over every domestic issue. And I would certainly hate to be a child caught alone with some batty wife who wants to kill everybody else’s brats. Don’t take candy from a strange Mommy, kids.
Gen Jones says
Indeed. Just think that Osama bin Laden was one of 56 children of his father’s 22 wives. How can he feel loved or special or unique as a child growing up in that situation. It’s disheartening enough in a job when you realize management acts as if you can be replaced but your own father?
gravenimage says
Often first wives are sidelined and become essentially servants.
seabird says
I’d love to see a SecondHusband.com for the ladies
and let the fun (and squirming hypocrisy) begin.
A Stop Polygamy organization in the US claims there are already about 100,000 polygamous marriages here, most of them Mormon and Islamic.
gravenimage says
UK: 100,000 Muslims sign up for polygamous dating site
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See the picture? Women just *love* being interchangeable brood sows for wife-beating Mohammedans…sarc/off
God, I hate Islam.
And yes–British authorities should shut this down.
gravenimage says
Also, this works out to a little less than one in ten Muslim males–a truly disturbing figure, considering how many must already be polygamists going through more traditional channels.
Sarah says
I don’t think it should be banned – I think its a highly useful tool, to be honest. Same as the polygamy dating app in Australia created by that hipster tool Muslim who sprouted off claims of how it somehow benefits women blah blah.
The UK authorities are worrying over the high number of jihadis floating around in their midst right now, they are worrying about enclaving and about Muslims who do not integrate and thus, logically, are aligned to Islam and are rejecting the West?
Well here is a nice and tidy list of 100,000 of them. Swoop in, get that database, round the animals up and kick them out.
This stupid website is a first class way to prove who is prioritizing Islam over the West. But I’ll bet that the authorities are far too gutless to use it, to their full advantage.
And for any woman who lives in the West and who has signed up to a site like this? GTFO now. You can see with your own eyes, day in and day out how your life could be. You can see the opportunities an rights you are afforded. And you reject them wholeheartedly – so you can line up and be Sexual Meat Number 5 for some hairy faced, sadistic pervert? Enjoy it, with my blessing. Just go enjoy it in some Islamic cesspit and not in the West.
Gen Jones says
Super smart idea!!
gravenimage says
+1
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/23/identitarian-activists-unfurl-giant-defend-london-banner-westminster-bridge/
FYI says
Will there be a polyandrous dating site for muslim women?
Of course not:that would mean women would have to be equal to men.
Muslims think they are free to grievously sin against God because they follow the warped teachings of their Commandment-violating god allah in his koran.
Polygamy,lying,murdering the innocent,forcing infidels to pay the jizya tax=stealing) are sanctioned by allah but are clearly prohibited in God’s Commandments.
Muslims do not obey God’s commandments at all:they think they are free to twist God’s Laws to suit themselves because their allah says so or because they have the disgraceful example of their self-appointed “prophet” muhammed to follow.
george says
SecondWife.com creator Azad Chaiwala says the website came from his “need” and “thinking there’ll be other people in my situation.”
He should do the martyr thing and blow himself up.Then he would go to paradise
and he could claim his 72 year old virgin. — Problem solved, 1 muslim less and we all would be happy!.
I wonder about leftists says
By your laws, polygamy IS FORBIDDEN ! FORBIDDEN!, SO WHY DO YOU LET ADVERTISEMENTS FOR MUSLIMS TO BE PUBLISHED? THERE ARE ALREADY 100.000 muslim men for second and third wives,
If 2 of them have already 9 children, you can imagine, And the taxpayer has to pick up the bill for those wives, children, housing food, extra things, health care. And they force children in public schools to bow down on their mats and pray to Allah, and then they can pay for all that themselves. i have a proposition:
Leftists you all wanted this, YOU should pay for all this and not the Islamophobs,infidels, kaffirs.
They are your problems.
gravenimage says
I checked out SecondWife.com.
The leading quote is this: “then marry women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly, then only one” – Quran 4:3, making it clear that this barbarism is sanctioned by the Qur’an.
And under “So why SecondWife.com?” it reads, “We are a Muslim polygamy matchmaking service. We set up this service as we believed this is a Sunnah we needed to revive. This service is for practising Muslims who are seeking marraige and accept polygamy as lifestyle”.
Why do Muslims need to revive this barbarism? Why, because it is Islamic, and is the perfect set up for breeding Jihadists.
Bizarrely, he claims that polygamy is not bigamy–even though, of course, this is *exactly* what having a second wife is. What he really means is that he doesn’t want polygamy to have the negative connotations of bigamy, nor–or course–does he want this to be illegal anywhere that Muslims are invading. That would be inconvenient in spreading the barbarism of Islam.
He asks, “will SecondWife.com create bad publicity for Muslims?” (notice he does not ask if this is wrong–just if it is bad publicity). He answers that he does not believe in bad publicity–all publicity is good for Muslims. (I suppose this includes all the publicity covering violent Jihad). He also describes any criticism of polygamy as “slander”. This is, in fact, how pious Muslims understand *any* criticism of Islam, including pedophilia, rape, and mass murder.
Under “Press and Media” we find this testamonial: “Azad wants to change the way we perceive polygamy. He believe it’s the last remaining social taboo but one without, general society is breaking apart.”
In other words, a society without this barbarism is not to be allowed.
Matthieu Baudin says
They seem to have it in their minds that they can do whatever they like – and they may be right about that. But what can you expect from an adoptive country whose people have been led to believe that they have no identity or core expectations.
LR says
I came across this ‘second wife’, website a couple months ago.
So much for ‘assimilating’ into ‘western culture’.
Britain, Sweden and other countries have themselves to blame for this. They are allowing polygamous marriages to stand if they were performed in other countries. What the heck do we expect when ‘the west’ allows such things? Certain people in society always push the limits, and especially when the society is seen as weak, and IS being weak.
So, what the heck is Britain going to do about this? It’s only the people putting pressure on politicians that ever changes anything.
As long as people in ‘the west’, do not move to change these pathetic policies of our governments, it will only keep getting worse.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3414264/Want-higher-benefits-marry-one-wife-New-welfare-rules-hand-extra-taxpayer-cash-polygamists.html