Afzal Suleman would apparently have us believe that he raised Shabazz Suleman to be a good “moderate,” rejecting “extremism,” until he encountered “radicals” on Twitter who “brainwashed” him. Why wasn’t the “moderate” Islam he supposedly learned from kind old Afzal sufficient to withstand the blandishments of the sinister Twitter hijackers of Islam? I doubt British authorities are pondering that question, its clear answer, or the implications of that answer.
“My son was brainwashed in his bedroom, says father of grammar school jihadi from High Wycombe who travelled to Syria to fight for ISIS,” by Charlie Bayliss, Mailonline, October 28, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The father of a young Briton who fled to Syria to fight for ISIS has warned about the dangers of being ‘brainwashed’ through the internet – and that he feels sympathy for those who join the death cult.
Shabazz Suleman joined Daesh three years ago but is now desperate to return to the UK to face justice.
His father Afzal Suleman, 46, said he regretted buying a phone for his son who he claims was radicalised on Twitter.
Suleman went missing on a family holiday to Turkey three years ago and has spent three years in northern Syria. He claims that he has renounced its twisted doctrine and wants to return to Britain.
His father, who works as a mechanic, said: ‘I feel sympathy for the people that go there… this is what young kids do [when they] see people being killed, being gassed.
On his own son’s choice to join ISIS, Mr Suleman said: ‘I don’t think people knew what was behind the doors [at the time].’
He was held by the Turkish secret service before being exchanged with 180 others for 49 Turkish hostages captured at the embassy in Mosul, northern Iraq.
Mr Suleman said that he had intermittent contact with his son during the three years and he believed that Suleman had not killed or tortured anyone.
‘If he has seen that side of things he wouldn’t have joined them. He was thinking of going there and helping people.’ He said that his son always had a keen interest in politics but that he had increasingly spent time alone in his room on his mobile phone.
‘The biggest mistake I made was buying a phone for him. He was in his bedroom on it all the time.
‘You don’t really keep an eye on their phone. I believe [his radicalisation] was through Twitter….
David E munson says
It’s real easy to radicalize a 5th century brain.
anti jihad says
Iran’s Ayatollah is frequently using twitter.. He may use this lad.
Walter Sieruk says
Concerning ISIS , there remains the ,very important, question “How to truly defeat ISIS once and for all ?” The answer to that question was provided in a speech by the ISIS spokesman, Abu Muhammad al Adnani, now dead, in this speech he had declared “True defeat is a loss of willpower and desire to fight…” he further explained “We would be defeated and you victorious only if you are able to remove the Quran from Muslim hearts.” All this leads to a very important question: “Is the Quran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?” The jihadists, as those of ISIS use many verses from the Quran as the main source of justification for their violence, mayhem and murders. As found in For example, 2:191.. 4:47 5::33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4 The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143] The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction,
SAM says
I agree with the father. That is why we should ban all the smart phones and computers so these “moderate” Muslims can not be tricked out of this “religion of peace” Poor Muslims!!! Again.
What a f***n joke!
jihad3tracker says
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT YET DISCOVERED DAVID WOOD AND HIS VIDEOS —–
Robert described Dr. Wood (Fordham PhD as “superlatively brilliant”, and that is accurate. Check out the 6:46 (short) video titled “Three Questions for Moderate Muslims”, on YouTube. Although brief, he really nails exactly what is wrong with the attitudes of Westernized Allah worshippers.
Also, please take a few minutes to send the video’s web path to those persons still clueless — in your family, friends, plus elected federal & state lawmakers, and some managers for the “news” divisions of mainstream-media TV stations you watch.
gravenimage says
Yes–David Wood is brilliant, and *very* informative on Islam.
gravenimage says
UK: Father of Islamic State jihadi says his son was “radicalized” on Twitter
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Um…right. It’s not as though Islam had anything to do with it…sarc/off
mariam rove says
His father like him is pathetic. m
gravenimage says
He just hopes the “filthy Infidels” will swallow this bs, mariam.
Jayell says
Those of us with children will know how they can embarrass us by ‘blowing the gaff’ on what goes on behind the front door, either by saying the ‘wrong’ thing in public or doing the ‘wrong’ thing. So, yes, it is interesting that this young person managed to be led astray – or so we are told – in what is most likely to have been a typical muslim family with an authoritarian father. So what was the father really saying and doing over the years? We’ve heard this ‘it’s nothing to do with me’ business before when muslims are caught out.
DRHazard says
Will the day ever come when Muslims openly admit to what is actually in the Quran and other primary Islamic scriptures? Anybody can read them (they are all translated into every language). So why don’t politicians and social activists, who have no problem claiming that Islam is peaceful, take the time to do it?
It is so obvious and so easy to understand. The record of Muhammad’s words and actions are a testament to the lie that Islam is a peaceful religion. How many people have to die, how many cultures have to be annihilated, how many people have to be enslaved, thrown off rooftops, stoned to death, humiliated, and murdered before the self-righteous name callers see how wrong they’ve been. Why don’t they believe what Muslims themselves say instead of blaming every horror inspired by Islam on everything except Islam and the Muslims who believe it?
These apologists for Islam only have one motive for denying reality. Because they hate White/European culture and Muslims hate it more than any other group. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This forms the beginning, middle and end of their beliefs and actions and they don’t care about the victims of their perverse, self indulgent identification with evil.
Sam says
YES. That is it. Liberals and muslims hate America and what it represents. FREEDOM.
IanB says
They hate anyone who disagrees with their perverse ideologies.
I wonder about leftists says
atamaskan hatta atamahe,don’t know if I write it right, but it is suppose to mean (from the koran): “I must look and show poverty and misery, until I become powerfull !” Even if the Arabic is not rightly written, the translation on itself is really how they behave. We have to keep on writing. I read somewhere that this all has to do with the NWO, New World Order. The Bilderderg groups with the UN had already decided, and later together with the Bancs, Red Shields, etc (Zionists) a long time ago that there had to become 8 mini Kingdoms in the world, and they would rule them, but first there had to be much more less people in the world, and that should be done by climate disasters, which they could make those themselves, and by big wars with the muslims, so a lot of people would die, all the people who are freeloading and are the eaters have to go, then they could put people in Fema camps, give them bad food and no money at all, so they would be all penniless and dependent on those people of the groups.
It was too lon to write about, but very interesting. I came on it by accident, but when I find the name of the video, I will write it down, but I understood it well, they have used the Muslims to fight the wars, but what a mess it is and yet another muslim comes back from Jihad in a spread bed and will be pampered.
What the leftists have done to us, is really so bad. They could have stopped all killing and raping etc. from the beginning, but they did not. We have to keep our faith and stay strong mentally.
Benedict says
“Father of Islamic State jihadi says his son was “radicalized” on Twitter“ –
That sounds plausible. Recitations from the Koran will soon be seen and heard everywhere.
Sarah says
If I had my way, they would let Shabazza Wazza Wang Wong back into the UK – where he so desperately wants to return to.
And then the authorities would throw him in a black site cell for the remainder of his life. Don’t execute him. Don’t let him think he’s getting his martyrdom and therefore, his virgins and his land of milk and honey eternity. Throw him in a nightmare and literally work him to death. Just make it take 60 years.
And then gather up his father – and any other family member who is making excuses for the scumbag and offer them the choice. Immediate deportation with full confiscation of all funds and assets and a permanent ban with ever entering any Western nation on the planet for any reason whatsoever. Or the death penalty – which is to be carried out without delay.
This little animal has spent his whole life living in a Muslim household where his father clearly is the atypical strict Muslim parent who controls his every move. (Ban him from having a cell phone, indeed). This idiot would have been teetering on the knife edge of so-called ‘radicalization’ his entire life. The tipping point was simply getting in touch with Muslims who unlike his complacent and cowardly father, were happy to encourage Shabbazza Wazza Wing Wong to go and die for his faith.
Make him work til he sobs uncontrollably and his hands and feet bleed. Then rinse and repeat the next day. And keep going til he’s old and gray. Get some use out of the animal. He can build and repair roadways, for instance.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Harsh consequences are good without a doubt, but it might be that going so far as described would actually give people a good reason to hate us. And they would be right to, i think.
I’d rather have jihadis hating us for being better than them, than worse. If they hate us when we do great wrong, their actions become just, even to moderates.
Sarah says
You’re probably absolutely right, Left 🙂
But honestly – they’re going to hate us, no matter what. By having them hate us for what we believe are justifiable reasons over things like cruelty and harsh punishments only serves to provide us with moral comfort. Hate is hate is hate – it won’t change them.
For all the arguments that are bandied about today, about why the Muslim world hates the big bad West and blames the West for literally everything that is wrong in their universe; there are arguments, evidence and facts to prove contrary. Yet it doesn’t change a thing about the constant moaning regarding ‘Western intervention’.
The thing is – I do not view this idiot, or his supporters, as a human being who is deserving of the same rights, freedoms, opportunities and privileges as others. He deliberately discarded those rights and freedoms etc etc – when he ditched the West and jumped on board with ISIS. We are fools to welcome him back and just hand him back over – all the things he deliberately threw away initially. Especially given that he threw them all away for the chance to turn around and stab us all in the back, both figuratively and literally.
Maybe that makes me a terrible human being. I’m at peace with it, though. And what I have proposed is not that much different to how traitors and convicts were treated across the human race, in almost every civilization – up until just very very recently, historically speaking. Its not an out of the blue, left of centre notion – to punish with a fat dose of vengeance attached.
Anne Smith says
Yes, some good ideas here. Unfortunately what is far more likely to happen is that he will be allowed to waltz back into Britain where our stupid left wing Government, led by arch dhimmi Teresa May, will present him with the keys to a brand new fully furnished Council house and a lifetime of welfare benefits.
This is the ridiculous plan being hatched by our Government under the code name of Operation Constrain which they hope will convince these poor misled jihadis to abstain from violence and become normal citizens once again. We have over 8,000 veterans and ex servicemen sleeping rough on the streets and yet our disastrous Government, rather than take care of those who have fought for us, is proposing to lavish the accommodation and benefits which should be spent on them, on the returning participants of the ISIS unbridled blood lust and savagery, as if that will somehow change their philosophy.
I cannot imagine why the taxpayers are not rising up in fury and marching against our pathetic excuse for a Government, except possibly the new “hate crime” laws have frightened the life out of most people who are now keeping their heads down and hoping for the best.
LeftisruiningCanada says
” Why wasn’t the “moderate” Islam he supposedly learned from kind old Afzal sufficient to withstand the blandishments of the sinister Twitter hijackers of Islam?”
That’s a good question. Probably won’t be much of talking point on whatever passes for informed discussion on UK TV though…..
Part of the answer, it seems to me, is given in a slight paraphrase of a tshirt i saw on a Rebel TV video. The original read “A communist is just a Socialist who really means it”.
Our version would go “A Jihadi is just a mulsim who really means it”
LeftisruiningCanada says
*muslim, obviously!
HN says
Any person traveling to fight in any shari’a islamic war zone should have their citizenry revoked with no right to return.
No ifs, ands, or but, but but “I’m just a fuzzy little peace-lover”
No right to return!