“Instead, Hussein travelled with university student Zubair Nur, who was then 19, a former deputy head boy at a prestigious Church of England school.”
You can be sure that no one at that “prestigious Church of England school” ever tried to change Zubair Nur’s way of thinking. To have done so would have been “Islamophobic.”
This story claims that Nur “had fallen under Hussein’s influence” and so turned to jihad. So who influenced Hussein? Has anyone investigated the mosque these young Muslims attended? Why not?
“Isis fighter revealed as Londoner who left UK three years ago,” by Zoe Drewett, Metro.co.uk, October 24, 2017:
An Islamic State fighter who appeared in a propaganda video threatening Donald Trump has been outed as a Londoner.
Ibrahim Hussein left the UK three years before the video emerged as part of a cell of teenagers in the capital.
In the video – believed to have been filmed in Raqqa a few weeks before its liberation – the jihadi fighter from south London warned of a ‘wave of new terror attacks’ on Italy and Turkey.
Speaking directly to the camera, he said: ‘We will slaughter you in your own houses.’
He then went on to target the US President, saying: ‘This is a message to the new pharaoh of today, Donald Trump.’
‘You might have your eyes on Raqqa and Mosul but we have our eyes on Constantinople and Rome.’
The terrorist fighter is suspected of leading a cell of British youngsters who travelled from London to Raqqa together in 2014.
He vanished after failing to turn up to play football with friends one day.
One friend – who asked to remain anonymous – told ITV News: ‘He messaged the team saying “Brothers if you don’t see me in paradise ask for me”.
‘Then he left the group. At the time we didn’t think much of it. We just thought he couldn’t make it.’
Instead, Hussein travelled with university student Zubair Nur, who was then 19, a former deputy head boy at a prestigious Church of England school.
A friend of both men said Nur had fallen under Hussein’s influence.
‘Hussein had this art of speech. He sounds like one of those retired NFL coaches who give motivational speeches.
‘We had a group of kids in our class and he was the ringleader. He was always orchestrating chaos.’…
Guest says
Evil can come from the most unlikely of places
gravenimage says
I don’t think this school created this evil–it just failed to notice it. Unfortunately, this is all too common.
frank day says
Don’t you think the faculty of that prestige Church of England school were rather remiss in their guidance?
gravenimage says
Of course they were, Frank.
On the other hand, it would have been difficult to instill decent values and decency in this Muslim even if the school had tried, since he was probably already learning Jihad at home, in his “community”, and at the Mosque.
balam says
Islam is the main source of all evil.
Jak says
Wait I see it in the distance There “why that could have been my son”
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
All the Church of England does is prattle on about how upright and civilized Islam is, and recites the Qur’an in place of the Scriptures in their services.
I am not surprised. The Church of England is effectively a hotbed for jihad terror.
gravenimage says
There *are* those in The Church of England who oppose Islam, as this poster well knows.
But whenever he can slam Catholicism or Protestantism, he does so–while ignoring dhimmitude in the Orthodox Church. He is more intent on this than on actually opposing Jihad terror.
The fact is that this sort of clulessness and dhimmitude is sadly widespread in many Christian denominations.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I am extremely sad to share that this cluelessness extends beyond Christians. Numerous previously honored and respected friends have declared their suicidal commitment to the “religion of peace” lie. I have left their company with sadness for the loss of their fellowship and for their utter ignorance. It is better to move on to other circles where minds are still thinking.
gravenimage says
Oh, I absolutely agree, Frank. You find this kind of cluelessness from many Jewish people, Agnostics, and Atheists.
It permeates Western societies.
I live in the bluest-of-blue states, in the San Francisco bay area. Most of my neighbors are lovely people, but are willfully naive about Muslims. The idea that Islam could be a threat just does not fit their view of the world, and no amount of mounting evidence is apt to change their minds.
Frank Anderson says
One of the few people I know who has spent as many years studying in classrooms as I have, utterly refused to follow the Jewish teaching, “ASK ALL questions repeatedly because every time an answer is found, it is imperfect.” He made his mind closed based on lies he was told more or less 40 years earlier, and continues to accept those lies.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim who attended prestigious Church of England school travels to Syria, joins the Islamic State
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So much for the idea–even voiced here at Jihad Watch, on occasion–that all that is needed to counter Jihad is a good Western education…
mortimer says
gravenimage is correct. Muslims do NOT assume that anything Western is BETTER, because of their extreme brainwashing and ingrained SUPREMACISM. How can anyone top ALLAH, because ALLAH IS SUFFICIENT. Allah overrules science, philosophy, logic, critical thought, democracy, human rights, medicine, and the basic human power of observation. A Muslim learns NOT to see what is clearly in his sight RIGHT BEFORE HIM. This selective perception of reality is automatic and cancels out any obvious superiority that Muslims see in the West. But Muslims can only maintain this cognitive dissonance for so long! It can and does crack eventually… that’s why 35% of Muslims are non-practicing and 5% are atheists even in Soddy Barbaria.
It requires POLEMICS (political controversial argumentation) to demolish Islam as a CREDIBLE ideology. Once the POLEMICS have entered the mind of the Muslim fanatic, it still takes YEARS for this to erode the ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the Muslim has about Islam. Eventually, after exposure to POLEMICS for many years, Muslims eventually realize that they have REPEATEDLY been fed inconclusive circular arguments and obvious falsehoods such as the sun setting in a muddy spring!
Robert Spencer is on the money when he asks if ANYONE tries to dissuade Muslims from JIHAD? Western INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES must IMMEDIATELY begin to do this VERY DANGEROUS WORK of deprogramming Muslims ABSOLUTELY right out of Islam. For a start, the following 42 video series should be translated into Urdu, Indonesian, Russian and French.
A Box of Islam – Was there a real prophet named Mohammed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZH8gQSYoo&list=PLVgxTVb0qbJO4VF7CXROHvZcqDftk5TQV&index=5
gravenimage says
Mortimer, how do you know that after being exposed to Infidel doubt about Islam that Muslims eventually become apostates? Do you have any actual data on this?
Moreover, even if you were correct, that this process supposedly *takes years* means that we would still be exposed to the threat of Jihad for years at a time, from each Muslim.
Also, there is no reason for Muslims to pay attention to what those they regard as the “filthy Infidels” in the first place.
balam says
These Muslim Jihadis should never be allowed back in Britain. Their families should also be expelled .You can never expect loyalty from the SNAKES.
Emilie Green says
“To have done so would have been “Islamophobic.”
But it would have been in comportment with the Lord’s Great Commission.
All this welfare and good educations being given to these Muslims in the West is a waste. It is the casting of pearls before swine.
Matthew 7:6: “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”
Time after time Muslims turn on us. Will we ever learn?
mortimer says
They filter out all Western or Christian teachings by assuring themselves that, while what they learn is nice and reasonable and compassionate, nevertheless, Islam may be irrational, vicious and exploitative, but it is still ‘BETTER’ than anything from the ‘corrupted’ KAFIRS who do not deserve to live.
I wonder about leftists says
The truth’s in the world are slowly coming to the surface and we can see, whom is whom.
The Catholics,Christianity and many, almost all religions have fallen apart and in reality may be never existed anyway. That is how it was was written and it became true, like everything will play out and we will see the horrible truth and we will see that nothing ever was true. For some people a horrible discovery, but for some, who knew this already not. It will all come out, and for some people really not nice at all.
gravenimage says
“…we will see the horrible truth and we will see that nothing ever was true…”
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I don’t believe you can take a real stand against Islam if you are a nihilist. Why fight against evil if you believe that nothing is good?
I think it is important for us to defend our civilized values against the horrors of Islam.
How can you really believe that there is no difference between goodness and the savagery of Islam?
Georg says
I haven’t seen eyes like those since university classes on Islam and the Near East.
Ren says
Let him die with the collapse of ISIS. Good riddance.
maghan says
Another stupid and degenerate black slave of Arab Islam. Darwin will sort him out soon. He attending that school was like casting pearls before swine
11B40 says
Greetings:
You can lead a camel to water but you can’t make him drink.
Jayell says
The Church of England is Her Majesty’s ‘Department of God’ so any organisation linked to it will just follow the Government line. I would bet that the school even took the crucifixes off the classroom walls and took pork off the menu so as not to upset our friend here. I notice that they made him ‘Deputy Head Boy’ – well, you’ve got to do that with our Islamic friends just to show how much they’re appreciated rather like you make them Mayor of your capital city for no good reason. However, please don’t refer to him as a ‘Londoner’, Mr. Spencer. He deserves that title just as much as a bubonic plague virus found in a stable deserves to be called a ‘horse’. By the way, have they managed to shoot him yet? They do that with horses that are beyond cure – just so long as he doesn’t end up my nice little cat’s food.
gravenimage says
Jayell, Robert Spencer is not calling him a “Londoner”–that is Metro.co.
And like you, I wonder if it was “political correctness” that led to this future Jihadist being named Deputy Head Boy.
Jayell says
My apologies to Mr. Spencer! It wasn’t very clear on a quick read-through who was saying what, and I know Mr. Spencer has more sense! Due to PC pressures persons who are (a) non-male and (b) non-indigenous are being very, very obviously over-promoted to the extent that they are now becoming seriously offensive in what they say and do. They will publicly utter all sorts of ignorant, illogical (and even criminal!) inaninities as they are given the confidence to push themselves, and it’s reached the point where they will make it glaringly obvious thst they have no respect for anything British and are out to destroy UK history, culture and institutions. Just look at the UK media these days to see the oroof! The hero of this story – who seems to have been given everything on a plate – is symptomatic of this.
gravenimage says
Not all women are as unqualified for any position as you appear to believe. Do your really consider women in the same category as those who embrace an ideology dedicated to destroying us all?
Certainly, there are unqualified women promoted above their capabilities–but you find this with men, as well.
R Russell says
A few thoughts come to mind.
1. UK Government says jihadis in Syria need to be killed instead of being allowed to return. Sense prevails at last.
2. This proves the old adage that living in a garage doesn’t make you a car.
3. Did the CofE grant a special prayer room and release from classes so he could infest their school with demons? Probably for it seems the CofE doesn’t believe in the supernatural any more.
gravenimage says
1. UK Government says jihadis in Syria need to be killed instead of being allowed to return. Sense prevails at last.
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Not quite, I’m afraid:
“UK minister: ‘Only way of dealing’ with ISIS jihadis ‘will be, in almost every case, to kill them'”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/uk-minister-only-way-of-dealing-with-isis-jihadis-will-be-in-almost-every-case-to-kill-them
Kudos to Minister Rory Stewart. He is not the entire UK government, though–and I sadly doubt that this presents official British policy. I wish it did.
nicholas tesdorf says
With any luck, he may not be coming back from Syria, except in a body bag..
FYI says
Then he must have heard about God’s Commandments if he went to such a school but I guess the call of allah,the commandment-violating ,antichristian,antiSemitic god of hate who rewards the evil doers in paradise is just too attractive to the ignorant and the stupid.
So off they go to serve their god allah with his evil army of godless heathen,isis.
gravenimage says
He may not have heard about God’s commandments. Often non-Christian children are excused from chapel at parochial schools.
John Forbes says
Christianity has become very timid & refuses to stand up even for Christianity or Christians being killed in the Middle East !
When the Archbishop of Cantebury recommends that MUSLIMS in the UK be given the right to have SHARIA courts & then an ARCH BISHOP after the MANCHESTER BOMBING comes out WITH WE MAY NEVER KNOW – it is CLEAR the CHRISTIANS have failed to LISTEN , MISSED the HATE PREACHING or are JUST TOO FRIGHTENED to SAY !
I suspect FRIGHTENED to SAY ANYTHING !!!