“The communities of Cumbria expect officers and staff to act on their behalf with integrity, fairness and judgement. The trust of local communities, particularly minority groups, is hard won and easily lost.”
Very well. But would Ross Lister have been fired for remarks that Jews would consider offensive? Would he have been fired for remarks that Christians would consider offensive? Or is this still more Sharia-compliance in Britain?
Meanwhile, with jihad attacks becoming ever more frequent in the UK and the West in general, why is it incumbent upon the police to work to win the trust of Muslim communities, while Muslim communities have no responsibility to work to win the trust of police?
“Sacked Barrow police officer’s Facebook post ‘was offensive towards Muslims,'” by Amy Fenton, North-West Evening Mail, October 6, 2017 (thanks to Lookmann):
A SERVING Barrow PC who was dismissed from Cumbria police made a Facebook post which was likely to cause offence to members of the Muslim faith, a misconduct report has revealed.
Ross Lister was a serving PC in the town but was dismissed following a Misconduct Special Case Hearing held on September 27 at Cumbria Constabulary headquarters.
Details of the comment were not made public while the Crown Prosecution Service considered whether Mr Lister should be charged with an offence of posting malicious communications.
Yesterday, prosecutors announced that “the comment made on social media does not meet the very high threshold necessary for a criminal prosecution” following a further review of the evidence.
Cumbria police’s Chief Constable Jerry Graham’s deliberation in deciding to sack Mr Lister has now been made public.
At last week’s hearing, the chief constable said: “The conduct admitted by PC Lister today is not suggesting that he is racist, per se, but refers to a Facebook post that he wrote that he either knew or should have known, or at least reasonably have foreseen, would have caused offence and be considered derogatory to members of the Muslim faith and by people of other faiths and none.
“By posting such a comment on Facebook he should have known that he could not control its readership.
“Although this conduct occurred off duty, PC Lister was, or should have been, aware that the Code of Ethics applies at all times and in all circumstances to police officers. I note that within the bundle PC Lister has been given an input on the Code of Ethics as recently as 2017.
“The communities of Cumbria expect officers and staff to act on their behalf with integrity, fairness and judgement. The trust of local communities, particularly minority groups, is hard won and easily lost….
Expat88 says
Islam is not a race. How many times do people need to be reminded of that?
mortimer says
MUSLIMS ARE IN UK TO GAIN POLITICAL DOMINANCE OVER BRITISH PEOPLE.
Islam is a POLITICAL Ideology that has DECLARED WAR against EVERY non-Islamic culture and country.
“In the Muslim community, the HOLY WAR IS A RELIGIOUS DUTY, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by PERUASION OR BY FORCE… The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense… Islam is under OBLIGATION to GAIN POWER over other nations.”
– Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406), jurist, renowned philosopher, historian, and sociologist. Summary of five centuries of Islamic consensus from Muslim jurisprudence with regard to the uniquely Islamic institution of jihad and its goal of world dominance.
^-Bukhari:V4B52N44 “A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘Instruct me as to SUCH A DEED as EQUALS JIHAD in REWARD.’ He replied, ‘I do not find such a deed.'”
John Forbes says
CORRECT BUT the BRITISH GOVERNMENT – already heavily infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood & further compromised by Islamic Finance & Plane & arms deals has already GIVEN IN TO SHARIA but has yet to inform the PUBLIC !
To smooth this nasty fact it is DEMANDED of the public that they believe LIES : ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE & VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.
THE PUBLIC ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE A HUGE FUSS OF THE FACT THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE REGULARLY BEATEN , RAPED , TRAFFICKED & PROSTITUTED BY GROUPS OF MUSLIM MEN AS WELL — STAT QUIET !
POLITICIANS WHO INFORM ABOUT THE CONTINUAL CHILD RAPING WILL ALSO BE DISMISSED !
Bob says
Agreed, Mortimer, and clearly the UK police’re well and truly dominated!
JawsV says
We can’t know the comment? How Orwellian. People “disappear” and you can’t know why. UK is nuts.
Michael Copeland says
A man in UK, Darren Conway, who put some sort of Islam-critical material in the window of his ground floor flat was imprisoned for a year in 2012.
A Freedom of Information request made subsequently to find out what was shown was refused as being “not in the public interest”.
UK has been Kafkaesque for some time.
https://counterjihadreport.com/tag/darren-conway/?iframe=true&preview=true/feed/
Winston says
I’m on my way to the supermarket to buy some Stones Bitter before it gets taken off the shelves.
gravenimage says
UK: Police officer fired for Facebook post that was “offensive towards Muslims”
…………………….
This is becoming more Orwellian all the time.
Michael Copeland says
Muslim demonstrations, and placards, proclaiming “British Police Go To Hell” are absolutely fine.
See “Get the Message?” at Liberty GB:
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/get-message
gravenimage says
Yes–preaching Jihad is fine in today’s Britain. Opposing it gets you fired or barred from entering the country. Suicidal madness.
Richard says
“…while Muslim communities have no responsibility to work to win the trust of police?” OR THE REST OF US.
mummymovie says
Pat Condell: “I’m offended by Islam”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlO7DLC6p8
gravenimage says
+1
Georg says
“The communities of Cumbria expect officers and staff to act on their behalf with integrity, fairness and judgement.”
Well, apparently in Bradford it is a different story. MP Naz Shah liked *and* re-tweeted a post calling for rape victims (disproportionately underage and of British ethnicity) of mostly Pakistani “grooming gangs” to “…shut their mouths. For the good of diversity.”
She remains in office. Rumor has it she has had a heart attack in Pakistan and so perhaps the children of Britain are that much safer in the meantime. But she is manifestly a threat to ethnically British girls sought after for rape and molestation by males who share their ethnicity with her beloved Pakistan.
PaulM says
AMAZING. These islamist, muslim scumbags can maim, torture, kill, rape tens upon tens of Brits. What happens? Not a damn thing. Even the majority of Brits are sitting on their hands whining, “woe is me”, “oh dear me, what can we do?” How about getting off your cowardly, sniveling asses and at least try to protect you children? Just the children…that’s all. But let this one fine upstanding police man say a few words and the elitists scumbags and courts that run Britain vilify him to the ends of the earth. What a nation of cowards and losers and pussies. Man up for shit’s sake. Get a petition going to have Pat Condell run for the Prime Minister’s job. He has more balls and more backbone than every male in England combined.
mortimer says
BRITISH TRUTHOPHOBE IGNORE THE REALITY OF THE SURVEYS:
A 615-page survey “What British Muslims Really Think” conducted by ICM Research for the Channel 4 documentary : https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey
– more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts.
– only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.
– 66% of Muslims in UK WOULD NOT CALL POLICE ABOUT JIHADISTS
– 23% of British Muslims said Islamic Sharia law should replace British law
– 35% think it is acceptable to have more than one wife among 18-24-year-olds
– 33% of British Muslims refuse completely to condemn the stoning of women accused of adultery
– 66% of British Muslim endorse stoning
– 4% the equivalent of more than 100,000 British Muslims — told the researchers that they had sympathy for people who take part in suicide bombing to fight injustice
Michael Copeland says
The survey material is revealing and interesting, but ultimately muslims have no choice:
The Muslim community “possesses no power except to acknowledge and obey”,
Ruling (fatwa) by Dr Salah al-Sawy,
Secretary-General of Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA).
The fatwa cited Koran 33:36
“It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision.”
The Koran is part of Islamic law.
Troybeam says
This is how it goes: Muslims can hold signs that state :”Behead those that speak against Islam” and nothing is done in terms of the threatening sign ie: court, jail etc…
yet any one else speaks the truth about Islam AND they get arrested, sued, fired etc.
This people in sharia law is Muslims having power over non Muslims, everything in sharia is geared to give Islam the upper hand so I am suggesting you wake up, wise up and make a stand for our Constitution because Islam here in America is becoming a lot like England.
Halal Bacon says
This citizen of the United Kingdom has some words…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBKvZT-tHRk
Ciudadano says
What was the comment? Muslims are so easily offended … He should’ve offended Christians, he would’ve got a rise.
Green infidel says
What was the comment?!
Jack Diamond says
To repeat the comment would require having to fire whoever repeats it, lol.
This is how kangaroo courts work in Muslim countries when it comes to charges of blasphemy or insulting Islam. No one can, of course, repeat what was said lest they be blasphemers too. You just have to take their word for it, the guy said something “really bad.”
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Jack.
MFritz says
Saying the truth will get you fired in the UK in 2017.
Laura says
A, more than likely, good bobby sacked for cracking a muslim joke, or perhaps saying something completely true about the ‘religion of peace.’
Dizzy ringo says
Why do the authorities think that the general population is incapable of distinguishing between unacceptable language and the truth?
BC says
This happens over and over again, when are people going to recognise that putting things on social media
and especially Farcebook (sic) is the equivalent of standing on a roof and shouting it out. Anybody who does not see that is basically mentally challenged, or in common parlance plain stupid.
UNCLE VLADDI says
You do realize that cops must actually FAIL intelligence tests in order to be hired these days, right? I’m not being sarcastic or making this up! The rationale is if they are too smart they become disillusioned or bored and quit, thus wasting the oodles of money spent on their indoctrination – er, I mean diversity “training!”
gravenimage says
In other words, BC, you are condoning British authorities sickening crushing of freedom of speech, and berating the victim? Why?
Mark A says
I would really like to know what this Facebook post actually said.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Lying hypocrites! What they really meant to say, was:
“The communities of Cumbria expect to fire officers and staff who act on their behalf with integrity, fairness and judgement. The graft from local crime-gangs, particularly muslim groups, is hard won and easily lost. Honesty will not be tolerated – CAPISCE?!”
There! Fixed it for them!
😉
tgusa says
Don’t stop there coppers, go all the way!
Do any of the uk police drink beer? If so they need to quit right now so as not to offend muslims.
Do any of the uk police own dogs? If so they need to get rid of them so as not to offend muslims.
Do any of the uk police have mothers, wives , sisters or daughters? If so they need to make sure their behavior does not offend muslims.
Do any uk police live outside of muslim no go zones? If so they need to relocate to those zones as non-muslims find their behavior offensive.
Are any of the uk police non-muslim? If so they need to off themselves so as not to offend muslims.
gravenimage says
This is the way Britain is heading…
tgusa says
They are on the proverbial slippery slope, that is for sure. Remind me again why we fought a costly war against a totalitarian ideology in Europe way back when? I don’t feel we have received a reasonable return on our investment.
nicholas tesdorf says
The authorities like to appease Muslims and comply with Sharia Law and their demands as Muslims are violent, irrational, dangerous and aggressive. By contrast Jews, Christians. Buddhists, Sikhs and all other religions are quiet, polite, respectful and considerate and therefore get no special attention from authority.
ctlawson says
I am not one for the Police ,But for this instance I am in favour of him being reinstated , and that to lose His job has a police officer was wrong ,
Wakeup says
I got suspended from work for quoting the koran.