Just as in the UK and Germany, the focus is more on accustoming people to a permanent state of war than to dealing with the root causes of jihad terror.
Former police chief Ken Lay reviewed Victoria’s counter-terrorism laws and “said more work was needed to understand the effects Islamophobia has had on the Muslim community.”
Lay did not recommend any work to understand the effects of Islam’s jihad doctrine on the Muslim community.
Why not?
Because that in itself would be “Islamophobic.” In this war, understand the enemy has been stigmatized as “bigotry.” Read about this odd phenomenon and its dangers in my new book Confessions of an Islamophobe. Order your copy here.
“Victoria plans terror law changes as Melbourne’s CBD gets permanent bollards and planters,” ABC.net.au, November 19, 2017 (thanks to Jill):
Children as young as 14 could be held for questioning by Victorian police under proposed law changes, as the Victorian Government responds to a review of the state’s counter-terrorism measures.
The Victorian Government has also revealed new permanent security features are being built in Melbourne’s CBD to prevent terrorist attacks, as part of a $10 million CBD upgrade.
Under the law changes announced this morning, the use of Preventative Detention Orders — when a person is detained without charge, because of fears of an imminent threat — will be extended to 14-year-olds, down from the age of 16.
Suspects under 16 will be able to be held for 36 hours before police are required to apply for an order from the Supreme Court to detain them further.
Under changes announced earlier in the year, adults will be able to be held for up to four days.
Premier Daniel Andrews used the case of radicalised teenager Farhad Mohammad, who shot and killed NSW police accountant Curtis Cheng, to demonstrate why the laws were necessary.
“These are very real issues,” Mr Andrews said.
“We have seen … people as young as 14 posing a significant risk to community safety.
“It would be a terrible failure if to protect the notional civil liberties of a very small number of people we put at risk the safety of a much larger group of people. Indeed, potentially tens of thousands of people.”
The changes were recommended by former police chief Ken Lay and former Supreme Court justice David Harper, who reviewed Victoria’s counter-terrorism laws after a deadly siege in Brighton earlier this year.
It was the second report from the pair and included 26 recommendations in total. The Andrews Government said it accepted all 26 in principle.
Other recommendations include:
Enabling the Police Commissioner to apply for court orders to force people to take part in “disengagement programs” if they display radical or violent behaviour
Talking to the Commonwealth and other states about removing motive as an essential element of the definition of a terrorist act
Working with federal authorities to introduce a new offence for possession of terrorism-related material
Seeking agreement with other states for a national post-sentence supervision scheme for high-risk offendersThe first report, released in September, recommended police be given stronger shoot-to-kill protections.
Mr Lay said the second report also looked at dealing with left and right-wing extremism.
“As we all understand, there’s been a real focus on Islamic extremism in recent times, but the [review] panel saw a gap in the right and left-wing space,” he said.
“To properly protect the community and understand the risks, research needs to be done in that space.”
Mr Lay said more work was needed to understand the effects Islamophobia has had on the Muslim community….
Benedict says
– Australia: Victoria installs permanent anti-jihad bollards disguised as planters, set to study “Islamophobia” –
I suspect the Jihadies will rise to the occasion, but of cause I could be wrong.
mortimer says
Agree with Benedict. The jihadists will definitely rise to the occasion no matter what countermeasures are implemented. They ‘love death’.
HOWEVER, the Victoria state government should be congratulated on recognizing that they must ATTACK THE IDEOLOGY that leads boys of 14 to become jihadists.
Quote: “Enabling the Police Commissioner to apply for court orders to force people to take part in “disengagement programs” if they display radical or violent behaviour,’
In response to that beginning, I say that a complete deprogramming of people right out of Islam is the only sure way to stop JIHAD, since JIHAD is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Salome says
You clearly haven’t met the Victorian government. It’s more interested in teaching little boys that they are really girls and little girls that they are really boys and everyone that reliable and affordable electricity are a planet-destroying luxury than it would be in doing or saying anything that might make Muslims feel less than completely welcome and thoroughly superior to the rest of us.
Benedict says
Salome, I can second you from my part of the world. While governments here are also intensely occupied with turning boys into girls and girls into boys through subtle propaganda and obligatory mixing of the sexes in the military etc., and the Fertility Clinics are busy providing information about artificial insemination, an army of savage soldiers is rearming *their* boys for warfare against Europe while *their* women “breed like mosquitoes”. In one or two generations The Gates of Vienna will be a railway station in the northern part of Greenland.
John Forbes says
AUSTRALIA LIKES TO BE KNOWN AS THE LUCKY COUNTRY BUT THEY ARE FAST TRYING TO BE THE STUPID COUNTRY!
UTTER DETERMINATION TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AS THE UK & THE EUROPEANS ALL THE WHILE SAYING THAT THEIR MULTICULTURALISM IS DIFFERENT & WORKS.
IDIOTS ALL!
THEY ARE ALSO IN THE HABIT OF DRAGGING OUT THE “MENTAL ” ILLNESS EXCUSE AT THE DROP OF A HAT FOLLOWED BY THE ISLAMOPHOBIA & RACIST CARDS !!
Papa Whiskey says
This isn’t really anything new. Concrete barriers were emplaced around many a federal building in the wake of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Good point about prioritizing study of the effects of “Islamophobia” over those of Jihad doctrine, though.
gravenimage says
Papa Whiskey, the main threat–and the reason for this explosion (pun intended) of barriers now is due to Muslim bombs and vehicular Jihad–not to due to leftover fears of Timothy McVeigh.
Dan says
If this isn’t cliche “Treating the symptoms and not the disease” I don’t know what is.
Benedict says
Bollards are the gifts of Islam to Europe given in order to cement diversity.
mortimer says
I like that: “CEMENTING diversity”. 😉
gravenimage says
Good one.
Vyx says
If you are at a “permanent state of war” you will have to use extreme measures that infringe on the rights of individuals. Measures that could be called “totalitarian.”
Example: In the U.S., little old ladies in wheel chairs and old men with colostomy bags are pretty much being molested by Muslim TSA agents.
It’s like the governments have brought in Muslims on purpose to create this situation and oppress the taxpayers.
gravenimage says
That would not explain how many ordinary citizens cling to the idea that Muslim invaders are just “needy refugees”.
The truth is that denial of the threat of Islam is rife in the West.
Guest says
They’ll be installing them in New York next
gravenimage says
Guest, for the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade there were city dumptrucks filled with sand on all the side streets to prevent Jihad attacks. The same is true with the Times Square New Year’s celebration. So this is already happening in New York.
We watched the parade on Thanksgiving, and there was specific reference to the Vehicular Jihad attack on Hallowe’en.
Monty says
Deprogramming Muslims is an exercise in futility. We need to remove Muslims from Australia full stop. That is the only way we can stop the rot. It will be expensive. I’m a pensioner but I’d chip in $1,000 to send a Muslim back to where he came from.
gravenimage says
Yes–deport them back to Dar-al-Islam.
dumbledoresarmy says
YES.
And I think it’s reached the point where all of us who have come to that conclusion – which is based on observation of the flaming obvious, “Got Muslims? Got JIhad” – must be telling our politicians, notably those responsible for Defence and those responsible for Immigration, exactly that.
Let them know, loud and clear, that we are sick and tired of playing the deadly game of “Muslim Roulette”.
Sog says
They do need to study islamophobia. It would be very worthwhile to study outbound Islamophobia even more so than inbound islamophobia. Death counts alone show the relative devastation of outbound Islamophobiia as compared to inbound Islamophobia. We should want to discuss Islamophobia so long as we’re talking about the Islamophobia coming from Is!am itself instead of only seeing Islamophobia as a criticism only attributable outside Islam.
gravenimage says
Australia: Victoria installs permanent anti-jihad bollards disguised as planters, set to study “Islamophobia”
………………………
Does this strike no one in Australia as ironic?
shoehorn says
Absolutely. It is the height of Islamophobia to deter Muslim motorists from worshipping Allah using ‘every stratagem of warfare’.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious, shoehorn.
Larry says
There is a very good reason Andrews often gets referred to as “Dickhead Dan”.
He’s a moron of the first water.
More Ham Ed says
If you disagree you have a “phobia” of some kind.
You also might be a “hater” & not be allowed to speak freely in your own country.
You certainly are not allowed to eat ham sandwiches.
Qedlin Saltum says
The “religion of peace” should be willing to pay to protect the peace.
Shirley says
Dopey Dan Andrews and the Communist State of Victoria investigating NOT THE CAUSE but ”Islamophobia”……..
DARE one hope that they REALLY DO investigate and come to the conclusion that ordinary Australians are merely questioning the logic of a cult that requires their followers ”to create fear in the infidels”??
THEN will they start to investigate the elephant in the room and delve deeply into researching islam itself?? I doubt it very much, they will continue to tell us to ”accept” this new way of living and install more bollards to ”protect” us from the mentally deranged cult…..
SAM says
Future generations will not understand and believe why we were so stupid against blatant danger of Islam against humanity
Lydia says
With this level of stupidity, there won’t be any future generations.
Lawrence Davis says
But we will always have Kylie Minogue!
F J says
Hey you all ..The bollards came about AFTER a deranged NON muslim with a mental condition ran amuck in a vehicle and police “dumbly” allowed it to run as the ‘ superiors’ ordered no intervention. But it does show Australian police are as hamstrung as any other in doing the real job of policing and keeping the peace…… Successful test that incompetence has been systemized here too. Ready for the next step of degrading humanity in another country……Come Yeshua come.!
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