John Hamed, Jr.’s letter criticizing a previous correspondent’s assertions about Islam first made the point that the Qur’an is full of references to “love” and “mercy” and “peace,” that where in the Qur’an violence appears, it was merely descriptive of what the early Muslims, suffering from the “relentless onslaught” of its enemies, were forced engage in to survive, that Islam teaches monotheism and “accepts the prophecies Moses and Jesus,” and that 7 million Muslims now live in America, “educated and middle-class,” and this part of his letter ends on a defiant note: “we are not going anywhere.”
He now proceeds both to backdate the presence of Muslims in America to many centuries before Columbus, and to claim that Muslims served important roles in Columbus’s voyages. He brings in, as his chief authority for the backdating, Dr. Barry Fell, to support the astonishing claims of his finding “the ruins of Muslim schools” in the American West:
Muslims have been here for a very long time. Dr. Barry Fell, an American historian, discovered the ruins of Muslim schools in Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Indiana dating back to 700 to 800 C.E. In 1492, Columbus had two captains for the Pinta and the Nina who were Muslim. Columbus and others later discovered ruins of mosques and minarets with inscriptions of Qu’ranic [sic] verses in Cuba, Mexico, Texas and Nevada. We can go on and on, but suffice to say, Islam was here even before there was a U.S.A. There are more than 500 places in the U.S. today with clearly Islamic names: Mecca, Indiana; Medina in New York, Ohio and Texas; Toledo, Ohio; Mahomet, Illinois; Islamorada, Florida; etc.
Let’s start with the reference to Dr. Barry Fell. He was not an historian, though John Hamed, Jr. describes him as “an American historian.” Nor was he a professional epigraphist, nor an archaeologist. He was a professor of invertebrate zoology, who concentrated on sea urchins and starfish. An amateur student of epigraphy, he claimed to have found evidence, all over America, of writings using the alphabets of many Old World peoples who, he said, had arrived in America many centuries before Columbus. These included Celts, Phoenicians, Libyans, Minoans, Basques, Carthaginians, Egyptians, Minoans, and Arabs. None of the well-regarded scholars of epigraphy, none of the archaeologists who specialized in the New World, found his work the least bit convincing. But they did not just reject it; many called Fell a crank, a loony, while others accused him, in print, of deliberate fraud, by which they meant that he created the rock inscriptions he claimed to have discovered. Some scholars wondered if he was trying through these sensational and baseless claims to win readers, and thus fame and some fortune, for his books, especially America B.C. Ancient Settlers in the New World.
But among Muslims, Barry Fell is not a crank, not a loony, not a fraud. He is presented as a respected authority, because of his claim of a Muslim Arab presence in America dating back to 700 or 800 A.D. That would be as far back as the first century of Islam. We are being asked to believe the bizarre claims of Barry Fell that he found “writings” in Arabic (and in ten other alphabets, including the Ogham of Old Irish, which was the major focus of his epigraphic studies) on rocks in the American Far West. He initially dated these (he does not tell us how) to between 700 and 800 A.D., later claiming that not only did he find inscriptions in Arabic, but also the ruins of mosques and madrasas. One other detail: Barry Fell did not know any Arabic. Here is how one Muslim, a certain “Dr.” Youssef Mroueh, described Fell’s claims:
Dr. Fell discovered the existence of the Muslim schools at Valley of Fire, Allan Springs, Logomarsino, Keyhole, Canyon, Washoe and Hickison Summit Pass (Nevada), Mesa Verde (Colorado), Mimbres Valley (New Mexico) and Tipper Canoe (Indiana) dating back to 700-800 CE. Engraved on rocks in the arid western U.S, he found texts, diagrams and charts representing the last surviving fragments of what was once a system of schools – at both an elementary and higher level. The language of instruction was North African Arabic written with old Kufic Arabic scripts. The subjects of instruction included writing, reading, arithmetic, religion, history, geography, mathematics, astronomy and sea navigation. The descendants of the Muslim visitors of North America are members of the present Iroquois, Algonquin, Anasazi, Hohokam and Olmec native people.
So not only did Muslim Arabs, according to Fell, arrive in the New World during Islam’s first century and somehow travel to the American West, but also had the ability to set up a whole system of schools, both for elementary and higher education. And they had the time to engrave on rocks not simple inscriptions, but copies of “texts, diagrams and charts” used in these schools, where a vast gamut of subjects, including history, geography, mathematics, astronomy, sea navigation, and so on — far more than would have been taught in schools at home — were all taught. Dr.Fell does not, however, mention religious studies. Does he think that any school for Muslims anywhere could exist without study of the faith?
All of this is fantasy.
Barry Fell did not know Arabic. He did know how to copy Arabic writing out of books, and could make inscriptions on rocks. Barry Fell made large claims, but his work has not been accepted as valid by professionals in the field. A survey of 340 teaching archaeologists in 1983 showed 95.7% had a completely “negative” view of Barry Fell’s claims (considering them pseudo-archaeology), 2.9% had a “neutral” view, and only 1.4% had a “positive” view (regarding them as factual). It is only his studies of writings in Ogham, the early Irish alphabet, that might explain that figure of 1.4%, for a handful of people thought he might actually have discovered real examples of writing in Ogham.
Fell has been accused of many things. Archeologists have been highly critical of Fell’s conclusions and methodology. As noted, the only area where he was deemed to have even the tiniest hint of possible credibility was in his study of Ogham, the Early Irish alphabet. Yet even here he was severely criticized. In a 1983 article, the archaeologist and historian W. Hunter Lesser described Fell’s claims for an Ogham inscription in West Virginia as “pseudoscientific and unreliable.” In 1989, lawyers Monroe Oppenheimer and Willard Wirtz wrote an article based on opinions of academic archaeologists and linguists to dispute that the inscription [in West Virginia] was written in Ogham script. They further accused Fell of deliberate fraud. David H. Kelley, an archaeologist at the University of Calgary who is credited with a major breakthrough in the deciphering of Mayan glyphs, complained about Fell in a 1990 essay: “Fell’s work [contains] major academic sins,” including “distortion of data.” Many have simply called him a crank, crazed, or a fraud. He was most likely all three.
Let’s understand what Barry Fell, and his uncritical admirer John Hamed, Jr., are claiming. In the first century after the death of Muhammad, Muslim Arabs were fully occupied in conquering Iraq (the first victim of Jihad warfare outside Arabia), and then the Sassanian Empire to the East, and Egypt to the West. And while doing this, not just conquering but subjugating peoples far more numerous than the Arabs themselves, they apparently had the ability, according to Barry Fell, even though they were a desert people without any seafaring experience, all of a sudden to be able to build vessels capable of crossing the Atlantic Ocean, and found experienced seagoing navigators (from where?) and maps (drawn by whom in 700 or 800 A.D.? The Muslim maps of Al-Idrissi (1099-1166) came several centuries later). Then we are expected to believe that these same Arab seafarers landed safely, somewhere on the coast of North America and, encountering no insuperable difficulties, managed to cross the Continent, and make it all the way to Colorado and Nevada. By what means of transportation did they make that journey? Did they travel on foot? Did they have horses or wagons? And how did they cross the Mississippi or other rivers? Did they have to scale the Rockies in Colorado, or did they stay to the east of that forbidding mountain range? Where did they get their food? Their water? What weapons did they possess? How did they avoid any trouble with the Indians whose paths they would have crossed? With what material did they build those “mosques and madrasas,” the ruins of which Barry Fell claims he found? Who were the students in those schools? Did Muslim women accompany men on these journeys? He never asked, much less answered, any of those questions.
John Hamed, Jr. then repeats the astonishing claim of Barry Fell that “the descendants of the Muslim visitors of North America are members of the present Iroquois, Algonquin, Anasazi, Hohokam and Olmec native people.” In other words, Muslim Arabs supposedly interbred with Indians all across America, from what is now northern New York State (Iroquois) to Colorado (Anasazi), and to southern Mexico (Olmecs). There is no evidence presented, linguistic or through DNA testing, by Barry Fell for this claim, but for John Hamed, Jr., no evidence is needed. The claim again places Muslims far back in pre-Columbian history, and even claims they intermarried with many different tribes of indigenous Indians.
John Hamed, Jr. appears not to know — why did he not bother to spend a minute googling in order to find out? — that almost all archaeologists completely rejected Barry Fell’s work as without merit, “negative,” pseudo-archaeology, and that he has further been accused of deliberate fraud by noted archaeologists, epigraphists, and historians. Others regarded him as “crazy,” and still others, as ‘“devious.” Not a single reputable scholar has endorsed any of Barry Fell’s claims about “Old World settlers” in the New World before Columbus. But for John Hamed, Jr., Barry Fell is a legitimate scholar of epigraphy in the New World, and his “evidence” somehow “proves” that Muslims were not only in the New World by 700 or 800 A.D., but were already building schools with a curriculum far broader than that in madrasas today. If Mr Hamed would like to read any of the scathing comments by epigraphists and archaeologists on Fell’s work, many of whom believe he was a fraud or “crazed,” he can find them here. Of course, if Hamed has a modicum of sense, he will cease to cite Barry Fell as an authority. It only invites, because it deserves, ridicule.
WorkingClassPost says
If this idiot knew anything about the islam that he says arrived in America so long ago, he would know that his ludicrous assertions are in fact very dangerous and provocative, because he adds USA to the list of lands that islam falsly claims as it’s own and valid to be ‘taken back’.
K2.191 ..kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out.
gravenimage says
Oh, John Hamed, Jr. knows all about that, WorkingClassPost–that is, indeed, his whole point. Despite his Infidel-sounding first name, he is the public relations officer of the Islamic Society of New Castle, Ohio.
This is exactly what he wants.
Here’s more on this vile Taqiyya artist, also by Hugh Fitzgerald:
“Hugh Fitzgerald: John Hamed, Jr. and the Misrepresentation of Islam”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/hugh-fitzgerald-john-hamed-jr-and-the-misrepresentation-of-islam
WorkingClassPost says
Thanks for that…there’s so many of them that I can’t remember all their names.
gravenimage says
I know how you feel…
Voytek Gagalka says
“There are more than 500 places in the U.S. today with clearly Islamic names: Mecca, Indiana; Medina in New York, Ohio and Texas; Toledo, Ohio; Mahomet, Illinois; Islamorada, Florida.”
And those names were created when exactly? During pre-Columbian era “dating back to 700 to 800 C.E”? Even leftist Wikipedia dates them near the end of 19th century. Hardly in “pre-Columbian” era.
gravenimage says
+1
Pere LaChaise says
This is even funnier than the crap in the Book of Mormon!
I read a bunch of stuff written in the 1920s about tunnels under Los Angeles and giants who built pyramids in the Arizona deserts.
In Edgar Allen Poe’s longest novel, the Narrative of A. Gordon Pym, the protagonist discovers colossal inscription in Ethiopian letters carved into islands in the Antarctic sea.
Epigraphy and fantasy go hand in hand apparently. I bet none of you knew that the very name of the greatest state in the union, California, has ‘islamic’ root: it was the name of a fantastic island in a Spanish novel written in the age of exploration.
Owing to its exotic conception by the first Europeans to visit, fantastic topography and often paradaisical climate, California has stimulated the imaginations of generations to give birth to manifold orientalist fantasies. One of the ripest spring from the date-growing industry that flourishes in the southeastern deserts near Mecca and Coachella. In the 1930s Arabian date-growing experts were consulted. The local high school, Coachella Valley adopted the Arab as its mascot sometime around the 1930s in response to the elaboration of Arab themes around the date palm industry there which bolstered the local economy. The Saudi date consultants gave input to the design of the school mascot’s logo, correcting earlier versions which they said were variously wimpy or Turkish. The design the Saudis proffered featured a hook-nosed, scowling Arab in a thobe and distinctive Saudi headcovering, with crosses scimitars. This design was by far the best in the school’s history and was used until 2014 when intolerant victimologizing Islamic supremacists forced the school to change its logo yet again to something less anti-Arab/islamophobic. The irony is not lost on this reader who learned of the Saudi-directed design of the very ‘anti-arab’ logo, along with other orientalist trappings such as a 3-dimensional Coachella Valley Arab mascot costume featuring a huge Arab head, scimitar and thobe, accompanied by an orientalist musical theme played by the school band with cute belly-dancing girls gyrating exotically at football half-time.
Apparently, all this orientalist sensuality and comedy was deemed racist and abolished in this present era as a California once known for fun and frivolity more and more comes to resemble the joyless desert kindgom of the oil sheiks in earnest rather than in fantasy. The irony of the racist accusation is that the majority of kids dressing up as cartoon Arabs are Hispanic and even immigrants from Mexico.
World@70 says
Yes! Using that logic, Romans founded Rome, GA?
mccode says
Good one
ed says
Or Athens , GA ,
Mac says
The Russians must have established Moscow, Idaho too
Pere LaChaise says
Don’t forget Fort Ross (short for Rossiya) on the Sonoma County Coast of ‘Islamic’ California, Bear the outlet of the Russian River (Slavyanka) – oops, it actually WAS a Tsarist Russian outpost!
gravenimage says
Hugh Fitzgerald: John Hamed, Jr., Barry Fell, and the Backdating of Islam in America
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Cranks like Barry Fell would not be much of a danger–after all, the Irish are not claiming ownership of America based on his wonky ideas. Unfortunately, Muslims *are*.
More, from John Hamed:
We can go on and on, but suffice to say, Islam was here even before there was a U.S.A. There are more than 500 places in the U.S. today with clearly Islamic names: Mecca, Indiana; Medina in New York, Ohio and Texas; Toledo, Ohio; Mahomet, Illinois; Islamorada, Florida; etc.
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Town naming in the United State is hardly lost in the mists of time. These towns were not founded by Muslims. There are towns all over the country named for foreign cities–there are towns named for Moscow, Paris, Athens, Rome, and many other places.
And it is bizarre–and disturbing–that he would claim that Toledo–named for a city in Spain–is an “Islamic” name. In fact, it was known as Holy Toledo for its number of churches and famous Holy Week. None of this had *anything* to do with Islam.
Toledo was under Muslim conquest for a time, as was much of Spain–but it has been free for centuries now. Certainly, the city had nothing to do with Islam when the name was adopted for a town in Ohio.
Mahomet, Illinois, appears to have been named after the local Masonic Lodge. The Masons often used names and symbols of various world religions–this does not mean that the Masons were Muslim.
As for Islamorada, Florida, this has nothing to do with Islam, either–it was named by the Spanish, and means “purple island”.
But Muslims will try to use anything–no matter how implausible–to claim that the West is actually already Islamic.
They hope it will make their takeover easier if they have a prior claim.
eduardo odraude says
You make useful points there, thanks.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Thanks, gravenimage, for researching the names of these towns. I actually live reasonably near the Western New York community of Medina, which is a Mecca for aficionados of the Erie Canal; see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina%2C_New_York
And as you point out, Isla Morada originally meant Purple Island, but its modern spelling Islamorada makes it a prime site for the planned Islam-O-Rama theme park for Muslims. I understand that because of the destruction in the Florida Keys caused by the recent hurricanes, CAIR hopes to acquire the island for a bargain price, with the help of their Florida real-estate attorney Myron Mosqowitz.
Owen Morgan says
The Spanish Toledo was called Toletum by the Romans and I think that the Roman name was itself only an adaptation of the pre-Roman one, which preceded the Moorish occupation of the city by many centuries. Presumably, Hamed now has to claim that islam preceded itself by hundreds of years, too.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Eduardo, Mark, and Owen. Besides everything else, I always enjoy the level of erudition here at Jihad Watch.
Mark, I especially appreciate the information on the eliding of “Isla Morada”.
I suppose Muslims would claim that Myron Mosqowitz has a Muslim name, too–clearly, his surname is a reference to the “Mosque”… 🙂
dumbledoresarmy says
This is all of a piece with the bizarre Muslim claims that, for example, all the Biblical personages and prophets were “Muslims” and “really” taught Islam (exactly as practised by Mohammed and companions, and taught in the Quran Sira and Hadiths) rather than the beliefs and practices recorded in the TaNaKh and in the Christian scriptures. Or the Muslim belief that all babies are ‘really’ born Muslims and that their mean ol’ horrible infidel parents ruin their lives by bringing them up as Christians, or Jews, or Hindus, or whatever.
Mohammedanism is about theft: intellectual, spiritual, physical theft. It attempts to steal all people, all things, and justify the theft by claiming – which is a manifest nonsense and a lie – that Muslims and Islam are ‘original’ to everything and everywhere. When of course history, real history, shows exaclty the opposite – that the Islamic system is a cobbled-together johnnycome lately.
Harry Frankfurt should do a bit of additional study and write an appendix to his book “On Bullshit”; an appendix devoted entirelly to Mohammedan madhattery, which is right out there in a class of its own, though it is recognisably a species of ‘bull-sh*t’, as defined by Mr Frankfurt, because it **does not care** whether what it says is objectively true or false; all that matters to the thoroughgoing BS-artist is fooling or confusing one’s hearers just long enough to get what one wants, or to get them to do what one wants.
gravenimage says
All true, DDA.
No Fear says
Wow, sounds like an Islamic version of the Book of Mormon.
gravenimage says
Joseph Smith based much of Mormonism on Islam. He said, “I will be a second Mohammad”.
eduardo odraude says
Key difference between Islam and Mormonism. Mormonism is highly compatible with liberal democracy. Islam is in essential respects incompatible with liberal democracy.
gravenimage says
Mormonism is compatible *now*. Originally, they practiced polygamy and the murder of apostates.
Luckily, it has been reformed, save for a few “fundamentalist” splinter groups that still practice polygamy.
I don’t think we can expect this of Islam itself.
ed says
Mormons and muslims should walk hand and hand after death , both believe in tons of sex after death .
eduardo odraude says
While Mormons have some questionable beliefs, they don’t want to kill you or tyrannize over you. Whereas hundreds of millions of Muslims around the globe do want to rule over non-Muslims and reduce them to a debased second class status (dhimmitude: so long as you non-Muslims know “your place” — give us your seat when we want it, go to the side of the road when we are coming, do only the worst and dirtiest jobs for us, don’t build or repair churches, temples, or synagogues, accept that your testimony in our courts will virtually always be rejected if contradicted by a Muslim, house and feed us if we demand it, do not proselytize your religion to Muslims, but permit Muslims to proselytize for Islam, pay the jizyah, and accept that you are filth compared to Muslims — do all of that and more, and we will honor the dhimma or “protection” contract, i.e., we won’t kill you).
Pere LaChaise says
Eduardo,
Couldn’t be put better. Islam is a betrayal of humanity to the basest impulses of domination and desecration. The foul infidels who elaborated this system of religiously justified hatred and rapine have been severely judged by the One true judge of all men’s deeds and thoughts.
Jo says
So glad to know that Mormons don’t want to kill or tyrannize. The Baker-Fancher party might have been of a different opinion.
gravenimage says
Good post.
Benedict says
When you understand that Islamic theology is anti everything in order to replace everything and that all means in order to reach this end are permitted, you have the keys to understanding Islam.
DRHazard says
Muslims by and large have no idea what a “fact” is. There is a reason that there are no major non-religious universities exist in the Muslim world. There is a reason that there has been just one winner of any Nobel Prize since the awards began. It’s because science is based on facts, and people who make up and believe their own facts just have to find one non-Muslim person who supports their claim to validate their ignorance and end all further investigation.
Many of the so called miracles in the Quran that involve science owe their beginnings to “Dr.” Maruice Bucaille. Back in the 70s he wrote a couple of books filed with the stuff Muslims want to hear from a Western “scientist”. Feeding the gullibility and desperate need among Muslims for scientific validation of their scriptures was financially profitable for Bucaille.
No scientist at the time or since has confirmed Bucailleu’s claims. Nevertheless he is STILL quoted by Muslims as a reliable source for their ridiculous claims of scientific foreknowedge in the Quran.
I have no doubt all of the content in Fell’s book in regards to Islamic presence in the New World, will remain as sources of definitive authority among Muslims. He will be quoted and requoted by them forever. His pertinent claims will NEVER be questioned.
Among Muslims facts are inferior to faith but if you can find just ONE person, with no overt motivation for lying, landing on your side of the fence then milk that source dry. Rinse and repeat until judgement day. A stupid person is always the last person to realize just how little he knows. And if understanding actually occurs and the former believer talks about it, then they are judged, condemned and killed because the Quran has all the answers to everything, like what to do with somebody who doesn’t buy into the ugly story of Islam and it’s murderous founder anymore.
No Fear says
Islam was not peer reviewed because Mohammed killed people who disagreed with him.
eduardo odraude says
Peer review of Allah amounts to shirk, the worst sin in Islam.
eduardo odraude says
A UN Arab Human Development report some years back noted that Spain in a single year translates more books than the whole Arab Muslim world had translated in a thousand years.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is extremely notable, Eduardo.
The awful truth says
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Isn’t there this Arab story about letting in half a camel into your tent before it just kicks you out and claims ownership. This pattern is repeating itself in any country with a significant Muslim minority but in the US they’re not a significant minority but the kand grabs gave already started. Remember – God will always win.
b.a. freeman says
DRHazard, the ulema decided early on that science questions allah, and therefore is blasphemy. when it comes to lying, stealing, raping, and killing, pious muslims are remarkably pragmatic, and are more than willing to make use of modern technology, but this does not mean that they will tolerate blasphemy. should islam destroy civilization (which looks more likely by the day), pious muslims will not disallow the use of modern technology (for the most part), but they will absolutely stop further research (if only because they will murder all researchers for blasphemy). the study of history will also go by the board, since it focuses attention on pre-islamic beliefs, which detract from allah (and is therefore also blasphemy).
thus, in a few short centuries – perhaps 3 or 4 – after our conquest, most of our advanced modern technologies will be gone, and nobody will know anything about the pre-islamic world.
Hue City Vet says
How about the Mecca bar and grill in Wickenburg, Arizona that really islamic.How about Bagdad AZ
gravenimage says
🙂
eduardo odraude says
Excellent article by Hugh Fitzgerald. Devastating, and it flows.
As Muhammad was a raider and plunderer, John Hamed Jr. evidently thinks he can himself do a little raiding for Islam, i.e., he can expropriate the U.S. via a rewrite of history.
Islamic disinformation, a miasma whose purpose is apparently to blind infidels the better to prey upon them, seems to be emitted from Islam a bit like anesthetic ink from a cephalopod.
Muhammad says, “Fight everyone in the way of God and kill those who disbelieve in God.”
Muhammad says those words on page 672 (992 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad.
Debi Brand says
Gooood [sic] work, Hugh.
Bill Christian says
If True, then those Indian tribes would be apostates of Islam and now would have to fear becoming targets of Muslim following the teachings of Mohammed
Carolyne says
There is a group of people living in NE TN, E KY and Western VA who claim to be a group who call themselves Melungeons. I once went to a meeting they had in Bristol TN where a group of them claimed they were of Turkish descent and had visited Turkey, where they were wined and dined. They apparently were here prior to the settlement of Jamestown VA. One of my ancestors had the name of Collins and that is a name which appears frequently among Melungeons. so I went to the meeting to find out more about them. I considered them sort of Looney Tunes and after I left the meeting, I sincerely hoped I was not one of them. Doing further research, I found that they had a large percentage of Portuguese DNA and it was thought they came here with Colunbus’s group and jumped ship and stayed and interbred with American Indians whose DNA they also carry.
The Mormons believe that the Garden of Eden was in MO and that a tribe of Israelis had settled in N. America long before Europeans arrived. They have no archaeological evidence of this, but it doesn’t seem to matter in their faith.
Both of these stories are more plausible than what this idiot is pushing, but all of it is hogwash. There is evidence that Vikings settled in Nova Scotia long before Columbus, but I think it is pretty well established that they were first, and they were not Muslims.
gravenimage says
Carolyne, the “Melungeons” are really just a racial mix of European, Native American, and African:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melungeon
There were sometimes referred to as “Turks”, “Moors” or “Portuguese”, but there was no basis for this.
The same mix is largely true of groups like the Seminoles. It is a not uncommon ethnic mix in North America.
eduardo odraude says
And with Mormons, you don’t have to worry that they want to subjugate the whole world under Mormon law (if there is such a thing). They won’t send you death threats by the dozens or blow you up or stab you or run you are not Mormon or if if you point out a problem with their texts or with Brigham Young or what not. They don’t reserve the golden rule exclusively for Mormons. And they fit into liberal capitalist democracy brilliantly, in part because they are extremely industrious, from what I’ve read.
Individual Muslims of course sometimes go by the golden rule in dealing with non-Muslims, but the core Islamic texts unambiguously reject the golden rule for non-Muslims. That’s why with Islam you can get organizations like ISIS, Hamas, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, etc. etc. etc., and why you have places like Saudi Arabia where bibles are confiscated if you try to enter the country with one, and where religions besides Islam are verboten.
b.a. freeman says
as could be expected, neither dr. fell nor mr. hamed presented any evidence that the iroquois, algonquin, anasazi, hohokam, or olmec native peoples share mitochondrial DNA with arabs. the former might be forgiven for not considering it, given that he published in the late 1970s and early 1980s, either slightly before or contemporaneously with the development of the PCR DNA sequence amplification technique. mr. hamed does not have that excuse. he is, however, a muslim, and he practices taqiyyah very well; did i not already know of the doctrine of abrogation, introduced by muhammed while pretending to be allah (quran 2:106), his list of peaceful ayat from the quran would be convincing. given that most leftists cynically assume that islam is as useless as any other religion, and therefore as harmless, it almost assuredly convinces them, especially since they never check for themselves. when they eventually must cower and recite the shahada in order to live, i hope the realization that they had a hand in the destruction of civilization colors the rest of their lives.