Muslim men are permitted to marry the “People of the Book” (although Muslim women may not marry men of the “People of the Book”), but Hindus are not “People of the Book.” Thus Chayanika Kumari had to convert to Islam if she was going to marry Mirza Rafiqul Haque. But she refused, and paid with her life. This is a manifestation of the culture of violence that mandates the beating of disobedient women (Qur’an 4:34).
One might wonder how sincere her conversion might have been, if she had only become a Muslim because Haque was pressuring her. After all, there is “no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256), right? But what constitutes “compulsion” is in the eye of the beholder. The institutionalized subjugation of the dhimma, with its regular humiliation and harassment, from which one can be freed for the simple price of converting to Islam, is not considered compulsion. Remember Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig, the journalists who were kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam — even though their conversions were obviously coerced, their captors made them say that they were converting freely, and the captors probably believed that themselves. After all, the journos could have chosen to be killed instead.
“Woman Murdered by Boyfriend for Refusing to Convert to Islam and Marry,” Hindu Post, November 8, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Chayanika Kumari (30) was strangled to death by her alleged boyfriend Mirza Rafiqul Haque, a doctor by profession, for refusing to convert to Islam and marry him. After murdering Chayanika, Haque stuffed her body into a suitcase which he left at the Tata Nagar railway station, Jamshedpur, Jharkhand.
Chayanika, a resident of Jharkhand’s Jamshedpur, was working as an operation head in the city-based Meditrina Hospital. Dr. Mirza Haque was working as an RMO at the BM Birla Hospital in Kolkata.
According to the Jamshedpur police, Haque killed 30-year-old Chayanika after she refused to marry him despite their three-year-long relationship. The accused had already decided that if Chayanika won’t get ready to marry him, he would kill her….
According to Jamshedpur SSP Anoop T Mathew, Haque got angry after getting this response from Chayanika and strangulated her to death. After that, he packed her body in the suitcase and dumped it near Tata Nagar railway station.
Chayanika’s father Arun Kumar said that Haque was pressurizing his daughter to convert and marry him.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC 846-848 when noticing the above head line,.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.337
848 “Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men.”338
The question seldom mentioned “Can a Muslim enter the kingdom of Heaven based on his faith in Islam.
The answer is No on the Catholic side.
Linde Barrera says
I will forward this article to a dear friend who was required to return to India because her US visa expired. She told me that Muslims are not a problem in India. She lives in the Bangalore area.
Chand says
Although these incidents do happen, they are usually rare. In India people usually marry withing their own communities, religions, ethnic groups, tribes, castes, etc. and there are many although inter community and inter caste and inter religious marriages are increasing with rise in education and mobility.
There are other huge problems in India other than the Muslims as such…………..pollution, over population, unemployment, endemic poverty, severe undernourishment, farmers committing suicide, armed insurgencies by Maoist Communist rebels in the jungles, separatist insurgencies in the north east by some indigenous tribes, sexual assaults on women, domestic abuse of women, Islamic insurgency in Kashmir, etc.
And all of these problems aren’t due to the Muslims as a community!
The major cities and towns are usually safe but women have to be careful in many places in India.
Then with the rise of Hindu nationalism and right wing politics there are some new problems, e.g. ban on eating beef in most parts of the country.
Bangalore is quite safe and modern and Hindus, Muslims and Christians generally live in peace and harmony there.
Most Indian Muslims are peaceful citizens, law abiding and actually fear the recent rise of Hindu fundamentalism.
But of course, there are some who are criminals, jihadis and undesirables, as in all communities. And they will surely become a problem if their religion, Koran or Prophet are targeted for abuse and vilification.
So this article does not reflect the whole truth. ‘Hindu Post’ is a fringe, Hindu-fundamentalist news body.
Chand says
And Indian Muslims have, by and large, ignored appeals to Jihad by Alqaeda and Islamic State propaganda. As yet……………………………………………………………
Hector Archytas says
I wont compare Hinduism to Islam. Hinduism nationalism is a kind of nationalism. It is so legitimate.
gravenimage says
Is Chand claiming that this story is false? So it appears.
This story was also reported in the mainstream Times of India:
“Kolkata doctor held for killing girlfriend in Jamshedpur”
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jamshedpur/kolkata-doctor-held-for-killing-girlfriend-in-jamshedpur/articleshow/61510927.cms
It was also reported in The Telegraph, the Avenue Mail, and many other newsources.
It was even reported in a *Muslim* newspaper, the Gulf News:
“Doctor murders girlfriend, stuffs body in suitcase”
http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/india/doctor-murders-girlfriend-stuffs-body-in-suitcase-1.2119243
Yet apologist for Muslim savagery Chand is pretending that this is just Hindu-fundamentalist propaganda.
He is also pretending that Jihad terror is not a problem in India–I guess he has no problem with atrocities like this one:
“India: Muslims hack Hindu to death for being in a relationship with a Muslim woman”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/india-muslims-hack-hindu-to-death-for-being-in-a-relationship-with-a-muslim-woman
Khushi says
You are right, Graven, Chand is trying to push every fact about muslims in India under the rug and have everyone believe that they are just like the other Indians.
They are not. They are zealots and do different things to promote their religion.
Not all muslims are violent, some contribute funds, some write articles and some, like Chand here, write comments on websites……….all to promote their religion and to de-base the other religions.
gravenimage says
True, Khushi.
And good to see you posting again. Hope you are well.
Vajapeya says
Oh dear Chand you are so quick to defend Jihad aren’t you!!! Probably you know that love Jihad is a valid issue?? Muslims are peaceful as long as the are not in the majority.When they are in a majority things are different. Here are a few examples
1. Kairana in UP where Hindus were driven out
2. Malabar region especially Manappuram, where ever Hindus are sandwiched in Muslim majority areas, they are asked to convert or sell their properties for throw away prices or killed or driven away.
3. In many areas in and around ancient temples especially in South India, if Muslims are in a Majority in that area they block celebration of the festivals.
4. Not to talk of the love Jihad going on in India. This too happens in Kerala where innocent girls are brain washed, isolated from family and then married of to Muslim men. Who in turn send them to Syria or give them away in Mutta marriages. Also the pro jihadi indian media never opened its mouth. On the other hand it was a cow lynching, those TV companies would have a field day. But Hindus being murdered does not count for news.
Also many shameless leaders celebrate Jayanti’s or Birthdays of Jihadi/Rapists like Tipu sultan, who looted, raped and slaughtered all Kaffirs, Christians included. This rascal Tipu is being touted as a freedom fighter, when in reality he sought the support of the Ottoman empire for a “Final solution of the third Reich” like Jihad on Kaffir India. It was just that the political interests of the Ottomans were in Tandem with the European powers and this alone stopped this Jihad. See this link for the details of this shameless celebration https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/section-144-imposed-in-karnatakas-madikeri-on-tipu-sultan-jayanti/articleshow/61590300.cms. No country in the world will celebrate its own oppressor. Again such a policy of appeasement aka bum licking was instituted by M.K.Gandhi another crypto Jihadi, who unfortunately has international fans like Martin Luther Jr of USA. He hid the fact that Hindus were slaughtered in 1000s in Noakali during partition and always supported Muslims and never condemned them for killings. He derided Hindus as cowards and asked them to their women folk to their Muslim “Brothers” till they were satisfied.
This culture of bum licking has seeped in from this immoral, anti Hindu, “Father of the nation”, who asked his own brethren to send their woman folk to be rapped. This Chand is another crypto Muslim like Gandhi(may be a real one too) quick to defend any act of aggression or Jihad.
Linda says
Whether one is of the “People of the Book” or not, it is best to give Muslims a wide berth because you never know what may set them off and you could wind up dead over some minor infraction in Islam that you didn’t even imagine existed.
C T says
Robert, You touch here on what I consider an enormous flaw in Islam. Submission to God must be voluntary or it is meaningless, devoid of faith and virtue. It’s ridiculous to claim that something done solely in order to avoid death and persecution is “voluntary.” For some reason, the same people who claim that having to identify one’s self is “voter suppression” cannot find it in themselves to call Islam oppressive.
Wake up, Democrats, and read the doctrine of the Muslims whose doctrine you treat as immune from discussion. Show you’re not the illiterates you’ve been acting like.
gravenimage says
Muslims don’t care about this. They just want more and more people under the thumb of Islam.
Michael Copeland says
A muslim male cannot be humiliated by a kaffir chattel.
Makenomistake says
It is just an example of a total absence of a fitting retribution that makes the muslims go the way they like ,in the first place. In India if islam is a problem ( and it is a problem) then the blame goes totally to the vote beggar political parties which brand themselves “secular”,which when taken in its face value in India means licking muslim feet by the politicians and the mainstream political establishment. Otherwise the score can be settled with the criminal muslims in a matter of days. Gujarat showed this in 2002. Now Kashmir taking the heat.
The Saudi islamic money will stop coming shortly, which was the strength of all islamic/Wahabi criminality. Islam will and must get the test of its own ideology.
Chand says
Makenomistake says: “Otherwise the score can be settled with the criminal muslims in a matter of days. Gujarat showed this in 2002. Now Kashmir taking the heat.”
When a horde of criminal Muslims burnt a train compartment, killing 50+ Hindus inside alive in Gujarat in 2002 communal civil strife broke out. Those Hindus were returning from Ayodhya after doing voluntary work to build a temple for Lord Rama over the five hundred year old Babri Mosque, which had just been demolished by hordes of criminal Hindus led by a fascist Hindu organization. They claimed that the mosque had been built over a Lord Rama temple that stood there earlier.
So Hindus in Gujarat reacted and attacked Muslims. Instead of stopping the conflagration and saving lives of innocent Hindus and Muslims, the state govt. allowed the murderous mobs to kill at will and the minority Muslims bore the brunt. Most were regular people who had no hand either in the demolition of the Rama temple 500 years earlier or the burning of the train passengers.
So is this how one settles scores? By attacking civilians? So you just follow the way of the jihadis. They too attack civilians. So then how are the Hindus different? Aren’t attacks on civilians acts of cowardice?
Shouldn’t only Jihadi terrorists and armed Islamic militants be targeted?
On the other hand, in Kashmir, the jihadis and the Islamic separatist militants usually target the Indian armed forces and the insurgency there has surged into a popular revolt, seeking secession, with no end in sight. India has employed half a million army and paramilitary personnel there to stop it. India can’t be blamed as otherwise Kashmir will join Pakistan.
But don’t think the Kashmir problem can be solved ‘in a matter of days’ just by strong arm tactics. Popular discontent with India is only growing there.
Agreed that the root cause of these problems is Saudi Wahaabi money and the help from the Pakistani deep state. Hope it is stopped.
gravenimage says
The root cause of these problems is the ideology of Islam.
Voytek Gagalka says
“There is no compulsion in religion.”
But that is followed immediately by: “Verily, the Right Path [i.e., Islam] has become distinct from the wrong path” [i.e., any other religion which Islam does not even recognize as a religion or, even if it does (the People of the Book), it demands total submission to its absolute rule].
And then, of course, they will claim that “right path” will be chosen completely “freely” and without “compulsion,” even if some help from the sword (scimitar) will be needed for persuasion of that said “free” choice. Indeed, that is how Islam understands “free choice” and “no compulsion in religion.”
MFritz says
Any other true religion would have offered a better solution. But not this murderous cult.
R Cole says
That’s called ‘Love Jihad.’ The underhanded practice is common in southern India, where Muslim men target Hindu or non-Muslim women for marriage. Not because they particularly care about the women, but in order to pressure them into converting to Islam, adding to Muslim numbers there.
Even if it were a legitimate marriage proposal, suspiciously it’s never the Muslim partner who has to tolerate or be accepting of others, it’s almost the rule that the other has to convert to Islam in order to marry. It’s Islamic supremacy in action.
Marriage restrictions have been used effectively in places like Syria and Egypt and must have helped decimate ancient Christian populations. Although, unlike India, these nations do come under the religious law that bars conversion away from Islam, but not to it.
Syria: Love or religion?
https://youtu.be/739E3Z78V6E
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A number of the lower caste Hindus have converted to Islam to escape the harsh conditions as ‘untouchables’. But even as they convert they are still viewed as lower caste or as being in the so-called ‘uneducated’ group. The Indian government perhaps could ensure the young people growing up within these lower castes are given more rights and opportunities or India could be facing a Partition Two in a few years time.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is “Love Jihad”.
And there have been serious efforts in the past few decades to address the inequality of the Dalits. Not perfect, but there is progress, and many in elected positions at this point. Converting to the religion of blood and death does not help them.
gravenimage says
India: Muslim murders his Hindu girlfriend for refusing to convert to Islam and marry him
………………………..
This *poor woman*. This sort of atrocity is all too common in Islam. *Ugh*.
Mahendra Singh says
The girl got exactly what was coming to her. Deception is a real
feature of Islam. If the girl, who was well educated, kept abreast with
Islamic activities around her, she would have immediately dumped him.
gravenimage says
So being naive and uninformed means that you deserve to be slaughtered?
I notice you have no problem with the Muslim murderer.
Vajapeya says
Gravenimage sometimes i feel what Mahendra Singh tells is right. I’ve seen many Hindu girls falling for this. One reason is that the skin color difference between the real Turk, Arabic Persian Musalmann. . They speak languages like Farsi, Urdu etc which usually is not the language spoken by the majority Hindus and Hindu converts. These kinds of Muslims tend to look fairer than your average Hindu boy and with the fairness craze sweeping India with more and more Indian girls looking more Caucasian than Indian, these girls are attracted to these guys.
Also most Hindu boys are viewed as pacifists, whereas these guys are seen as macho. This is a general observation . Also these girls do not know that Muslims in India are not governed by common law which other communities follow but by Muslim personal law. Even if they are told the pro’s and con’s they think that the guy warning them is not secular. Secularism in India does not mean the dictionary meaning but a euphemism for Pandering to minorities. Thus if i celebrate only deepavali and not Eid or Christmas i will be perceived by the Libturds here as non secular. I have seen the sad plight of one of my own cousins who fell in love with a Muslim man. But she did not know she was wife no 2. By then she had gone to far and now she is married an cannot divorce as Islamic law does not allow women to initiate a divorce. Her life has become one of misery. I told her to check Sharia law before she jumped in but guess what i was blamed for being a communal right wing RSS member!!! So yes these girls are asking for this sometimes. No i am not happy with girls being killed but this is the reality
Susette says
Non-muslim females should NEVER become involved with, or even friendly to, muslim males. Their dangerous ideology knows no limits when it comes to oppressing and controlling women. Stay safe, ladies.