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Muslim writer: “Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down”

Nov 23, 2017 3:02 pm By Robert Spencer

Stephen Suleyman Schwartz is a convert to Islam and author of The Two Faces of Islam: Saudi Fundamentalism and Its Role in Terrorism and The Other Islam: Sufism and the Road to Global Harmony. He and I were on a panel together at CPAC in 2003 and have had some contentious exchanges in the past. In the course of one that appears unfortunately to have vanished from the Internet, he wrote: “Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”

Edward Said was the author of Orientalism. He and Orientalism did more to destroy honest study of Islam and jihad in academic settings than anyone or anything else. In Orientalism, Said, a viciously anti-Israel Leftist “Palestinian” Christian, ascribed any and all criticism of jihad terror and Sharia oppression to racism and colonialism, reflecting on the critic as a bad person, and showing Muslims to be poor, innocent victims.

Of course the academic establishment lapped this up like a starving cat finally being given a plate of milk. Orientalism became, and remains, not just the dominant perspective on Islam and jihad on college and university campuses, but virtually the only one that is allowed a hearing at all — witness my recent reception at Stanford University.

I can see Schwartz’s point to some degree, although he didn’t mean it as a compliment: I’m the opposite of Edward Said in that his work is false and mine is accurate, and he is a hero among academics today while I am demonized, shunned, and ostracized, solely for opposing jihad terror and Sharia oppression. This isn’t personal. This is what happens to anyone and everyone today who exposes the motivating ideology of jihad terrorists. Find out how pervasive this is, and how dangerous, in my book Confessions of an Islamophobe. Preorder your copy here now.

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  1. JawsV says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    Is Schwartz a Jew? And he converted to Islam? You know right there he has mental issues. I guess he enjoys being called “apes and swine” in the Jew-hating “Mein Korampf.”

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 8:13 pm

      Maybe, maybe not, Jaws. Schwartz is also just a common German-American name.

      He is a moron, whatever his background.

      • mgoldberg says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 10:00 pm

        He is not a jew. His father I believe was, but his mother was a protestant. To be born a jew, your mom has to be a jew. The reality was they were leftists who were antireligious.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 10:03 pm

          Thank you. Lots of dhimmis to go around, of all backgrounds.

        • mortimer says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 12:00 am

          Schwartz later described both of his parents as “radical leftists and quite antireligious”, his father a “fellow traveller”, his mother a member of the Communist Party. He was baptized in the Presbyterian church as an infant. – Wiki

        • Gae says

          Nov 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm

          Left had become increasingly anti-semitic…and similar to Islam which is invading Europe.

    • George says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      Schwartz was born a Jew, according to his biography in Wikipedia.

      • JawsV says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 8:34 pm

        Incredible! And he became an Allah arse-lifter. Something’s definitely off mentally.

        • Skeptic Sam says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 9:18 pm

          Maybe he tasted some of that delicious halal food and converted.

        • Gae says

          Nov 25, 2017 at 12:16 pm

          iwas attracted to 72 virgins and 12 prepubescent boys to “do with them as he pleasese” in Muslim Paradies when he dies as a martyr

      • mgoldberg says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 10:00 pm

        No, he was not. His father was born a jew, but his mother was a christian. Therefore he was not jewish, by Jewish law.

        • mortimer says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 12:03 am

          Schwartz’s maternal grandfather was a Protestant minister and his mother was a godless Communist according to Schwartz.

    • Gae says

      Nov 25, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      There are many such meshugana Jews who hate their own people…shanda! Oy vey! they clearly need serious psychological help…so does Noam Chomsky and Gerorge Soros who both hate their own people and work agaisnt Israel.

  2. Krazy Kafir says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    Hmmm, Edward Said was probably the most influential dhimmi in history.

    • Gae says

      Nov 25, 2017 at 12:14 pm

      Edward Said wrote his grand taqiyya and kitman book The Orientalist after the KGB had alreasy done damege in indoctrincating US acadamia to hate US and Western dimocrfacies. The Orientalist is a msterpiece of deception that had destroyed US socioligical research and introdued polilitally correct cultural relativism rule to academic career with no obejctivity in promotiongts.

  3. Lydia says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    When people are upside down, and you turn one of them ‘upside down’ in their view, they are actually right side up. But to them it looks upside down because that is what they are who observe, thinking themselves to be ‘right side up,’ when it is just the opposite.

  4. Samer Ibrahim says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    Edward Said was a digrace on culture, history and humanity. He was stupid, ignorant and liar. Those who believed what he wrote are as stupid and hypocrite as him. Edward Said accused the west of imperialism and colonialism, which liberated the Arab peoples from the tyranny of the Ottoman rule and brought the concept of modern state to them. He never mentioned one word about the Arab imperialism which destroyed civilization and brought backwardness and misery to the peoples who fell under its occupation. Shortly, he was a great imposter.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 12:05 am

      Well said, Samer. Edward Said was ungrateful for the gift of liberation from the Turkish empire. He clearly lacked objectivity which is the essential quality of a scholar.

      • Vivarto says

        Nov 24, 2017 at 4:41 am

        Why do you call it “liberation”?
        They were better off under Ottomans.
        They could run their goats and camels thousands of kilometers without any borders.

    • Gae says

      Nov 25, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      Unfortunately, neo-Marxist at the US academia had swallowed his taqiyya and kitman of Oriantalist and otehr writing completely and are still promoting his poison as we can see in US acedemia.

  5. Samer Ibrahim says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    Edward Said was a disgrace on culture, history and humanity. He was stupid, ignorant and liar. Those who believed what he wrote are as stupid and hypocrite as him. Edward Said accused the west of imperialism and colonialism, which liberated the Arab peoples from the tyranny of the Ottoman rule and brought the concept of modern state to them. He never mentioned one word about the Arab imperialism which destroyed civilization and brought backwardness and misery to the peoples who fell under its occupation. Shortly, he was a great imposter.

  6. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    Mr Spencer, you have the most inaccurate interpretations of Islam, because you are not learned on it. Is cherypicking of Quranic verses and hadiths to reach a conclusion a scholarly work on Islam?Any one could do that as many commentators at jw, who are ignorant about Islam, have been doing

    • Paul says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 4:09 pm

      How about a few examples there, chief ?

      • Jackson03 says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 4:22 pm

        Sorry Paul. Exemplary support for such Ibrahammed style arguments require logic and careful thought. My experience to date says it ain’t gonna happen with the likes of any supporter of the Islamic life style.

        • epistemology says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 11:20 am

          Couldn’t agree more. Ibrahim is a moronic asshole, he’s unable to understand Robert’s articles and very inarticulate. If my friend Wellington has some spare time he could teach him the English language, but I have my doubts if Wellington would like to do that. It’s all in vain.

          As for Schwartz`’s original religion it’s of no importance. Obviously he doesn’t know anything about Judaism. He’s just a moronic convert to Islam, as all converts to Islam are.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      Please enlighten us poor deceived infidels.

    • Milo says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 5:07 pm

      Here’s something to ponder.
      It appears to me after much study of Islam, it is believed the Qur’an is the eternal word of Allah, revealed to the prophet, Muhammad through the Angel, Gabriel. It is also said in the Qur’an, that its writings can not be corrupted (Suras # 6:114-115 & #18:27) and is clearly written so there is no question of meaning and need of interpretation (Sura #17:89)
      Once when confronted about possible contradictions found in the Qur’an, Allah revealed to Muhammad that they were not contradictions but rather abrogations of previous revelations. Hmmm, that means the later the sura is written, the more precedence it has over previous writings that might contradict its stance (Suras #2:106 & #16:101).
      So, out of the 114 Suras found in the Qur’an, what is the last sura revealed to Muhammad ? It’s Sura #110, Al-Nasr (Victory), about a paragraph long. Nothing significant enough to abrogate anything preceding it. It basically says when there come the victory of God, and the Conquest, there will be forgiveness.
      So, what was given to Muhammad just prior to this revelation?
      That would be Sura #9, At-Tawba (Repentance); the only Sura not to open with “in the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful”, that’s because there is no compassion nor mercy shown in this piece. It reads more like an instructional manual in the art of Jihad, than a holy book. It is more akin to The Art of War, than the Holy Bible.
      This Sura abrogates any peace & tolorence passages found in the entirety of the Qur’an . This would also explain the existence of ISIS and other extremists, who not only follow the instructions of the Qur’an to the letter, and emulate the lifestyle of the prophet, they also don’t lie (Taqiyya) about it.
      So who is correct, Allah, Muhammad, and the Jihadis or moderate Muslims, Western MSM, and western politicians?

      Sent from my iPad

      • JawsV says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 5:37 pm

        The Koran is a war manual. 64% of the Koran is devoted to waging war against non-Muslims (Jihad) and cursing the “Kafir” (Jews and Christians). The rest is a bunch of BS.

        About the abrogations, as Nonie Darwish says, “When Muhammed changed his mind, Allah also changed his mind.” You should get her book “Wholly Different” (2017).

        Clearly Allah is Muhammed. You have to be an in-bred mutant not to see that.

      • Gae says

        Nov 25, 2017 at 12:24 pm

        Mohamed was a pedophile polygamist, rapist, misogynist, slaver, looter and mass murderer who in any sane and decent society would be convicted for his crimes agaisnt humanity and not emulated by 1,600 millions of Muslims are “the most perfect human being who ever lived” and their “beloved preophet”. A criminal rold model creates cxriminal followers as we wee in most terrorsist attacks.

        John Wesley, the founder of Methodist church said this about islam and Mohrmad:

        “Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it … have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind.

        — John Wesley, “The Doctrine of Original Sin, Works” (1841), ix 205

    • Paul says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm

      Your ultimate role model was a blood thirsty paedophile who recited
      the words of the devil and we’re supposed to trust in you and not
      Robert Spencer?! You are deluded and your aim is to delude others.
      Keep your brain cancer to yourself. Thank you.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 8:19 pm

      Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      Mr Spencer, you have the most inaccurate interpretations of Islam, because you are not learned on it. Is cherypicking of Quranic verses and hadiths to reach a conclusion a scholarly work on Islam?Any one could do that as many commentators at jw, who are ignorant about Islam, have been doing
      …………………………..

      It has already been noted that Ibrahim itace muhammed tellingly declined to list a single example–because he cannot.

      And while he often claims that Robert Spencer is entirely wrong about the baleful aspects of Islam, he himself has–just in the last few days–affirmed that under Islam Muslims can rape Infidels, take slaves and sex slaves, marry children, carry out forced marriages, murder “blasphemers” and apostates, mass slaughter any Infidels who do not submit to Islam, and commit genocide against the Jews.

      The only difference is that he considers all of these to be *good* things.

      • Ray Jarman says

        Nov 24, 2017 at 3:19 pm

        I wish that someone could tell me why the word “academia” is used so loosely. Just because someone writes an article or is hired by what used to be places of higher education does not make them educated. Mr. Robert Spencer may not possess the title of “professor” but he is definitely an educator. I think that the down fall of academia began with Hobson where liberals began to pat each other on the back rather than commit to a disquisition in order to thoroughly analyze a peer.

    • Charlie Martel says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      Ibrahim itace muhammed you need to read this:
      Ibrahim, R. 2014 Islamic Jihad and the Doctrine of Abrogation, Middle East Forum, 6 March. http://www.meforum.org/3787/islamic-jihad-abrogation-doctrine

    • mortimer says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 12:06 am

      Ibrahim, PROVE YOUR POINTS BY CHALLENGING ROBERT SPENCER TO A DEBATE. He will oblige you.

      Ibrahim, you are a coward, are you not?

    • Vivarto says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 4:43 am

      Ibrahim,
      Forget about the Quran, and explain to me why every single Muslim country in the world is an oppressive shithole?
      Why are they all stinking poor with the exception of the ones that live of our oil money?
      Above all, please explain to me, why millions of Muslims want to leave Muslim countries and move to the godless and Christian Europe?

    • Gae says

      Nov 25, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Robert Spense has a very accurate pcture of Islam, un like liars who try to deceave us about Islam., using taqiyya and kitman

      Read Koran, Hadith and Sira-life of Mohamed (www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf). Muslims have to be confronted with those “holly books” teachings of hate, which ARE the root cause of violence and terrorism nowadays, The 65% of Koran and Hadith which are a hate speech against ALL non-Muslims must be eliminted, and they must drop Mohamed as a role model, as he was a vile criminal, as the founder of a Methodist Church, John Wesley clearly understood about Islam and Mohamed:

      “Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it … have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind. — John Wesley, “The Doctrine of Original Sin, Works” (1841), ix 205

  7. Wellington says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    Said’s work, “Orientalism,” is part of the overall problem that exists, i.e., Western Civilization, which pioneered more freedoms and a greater capacity to apologize for its wrongdoings than any other civilization in history, is held to a standard that no other civilization or society is held accountable for. Yes, the West was imperialistic, but the Islamic world never was, blah, blah, blah. Islam “just spread” while Westerners were rapacious. Muslims had a universal outlook but Westerners never did, seeing everything from only a Western perspective, blah, blah, blah. Same old same old about the West being bad without mention of the many wrongdoings of other civilizations and societies (and the Islamic world is right up there at the top of the list of engaging in wrongdoings aplenty).

    Said went to his grave either realizing all this (in which case he was a liar) or went to his grave not realizing all this (in which case he was a fool). Thus, anyone averring that they admire Said respecting his ideas about Western Civilization is, as with him, either a liar or a fool. Take you pick.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 9:48 pm

      Fine post, Wellington.

      And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

      • Wellington says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 10:55 pm

        Same to you, gravenimage. Hope you had a fine Thanksgiving with those you hold most dear. Take care, my friend.

    • epistemology says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 11:31 am

      Wish you all a happy Thanksgiving my friends. Hope you celebrated with your loved ones.

      I think Edward Said was a moron, he didn’t realize anything.

      Muslims are traitors to humanity, anybody who thinks that the rapist of a 9-year-old girl is the best of humans is a pervert. BTW the same guy was an anti-Semitic serial killer.

      • Wellington says

        Nov 24, 2017 at 1:27 pm

        Thanks for the Thanksgiving greetings. My wife and I spent it alone and she cooked a splendid dinner (I did my bit by cleaning up afterwards) and we just had a wonderful time being with each other.

        As for that reprobate from the late sixth and early seventh centuries, I have long said that if you destroy him you destroy Islam.

        Always good to hear from you, epistemology. Stay well.

        • epistemology says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 5:24 pm

          It’s wonderful to have friends like this.Hope one day I’ll meet you and your wife.

  8. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    Liftisruincanada, take, for, example, Mr Spencer’s view that the Quranic verse which says “faqtuluhum haithu thaqiftumuhum (fight them wherever you find them)”and he concluded that Muslim fighters in jihad can Kill non-Muslims wherever they find them, whether combatants or non-combatants, exactly as Isis is targeting civilian population, which is absolutely wrong because the Preding verses shade more light that this verse is talking about combatant non-believers who breached the treaty of peace they signed with Muslims. There are many of such errors in Mr Spencer’s analysis on Islam, which you the poor unlearned on Islam could not detect.

    • maghan says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 6:14 pm

      You stupid fool, how then you explain the behavior of ISIS led by an Arab expert on Islam, Dr. Abubakr al-Baghdadi. He is just following the primitive precepts of Islam. And yet you chatter on like a demented fool.

      • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 6:34 pm

        Meghan, Bagdadi is holding a perverted and isolated interpretations of Islam by khawarijism rejected by Muslims for long to satisfy the evil agenda of the evil Jews to weaken Muslims world for evil state of Israhell to bully them.Why evil Isis never carryout attack on Zionist state?

        • Naffa says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 6:53 pm

          Because they know they would get obliterated instantly, in the contrary to what the pityfull armies of syria and iraq do. Also, within the ‘palestinian’ population there are a lot of IS members. In Israel multiple arabs have been arrested for supporting the islamic state. You are totaly brainwashed, those evil jews you keep talking about have contributed a hundredfold to the world than your brothers have. In fact, they still contribute more to the world than you do. I dare say that israel has had much more contribution to science, technology and health care than any of the islamic countries have. Now bugger off and go to some muslim website, you’re not gonna convince anyone here.

        • JawsV says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 8:39 pm

          “carpet kissing contests”

          Ha-Ha! Can you imagine how often they have to vacuum in the mosk? Bring out the Hoover the arse-lifters have arrived!

        • Vivarto says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 5:00 am

          “IsraHell”?
          You poor pittable Musshole.
          Musloid Jew-hatred is result of Musloid inferiority.
          Musloids are inferior to Jews and that’s why they hate them.

      • Paul says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 7:24 pm

        @Ibrahim itace muhammed is doing his part to help with jihad.
        The likes of ISIS do all the dirty work while he attempts to keep
        people complacent regarding the true nature of the threat we all
        face. The jihad of misinformation.

        • Paul says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 7:51 pm

          @Jay Boo,
          He’s just perfecting his pathetic little game and trying to make
          his deceptive message more palatable.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 23, 2017 at 9:52 pm

          Jay Boo, Ibrahim Itace muhammed was just ranting about “filthy Christians” and “barbarian Hindus” the day before yesterday.

        • Champ says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 4:31 am

          Ibrahim Itace muhammed was just ranting about “filthy Christians” and “barbarian Hindus” the day before yesterday.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Yes, I read the same remarks, as well, Gravenimage.

    • Westman says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 6:43 pm

      You’re barking up the wrong tree, Ibrahim. It does not matter to the future if the instructions to kill unbelievers were in their own time or for all time. It and all the other of Allah’s diatribes describing his elegant future torture of unbelievers simply paints the image of bloodthirsty sadist. Islam’s Allah is quite rejectable on his own (or Muhammad’s) words and the actions of his followers.

      At the crux of the future for Islam is the notion of Shariah, which demands the obeyance of all humans. That can never be and will be resisted to the death; and it will mean unbelievable warfare, never before seen in history, because it demands the end of freedom which will not be given up, even to Allah.

      If Islam drops the idea of “forbidding” to unbelievers and forcing all to obey some set of rules to satisfy Allah, Islam has a future; if not there will be, likely generations in the future, wars that will eliminate those portions of Islam that can’t keep to themselves – as is happenibg to ISIS. It’s truly impressive that Islam is 20% of humans and maybe 10% of that would actually fight to enslave humanity. However, of the other 80% non-believers, even the women have some education and can join the fight.

      Islam can have a future if it stays out of political conflicts and gives up the idea of ruling the world – otherwise, it might as well be an old Greek mythology because the world is never going back to religious governance. Religiously informed, perhaps, but never governed by religion.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 7:12 pm

      Ibrahim, if you are such a BRILLIANT AUTHORITY ON JIHAD, please CHALLENGE ROBERT SPENCER TO A DEBATE.

      Otherwise, get lost.

      • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Nov 24, 2017 at 2:35 am

        Mortimer, I posted detailed criticism on Mr Spencer’s works on jihad, but JW refused to publish it for you to judge . may be Mr Spencer is scared that his lapses might be exposed.

        • JawsV says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 7:48 am

          No, Mohammedan, Spencer doesn’t want us wasting our time. Esp during the joyous Christmas season when we celebrate Jesus’s (God’s) birthday!

          Jesus is God.

          Allah is Muhammed.

        • FYI says

          Nov 24, 2017 at 9:06 am

          @’Ibrahim

          But would it not have to be written in classical Arabic as the linguistically-challenged allah can only reveal himself and be understood in that language?

          Unlike say,God,who speaks ALL languages:there is a Bible in every language known.The idea being that God reveals Himself to All mankind,unlike allah who only reveals himself to muslims .

          (Most Indonesian muslims would not know classic arabic.
          That’s bad luck for them isn’t it?)

          Even if you spent your whole life and became an expert in classical Arabic studying the koran..you STILL WOULD NOT FIND God’s two chief commandments anywhwere in your koran.
          Was it lost in translation?Is there no classical Arabic expression for the “Two Chief commandments”?

          I’m sorry..I have to laugh now…

      • Champ says

        Nov 24, 2017 at 2:50 pm

        Why waste Robert Spencer’s valuable time and expertise on this assclown …

    • Voytek Gagalka says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 7:49 pm

      If you are such expert on the Koran and say that Mr. Spencer quotes are out of context, why you don’t rush to convince fellow members of your Ummah that they all misrepresent Islam by using exactly the same quotes to do their evil things? And how many of them out of sudden started using those verses? Multiple thousands (if not millions) world wide! Caliph army at the pick contained 60 thousands fighters, including foreigners, attracted like iron to magnet, going there to perform jihad, and all of them were “mislead” by those verses? Maybe our leaders, elites and official media are so stupid to be hook to that lie, we are not! So don’t blame messenger who points to clear problems with those verses in the Koran, blame THEM and evil ideology they accepted blindly and so widely.

    • Skeptic Sam says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 9:26 pm

      You should debate Mr. Spencer some time. Might learn something about islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      Well, this is just ludicrous. Ibrahim itace muhammed has himself said that Muslims have the right to murder any Infidels who do not submit to Islam.

      And then he makes the grotesque claim that Muslims are being “bullied” when Infidels object to Muslims slaughtering us.

      His claim that Muslims have actually rejected violent Jihad–something he himself lauds–is further bs.

    • epistemology says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 5:41 pm

      The regular JW readers are all very knowledgeable about Islam. Robert keeps us informed, he’s a great scholar. Ibrahim you’re a moronic idiot like anybody who thinks the self-appointed prophet is the best of humans, a rapist and anti-Semitic serial killer.

      In Judaism you find the origin of our great Judeo-Christian culture and Israel is the only civilized country in the Middle East, but a professional moron like you will never understand that so lift your ass five times a day and spare us your waffling.

  9. mortimer says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    The question is why Western academics feel we should be in FAVOR of JIHAD TERRORISM against OURSELVES?

    This definitely bespeaks a form of mental illness among academics.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      This was not a clueless dhimmi, though, Mortimer, but a Mohammedan.

      • mortimer says

        Nov 23, 2017 at 11:56 pm

        Yes, a Western academics are clueless and believe him, because Schwartz looks European, but thinks like a Bronze Age warrior.

        What Schwartz is saying about Robert Spencer is a PERFECT example of PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION… accusing counterjihad of being the same as jihadists in reverse!

        Nothing could be further from the truth, because Islam incorporates and praises genocide, while we OPPOSE and CONDEMN ALL GENOCIDE.

        • Gae says

          Nov 25, 2017 at 12:33 pm

          Projection is one of the main mechanisms that Muslims and their supporter​s​ use in dealing with reality. As a scholar, psychoanalyst and a princess Maria Bonaparte, stated in her article Le Myth du Juif-Satan in Mythes de Guerre (Paris 1950) this projection plays a specific function in anti-semitism (which is now rampant among Muslims as it was in Nazi Europe):

          “More or less consciously, the anti-Semites project onto Jews all their evil instincts: Their thirst for blood, gold, luxury, debauchery. Having liberated themselves from all that, they become clean in their own eyes and appear to be shining examples of purity. Thus, the Jew is best suited to be that projection of the Devil. Aggression can fixate on this new incarnation of (imaginary) Evil.”

          Just look at ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, Al-Shabbab, Boko Haram, Taliban and Muslim Brotherhood of Barack Hussein Obama, and/or genocidal ayatollahs of Iran!

  10. mortimer says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    COWARD Stephen Suleyman Schwartz would not last five minutes in a debate with Robert Spencer.

    He throws mud at Robert Spencer from a safe distance because Stephen Suleyman Schwartz is to COWARDLY to be shown as an uninformed FOOL.

  11. mortimer says

    Nov 23, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    Photo shows: “Edward Said throwing a rock at the IDF”

    Huh? Why does a ‘MODERATE’ Muslim engage in jihad and hatred of Jews?

    What is ‘moderate’ about jihad?

  12. Cornelius says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 12:02 am

    How telling that the name of Edward Said, a linguist who once readily conceded he was no scholar of Islam or the Middle East, now graces the national chair of MESA. Ibn Warraq has thoroughly debunked the intellectual essence of Said-ism. It makes for good reading.

    Happy Thanksgiving to Robert, Hugh, and all the Jihad-watchers.

  13. Rob says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 2:20 am

    Bernard Lewis had a famous spat with Said. In response to Said’s thesis that only Muslims could legitimately study Islam ‘Prof Lewis wrote ‘Does that mean that only fish can study marine biology?’

    • JawsV says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 7:54 am

      That’s hilarious! Thanks for that, Rob! Muslims have this ridiculous idea that Islam is “special” and can’t be learned about unless you’re a Muslim and reading the Quran in Classical Arabic! Ha! Islam is A SUBJECT LIKE ANY OTHER. It’s not special! In fact, it’s a curse and plague on the planet.

    • Karen says

      Nov 24, 2017 at 10:02 am

      The beginnings of ‘cultural appropriation’ theory, I suppose. The same mentality would say that Muslims (or insert any non-Western identity group) can never be judged guilty of any form of bigotry.

  14. Robert_k says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 4:32 am

    Edward Said was a favorite guest of Charlie Rose on his show -“two fellow intellectuals”.
    Edward Said was a member of the Palestine National Council, the PLO government-in-exile. He was courted by George HW Bush I’s Secretary of State James Addison Baker for the run-up to Madrid Peace Conference.
    Stephen Schwartz believes that Sufi Islam is moderate Islam as opposed to Wahhabi Islam which is radical Islam. But there is a quote from Wiki about the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood that needs to be verified: “In addition to his early exposure to Hanbali puritanism, Hassan al-Banna was inspired by Rashid Rida’s magazine, Al-Manar. He was also heavily influenced by Sufism as a youth in Mahmudiyya. He attended weekly Hadra and was a member of the al-Hassafiyya Sufi order.[7]”

    [7] Introduction to Princeton Readings in Islamist Thought: Texts and Contexts from Al-Banna to Bin Laden, pg. 26. Part of the Princeton Studies in Muslim Politics series. Eds. Roxanne Leslie Euben and Muhammad Qasim Zaman. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2006. ISBN 9780691135885

  15. Ver Auger says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 4:37 am

    1) Marxists are atheists, who believe that all religions are “the opium of the masses”

    2) If Schwartz claims to be a Marxist and a Muslim, he cannot be both, due to #1

    3) If he advocates Marxism, then he is an apostate of Islam.

    4) What is the punishment for apostasy in Islam?

  16. duh swami says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 7:57 am

    Ibrahim…The Quran is a dark and evil fairy tale whispered into the ear of a semi-psychotic Arab, by an incoherent angel named Gabriel…

    How do you say that in Arabic?

  17. FYI says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 8:59 am

    “a convert to islam”.

    Of course he is:the intellectually challenged and theologically illiterate always are attracted to islam

    They can find the islamic allah the koranic god of hate.. but they cannot find God!
    And most converts to islam clearly lack the intelligence to differentiate between allah and God.

    Even if you convert to islam you are not suddenly permitted to break God’s Commandments just because the koran says you can.

    You are not free to “slay the unbeliever” because murder is condemned by God in His Commandments which are ABOVE anything written in the koran.

    If you are a former Christian and convert to islam you surely know that..
    1. you cannot seriously expect salvation
    2 if you live by the sword you WILL DIE by the sword.
    3 you are not suddenly free to break God’s Commandments because you follow allah.
    4. you run a serious risk of losing your soul and being the chaff in God’s Justice

    If you are a Jew and you convert to islam you have joined a religion that is the enemy of the Jews.Shame on you!

    So if you are Christian or Jewish I suggest you keep faithful to your creeds in these times… for reasons that have to do with Biblical Prophecy and the times we live in.
    Be smart!
    Remember that the God of Moses subscribes to the Two Chief Commandments and that both Christianity and Judaism believe in these supreme laws of God.

    islam doesn’t.

  18. Alain says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    The quickest and most efficient way to empty out a mosque and to make a muslim nervous is to let in a bunch of Greek men,and have them hang around the back of the room while prayers are being said. I’ll tell you one thing, there won’t be much “carpet kissing” done that day.:)

  19. tgusa says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    Oh look, another leftist Geologist in action.

  20. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Nov 24, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    Well, considering that Ed Said is a self-confessed slanderous racist bigot and extortionist who made up his “Orientalist!” slanders against whites out of whole cloth (as he admitted to in the preface of the second edition of his infamous book of the same name) saying Robert is the Anti-Said is high praise indeed LOL!

  21. terry says

    Nov 25, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Inconvenient questions, attack, label, divert, then refuse to answer, …. end of discussion.

  22. Frank J. Verderber says

    Nov 25, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    The facts are that Sufi regional Caliphs were in charge of the western Middle East – from Libya to the Jordan and from Turkey and in Persia – up to the 1400″s. They came from the Turkish Mamluks. But one Ibn Taymiyya drove the Saudi Wahabiism into the west through forced political wars. The Sufis were more manageable, as they are today, since they are involved in mysticism and will study other religious mystic beliefs. They had a way of getting along with Hebrews and Christians even though they were in charge during the Crusades. The Mamluks – an Easter Praetorian Guard – saw Jerusalem and the Temple Mount as the preeminent Muslim celestial city, but the Wahabiists – demanded that Mecca receive first place. The Christian Crusaders only cared about the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and Mount Calvary. The Crusaders made the Temple mount a dump deliberately which was reclaimed by the Mamluk Caliphs. The Jews on their part were happy to be able to pray on the Western Wall and at Mount Zion, near David’s Palace. Druze, and Ba’his are also more disposed to accommodations with Christians and Jews. You say, how can a Jew become a a convert to Islam? It makes sense in terms of History. From about 400 AD until 1400 AD most Sephardi Jews wrote and spoke Arabic and produced the Old Testament in Arabic. The Arabs were essentially cousins – members of Abraham’s other children, so the connections were close up until the 1700’s. Britain understood this, and so instituted the Balfour Agreement – thinking the two groups could get along. However Wahabiists were now in charge. There is a belief within Chatham House – in London – that by encouraging Ba’hi and Devishes and Sufis, they can exact peace in the region. So maybe Rabbi Stephen Suleyman Schwartz the Mulim Sufi is an idealist with his head stuck in politics rather than the Word of God – or he may be a GLADIO or a Rhodes Scholar out to help the British Elite. In either case, I can’t say God Bless him. He will have to do with the the blessings of Allah or the Prophet – May the Swartz be upon him! [ jcdoc.org ].

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