“It is recited by millions of Muslims and Arab Christians every day.”
In daily and regular contact with Arab Christians for sixteen years, I never once heard any one of them ever say “Allahu akbar.” In discussing this with some of them, they said it was because of the use Islamic jihadists made of the phrase. Coptic Christians even avoid using the word “Allah” altogether, because of its close association with the Allah of Islam.
In any case, the establishment media is making an all-out effort to whitewash “Allahu akbar” in the wake of the New York City truck jihad massacre, with articles explaining that it is wonderful in CNN, the New York Times, and elsewhere, including now the New York Daily News. Zainab Chaudry of Hamas-linked CAIR argues that non-Muslims shouldn’t “believe the worst” about “Allahu akbar” because Muslims don’t just scream it while murdering non-Muslims, but use it in a variety of contexts. That is true, but it doesn’t change the fact that Muslims scream “Allahu akbar” while killing infidels because the phrase means “Allah is greater,” not “God is greatest” as she falsely claims here, and is a declaration of the superiority and supremacy of Islam.
Chaudry’s conclusion is chilling: “So the next time you hear Allahu Akbar — whether it’s in a media report, on an airplane, or in a shopping mall, remember that the phrase used by millions of Muslims and Christians daily to praise God regardless of their circumstances, can never be justified for use when harming His creation.”
If you’re hearing it on an airplane or in a shopping mall, you may well be in the midst of a jihad terror attack. But those on that airplane who are conditioned by Zainab Chaudry and the establishment media won’t fight back, and those in that shopping mall won’t run when they hear it, because that would be “Islamophobic.”
And so the casualties will be maximized.
“Extremists distort powerful meaning of ‘Allahu Akbar’ in acts of terrorism,” by Zainab Chaudry, New York Daily News, November 4, 2017:
Allahu Akbar.
It’s one of the most frequently spoken pentasyllabic phrases in the Arabic language.
It is recited by millions of Muslims and Arab Christians every day.
And, at least in the West, it has become wrongly linked to terrorism.
Known as the takbir in Arabic, the phrase literally translates to “God is the greatest.”
American-Muslims like myself are reclaiming it — from both the misguided extremists who have misappropriated it, and the pundits who’ve supported their agenda by deliberately or inadvertently endorsing its weaponization.
This phrase is used in a multitude of ways: in worship or prayer; in moments of happiness or relief; to glorify and reflect on God’s majesty; to express joy and dismay; in appreciation of something that resonates with us….
Unfortunately, the copious amounts of misinformation that exists about Islam and Muslims makes some Americans more inclined to believe the worst.
Islamophobes capitalize on this to exploit terrorist acts involving Muslims as being falsely reflective of Islam.
Understanding appropriate context and consulting legitimate sources is crucial when contemplating religion partly because it can help prevent fear, anger and hatred.
Recently, in a despicable and cowardly attack, the man accused of killing eight people after plowing a Home Depot truck onto a bike path in Manhattan reportedly uttered Allahu Akbar after the incident.
He joins a list of others who’ve reportedly said these words after brutal acts of violence
But don’t be deceived by extremists who use this phrase while waging discord and wreaking terror….
So the next time you hear Allahu Akbar — whether it’s in a media report, on an airplane, or in a shopping mall, remember that the phrase used by millions of Muslims and Christians daily to praise God regardless of their circumstances, can never be justified for use when harming His creation.
JawsV says
Just looking at the photo above is nauseating. Check out the smug expression on the one in the center. Whoever thought we’d be capitulating to hijabs.
Azi says
When you give freedom of expression this is what you get. This is why they don’t have freedom of expression in their countries and in their religion. This is the propaganda that is ridiculing people’s intelligence, and is actually effective against the lesser intelligent.
Speak once against Islam = Death verdict.
Speak against America = Academy award winner / Women of the year
Speak against Israel = Get invited to speak in every College and University and you’ll never have to work again in your life.
gravenimage says
Freedom of speech is not the problem–it is that too many Infidels are clueless about the threat of Islam.
larry says
So many Americans have become like sheep, and sheep get slaughtered.
mari brenner says
Constitutionally protected? Really!!
RichardL says
I actually think this article is a good sign: the stealth jihadis now find it necessary to defend allahu akbar. Apparently more and more people know its real meaning.
I must disagree with you Robert: the Copts I know annoyed me terribly by arguing that God in Arabic is allah. Whenever I asked them what illah then means, they remained silent. Many Copts take offence when a Mohammedan greets them with salam aleikum (I sat next to a couple in a cafe who got very angry at the waiter), but they will use ma’a salama and and inshalla. Super annoying.
Januk36 says
Would you mind giving the answer to what “illah” means to the less enlightened that Bob ?
RichardL says
La illaha ila allah; la means no, illaha is the plural of illah (god) and allah we all know. “No gods except allah”.
The Copts who use allah (and their Arabic bibles use that term) acknowledge that they pray to the same deity as the Mohammedans. I believe that this is a serious mistake.
Januk36 says
I appreciate your answer and see where the confusion on my part comes from. For me “god” or “allah” are kind of generic terms for any deity. I don’t share the view the God of Chrsitianity is the same entity as “allah” however. ““No gods except allah” and “god is greater” are implicitly poyltheistic. Especially the last one, where an alleged greater god is compared to lesser gods.
RichardL says
la illaha ila allah means: la (no) illaha (gods) allah (allah) no gods except allah.
The Copts use it in their Arabic bibles and thus acknowledge that they pray to the same deity as the Mohammedans. Dhimmitude par excellence.
mortimer says
The Mohammedans with their WAR CRY wanted to emphasize that HUBAL-QOS-ALLAH was GREATER than Mighty Aprodite (known as al-Uzza … the GREATEST in Arabic).
The QURAYSH tribe was the tribe of KORÉ (or kora) … THE MAIDEN … i.e. al-Uzza.
The Mohammedans wanted to declare that ALLAH (Hubal or Qos god of war) could EASILY BEAT al-Uzza.
JawsV says
Christianity’s God is Jesus. Islam’s god is Allah. A huge difference. Total opposites.
Jesus is real. There is no Allah, which is warlord Mohammed.
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
RichardL: It is true that in the Arabic language, the Arabs define Allah as god. So what? There are no Arabic Christians. Christianity has been prohibited in Arabia for centuries. Any Christian in Arabia is there as an ex-patriot worker – and would think of God in their native language. You are disagreeing with what Robert Spencer did NOT say. Robert Spencer said the Coptic Christians avoid saying “Allah” in place of “God” and that is true. Coptic Christians do not speak Arabic as a native language.
RichardL says
Hi Patricia, not sure I understand you correctly.
I think you are mixing three things: geography, language and religion. The media do that all the time. Arabic is a language. It is the language that the Copts in Egypt speak and in which the bibles are written. I have never met any Copt who spoke Coptic. God is referred to as allah in all Egyptian bibles I have ever seen.
The country calls itself Arab Republic of Egypt, although geographically it is almost exclusively in Africa. Arab here is meant as islamic. It was a Baathist trick.
If you read Arabic check out Arabic language bibles and you will find allah in them.
Chanah says
Patricia, are you in the understanding that the only Arabs are in Arabia? Because there are Arabs in many countries. For example, Israel has a large Arab population, and many of them are Christian. They are called Christian Arabs. They most likely speak both Hebrew and Arabic.
gravenimage says
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG wrote:
Robert Spencer said the Coptic Christians avoid saying “Allah” in place of “God” and that is true.
…………………………
Actually, Patricia, most Arabic-speaking Christians use “Allah” for “God”.
What they *don’t* do is scream “Allahu Akbar!”, as the dishonest Zainab Chaudry claims.
mortimer says
I agree with RichardL. Eastern Christians have generally NOT done their homework. If they had, we could EASILY DEFEAT ISLAM, because WELL-READ, WELL-STUDIED Eastern Christians could train Western Christians to understand Islam and to debate and refute it. They already know Arabic, one LESS obstacle to a perfect understanding of Islam. If they had done the COUNTERJIHAD intellectualizing, we would be able to take their work and proceed more rapidly forward. I ask Coptic Christians, then, WHY DIDN’T YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK ABOUT ISLAM? WHY DID YOU JUST RELY ON OBSERVATIONS, RATHER THAN ANALYZING THE SOURCE TEXTS AND CRITIQUING THEM?
warren raymond says
The Copts, subjugated people, make the best dhimmies. They excel in Jew-hatred & actively side with the Mohammedans against Israel & Jews. Over the centuries, they must have seen that as a key to their survival, while being kidnapped, murdered & raped. No, they certainly did not do their homework about Islam.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, most dhimmis are not allowed to read the Qur’an or study Islam in an organized manner–just look at the Pact of Umar.
I don’t think that chiding such oppressed people for “not doing their homework” is fair. They are just trying to survive, under horrendous circumstances.
gravenimage says
Richard, Robert Spencer is not saying that Arabic-speaking Christians never use “Allah” for “God”, but that they do not in his experience scream “Allahu Akbar!”. I believe he is correct.
Carolyne says
I have heard a Muslim say “Inshallah” many times, but I have never heard one say “Allahu Akbar.” I believe that “Inshallah means “If God wills.” but who knows? That’s what Muslims have told me and they might be lying as is their habit.
I will dismiss the suggestion that I don’t run if I hear “Allahu Akbar” and will certainly run to the nearest safe place. I know the intent.
On the subject of low intelligence people, I saw on Watter’s World Saturday night that Americans don’t know who fought in the Revolutionary War, one of them though France won. One of them thought we bought Paris from France. There were other similar answers. Is it any wonder that many Americans don’t understand Islam’s intent?
Santa Voorhees says
Carolyne, indeed, there are many americans that are ignorant.
I watched some videos as well. Many americans don’t even know who fought who in WW2, they can’t name one of the founding fathers, they can’t name 3 countries in Europe, they can’t tell what their flag represents or how the country was born out of the civil war with the UK.
This is frightening…
gravenimage says
I find it distressing that so many Americans are so ignorant of history.
Hari Singh says
Why would an Arab Christian say a Muslim war cry that has announced the deaths of millions of Christians?
Yell ”Allah Hu Akbar” anywhere and the police will come and passersby will flee.
Januk36 says
It would be fun horsing around in their news room screaming Aalluakbar.
Kay says
to express joy or dismay . . .
in 5 syllables . . .
Westman says
What, does one suppose, would happen if a non-believer shouted Allahu Akbar in front of a busy mosque? Would the “brothers” dive for cover?
Daily News – “…remember that the phrase used by millions of Muslims and Christians daily to praise God regardless of their circumstances, can never be justified for use when harming His creation.”
“..harming his creations??”
What a mouthful of ignorance! “Allah” fully intends to burn and torture the majority of his created humans – the unbelievers – so how is an observant Muslim expected to value non-believers? It’s right in the Qur’an. The hamsters at the NY Daily News are too lazy to get off the media’s wheel and read it. That’s right, NY Daily News, Allah(muhammad), in the Qur’an, has declared war on you and you’re kissing his feet. Muhammad’s most truthful statements – “War is deceit”, and, “I have been made victorious with terror”.
PRCS says
Hamsters.
Heh.
gravenimage says
I’m sure they *would* dive for cover, assuming they were under attack from other Muslims.
I would fear for the wag who tried this, though–he would probably find himself the victim of a mob of violent Mohammedans once they realized no attack was forthcoming.
mortimer says
Januk, I agree! The Leftard hypocrisy and REAL, VALID ISLAMOPHOBIA would be revealed if they heard ALLAH AKBAR in their newsrooms! They would have to change all the carpets.
Keys says
Januk says it might be fun horsing around in the New York Daily News newsroom sreaming Allahu Akbar
Ya, it might remind them of the beautiful region of peace and of the Charlie Hebdo newsroom.
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Zainab Chaudry of the New York Daily News says millions of Arab Christians say Allahu Akbar every day. No need to be accurate or truthful when reporting or editorializing for Fake News, especially when that might get in the way of the Fake News agenda.
Some muslims do not want kaffirs (non—muslims) to utter Allah.
http://world.time.com/2013/10/15/allah-means-god-unless-youre-a-christian-in-malaysia/
Chrisnj says
American leftists similarly whitewashed everything Hitler said and did in the 1930s and everything Stalin and Mao did in the 40s and 50s. Che Guevara is still a saint of the left. The Islamofascist propaganda machine is dug in deep and has been chillingly effective, in no small part because you just can’t fix left wing stupid.
Santa Voorhees says
Why should we hear Allahu Akbar on an airplane or in a shopping mall to begin with?
Kay says
Someone might be reflecting on God’s majesty. sarc/off
Benedict says
The “beauty” of the expression “Allahu Akbar” is, that it can be used even to “beautify” the most ugly behavior by dedicating it to Allah and without damaging the integrity of Allah. So also when used in connection with a suicide bombing on an airplane or in a shopping mall.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Benedict. Muslims who scream this are consecrating their bloody savagery to “Allah”.
Paul N Silas says
I hear it, I look for cover and pull my Glock 19!
In God we trust
utis says
Good idea. For those who don’t or can’t carry, just locate the source of allah-akbarring and start sorting out your options. Allah-akbarring on a plane follows the pattern of shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theater or making bomb jokes in an airport line. Zero First Amendment protection.
Paul says
New York Daily News: Don’t “fear” when you hear “Allahu akbar” on an airplane
or in a shopping mall
Leftists are just absolute scum through and through and they desperately want
as many innocents to be murdered as possible. Now they are just showing their
hand. They can also get sympathy by showing crocodile tears and false shock
when these atrocities inevitably occur (largely facilitated by their activism).
We know that the jihadis are evil people on the way to hell, but what does that
say about their leftist enablers in the MSM and beyond?
RichardL says
@Januk36
la illaha ila allah means: la (no) illaha (gods) allah (allah) no gods except allah.
The Copts use it in their Arabic bibles and thus acknowledge that they pray to the same deity as the Mohammedans. Dhimmitude par excellence.
RichardL says
@ Moderator
Can you please strike two of my postings: my browser didn’t show them. Sorry!
Januk36 says
I’v read and appreciated your previous post answering my question.
gravenimage says
Richard, Arabic-speaking using the term “Allah” for “God” is no more indicative of their worshipping the horrific deity of Islam than is German-speaking Christians using the term “Gott” for “God” indicative of their worshipping the savage pagan Odin.
Sometimes language is just that.
Nothing that Arabic-speaking Christians do indicates that they perceive God to be the same as the barbaric Muslim God.
In fact, Muslims are *enraged* that Arabic-speaking Christians use “Allah”, because they know that the Christian God is *not* the the same thing they worship:
“Malaysia blocks distribution of 30,000 Bibles that use ‘Allah’ for ‘God’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/03/malaysia-blocks-distribution-of-30000-bibles-that-use-allah-for-god
The Remorseless Headsman says
Yeah, right. IIRC, “Hiel Hitler” was once a very popular pentasyllabic phrase. Then again, it most likely still is with the “Allahu akbar” crowd.
The Remorseless Headsman says
Okay, so it’s not pentasyllabic but you should understand my meaning.
The Remorseless Headsman says
And I mis-spelled Heil. Lesson learned, stay away from posting the morning after a time change.
gravenimage says
It’s fine–I knew what you meant. 🙂
Michael Copeland says
“Anyone shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ in Venice will be shot.”
Mayor of Venice
Santa Voorhees says
And yet the Mayor of Florence said he distanced himself from that statement!
How could any sane person distance himself from that statement? That’s the thing to do!
But hey, at least that’s better than the Mayor of London, who said that terror is part and parcel of living in a big city… (except in Tokyo, the biggest city in the world but shhh don’t tell anyone….)
Michael Copeland says
“When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world.
Shout, ‘Allahu Akbar,’ because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers.
God said: ‘Strike above the neck, and strike at all of their extremities.'”
Mohammed Atta, instructions to 9/11 killers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/30/terrorism.september113
gravenimage says
Yes–this *is* used to strike fear in the victims of Islam.
SAM says
I can’t express my disgust of this picture. I can not even read about this disgusting cult called ISLAM and about their disgusting members called Muslims.
JawsV says
Wholly agree.
Timothy McAlee, Sr. G.eD. says
These Muslim fanatics believe that “allah” will Reward them with 72 Virgins & they could Not be more Wrong! Mohammad was a Dyslexic & misread the Quran! It says, “with 27 Virgins, will I reward YOU, BUTT YOU, won’t know if they are Male, or female, until YOU GET HERE SUCKERS”!!@!!
Benedict says
Once upon a time there was a man who spoke the immortal words: “the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.”
If Job himself had “taken away” his children by some heinous act, he would instead have cried out: “Allahu Akbar!”
And that’s the “beauty” of this expression: it can be used to “beautify” the most ugly behavior by dedicating it to Allah and without damaging the integrity of Allah.
The fatalistic religion of Muhammad obstructs personal responsibility. Trying to convince a murderer, who is a Muslim, that he has done something wrong, is a futile endeavor. He will stubbornly insist that he was acted upon, and that his reaction was the automated will of Allah.
Islam is an elaborate system to justify the blame and the killing of others, especially the Jews, and it spells the end of any civilized society that falls under its spell.
Michael Copeland says
“And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them.”
Koran 8:17
part of Islamic law
LeftisruiningCanada says
This is likely why so many jihadis, upon being captured after attacking someone, claim to ‘not know what they had done’ or that they “don’t remember”, or some other line basically passing the blame on to allah.
Sarah says
6 weeks in a black site somewhere, where the Geneva Convention does not exist and I guarantee they’ll start remembering quick smart, if they think it’ll save them from their fate.
Cowards. Scumbags, sexually obsessed pigs. God I hope those black sites are still secretly running somewhere out there..
Benedict says
Indeed! The Koran:
8:17) So the fact is that it was not you, but it was Allah Who killed them; and it was not you when you threw [sand at them], but it was Allah Who threw it,14 (and the believers were employed for the task) that He might cause the believers to successfully pass through this test. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
but what is the difference between this verse and psalm 44:3, MC:
“For they got not the land in possession by their own sword, neither did their own arm save them: but thy right hand, and thine arm, and the light of thy countenance, because thou hadst a favour unto them.”
– ?
Kay says
Speaking of the reality and importance of the spiritual world.
Not bymight. Not by power. But by my spirit.
PRCS says
threw [sand at them]
Reminds me of a Charles Atlas advertisement.
Michael Copeland says
The psalms are not part of US law.
The Koran is part of Islamic law.
Denying any verse is punished with death, vigilante-style, penalty-free.
religionofpeace says
Next time when a Muslim come close and cry “die infidel”, we all should not be afraid because millions of Muslims recite “elimination of infidel” every day.
Allahu Akbar, die you all pagans.
JW_Reader says
The Politically correct google translates “Allahu Akbar” to “Allah is the Greatest”. But, google translates ‘Akbar’ as ‘larger’. So, the term ‘Akbar’ could mean ‘great’ or ‘greater’ depending on the context. Is this how it is meant to be? May be some native Arabic speaker could explain.
gravenimage says
“Allahu Akbar” does not mean “God is the Greatest”, but “Allah is Greater”–in other words, “Our God is Greater than Your God”.
This is, essentially, a violent taunt, like a bully threatening to sic his big brother on the little kids on the play ground.
Jaladhi says
Muslim liars at work – after every Muslim terrorist attack these people come out of the woodwork and claim falsely that the terrorist is not Muslims and he had nothing to do with Islam , so how can allahu akbar have anything to do with terror.
Utter nonsense propagated by Muslims and supported by our media and political leaders!
David says
Islam sucks!
JawsV says
I’ve thought that since 9/11.
David says
Islam islam islam! Run!
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Allahu akbar, allaaaahu akBAR……..ALlllaaaaaaaaaahu akbaaaar alllaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhu akbar”.
See, it’s so beautiful. If leftists and their pet jihadis have their way, we’ll all be having the chance to hear that squealed out at the start and finish of the adan fives times a day.
But that’s a good thing, it being so beautiful and all.
utis says
The Copts are probably practicing protective imitation, a survival tactic in the animal world: a butterfly has markings like another butterfly species that is toxic to predators. The predators leave them all alone, missing out on a good meal of harmless butterflies. Not that allah-akbarring does the Copts much good.
In any case, I recall reports of Malays or Indonesia (I forget which, maybe both; it’s all Dar-al-Islam) forbade dhimmi Christians from using “Allah” instead of “God” in bible translations. So much for the “we all believe in the same God” Big Lie.
Karen says
“Islamophobes capitalize on this to exploit terrorist acts involving Muslims as being falsely reflective of Islam.”
In reading a bit about the phrase, several sources cite Mohammad as being the first to use it, to rally the troops at the battle of Badr, an important turning point in the development of Islam. Prior to this battle, Islam had few followers and those were centered in and around Medina.
Mohammad’s victory at Badr energized Islam which rapidly extended outward, both through peaceful means, and by military conquest. It was also post-Badr that Mohammad seemed to change from rising religious-political figure to triumphant authoritarian, beheading 600 Jews who were viewed as traitors for not joining him in battle.
There seem to be numerous dualities in Islam; questions regarding its expansion, slavery, women’s rights, treatment of religious minorities all have more than one answer. Many of the answers we get don’t seem to square with history, and come from people anxious to craft a particular image of Islam; hence the incredible claims of Mohammad being an early feminist, and such.
So, is ‘allahu akbar’ an innocuous phrase like ‘have a nice day’, or an echo from war, like ‘remember the Maine’. Like so much of history, including the history of Islam, the answer is tied up in tradition, myth, and Islamic dualities.
LeftisruiningCanada says
The latter, for sure.
Pious muslims want to live in the ‘glory days’ of 632 – 732, and crying allahu akbar gives them the feeling that they are in the long line of infidel slaying jihadis before them.
commonsense says
“Chaudry’s conclusion is chilling: ‘So the next time you hear Allahu Akbar — whether it’s in a media report, on an airplane, or in a shopping mall, remember that the phrase used by millions of Muslims… can never be justified for use when harming His creation.’”
Chaudry insinuates, by this blatantly false assertion, that Islam, correctly practiced and understood, forbids murder of non-Muslims. This mendacious nonsense, of course, has been repeated and asserted ad nauseam by Muslim apologists over the years, especially since the atrocity of 9-11. But for those who are still unfamiliar with the content of the infallible Koran, I will cite just five passages within that unholy book that give the lie to Chaudry’s insinuation:
5:33 – “Those that make war against Allah and his apostle (i.e. Muhammed</em) and spread disorder in the land shall be slain or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land. They shall be held up to shame in this world and sternly punished in the hereafter: except those that repent before you reduce them. For you must know that Allah is forgiving and merciful." (In other words, accept the supremacy of Muhammed or suffer the consequences.)
9:111 – “Allah has purchased form the faithful (i.e. the Muslims) their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for the cause of Allah, they will slay and be slain. Such is the true promise which he has made them in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Koran. And who is more true to his pledge than Allah? Rejoice, then in the bargain you have made. That is the supreme triumph.”
9:73 – “Prophet (i.e. Muhammed), make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.”
9:29: – “Fight against such as those (i.e. Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Magians) to whom the Scriptures were given as believe in neither Allah nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what Allah and his apostle have forbidden, and do not embrace the True Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.”
9:5 – “When the sacred months are over, slay the idolators (this can also mean Jews and Christians, who are said to worship others besides Allah) wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy (in other words, become Muslims) allow them to go their way. Allah is forgiving and merciful.”
There are scores of such passages in the Koran demanding that believers take an active role in the waging of war against unbelievers. Death as a mujahid, i.e. a holy warrior who is killed in the act of fighting and killing unbelievers, is the only sure way of gaining admission to Paradise. Liars like Chaudry, time and again, get away with their egregious falsehoods because of willful ignorance and cowardice on the part of the majority of those in media, law enforcement, and government. I see no end to this deplorable and dangerous situation. It will end badly for us.
Demsci says
“//Liars like Chaudry, time and again, get away with their egregious falsehoods because of willful ignorance and cowardice on the part of the majority of those in media, law enforcement, and government”//
Yes, and this is because so many Westerners who know, and like and have to coexist with Muslims, or have to be teachers to their children, who DESIRE to excuse Muslims, and then Islam, because they want to treat Muslims as fair as possible, and avoid discrimination against them or anger from them (a bit like the Copts).
And so, in answer to the passages in Quran (and Hadiths and Sira) the Western Islam-defenders will repeat after the Islamic apologists that:
Those passages are as bad as like passages in the Old Testament. Thereby implying that those passages are only timebound and DEScriptive, no longer PREScriptive.
This is a lie, I know, but one that needs to be countered, I think. I don’t know how, but if descriptiveness and prescriptiveness are both possible and both massively in use by Muslims,
Then if “Islam is both clear and bad”approach fails, we may have to experiment with the idea that “Islam is MULTI-interpretable, see descriptive AND prescriptive explanation at the same time.
And Islam therefore is dangerous because of this multi-interpretability and the widespread interpretation of PRESCRIPTIVE among Muslims.
This then may sway the Western Islam-defenders (or at least embarrass them), because it affords Muslims a choice between DEScriptive and PREScriptive interpretation. And therefore this avoids “painting all Muslims with one brush” but still allows Western governments to mildly and precisely discriminate on grounds of choosing Islam, this Risky religion. As a first babystep.
Karen says
“And Islam therefore is dangerous because of this multi-interpretability and the widespread interpretation of PRESCRIPTIVE among Muslims”
Yes. This is amply demonstrated by the many terrorist attacks the perpetrators ascribe to Islamic theology.
commonsense says
Sorry about the excessive use of italics in regard to my citing of Koranic verse 5:33. But I think the message itself is clear enough.
MFritz says
They forgot to add: “If you’re a muslim.”
JawsV says
Yes, not beautiful to Jews and Christians.
Guest says
No be very afraid. If you here that any where. You must prepare to possibilities: to run and hide, or fight
Steven RSA says
I’ve heard it shouted once. And followed by the words ‘Rape white women!”. It pleases me to report I gave the shouter cause to reflect.
gravenimage says
Good for you, Steven. Where did this happen?
Sun says
The following is the Arabic transliteration and the English translation of the Islamic call to prayer from the mosque by the muezzin:
Allahu Akbar
God is Great
(said four times)
Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
(said two times)
Ashadu anna Muhammadan Rasool Allah
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
(said two times)
Hayya ‘ala-s-Salah
Hurry to the prayer (Rise up for prayer)
(said two times)
Hayya ‘ala-l-Falah
Hurry to success (Rise up for Salvation)
(said two times)
Allahu Akbar
God is Great
[said two times]
La ilaha illa Allah
There is no god except the One God
Meanwhile you’ll hear this call also in some Western Countries. Don’t be afraid.
Ren says
“Constitutionally covered”
The Constitution does not cover incitement to murder. Therefore it does not cover islam. BAN IT.
SK says
Who would yell it on a plane? Who would yell it in a shopping mall?
Jihadists use it to indicate that they are not only reflective of, but inspired by their view of Islam.
This idea has staying power because it is useful for understanding what kind of thing is going on, and what the intent of the offending individual is. It is not a concern about how Robert or Geller or anybody else feels about the faith.
Prior to 9/11, Muslims weren’t known to yell Arabic phrases randomly in public. It was not a normal thing to do. Prove me wrong.
Shmoovie says
Agreed, SK.
How often had most or ANY of the passengers of those flights heard that phrase being spoken (or shouted) in public before that day?
Today, if it were not in the midst of an attack, I’d have to assume it was being used to FRIGHTEN or INTIMIDATE infidels.
Similar to the two muslim men who were yelling back & forth to each other in Arabic on a plane for fun, and when confronted, claimed innocence and lied about the ‘conversation’ they were having. Disgusting; they knew precisely what reaction they were trying to provoke.
gravenimage says
New York Daily News: Don’t “fear” when you hear “Allahu akbar” on an airplane or in a shopping mall
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My God, what a load of crap–even the very “politically correct” who insist Islam has nothing to do with terrorism would hit the floor or run for the nearest exit if they heard someone screaming “Allahu Akbar!”.
Zainab Chaudry must be hoping to increase the body counts in the next Jihad terror attacks, if Infidels can be convinced that trying to save yourself when Jihadists are screaming “Allahu Akbar!” is “Islamophoabic”…
Shmoovie says
“Load of crap” = spot-on.
As if the most tolerant muslim-hugger wouldn’t turn a hair if he heard it echoing while in a mall, or squeezed inside a plane.
Brother.
Lydia says
It mostly precedes a jihad massacre, so if you have nothing against that, no worries!
And Arab Christians would be saying “Jesus is greatest!” because the Christian God involves the Trinity; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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TKF says
Sorry Zainab Chaudry, but that train left the station a looong time ago and it ain’t coming back. The phrase “Allah Akbar” is now and forever, irrevocably, irretrievably, the battle cry of ISLAMIC terrorism, to the utter irrelevancy of any and all other meanings this term may have.
Zainab old sport, have you ever considered renouncing your crazy faith and becoming a contributing member of the rational, secular world? Instead of chanting this mindless, supremacist mantra a hundred times a day, put down the religion drug and do something constructive with all that time you’ll save. Top of the list…..LEAVE Islam.
gravenimage says
Here’s the appalling Zainab Chaudry, demanding that no one be allowed to notice that the massacre in Orlando was Jihad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXqHTy2yZdo
She claims that it was *hard for Muslims* to hear the Infidels reporting on a Jihad terror attack during Ramadan–as thought the perpetrators were the victims.
She then has the gall to demand that Gay leaders speak out for against any criticism of the Muslims who have just mass-slaughtered them.
She also says that Muslims should not and cannot be expected to report Jihad plots to the FBI.
Disgusting dhimmitude from the interviewer, as well.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“She then has the gall to demand that Gay leaders speak out for against any criticism of the Muslims who have just mass-slaughtered them.”
The gall of these taqiya merchants knows no bounds.
Someone mentioned a psychological manipulation technique called “gaslighting’ on here a few weeks back, and when these liars go on like this, it does indeed feel like they are trying to cause insanity in those that hear them.
gravenimage says
All true.
gravenimage says
And here she is on the Jihad terror attacks in Brussels, falsely claiming that no religion condones terrorism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr10v4uMap8
She then has the gall to blame the Jihad in Europe on Europeans on “religious intolerance” and “discrimination”. That religious intolerance is not Muslims slaughtering Infidels, of course, but Europeans being leery of Jihadists.
She then demands that Europeans fork over even more resources to Muslims.
Then she openly lies and says that Jihad terror is not limited to “any one faith group”.
She then drones on about the phantom “backlash” against Muslims–and the dhimmi host enables it.
There’s similar crap from her in the wake of other Jihad terror attacks, like the Christmas attack in San Bernardino–there, she blames not Jihadists, but journalists for daring to report Jihad.
kabooooooooooooooooooooom says
If a few muzz jihad chappies invaded the NY Daily News, newsroom to exact some Charlie Hebdo style justice and the incumbents leaped to their feet and collectively yelled Aloha Snackbar; might it give the muzz chappies some pause?
Does the koran address such challenges?
CelticToTheBone says
One could hope they get away with a slight scolding – but I doubt it!
gravenimage says
Well, this is just sick. The idea that murderous Jihadists would be taken aback if their victims yelled “Allahu Akbar!” is just ridiculous.
abad says
No real Christian, Arab or otherwise, would ever address God as Allah.
gravenimage says
Sure they would–and they do. That doesn’t mean they are worshipping the same vicious deity of the Muslims.
eduardo odraude says
New Yorkers, teach the New York Daily News a lesson: stop buying their rag for a long time so that maybe they will learn not to publish idiotic deadly lies like that news story.
Politicianphobia says
and if they have a gun, it is only to protect you, and if per chance they shoot you, they did not mean to, geeeez they are just a poor Muslim trying to make friends. Peace be upon you.
Politicianphobia says
Sadly one also must remember people getting off overcrowed train cars and being told “Now you will have a nice warm shower”.
Dustin Koellhoffer says
If someone starts screaming “Allahu Akbar” near me in a public place the gun is coming out.
Dustin Koellhoffer says
They want to make us complacent so when the jihadis attack we stand there like deer in the headlights.