“Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is.”
She should feel a pit in her stomach because of the people who were murdered, but no, she is more worried about the image of Islam.
Is terror really the evil opposite of what Islam is?
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“When your Lord inspired to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.'” (Qur’an 8:12)
“And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know, whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
A hadith has Muhammad saying: “I have been made victorious with terror.” (Bukhari 4.52. 220)
“So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim, and they fear being tarred with this kind of thing.”
Non-Muslim New Yorkers might justly fear being thrown down violently into the tar of the road by a vehicle being used in jihad.
The idea of some backlash by racist redneck yahoos against innocent Muslims after jihad terror attacks is a media fiction with no basis in reality.
“A Terrorist Attack in Lower Manhattan,” by Anna Russell and Ben Taub, New Yorker, October 31, 2017:
…At the time of the attack, on West Street, Annie Thoms, an English teacher at Stuyvesant High School, was leading a class discussion on Amy Tan’s book “The Joy Luck Club” in Room 838. Stuyvesant looms over the scene. Just afterward, an assistant principal came on the loudspeaker telling everyone that classes would be on a “shelter in” status, with no one allowed in or out of the building. Everyone was to stay put and pass the time. Speaking by phone after 6 P.M., Thoms said that she had been with her twenty-eight students for three hours.
“We were talking about the different ways we have to make choices in the cultures we are part of. We talked about it in our personal lives and in Amy Tan’s narrative,” she said. “Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is. So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim, and they fear being tarred with this kind of thing.”…
pfwag says
When will somebody ask just one of these “peaceful” Muslims to publicly repudiate all the hateful COMMANDS in the Koran?
p bay says
they would be killed for that
Stephen says
Quite
martin says
That would be pointless due to the practice BY ALL MUSLIMS, of warfare lying.
A muslim can even swear on quran to tell the truth, then lie and lie and lie…. indeed allah said he has ordained for every muslim, a set number of false oaths, which they must make.
abad says
Moslems need to stop worrying about how others perceive them. They really do. They need to stop playing the victim card, and start thinking of non-Moslems for a complete and absolute change.
Moslems are the most self-centered people who ever walked the face of the earth.
gravenimage says
Why would they do that? That would be un-Islamic.
mummymovie says
And it would undermine the victimology subterfuge strategy they pursue so effectively everywhere- one of the primary components of the global jihad.
revereridesagain says
The perfect religion for the “Look What You Made Me Do!” generation.
Any honest Muslim entering adulthood would take a good hard look at his or her religion, recognize that it is evil to the core, man (or woman) up and go apostate. It is not a death sentence. The winner of the “Draw Mohammad” contest is living proof of that, though it is true that courage and integrity will be required. And having your relatives who are still stuck in the Islamic tar pits is a small price to pay at worst and an added benefit for any rational apostate. This war can’t be won by giving in to Islam — but by Muslims giving up on Islam. Voluntarily if possible. If not, other measures will have to be taken, because there is no longer any middle ground.
mgoldberg says
arab culture, muslim culture is specifically concerned with how they look. It is not about how objectively factual things are, but how they are seen, and perceived.
that is why they are so insanely driven to be seen one way and at the same time, so utterly resistant to criticism, critiqueing and discussion about what they objectively are, and represent…. like leftists.
p bay says
they are the best of people, muslims read in the koran
carol says
It’s a sign that gut instinct is telling them what their creed really deserves. The more innocent ones are trying to hold hands in the dark. The vile ones are full of blood-lust.
Anne Dunn says
They are aren’t they ! Islam ! The most maligned , misunderstood cult on earth ! Haha ! That would be funny if it wearent so damn serious .. Islam , the mascarade that never ends ! I don’t understand how this terrible organization keeps on going ? It just does though , no matter how unholy , unsavoury , how downright wicked it is , It gets a free pass every time ! All I can say is , that it didn’t take ME too long to see through it’s mask of deception .. I see it for exactly what it is .. the most dangerous , wicked ideology , in the world today ! And I will resist it’s polluting influence for the rest of my life .
Emilie Green says
“because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is”
Fewer and fewer are willing to buy this seven-day old bread.
Terrorism is the very essence of Islam.
“I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam…
“Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion.”
Osama bin Laden, May 1998
Jim says
Islam is not, nor has it ever been, a religion. It is a cult of death, founded by the Charles Manson of the day, a sexual pervert who liked to preach murder and hatred.
p bay says
we should pull Charlie Manson out of prison and make him head of islamic relations in the USA
Veracious_one says
As Khomeini said, “There is no fun in Islam”
jewdog says
Right, we Western non-Muslims are racist Islamophobes, but Muslims are always victims with understandable grievances. Better not look too closely at their holy books, though, because that could cause some cognitive dissonance.
gravenimage says
New Yorker on NYC jihad massacre: terror is “evil opposite” of Islam, Muslims “fear being tarred”
…………………..
Well, the first part is a lie–the second part is correct, though–Muslims don’t want to be found out, and if dhimmi idiots like this teacher have their way, they never will be. *Ugh*.
PRCS says
Yes, note that it was a teacher who said that.
What other nonsense is she filling those skulls full of mush with?
dumbledoresarmy says
She’s not a Muslim herself. She says she has Muslim students in the school. I can only assume she has gotten plenty of soft-soap flowery dawah nothings poured into her ears by doe-eyed hijabi mamas and nicely-besuited papas. So I must assume that the line ‘terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is” was fed to her by a Muslim. Because it can be read as a classic piece of mohammedan doublespeak.
Remember: Islam divides the world into two things: dar al Harb (the zone of War); and dar al Islam, the Zone of Submission. From the Islamic POV, the ‘evil opposite’ of Islam is.. us. The dar al Harb. *We* are the ‘terrorists’, the ‘harbis’. Remember that in Saudi Arabia, *atheism* was defined as ‘terrorism’. There is a sense in which everything non-Islamic, but in particular, any act of resistance to Islam, any criticism or questioning of Islam, any opposition presented to the advance and imposition of islam, is …”terrorism”, from the Muslim POV.
*We* are *all* evil terrorists, harbis, by definition. WE – simply by being kuffar – ARE ‘the evil opposite of Islam’.
This foolish teacher was told the truth, so to speak, but in a form that her Muslim instructor/s – deceiver/s – knew she would hear in terms of her own ‘interpretive grid’, which would of course mislead her.
gravenimage says
Yes–I’m sure she has been lied to about Islam, and passes along these lies in her classes. It is clear that this Jihad terror attack right outside here classroom’s window will do nothing to get her to take a closer look at “the religion of peace”.
PRCS says
I wonder how she’ll process the NYC jihadi’s explanation of Islam.
gravenimage says
Probably by ignoring it entirely, PRCS.
fbijihadidefender says
In fact, Islam is evil. Muslim fear being tarred just because they know Islam is evil and they are follower of evil Islam.
abu_lahab says
It’s one of the many tools in the chest that moslems use to push back any criticism.
Just laugh it off in the same way you would if child told you about their imaginary friend.
Ban islam! Save civilized society.
Georg says
“She should feel a pit in her stomach because of the people who were murdered…”
Thank you. Brings to mind a Middle-Eastern professor I had in college who only discussed the plight of Muslims and Sikhs perceived as Muslim being spat upon or kicked as the towers were burning and falling. As though that was the tragedy of the day. She said it with a look of fury, with long bouts of silence between repetitive statements. One of the most offensive experiences of my life.
In this time where the obvious is elusive and must be stated, this bold proclamation must be made: The victims of terrorism are the victims of terrorism.
That that must be said is a sad commentary on the state of us.
gravenimage says
This does not surprise, Georg. Did *anyone* call her on this?
gravenimage says
“Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is.
……………………………..
Everyone who screams “Allahu Akbar!” before slaughtering Infidels is a pious Muslim.
More:
So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim, and they fear being tarred with this kind of thing.”
……………………………..
Do any of them actually condemn Jihad terror–even as paying lipservice? I bet most of them don’t–but this dhimmi teacher would no doubt consider it “Islamophobic” to ask…
revereridesagain says
“So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim.” That is very, very bad news.
mummymovie says
I wholeheartedly agree; very very bad news, indeed.
STOP THE HIJRA
END REFUJIHAD
Eur says
At the school where my nephews go, there are now children from a Muslim family. Until those children arrived, my nephews did not know what hell was, they had never heard mention it. Now the Muslim children call pigs, infidels and that they are going to go to hell to the children who eat loin, ham … That’s what the Muslim parents teach them … they teach them to hate non-Muslims.
gravenimage says
Horrible, Eur. And it they are joined by others, they will no doubt start bullying the non-Muslim children.
SAM says
Some liberals must be finding the truth about evil Islam right? They can not be all blind even if they have been brainwashed in hating America.
Don’t they see that whenever there is a Jihadi attack nothing is mentioned about the ideology behind the terror. Nothing about the mosque the Jihadi attends nothing about his Muslim friends and family. No connection to Koran or Islam.
Liberals have to see that it is Islam and yes the Muslims are the terrorists. How can anybody close his eyes to reality right in their face DAILY.?
Kay says
This is how:
They don’t know Mohammedism or Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism. They think all religions are pretty much the same, a way to make one feel better in this stressful world and possibly give hope of life after death.
They go to the extreme of not admitting there are any patterns in human behavior; they. proclaim every person is an individual with no responsibility to or influence from any other— all self made.
They believe that some early bad break leads to later criminality. So they are ready to be compassionate toward the often claimed “mental illness” or they see poverty and lack of opportunity even if it isn’t fact.
They read the MSM and believe they are told the truth.
They don’t want to be “racist” and the charges they’ve heard against others lead them to believe they’re more righteous and so they blinder themselves.
Most people I know do all these things.
Arthur says
It would be interesting to give them a written quiz on religion and then witness the shock at their poor grade. Even more so, the shock of reviewing their answers.
NedS says
Read the Huffington Post story on this teacher. This is the third Islamic terrorist attack she has personally witnessed and she still makes this comment?? Insanity! Denial!!
gravenimage says
Bleah….
This deep denial is not uncommon, I’m afraid.
StacyGirl says
Look at the politicians elected at every level of government: Hillary the former carpetbagger, Schumer, Douche-Blasio, the Cuomo crime family, Bloomberg.,, Seems like they’re getting what they vote for here. In spades.
TKF says
I am so sick of Islam. If I could wave a wand and make it vanish from the face of the earth I would not hesitate for a second. It is a blight on the planet. To deny it is to ignore a mountain of evidence as well as a mountain of bodies. It cannot be reformed. It is beyond redemption. It must be fought and defeated. The other option is completely unacceptable and unthinkable. Slavery. We can’t let this medieval belief system drag humanity back eight hundred years. Just say NO to Islam.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
No progress in this fight will happen until rags like the New Yorker go belly-up and people like Russell and Taub find more suitable work like cleaning offices after hours.
PRCS says
Do note, the authors were quoting a teacher.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
noted. and your point is …
PRCS says
They were quoting.
RCCA says
Muslims don’t think much of non-Muslims, if the assumption after an attack is that non-Muslims are going to take revenge on any or all Muslims. Do Muslims see non-Muslims as inferior “others?” Is that the reason Muslims are fearful? Is it fair to say Muslims are bigoted? Isn’t that the point here because the backlash hasn’t ever actually happened, except for some minor episodes. Or is the situation that Muslims know that the jihad attacks will be continuing, and will only get worse? That’s why some backlash is inevitable?
Too bad defending their religion is more important than protecting innocent people. Very sad.
dumbledoresarmy says
the Muslims are *projecting*.
They are afraid that non-Muslims, when attacked by Muslims, will do to any Muslim they can find, what Muslims routinely do in Islamic countries to *any and all* members of the subjugated and defenceless dhimmi communities, whenever there is so much as a *rumour* that one member of that community has done somehting-or-other deemed offensive to Islam/ Muslims. A rumour is spread, say, that an infidel boy has looked at a Muslim girl… screams of rage, the howling mob pours from the mosque and lynches the boy, his family, his community, his church or temple. A rumour is spread in a Pakistani town, that a local Christian or Hindu has damaged a bit of paper with some Koranic verses on it: howls of rage and the Mohammedan mob descnds on the nearest Hindu or Christian community and rapes, robs, burns, pillages and KILLS.
That is what Muslims do. Muslims have *always* dished out ‘collective punishment’ to the kuffar.
So, when one of their own – and they damn well know exactly why, and they approve, behind closed doors – attacks and *kills* infidels, they – because, like other humans, they assume people will do what they would do – imagine Infidel mobs with pitchforks coming to set fire to the mosque or their homes or businesses.
Keys says
“Do unto others anything you would not have them do unto you”.
– The Diabolical Rule
Islam has no Golden Rule. And Muslims believe that to love your enemy is stupidity. Rather, hate your enemy – all non-Muslims – that is virtuous and pleasing to Allah.
Lydia says
They obviously never read the koran!
Time to do their homework.
ploome says
we can only pray that muslims get scared enough to leave USA….and go back to the sh8t whole they came from and the society and civilization they created.
dumbledoresarmy says
The fact that they are NOT fleeing in droves tells us that all their pantomime of victimhood is fake.
In the 1930s, as the shadow of the Third Reich loomed ever larger and darker, every Jew who had any sense at all was hightailing it out of Germany – and Austria, and other parts of Europe – as fast as they could go. *Right now*, infidel residents – if they can manage it – are fleeing from Islamised suburbs of the cities of Western Europe, going to other parts of their own countries that as yet have fewer Muslims. *Jews* are fleeing from Europe *today*… becasue the Muslims are threatening them, and *killing* them. Israel is getting a lot of French Jews arriving, right now.
But,… are the Mohammedans fleeing from Europe by the thousands? Despite their whining and squealing and attempts to represent themselves as ‘the new jews”. NO. Instead, they are continuing to flood INTO Europe. And America. And every other part of the West, and into India, and elsewhere. Which makes absolute bloody nonsense of their constant claim to be oh-so-persecuted and put-upon in those countries.
gravenimage says
Exactly–Muslims continue to flood into the US and the rest of the West, which would *hardly* be the case if they were terrified of “Islamophobes” here.
Kay says
Good point.
M says
They are here to take over and take advantage of our welfare and take what they did not build and did not earn. The ruin every place the go bcs Islam is a nihilistic death cult. When will the left wake up and see how twisted and perverted Islam is? What kind of ideology is it that says a woman should wear a black bag and be segregated and subjugated? “Feminists” never ask.
ploome says
we can only pray that muslims get scared enough to leave USA….and go back to the sh8t whole they came from and the society and civilization they created.
gravenimage says
Muslims are not scared here–saying so is just an attempt to prevent Infidels from talking about Jihad being a key part of Islam.
More Ham Ed says
A sobering reminder and/or for any JW visitors below.
A 2013 rather left-leaning survey:
Penalty for Converting to Another Faith – The percentage that believe this is 67.60% based on ten Muslim majority countries in the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa. Based on the Muslim population of those countries, that results in close to 400 million people (at a minimum) who firmly believe in the death penalty for leaving Islam.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
Show me where 400 million Christians believe in a death penalty punishment imposed by men for leaving the faith.
Show me where 400 million Hindus believe in a death penalty punishment imposed by men for leaving the faith.
Show me where 400 million Buddhists believe in a death penalty punishment imposed by men for leaving the faith.
MFritz says
Look, this lady is an English teacher. She most likely hasn’t been to ANY muslim country in her whole life. And she also would never EVER read any publication that’s not “on her political line”. The ivory tower most certainly is a safe space. It keeps reality out.
Troybeam says
Any Muslim who knew about the attack or suspected should have come forward if they truly claim to despise this act of terror, now the Catch 22: Islam does not allow its followers to turn on each other to do so is against the teachings. All in all: never trust a Muslim.
Robert_K says
“Every time a Nazi Concentration Camp was liberated, I felt a pit in my stomach, because the Holocaust was the evil opposite of what National Socialism was. ”
“So many kids in Germany were Hitler Youth, and they were tarred with this kind of thing.”
How is this a parallelization of , Annie Thoms, the English teacher at Stuyvesant High School?
Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is.”
“So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim, and they fear being tarred with this kind of thing.”
unbeliever 1 says
These comments by the NYPD is all about doing PR for Islam.They are more interested in protecting this religion than they telling the truth or protecting citizens.
Wonder if the terrorist took out insurance on that truck.
Ian anderson says
Islam is a religion as much as helps angels is a religion. STFU
larry says
Islam is evil, evil is Islam. The two sides of the same coin.
Jaladhi says
The morons at New Yorker show how brain dead they are!1 Islam is total evil and terror and nothing else!! Islam spread by terror and intimidation. If Muslims don’t use terror to intimidate other Muslims with loss of life, there will be no Muslim left in Islam.
Sarah says
“Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is.”
Yeah and the rest of us hear ‘terror attack’ and ‘allahu ackbar’ and think ‘Oh God, I hope it wasn’t anyone I loved involved’.
This idiot is worried about Muslims being ‘tarred’. We’re worrying about being blown up. Or run over, or shot, or doused in acid or stabbed – the list goes on and on.
Cry me a river and burn in hell for all I care.
Mark says
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Lor says
“So many of our kids here at Stuyvesant are Muslim, and they fear being tarred with this kind of thing.”…
Makes me wonder if they were ever given a choice about becoming Muslim.
mortimer says
On the duty to Muslims of conducting jihad:
‘There is consensus of opinion’, (Mulana) Azhar argued, ‘amongst researchers of the Quran, that no other particular action has been stated in such great detail as Jihad.’ According to his analysis, the term jihad-fi-sabilillah (‘Jihad in the path of Allah’) was referred to in the Qur’an 26 times, and qital (fighting) 79 times.
-Moulana Mohammed Masood Azhar, the leader of Jaish-e-Mohammed in Pakistan, based much of his book – The Virtues of Jihad – on the importance of fighting as set forth in the Qur’an.
Joel Bama Teague says
They don’t all fight jihad they A shift in other ways . They will hide & feed the jihadist. They will never give them up they will die first. So when ignorant people say that it’s not about Islam they don’t know what they’re talking about it is about is about Islam
carol says
An attack so near the memorial of the World Trade Center is a real faux pas and especially on Hallowed Eve. This could really “stir the pot”.
Halloween is the night all departed souls are allowed to roam the earth again and it is up to us to assuage them by offering gifts of candy etc. Perhaps this deadly, deranged bee swarming our nest will awaken the anger of not just us but of millions of dead and valiant souls demolished by Islamic barbarism.
AMEN.
Troy Laarman says
Ummm the Bible says clearly if you actually read it…the dead are asleep and know nothing…
carol says
I can top that with “gone but not forgotten” and I’ll read my own authority into that one.
marble says
Muslim children in Stuyvesant fear being tarred with the terrorism inherent in Islam? Why are many here? Koran, Chapter 9:2, “Those that have … left their homes and fought for God’s cause with their wealth and with their persons, are held in higher regard by God. V It is they who shall triumph.” A propos for Israelis and anyone else with some Muslim neighbors, “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around our.” That has all been taking place since the seventy century. Just chapters 8 and 9 of the Koran reveal much.
Jacqueleen says
Muslims fear being tarred? But that does not stop them from killing, bombing, running them down from behind (the cowards that they are) I SUGGEST CASTRATION. REMOVE IT ALL!
Terry says
Islam is evil.
Proud Anti-Islam says
Islam is an evil political ideology that creates terrorism. Therefore, Islam and terrorism are together.
TheBuffster says
” “Especially after 9/11, every time I see that something is a terrorist incident, and someone has said ‘Allahu Akhbar,’ I feel a pit in my stomach, because terrorism is the evil opposite of what Islam is. ”
Well then, the Koran and the reliable ahadith are the evil opposite of what Islam is.
People really need to read the Islamic texts for themselves, in full context, and see for themselves what Islam is. By reading those, they’ll also see what hard-core hate speech is, and that no matter what we say about Islam we could never be more insulting and demeaning of Islam than what Islam has to say about unbelievers – kafirs – *us* – and about what we kafirs deserve.
When I read the Koran there wasn’t a page that didn’t condemn to hell the kind of person that has (honest) doubts, questions, rational and ethical objections or who laughs at the laughable things Muhammad passes off as the Word of Allah. And it promises rewards for submissive belief of these unbelievable things and for total obedience to The Messenger of Allah’s instructions. The primary Islamic literature reeks with malice against those who do not believe or who even dares to doubt. It calls us critical minds “the worst of creatures”.
Those who fear all Muslims will be tarred with the same brush as terrorists after every terror attack should find out what the Islamic texts say and then worry about every time an unbeliever decides to read those texts, because *that’s* when you find out first hand what Muslims are *supposed* to believe and that the groups who are waging war against us kafirs are simply taking the texts seriously.
It’s after you read those texts that you have to remind yourself that not everyone who identifies as Muslim *is* – according to the texts – Muslim. There are plenty of “hypocrites” among the Muslims, thank goodness. But the trouble is, we can’t read their minds and tell who will always be a pacific MINO and who will someday turn out to be Islamically well-read and devout.
If the Islamic texts really did teach peace and love and tolerance, then we wouldn’t have to fearfully wonder which Muslim will turn against Islam once they read their texts and which will become a fighter in the Cause of Allah, either with violence or by aiming to legally take away our freedom of speech and press and religion and reduce us to a sub-status. We really *could* think of the jihadists as vicious monsters who have twisted the texts out of context and who have no solid basis in the texts for their supremacist and deadly course. We’d know that the jihadists haven’t an Islamic leg to stand on. We’d know that reading the Koran would put a Muslim on a benevolent moral path rather than turn him into a hateful killer of kafirs, hypocrites, and apostates. (Reading the Koran does sometimes turns a Muslim into an apostate, though.)
But the Islamic texts offer us no such comfort, unless we take the nice bits *out of context*. Dedicated Muslims won’t do that. And if *we* do that we blind ourselves to reality.
Blind people are vulnerable .
Norger says
+1. This level of ignorance about what Islam actually teaches, more than 15 years after 9/11 is just astounding. One of the posters here had a quote a few weeks back to the effect that ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it. Disgraceful that a school teacher would spout pure falsehood as self-evident truth.