Nigel Farage, UKIP’s former leader and someone who once seemed to have a solid understanding of the jihad threat, recently campaigned hard against counter-jihad candidate Ann Marie Waters in her bid for the UKIP leadership, vowing to form yet another new party if she became UKIP’s leader, and saying after she was defeated: “I very much hope she leaves today.”
And now this. Trump himself said it best, tweeting yesterday evening:”.@Theresa_May, don’t focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. We are doing just fine!” The real question is not whether this or that video is accurate, but whether there is a problem with jihad terror and Islamic supremacism in Britain and elsewhere. All that is being lost in the controversy over Trump’s retweets, and Farage of all people should know better.
Farage’s disgraceful cowardice doesn’t surprise me. Last year I approached him at an event where we were both speaking, introduced myself, explained that I had been banned from Britain for noting correctly that Islam has doctrines of warfare against unbelievers, and asked his help to overturn the ban. The 300-watt smile he was beaming in all directions suddenly vanished, along with his confident mien and the color in his face. He began to stammer and sputter. “That’s very difficult,” he muttered. “That’s very difficult.” And that was that. Farage had no reason to stick his neck out for me, of course, but his obvious discomfort over even the prospect of speaking out against my ban suggested a larger discomfort with confronting the real life-and-death problem facing the UK today: Sharia and Islamization, and the present government’s disastrous policy of appeasement and accommodation of Islamic supremacists.
Now Farage’s unwillingness to deal with this problem is manifest to the world.
And again: these were videos of Muslims being violent. They’re only “anti-Muslim videos” if one believes that all Muslims condone this behavior. Is that what LBC thinks?
“Nigel Farage Says Trump Got It Wrong Over Anti-Muslim Retweets,” LBC, November 29, 2017:
Nigel Farage has criticised Donald Trump for retweeting anti-Muslim videos, saying he showed “poor judgement”….
At least one of the unverified videos has been found to be fake, but the White House insists the point about “border security” remains.
Broadcasting from Brussels, the Ukip MEP and Trump ally said the Republican should hold his hands up.
He said: “I do think these videos are very bad taste and he showed poor judgement.
“Of that I have no doubt at all.”
Speaking of the White House’s defence, he added: “I think that was a mistake.
“There are times when perhaps its better to put your hands up and say ‘I got this wrong’ and frankly try to move on”.
D Austin says
Britain borrows a a well-known phrase from the French, “We surrender!”.
Jan Sobieski says
Farage had a call in show several years ago, may still have one. This guy called in and described the muslim problem extremely well – he knew his stuff. Farage was dumbfounded and couldn’t wait to get that caller off the line.. That’s when I knew Farage was not the great hope for GB. Then he trashed Ann Marie confirming it.
dsinc says
Agreed.
Green infidel says
Nigel is a wealthy City Boy, and probably knows a lot of the banking world. He is likely to know all too well where his money is coming from…
mummymovie says
Alas, a ladder-climbing poitician with a lucrative career on the horizon, willing to kick the can down the road; just like the rest of them.
Books, talk shows, guest speaker arrangements, exorbitant speaking fees, etc. etc. etc.
I had my suspicions when I saw the cheeseball cigar.
Phooey!
Itinerant says
Farage did the UK and by extension Europe, a huge service and fought the EU year after year.
The EU is the main driver of demographic and cultural change, if it doesn’t fall, as I doubt meaningful reform is possible, Europe is doomed.
Without the pressure UKIP brought to bear, it’s unlikely a Brexit vote would have been allowed in the first place, never-mind won.
We owe Farage and others like Christopher Booker and Dr Richard North a large debt of gratitude. Meanwhile Brexit is an ongoing process and many want it to fail. There’s likely need for Farage yet.
He wasn’t a career politician and endures some of the most threats and abuse, directed at a political figure in recent times in the UK.
He never rises to the bait.
Opposing Islamisation would bring a whole new level of threat.
I’d say he’s earned the right to pick his battles and the one he’s been fighting, has yet to reach a conclusion.
butros says
if he cant say that the problem is a muslim problem then he is part of the coverup problem…. the brits covered up the hitler problem too until it was too big for them to handle… suicidal fools.
MADPATRIOT says
This man is a mess obviously could care less about the terrible way in which islam destroys lives. This would is in a terrible state to be sure but the fasts are the is this the likes of islam and muslims ta tare at the heart of this evil next to satan. They Are a totalitarian governmental system that is subjugating people and has been for many centuries but worse of recent history for they feel emboldened and think they have conformers. It is a devastating state of humanity when the world will not stand up and tell these horrific manicures with the dark ages nonsense to shut the hell up and that NO ONE has to deal with them that does not want to…FREEDOM IS FREEDOM AND THAT IS JUST WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO STAND UP FOR BECAUSE THE EVIL OF SO MANY PEOPLE IS CHASING IT INTO THE BACKGROUND WITH THE TERRORIST ACTIVITIES OF THESE MANIACAL IGNORANT FOOLS THAT CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIMS OF ISLAM. THEY ARE SATAN’S ARMY AND MUST BE ANNIHILATED—PERIOD. THEY ARE AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT IS TRUE, REAL, GOOD, DECENT, AND OF THE REAL GOD! THEIR ALLAH IS A FIGMENT OF THEIR IMAGINATION!— WAKE THE HELL UP WORLD AND TAKE CARE OF THIS ELEMENT WHEREVER THEY ARE PUSHING THEIR EVIL, MISGUIDED, IGNORANT MUMBO JUMBO NONSENSE AND DO IT NOW! It is not like they are staying in their own country and living as they see fit…OH NO! they are pushing what is a fake evil and horrific indecent way to live and they think it is everyone else that is bad…HA! When i see them which luckily is rare where I am I just want to slap them silly for being so ignorant and believing in such trash that they do….insanity! anyone that would want to be in such a group instead of be free to learn about the true God and be free of such subjugation is out of their minds and evil to the core…REMEMBER THERE ARE NTO MODERATE MUSLIMS OR PEOPLE OF ISLAM…IT IS A PURELY EVIL SYSTEM! AND THIS IS NO ISLAMOPHOBIA…IT IS THE TRUTH!
John says
Britain first is only hope for Britain
concerned canadian says
say it isnt so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
old white guy says
looks like Farage is just one more spineless weasel.
Emilie Green says
“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”
― Winston S. Churchill
gravenimage says
Grimly salient quote, Emile.
Norger says
Fantastic quote in the context of Islam.
Custos Custodum says
Farage like most politicians answers to much larger forces.
underbed cat says
In the U.K. Farage a political figure, would be arrested ( many non muslims do get arrested for speaking the truth) due to self imposed obligation to follow sharia law, the slander laws of sharia forbid the truth and call any criticism even if true or repeat of a verse “hate speech”, you can;’t say anything truthful that may offend.. or show a video of a muslim acting up….that is why they are in such shape they do not have freedom of speech, so Farage was smart to stay silent about this matter….and follow sharia by being deceptive. (cool move)…and sending a naughty boy message….although he may have had his fingers crossed. Which to protect against riots is a good thing…at this point after so many have been accommodated they have no choice just yet. Maybe Trump should delay his trip…..
gravenimage says
underbed cat wrote:
so Farage was smart to stay silent about this matter….
……………………………
Firstly, it is questionable how “smart” cowardice is in general.
But this is worse–Farage is *not* staying silent–instead, he is castigating someone for daring to criticize Muslim violence. This is actively appalling.
Linde Barrera says
Is it possible, no probable, that Nigel Farage has been given a pay-off/bonus/bribe by a certain group? ?
mortimer says
It is very possible Nigel Farage has been bribed or threatened. He would not be the first. Why is ‘bad taste’ more appalling than the vicious truth of jihad?
R Russell says
It was reported some time ago that Nigel Farage had bodyguards because of death threats. Google it and you will find them.
There is a book which says, ‘Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.’
There is a lot of truth in that, but so many don’t want to put their trust in the One the rest of this quotation recommends, thus we are helpless and going round in circles.
eduardo odraude says
It’s quite obvious that anyone in the UK who is a public figure of some sort and criticizes Islam puts him/herself in grave and permanent danger, perhaps even worse danger than Robert Spencer, because the US still has a relatively small population of Muslims. The UK is held hostage. Too few people in the UK are affected as yet by Islam, and by the time the larger population realize what’s going on, it may well be too late for the frog to jump out of the pot. And what are they realistically going to do? Do we expect millions of people to be deported. That would probably lead to civil war, not just between Muslims and non-Muslims, but between non-Muslims, some percentage of whom have ties of family or work to Muslims. And if deportation is impossible, what’s left? Lame anti-radicalization programs? I’m not giving up hope, but things look bad for the future of freedom in that part of Europe. If the non-Muslim population could make a compact with the secular part of the Muslim population to not bring in more Muslims, perhaps a relatively free society can survive long term, otherwise it’s clearly in doubt.
Terry Gain says
The only realistic was of preventing a Muslim conquest is a ban on further immigration. Deporting Muslims will never win public support and is currently illegal.
Savvy Kafir says
Yes, we expect the deportations of millions. If Europe is to survive, that is the only hope.
If it leads to civil war, it will be an unavoidable war. And at least Europe would still have a chance of remaining free & civilized, once the dust settles.
The True Believers of Islam have already declared war on the West. World War III is underway, but only one side is really fighting.
Karen says
Britain can turn things around if they remember their magnificent heritage of equality under the law, and fair play. They need to confidently stand, with no apologies, and insist on: 1) unfettered freedom of speech, no exceptions, 2) one, and only one, legal system for all, 3) absolutely zero tolerance for no-go zones, 4) absolutely zero tolerance for grooming gangs, 5) absolutely zero tolerance for stealth jihad in the school system, 6) absolutely zero tolerance for entry of radical imams.
Michael McDermott says
Karen:
Some chance of that!
Smart guy says
The end result will be Civil War. Ferdinand the King of Spain drove out the Muslims from Spain in 1492 and retook Spain for the Catholic church. The Reformation started in 1517 100 years later in 1616 saw the start of the 30 years war. The English Civil War started in 1643 with the Irish Massacre of 1643. The 30 years war ended in 1646. Civil wars are extremely brutal because civilians are not separated by a front line. “All the great controversy’s of the age are decided by war” Robert E. Lee.
Savvy Kafir says
Karen:
I agree with all six of your suggestions. I would add a few more.
7) Zero tolerance for “Sharia patrols” on the streets of Britain.
8) Arm all police officers, to make them more effective against violent jihadis.
9) Allow law-abiding British citizens to carry guns, pepper spray, knives, etc., so they have a fighting chance against jihadis armed with guns, knives, meat cleavers, axes, etc.
10) Begin deporting Muslims, as the only real, permanent solution to the Demographic Jihad, which many “peaceful, moderate” Muslims are waging in Britain & elsewhere — biding their time & having lots of babies, with the aim of Islamizing the West.
gravenimage says
Smart guy, are you saying that Westerners are going to go to war to protect Jihadists?
Oliver says
Smart Guy,
In 1492 Ferdinand and I Isabelle also forced the Jews out of Spain.
And anti Semitism is still around there.
As it is in much of Europe
Infidel says
I have this susp too… I second Ur op
Custos Custodum says
My guess is Farage is mostly responding to death threats directed at himself and his family.
Note that Farage had at least the basic decency to level with Robert Spencer about the impossibility of having the bizarre UK ban on entry set aside.
Most other politicians would have promised blithely to “see what I can do” and never gotten back.
gravenimage says
I imagine Farage mostly realized that saying anything negative about Islam in the current climat4e is bad for his career.
Januk36 says
Farage has been a great champion against the EU and for British souvereignty for years. Very critical of immigration FROM the EU and of the mess caused by Merkel. But never critizinging the cultural impact of muslim mass immigration. I respect him for his merits and accept that he is not an (open) anti-jihadist.
gravenimage says
He has been at times:
“Nigel Farage: Accepting terrorism as a way of life is ‘appeasement'”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nigel-farage-accepting-terrorism-as-a-way-of-life-is-appeasement/article/2624007
“Nigel Farage says EU leaders caused terror attacks by letting people from ‘different cultures and religions’ live in their countries”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-says-eu-leaders-caused-terror-attacks-by-letting-people-from-different-cultures-and-a3614501.html
He is inconsistent at best, though.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Could be. If a smaller player like Tommy Robinson says he was approached by various UK agencies asking him to be their man inside the EDL, someone like N Farage could hardly avoid their attentions.
I can only imagine how awful it would be to have your family threatened by the State, and to know how powerless you are to protect them against your own country…..while you go about simply trying to protect it.
Yellow Lighthorse says
spot on
Theophilus says
Thanks for sharing that , Robert. I have personally viewed all 3 of the videos and I don’t know what all the fuss is about. If these are inflammatory, anti Islamic videos, then the graphic news reporting of Islamic State executions and the Taliban destruction of Buddhist statues were also. Double standards here.
There are terrible atrocities being carried out daily by Muhommadans that are not reported in the mainstream media or hardly any media except http://www.israelnationalnews.com. One has only to look at thereligionofpeace.com site to see what’s happening daily. The media should be focusing on these.
Georg says
He simply confounded them on their Islamophilia and so heads exploded in pretend rage. Next will probably be North Korea, as was Islamic State. There very well could be a generational reckoning of bullshit coming up in short-order.
eduardo odraude says
Their Islamophilia is often fake. Leaders have been intimidated into it because they are in fact Islamophobes, or more precisely, they are terrified of Islam and what it may do to them if they criticize it. Terrorizing infidels is just what Muhammad wanted to do, according to the core texts of Islam, Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, or as Bill Warner refers to them, the Trilogy.
Terry Gain says
The only realistic was of preventing a Muslim conquest is a ban on further immigration. Deporting Muslims will never win public support and is currently illegal.
gravenimage says
At least deport the ones who have not inveigled citizenship.
gravenimage says
I’ve seen all three videos now, too.
Is it really “anti-Muslim” to decry Muslims murdering people who disagree with them. desecrating a church, and beating a crippled boy?
If so, what are they admitting about Muslims?
mortimer says
Concerned about ‘bad taste’? But not concerned about the human rights of the enemies of humanity.
mortimer says
not concerned about the human rights of the VICTIMS of the enemies of humanity
Vyx says
The Muslim takeover of Europe proceed as planned, and by doing this things, Trump is throwing a spanner in the works. Hence the hysteria.
I wonder how the gays of Europe will feel, living under the yoke of Islam? Where are their protests?
“The killing of gays can’t happen here.”
Benedict says
I agree with Farage: Instead of Trump retweeting videoclips about the violence of Muslims, mr. Trump should have retweeted videoclips about “the innocence of Muslims.”
Ed says
The video was taken in my country: Holland. We are supposed to see a fight between two “young people”, both being natives. I saw clearly a third generation “mocro” (North-African backgound) kicking a cripled white boy, but probably that’s because I am a racist.
In Holland only the first and second generation are called muslims, beyond that they are called Dutch resident. That is the reason why we are told there are only 6% muslims in Holland.
The winner of this “equal and fair fight” is sentenced according to the Dutch law. Did anyone tell what the verdict was? Probably 10 hours community service I guess.
Jan Sobieski says
Very similar problem here. The truth is black people, especially young black people, are way over-represented in crime stats, SO…..journalists never identify mob robbery by blacks, as ‘yutes’. Likewise, Holland journalists describe Muslims as ‘a man’ or a ‘resident’. It’s funny and pathetic at the same time.
Jan Sobieski says
err: but as ‘yutes’ left but out
gravenimage says
Thanks, Ed–that’s what I thought. There was outrage because the Muslim bully was bit a immigrant–his being born in Europe does not make this any better. Worse, in some ways.
overman says
“In Holland only the first and second generation are called muslims, beyond that they are called Dutch resident. That is the reason why we are told there are only 6% muslims in Holland”
The deception runs deep.
Ed says
The deception runs deep indeed.
I calculated that (when things continu the way they did the last 10 years) around 2070 Europe will have a muslim-majority. Long before the European Caliphate will be established because left and green are collaborating.
Night and day propaganda prevents the population to wake up. Sleepwalking they go to the end.
I’m glad I’m old …
High Hopes says
As painful and alienating as it is, I am glad I am awake.
Peterson says
I can be at ease knowing that the zenith will reach much sooner and a collision of civilizations will prevent that day from happening. The loss will be massive but it will never happen that Muslims will ever overtake.
simpleton1 says
The people who do not want the ideology of islam to be discussed reminds me of the point that Brigitte Gabriel bought up.
Mr Nigel Farage needs to get with the program.
I ask are the peaceful irrelevant in ‘cahoots’ and benefiting? supporting? or are they bullied.?
They have nothing to lose but their chains, since they are enchained into that ideology.The light needs to be shined on that ideology ! ! !
Thank you President Trump.
Bad Juju says
“There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course not all of them are radicals. The majority of them are peaceful people….” – Brigitte Gabriel
WRONG !
They are not “peaceful people”. The Koran does not exhort ALL MUSLIMS to be “radical” and fight Jihad. It only exhorts those who are able. But those who are not able to fight Jihad are required to SUPPORT those who are able to go and fight. Every Muslim who contributes a dollar to Islamic charities is guilty of enabling Jihad. Every Muslima who raises twelve Shahidis to go and fight Jihad is complicit. Every Muslim who has not renounced Islam, who still gives even tacit support to the demonic supremacist world conquering ideology aids and abets so-called “Radical Islam”.
Jack Diamond says
Every Muslim who pays the required zakat is complicit since a portion is also required to go to mujahideen fighting in the cause of allah. Every Muslim whitewashing Islam from any accountability, from any blame, turning the subject from jihad and “Islamofascist”sharia’h and the real suffering of the real victims here, to a fake narrative of Muslim victimhood-persecution-and the eternal innocence-of-Muslims & Islam & the Qur’an & Muhammad & the “twisting of Islam” by a “tiny minority of extremists” while insisting the motive can only be hate and bigotry for any non-Muslim associating Muslims and the teachings of Islam with jihad and shari’a (imagine!), instead of acknowledging the truth of this association (which is made by every jihadist and supremacist by endlessly quoting the Qur’an and the sunnah of Muhammad). They make resistance to jihad and shari’a criminal in the eyes of other non-Muslims. They are enabling jihad, too. They are also the soldiers of allah.
And this role they play is both doctrinal and historical.
Daniel Triplett says
Agreed. For these reasons there are no “peaceful” Muslims.
Further, Conspiracy to Murder makes every Muslim a Felon, and this ought to be justification enough for criminalizing the “practice and promotion” of Islam.
simpleton1 says
Thankyou BJ, JD, and DT.
You are all quite right.
That ideology that comes from the koran, hadith, and sunnah needs to be discussed, debated in full.
I am very ok with including cartoons, bill boards, mockery, articles, debates, every where there is a muslim.
Then it is up to the muslim if he still wants to follow islam, but back in one of their countries, or locked up .
If necessary their countries may need to be ruthlessly defanged.
After all there is atheism, Judasim, Christianity, Bahai, Hindi, Buddha, flying spaghetti monster, etc. for them to join.
vlparker says
Yup.
vlparker says
Yup.
RodSerling says
“The real question is not whether this or that video is accurate, but whether there is a problem with jihad terror and Islamic supremacism in Britain and elsewhere.” –Robert
That is indeed the bigger question, but it is a sad state of affairs when the most powerful person on the planet does not even have the common sense to have someone first fact-check the content of what he’s going to tweet on such an important issue. This seems so ‘mickey mouse’. He could have a team of experts working on this issue 24/7 and feeding him important information. A key problem in dealing with the situation viz. Islam in Europe is getting verified, credible information that cannot be easily dismissed or covered up by the mainstream media and politicians. This is a problem that has dogged the counter-jihad movement since as long as I’ve been following these issues closely (since circa 2005).
Karen says
Agree. President Trump should understand that he will be held to higher standards than, say, President Obama, for all the obvious political reasons. So, even though faked photo images have been used to promote many narratives around the world, it should be obvious that the media will salivate at the chance to catch President Trump in an error. That, and the natural obligation to do basic fact checking are reasons enough for caution. Other than that, I applaud his courage to bring up the unspeakable: Radical Islam.
MTMLA says
Islam is radical.
And who can prove the photo is fake? Are we to believe the word of a Dutch politician who will lie to his teeth to protect and defend Islam? When they go around threatening people who dare to say the truth about Islam, who want to deny the truth and punish those who repeat what’s in the teachings of that satanic ideology? Those who lie and deceive the people by saying Islam is a religion of peace. Most likely the politician IS lying, to protect the Muslims and their agenda. Maybe Trump should retweet the many photos of jihadis beheading the enemies.Will the dhimmies deny that too and be offended? It’s hard to watch, but that’s what’s coming to the west and people need to see.
gravenimage says
He never said the assailant was not Muslim–just that he was not a migrant.
The implication was that he was just a nice Dutch boy–but this is not actually what is going on. Lots of Muslims are now born in the West to migrant parents. This does not mean they have Western values.
Ren says
Let’s say that a fake video of a muslim bad behavior is a “dramatization” of a fact. It doesn’t by any means say that all muslims behave badly.
As for Farage, is he starting being politically correct?
MTMLA says
I noticed when a white person commits a crime against a minority/ies, the whole white population is blamed as racist, biggot, and have a racist DNA ( as Obama said). However, when a Muslim slaughters a bunch of innocent people, the perpetrator is a lone wolf, doesn’t represent Islam, he’s mentally ill,or he hijacked the religion of peace.Islam is NEVER blamed, but is defended.
gravenimage says
Ren, none of these videos is a dramatization. One is from Egypt, one from Syria, and one from the Netherlands.
Georg says
Nigel Farage is turning out to be an absolute fucking jackass. First, he assumes leftist tactics in libeling Anne Marie Waters as a “Nazi” and now this ridiculous crap. What is it, Nigel? There cannot be United Kingdom Independence with an ever-increasing Islamic threat. Apart from Anne Marie Waters/For Britain, the Swedish Democrats, Alternative for Germany, Geert Wilders/The Party for Freedom, Western Europe is against the ropes. And Nigel, of all people, insists on selling out for whatever short-sighted reason/s.
It’s worth noting Jayda Fransen’s charges stem from approaching and disparaging, in person, a group of Muslim Pakistanis in Britain who, at 555 pizza, took a drunken English girl who came in late asking for help upstairs and gang-raped her. Obviously this doesn’t bother the English establishment in the slightest, in fact it’s a badge of honor, but a few of us stragglers seek justice. Keep pushing and pushing… Nigel Farage is showing himself to be one stupid bastard.
Georg says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYl4mvs69f4
gravenimage says
Thank you for your bravery in exposing these Muslim thugs.
RichardL says
It is disappointing, of course, because Farage seems like a brave guy, but I am also not too happy with Trump retweeting something from Jayda Whatshername. She is too rough for my taste and the blokes she surrounds herself with do have a whiff of Nazi. The source is important.
I do hope that soon Robert will start teaching the feebs again. Trump should retweet stuff by Robert & Co!
Georg says
Neither you nor I are 1/1,000 the person Jayda is. I don’t know how it’s possible you’d observe this site and disparage her. Maybe you’ll “nice” the Muslims out of their ways.
DFD says
Co-Signed !!!
Paul says
@RichardL
The source is NOT important. They are what they are, and let’s be honest,
there’s a hell of a lot worse going on out there that could have been retweeted.
Even if the guys who surround Fransen have something of the “Nazi” about them
(which I don’t believe they do), that’s absolutely NOTHING compared to the
genuine islamofascism engulfing the UK and Europe right now, thanks to the
traitorous scum we have in charge and their left-wing ‘intellectual’ enablers.
Oh for the days when such guys were all we had to worry about.
RichardL says
Paul, I don’t think we disagree so much. The counter-jihad movement is still a fringe movement and thus we need to be very careful in our messaging and in our media. Jayda Fransen may have the same enemy, but her messaging is unacceptable to the mainstream and we need to win the mainstream to win the fight.
Georg, you don’t know me (although I have been on JW a lot longer than any Georg) and you don’t know Jayda Fransen. So don’t make value judgements about either of us. I do not know her but I don’t value er political support because she appeals to people in a way that I don’t like. If, in the end, she convinces working-class Brits, then I value her political work.
Anon says
At least Fransen is honest and speaks her mind. The rest of you Brits are ready to roll over for Islam and ready to betray any fellow Brit who stands up to them when some weak tea type screams “she’s hanging out with Nazis!!!’
That refrain is so common among Lefties when it comes to people who put their country first and those critical of Islam it’s not even funny. It’s a stupid dodge. Because they can’t debate.
Lastly I find it quite sad that you’re more offended by Fransen than some London jihadi using a car to crush people to death or using a butcher knife to cut them up.
Paul says
@RichardL
I’m glad to hear that we’re more or less singing from the same hymn
sheet. It’s true that certain things Jayda Fransen and her organisation
do definitely do not come across well. I just get pissed off with idiots out
there (I don’t mean you) who focus so much on a mere symptom of
a problem, and one which they’ve also contributed to so much.
Paul says
@Anon,
It’s not true of all Brits that we’re just ready to roll over. Please don’t
lump us all in with the the likes of the ‘progressive’ middle-class
‘intellectuals’ who write for the crappy tabloids and our awful ‘celebrities’
who just parrot the same nonsense. It’s easily done but they don’t really
represent us as a whole. Let’s hope Anne Marie Waters’ new party
gains considerable traction. I’m sure circumstances will see to that.
MTMLA says
Read EURABIA by Bar Ye’or to make sense of why these things are happening and why the politicians are complicit. They are sell outs to the oil rich Muslim nations…What will happen to them after the total take over???
gravenimage says
How *dare* she be “rough” opposing Jihad terror? Bad, bad dhimmi!
overman says
LOL
Karen says
Yes, LOL!! Good one, graven!
gravenimage says
🙂
RichardL says
graven, you got me wrong: I don’t mind people getting rough in fighting islam. But if twenty skinheads get rough with islam in the UK, how much will change? Nothing. The mainstream media will have it easy paitning us as “far-right” loonies. We anti-islam activists (I have been arrested by the Egyptian mukhabarat for being an enemy of islam) must win over the silent and still sceptical majority. I would not be swayed by Fransen and Co. I like Robert Spencer’s style and strategy and think he is the most effective force in the world in the fight against (political) islam.
gravenimage says
Richard, I have seen a number of videos by Jayda Fransen, and have seen no indication that she is a “skinhead”, in either the literal or any other sense.
But it is true that I am an American, and may have missed something.
If you have information that she is a violent Neo-Nazi–and not just someone who’s style you don’t favor–*please* post it. I’d want to know.
gravenimage says
whose
LeftisruiningCanada says
I think she only seems ‘rough’ because of her accent (when your used to hearing more polished, upper class ways of talking) and because she seems to care about the situation.
It’s easy for Brits to regard someone as rough and not worth listening to, just by the way someone talks. The media know this, as do the State.
That’s why they’ll likely not deal with the content of her speech. Easier to just keep banging on about how racist Britian First is, and invoke deep seated discomfort about anyone tarred as a ‘skin head’ or having something to do with football hooliganism.
Tell you what, the muslims won’t be thinking she sounds ‘rough’. They know very well how powerful someone like her can be, because they know exactly what the muslim community is up to in the UK. And they’ll do anything to stop someone saying it.
gravenimage says
LeftisruiningCanada, I think there is much the same class disdain of Tommy Robinson. This is just ludicrous.
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
I am very disappointed with Nigel Farage. I don’t know of any very public figure in UK that is standing up against radical Islam. If they did, they would probably be arrested!
Georg says
Anne Marie Waters, who just missed winning the election for UKIP (probably due to collusion) is now heading the For Britain party. She’s formidable in debate, and an experienced politician with a growing base who is the only politician standing against the Islamification of Britain.
Her personal Twitter page:
https://twitter.com/AMDWaters?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The party she heads, the Twitter page of For Britain:
https://twitter.com/ForBritainParty
gravenimage says
Thanks for that.
overman says
@georg
“She’s formidable in debate, and an experienced politician with a growing base who is the only politician standing against the Islamification of Britain”
No she’s not the only one. Paul Weston of the Liberty GB party has been extremely outspoken in his criticism of lslam for many years. This is the man who got arrested for quoting Churchill’s views on lslam. He says in the vid that his Party has tried for 4 years to expose the lslamic threat, but couldn’t make any headway. He praises Anne Marie and says he’ll be joining her new party. He’s a brilliant speaker, although a lone voice shouting in the wilderness. He also says it was a terrible disappointment that Annie Marie didn’t become leader of UKIP and that Farage doesn’t have a clue about lslam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dti6BjZJtrI
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Because Conservatives are driven by common sense they easily merge political movements that have common goals. (Something you rarely see from the Left.) Paul Weston, a true gentleman, is very wise in sparing the two parties of any wasted energy by moving to merge Liberty GB into the other party. I wish them both and the new party the very best of luck in this difficult struggle.
gravenimage says
Fine video from Paul Weston.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Britain First could be shaping up to be something….
Hope everyone involved has their ducks in a row, because the State is probably gonna use anything it can to discredit and/or lock them away.
Frankz says
Farage is a consummate politician and with Brexit accomplished Trump had the bad taste to show where politicians are taking us like some kind of amateur. There are still certain illusions of continuity and community the British treasure about themselves.
Georg says
Farage was/is a single-issue figure who was/is for Britain leaving the EU. That is a worthy goal, but the EU and Russia are smaller threats than Islam is to the UK and he won’t react to the threat in a substantial way. Thus, Anne Marie Waters and her For Britain party split from UKIP and are taking the issue of Islamization, as well as other issues, on directly. Nigel Farage, God love him for Brexit, *is*, as you say, a consummate politician — and that is the problem when it comes to Islam.
overman says
Yes, Farage’s mission was Brexit, but like many politicians in the past, he’s now redundant. Even Churchill was useless outside a war scenario. A new player is needed to combat the lslamic threat, now stealthily breeding it’s way into the British population.
Xavi says
The emperor has no clothes and Trump re-tweeting a reality that many Brits admit is happening says something about him and his presidency. Donald Trump is downright courageous and brave and people follow bravery and courage.
Parker says
The geeks are more upset at Trump then the TMB savagery in the videos.
Tom says
Nigel Farage has been a hero in leading the fight for Brexit over a period of many years and was a strong supporter of Trump during the last election. One has to wonder, why now, does he turn on Trump in such a way.
He has recently said that he will be back full time in politics. Is it possible that he will run as an MP and perhaps has his sights set on becoming a minister or perhaps even the Prime Minister of the UK?
Perhaps private polling has shown him to be more popular than most politicians in the UK at this time.
Perhaps his reaction is part of a more elaborate plan to deal with the Islamic problem after he is in a better position to do so and his candid rebuke of Trumps tweets are merely a smokescreen.
I for one find Trumps constant tweeting a distraction, albeit entertaining watching him cast and reel in the MSM and his enemies, and not what I would expect from the President of the USA.
Even so I think Trump is by far a better President than Obama was and Clinton would have been, and I am prepared to give both he and Nigel the benefit of the doubt on this one.
rbla says
Farage who seemed to be improving lately has suffered a relapse. Paul Weston of Liberty GB has joined forces with Anne Marie Waters. She is Britain’s best hope for survival.
DFD says
Paul Weston of Liberty GB has joined forces with Anne Marie Water…
At least some good news here in the UK, mustn’t give up hope – even against all odds.
Sharyati says
Oh god what happened to this guy? He campaigned for Trump and now opposes him? Well the UK has some rampant brain disorder i guess. May be next on the list to be “Green pilled “would be Katie Hopkins?All bets are off anything is possible looks like!!!
Michael McDermott says
On this occasion Farage was wrong, as was May, but LBC, the radio station, might have had something to do with his wrongness!
Krazy Kafir says
Nigel is selling out to the mainstream. I’m surprised, in Toronto a few years ago, I saw him and Mark Steyn take on a bunch of lefties in a debate about Islam. He seemed very solid. So sad.
John W says
I prefer Katie Hopkins. Check her out on Twitter. She re-tweeted Trump’s tweet.
David Stephenson says
Farage was essential for Brexit, but is an ignorant wuss when it comes to islam. Thank goodness for Anne Marie Waters and Britain First – the only hope Britain has for a future.
Terry Gain says
I saw Farage in the debate which Krazy Kafir refers to. Farage is not ignorant about Islam. There is another explanation.
Voytek Gagalka says
“The 300-watt smile he (Farage) was beaming…” suffered sudden short circuit. The most probable reason was that his power supply is geared directly to some Saudi or Qatari “prince” which would electrocute him at no time if he would react differently. Some people are cowards, but most are simply corrupted by money.
GUEST says
Funny isn’t it how uncomfortable this makes so many, yet it needs to be “out there”, it needs to be said and for that I’m glad it was Trump because no amount of websites such as this one is making the pro-Islam agenda sit up and take notice. They repress these atrocities.
gravenimage says
Nigel Farage slams Trump for retweeting videos depicting Muslims being violent
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Well, *this* is depressing.
So now it is “bad taste” to say anything negative about Muslims attacking Britons? Another Anti-Jihadist in retreat.
Last night on (non-Fox) cable news, I heard something equally bizarre–that Tweeting such videos was “anti-British”, as though being brutalized by Muslims is now a British value.
Anon says
Trump was brilliant with this retweet of Fransen’s videos. It smoked out the real opinions of the Brit political class. he now knows the U.S. has no friends in England. Just a bunch of sell outs.
May showed herself to be a abject coward.
endislam says
Farage in the past has been targeted. This proves that violence works. He’s afraid for him and his family. Am not giving him a pass here I don’t know what am giving him. It’s sad but the EU states have constantly protected the truth about moslems getting out and now they’re just reeling. Trump made his point and a good one at that. Let them reel.
BARBARA BROOKS says
Trump should have taken the time to find recent videos from reliable sources. One of the videos was fake, and the other two were old. Using the account of someone from Britain First with its offensive tactics was not wise.
I’m sure Nigel Farage would have backed up Trump if he had used authenticated videos not associated with a right-wing extremist.
gfmucci says
Nigel is called a “right wing extremist” by most in Britain.
MTMLA says
Read EURABIA by Bar Ye’or to make sense of why these things are happening and why the politicians are complicit. They are sell outs to the oil rich Muslim nations…What will happen to them after the total take over???
gfmucci says
The irony is legion. First, Trump disses Pamela for provoking Muslims with her art contest. Then Trump and Nigel get together supporting each other as great buds. Now Nigel comes out and criticizes Trump for the same “exercising poor judgement”, the thing he criticized Pamela for doing. Fascinating.
Wellington says
Farage stands as testimony to that old maxim that virtually no one should be trusted. As LBJ said, “I trust no one but Lady Bird and sometimes I wonder about her.”
JFK was fortunate in having in RFK someone he could absolutely trust. Hell, Robert Kennedy would have taken a bullet for his brother, but such loyalty is very rare.
We live in a world where complete loyalty is one of the most priceless possessions of life, right up there with good health and enough money to tell others where to stick it. If you have such loyalty from a person or two, then count your blessings most assuredly because you have one of the greatest possessions it is possible to have. Such is the way of life. And Farage here only proves this axiomatic aspect of existence.
PJG says
Maybe Farage is concerned that Waters’ loyalties lie more with her radical Zionist, Marxist, LGBT preoccupations rather than with Britain and its future. But if so, he could not actually say that, could he?
gravenimage says
“Radical Zionist”? PJG, surely you are not opposed to the survival of our civilized ally Israel?
PJG says
There are Zionists and Zionists. The survival of Israel? No objection at all. But some Zionists want much more than just Israel’s survival. By the way, I meant she is radical generally; I should have put the word “radical” before her name.
Frankly, I prefer to support politicians whose loyalties are with the country they reside in and its culture and traditions. She is no fan of Christianity, the traditional religion of Britain, and her Leftist inclinations are hardly inspiring. For a politician to be opposed to Islam is not enough to impress me. I want nothing of Marxism and I am fed up with LGBT posturing and aggression.
gravenimage says
I am certainly no fan of Marxism, nor of “Neo-Marxism.
I am still not clear what aspect of Zionism you take issue with, though. I have read some criticism of her, and this just seems to be about her supporting Israel not persecuting gay people.
PJG says
She herself is gay, isn’t she? She is an LGBT activist – that activism is part of the Marxist agenda, as we know. I am not happy with the excessive emphasis the counter-jihad movement has on Israel; not just an emphasis but almost a glorification of all things Jewish/Israeli/Zionist. Just as I object to pandering to Islam, I have no interest in supporting territorial and other ambitions of some Zionists (notice I say “some”), especially those living in the Western world who insist on open borders for the West while having markedly different views about Israel. But it looks like Christians living in their own countries now have to choose who they want to be their masters, Muslims with their Sharia Law or Jews with their Marxist hatred of Western civilisation and indeed their own religious laws. What hope do people like Farage have in Britain? He is only English.
PJG says
Of course not all Jews are Marxists who hate the West; indeed probably only a small minority are. But those few are influential enough to cause trouble for ordinary Jews and the rest of us, just as jihadists cause trouble for ordinary Muslims and the rest of us..
gravenimage says
PJG wrote:
But it looks like Christians living in their own countries now have to choose who they want to be their masters, Muslims with their Sharia Law or Jews with their Marxist hatred of Western civilisation and indeed their own religious laws.
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PJG, I have always liked you–but I’m afraid this is just batsh*t crazy.
You seem to *hate* Jews, and believe that they plan on conquering Gentiles, and consider civilized Israel no different from the horror of Dar-al-Islam.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
He’s not on our side:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/ukip-rejects-anti-sharia-leadership-candidate-new-leader-wants-to-move-away-from-the-focus-on-islam
MFritz says
And never has been. UKIP and Farage are a one trick pony. They were only allowed to exist because the establishment thought that with a “critical party” they could ridicule and criminalise the criticism and get the voters back – or at least frustrate them not to vote at all.
The same must be said about the German AfD btw. While many Germans considered criticism against too many migrants coming here and “misbehaving” to be an issue, they would NEVER have voted for an – obvious – party on the extreme right. Only rabid Merkel’s continued insistance on more migration and the systematic, but very obvious attempts by the media to hush up the crimes of the “special workers” changed the game to some extent. (But the AfD remains untrustworthy.)
Joe says
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Looks like Farage is more like an establishment politician than a revolutionary figure with passion for the truth.
Jack Holan says
Mr Nigel Farage and PM Theresa May perhaps believe any right thinking Brit believe as they do The end for them justifies the means. If the can only bring over enough diverse looking Muslims, not tread too heavily on their cultures and religious practices they will have completed 1/2 of their goals through the 1st & greatest experiment ever: transfer of whole populations, total shift in Reigious Majority & Dominance and a redistribution if State Wealth and possibly Private Wealth
All this hangs in the balance. They must shut down Free Speech informing the Public the truth about the barbaric practices of the newcomers, that they don’t appreciate the Freedoms of the Host Countries, The Stipends provided to get a start. The feel as Muslims they deserve it from the infidel. So the EU with Primary pushing by Socialist/Communist British, German, and French leaders have conspired to filter the Internet through Google,Facebook,YOUTUBE, Media Outlets, Criminal Charges tat police will allow to be charged against Muslims
The joke is the term migrant since originally it was difficult to maintain that storyline. These People are Not family unit escaping a war zone in Syria. Most are healthy men of military age the demographics are any Muslim Country in Africa,theMideast, or SW Asia. They’re non-vetted without papers and 10s of thousands disappear once they arrive in Europe. If Christians happen to be discovered amongst the Muslims they run a hi risk of tortureand death with impunity.
It should be noted in 2014, an ISIS promised a “Hijrah” to Europe The ISIS Terrorist after beheading 25 Christians for being Christians. The spokesman said IsIs will flood Europe with refugees and how they will be indistinquibe from the refugees. And there goal as Mohamed (May peace be upon him)
Taking Medina from the Jews, is to burn Rome and the Crusaders. The German head Of Counter Intelligence, estimates there 8-10K terrorists in Germany prepared to terrorize them. This is thhn
So, rather than use what ever number of set of eyes and ears to help locate Possible terrorists. This concept might be to simple for Someone trying to build a Grand Society with East German E Stasi
he, Nigel Farage
Let’s not forget Merkel remark about the Cologne rape victims inferring they caused the rape to occur Neanderthal ! PM May shame! Blaming my President because savages act up it gets caught on tape and rebroadcast to share with the Civilzed citizenry so they’ve been alerted to a danger you are white washing and that kill INNOCENT PEOPLE ONE DAY.
vlparker says
I’ve lost all respect for Nigel Farage. It was bad enough that he won’t tell the truth about islam and how it is destroying Europe, but when he called Anne Marie Waters a Nazi, he showed what an utter craven coward that he is. She has the courage that he doesn’t have and so he had to lash out at her.
I’m glad to see Paul Weston joining Britain First and I hope the party can grow its membership and sweep out the trash that is now running Britain.
MTMLA says
To call a person who opposes Islam and its violence as Nazi, is the utmost of stupidity. The Nazis were in cohoots with Islam against the Jews. The Nazis and Islam were partners not enemies . The ignoramuses need to learn history.I guess calling somebody a Nazi sounds good, even if it’s totally stupid and inaccurate.
MFritz says
Farage and UKIP were obviously built up as a wannabe opposition. A paper tiger.
But reality overtook them and now Farage has to put in the breakes too, because his financiers don’t want more criticism on their “holy” masses of – cheap labour force – migrants.
Matthieu Baudin says
The main push for BREXIT seems to have been to enhance Britains national sovereignty with a primary view to regaining control of immigration. The most pressing issue related to immigration is Jihadist Terrorism, something most of Britain’s working classes fully appreciate but a formidable blind spot for the upper and middle classes. Mr Farage put in a considerable effort in his political career building the case for British sovereignty but the latter end of his time on the stage seems to match the rapid decent into poor judgement and woolly thinking that has afflicted his European nemesis Frau Merkel.
Allan Mandrowski says
Farage probably succumbed under the pressure of death threats.
John Forbes says
THE BRITISH ARE THE MASTERS OF THE PLUCKY DEFEAT BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY REFUSE TO FIGHT!
THEY REFUSE TO EVEN CONFRONT ISLAM IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!
THEIR COWARDICE IS APPAULING & THEIR SHIELDING OF THEIR MUSLIM CHILD RAPISTS SIMPLY INDESCRIBABLE!
TRUE TO FORM THOUGH AFTER THE POLICE REFUSED TO EVEN INVESTIGATE CHILD RAPE FOR OVER TWO DECADES & ARE STILL IN HIDING WITH COUNCILS & DIVERSITY POLICE COMPLICIT I AM TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT – TREU TO FORM – THE BRITISH CAN FIND A NEW LOW!!
Joy D. Brower says
Very disappointed with Farage. Actually, not living in the UK or knowing more about Farage that we’ve seen and read in the USA media, I’m still surprised with his (unnecessary!) remarks. And, like others have commented, I instantly thought of Tommy Robinson and what he has had to say, do and suppress just to keep his family safe and himself alive! This state of affairs in the the UK reminds me of the bad old days of Stalin and the USSR!!
Just too bad about the loss of another disappointing politician trying to save his career and, no doubt, his own skin as well!!
patriotliz says
I guess there’s no valid video proof of Muslim migrant madness (or the descendants of Muslim migrants) to be found. All the videos about hate/atrocities by Muslims are fake videos manufactured by Xenophobic, Islamophobic racists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U5zL6I8H8E
And…this is the speech for which Frayda was arrested under UK IslamoFascist sharia law against blasphemy of Islam (if it hasn’t been taken down by youtube for “hate speech”):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRnYSodIrI
MTMLA says
Videos of Muslim violence against the kaffirs, are taken down or discredited as fake and the criminals are not punished. On the other hand, videos of reaction against and exposure of muslim violence against kaffirs are kept as proof of islamophobia and the person voicing his/her concerns is punished by the dhimmy authority, defender of Islam. With a lot of supporters, as we see in the case with Trump and Jayda Fransen.
MTMLA says
This lady is a very corageous person who truly loves her country and freedom, which are threatened by islam and the dhimmy politicians. She is totally telling the truth.
Malcolm Jackson says
I have a FB page, UKIP Research Group, and Ex-Members of UKIP https://www.facebook.com/groups/514881018867173/ . It is an open group so you are welcome to take a look. We are trying to piece together why Nigel Farage and his pal Steve Crowther wrecked UKIP by turning UKIP in to a political party supporting Islam. I am ex UKIP, booted out in Jan 2015 for criticising Islam, and like so many others want to know how Farage and Crowther got together. Iwas in UKIP for 20 years and was cheesed off with being conned by Nigel Farage. Now that I see Donald Trump was also duped I do not feel so bad.