Watch Pat Condell’s latest video here.
YouTube has taken down the original audio with over half a million views, but you can still listen to me and a UK-based imam discuss the Qur’an here.
Is Condell right about me when he said in an earlier video that “Robert Spencer is an Islamic scholar. He knows the Qur’an better than most imams”? Or is it all just “Islamophobia”?
Find out for yourself: preorder my new book Confessions of an Islamophobe here.
Linda says
Pat Condell is right.
TL says
Perhaps, but the video is a tiring rant which I couldn’t bear to watch for up to eleven minutes and nineteen seconds just to hear a brief remark which had already been transcribed for us. Notice, however, that many of the links have eye opening titles. For example, one reads claims that “Half a million migrants [are] on welfare in Germany.”. Doesn’t that number seem a little low given the flood of colonists into Germany during the past few years?
gravenimage says
I consider Pat Condell to be an impassioned speaker, not someone given to “tiring rants”.
You are correct, however, that his estimate for migrants on welfare in Germany is low: last year, it was almost twice that, at around 975,000–it is probably even worse now, up to well over a million–this, in a country where the entire population is just 82 million.
“The number of migrants claiming welfare benefits in Germany exploded last year”
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-number-of-migrants-claiming-benefits-in-germany-surges-by-169-percent-2016-9
And, of course, the costs in additional policing, security, courts, and prisons are higher yet–and the human costs even more so.
Personally. I am glad to have Anti-Jihadists like Pat Condell speaking out against this, even if you are not.
Arthur of The Britons says
A “tiring rant”? You are on the wrong website if you think that. Everyone of Pat Condell’s videos are articulate and amusing, and he takes down Islam and the left like no one else.
Jim says
TL, Mr Condell has that enjoyable wry, dry English humor, which you apparently can’t see. Your loss, our gain.
carol says
Pat Condell drills home the “grim” truths with pointed Irish humour. He was a comedian after all. With unique talent he highlights the obvious absurdities in an effort to help idiots remove the blinders.
Linda says
Pat Condell gets the point across in no uncertain terms and doesn’t mince his words. I find it a real treat to watch his videos.
Ted Tyler says
Pat Condell tells it like it is – and gives a lot of information in very few words. I see no “dry Irish Humor” here. Only grim reality.
Scott says
+100
Manuele says
Of course he is right. Robert Spencer is well educated on the Koran then most imams and clerics
eduardo odraude says
Robert Spencer knows the Qur’an better than most Islamic scholars, that is true, but Pat is mistaken in calling Robert an “Islamic” scholar. Robert is a scholar of Islam, not an “Islamic” scholar.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer is formally a POPULARIZER of Islamology or of ‘Arabist’ scholarship. He does not do the primary research himself, but he has read most of it, understands it, and has helped the academic researchers to be better known among the general public.
No one else is able to bridge the gap between the ivory tower scholars and the public as well as Robert Spencer, author of 17 books about Islam.
old white guy says
not much research is necessary when it comes to islam. the insanity is there for all to see, or ignore. not much scholarship is necessary to understand the evil that is islam.
mortimer says
OWG, the pure RESEARCH is the absolute data that we use. The pure RESEARCH is the foundation upon which we build the edifice of our arguments against Islamic amorality and supremacism.
Pure RESEARCH demolishes Islam. Without the pure RESEARCH, we have no argument against Islam.
The fruits of pure RESEARCH are in themselves UNANSWERABLE ARGUMENTS against Islam. Muslims are realizing in large numbers that Islam cannot be supported by the facts because RESEARCHERS have dug through the manure pile of Islam and found the criminal intent and murder weapons of the caliphs and their evil minions.
God bless the pure RESEARCHERS. We live in the real world, thanks to their RESEARCH. The research about Islam sets Muslims free from over 1,000 absurdities.
Custos Custodum says
Above all, Robert Spencer is not trying for a popularity award at the next conference of North American Islam scholars.
Remember that actual Islam scholars need visas to visit Islamic parts of the world, just as scholars studying China or Russia would need to visit the countries they study to talk to people, observe things, gather materials, etc.
Any scholar who is too outspoken about the less presentable aspects of Islam – i.e. the 95% of the iceberg that stays submerged – will quickly find himself blackballed. Self-censorship and open propagandizing for political Islam is the understandable but despicable response of many in the field.
The situation is similar to the Marxist shibboleths about “Climate Change” which for years have become a ritual part of any scientific paper by ambitious academic, however tenuously related to any issues of “Climate Change.” (The politics of “Climate Change” is entirely unconnected to whether, how and to what degree human activity affects climate phenomena.)
The one constant to watch out for is the triumphalist imposition of totalitarian Marxism by an international cabal of Marxist activists who have strategically allied themselves with their ostensible enemies, the globalist capitalists. The imposition by hook and by crook of Muslim Male Mass Migration (Project 4M) throughout the West including the U.S. is a part of this well-financed, subterranean globalist agenda.
Buraq says
This is the only PC I approve of; Pat Condell, that is. The other one, politically correct, is for clowns!
gravenimage says
🙂
: says
Pat Condell for Prime Minister.
Ren says
Both Pat Condell and Robert Spencer are right on many issues on islam.
apexpoint says
So is Geert Wilders – Europe’s Suicide in the Face of Islam > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI0mUGj4vco&t=606s
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
Ben Maldonado and the dorm staff at Stanford should watch this Pat Condell video but what are the chances of that?
The madness which is the refusal to learn just how rotten and barbarous the Islamic religion is continues.
Westman says
Madness for certain.
Has anyone suggested to Breitbart that a section named, “Big Education”, or, “Big Universities”, is missing from its website?
MFritz says
The censorship by YouTube speaks volumes.
Infidel says
Pat Condell is another man with balls of steel… RESPECTS..
dsinc says
Yes, lots of it.
Ray Sears says
AMEN !
Shmoovie says
“…a price worth paying– as long as someone else pays it.”
Condell is a treasure! He shreds leftists with such accuracy while mixing perfect touches of brutal humour into his ‘observations’.
Brings to mind another British Bulldog..
herb planter says
Robert is the bees’ knees. god bless him praise Jesus!
Kenny says
Quel suprise! YouTube have taken it down. Can it be seen in liveleak?
apexpoint says
Geert Wilders – Europe’s Suicide in the Face of Islam……………. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI0mUGj4vco&t=606s :
Tom says
Pat is one of those that is hated by the left and politicians of the left persuasion who have wilfully ignored the problems that result from allowing millions of migrants into their countries.
Pat will be shown to be correct in the near future if Europeans don’t get their collective heads out of the sand and do something about the destructive and suicidal path that Europe is now on.
Yes he tends to rant but much of what he says is based on historical experience and facts and can only be denied by those who either aren’t capable of clear and logical thought, or who are so idealogically blinded that they are incapable of using common sense.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Pat condell is a liar of the century. Mr Spencer is not learned on Islam. can Mr Spencer even read the Quranic text in its original Arabic version, what more of following the scholarly arguments written in Arabic.Ask him can he do? Note:The Quran is written in the best form of styles that requires deep knowledge of Arabic, both language and literature. subject areas in Arabic like Nahw (grammar), Balagha (Rhetorics), Adab (literature) and Naqd(literary criticism), logic and Iltifat (grammatical shift) must be mastered very well .Did Mr Spencer study any of these basic requirements for him to follow the scholarly debate? Ask him if he did.
Wellington says
Your argument, Ibrahim, if you can dignify it with that term, is beyond old. It is decrepit and a lie. It has “pathetic” written all over it. Might as well argue that one can’t judge Mein Kampf unless they read it in the original German. Or that reading the Old Testament in anything but Hebrew or the New Testament in anything but Greek can’t lead to correct conclusions about said texts. Ditto for a great English writer like Shakespeare who comes across in many languages, for instance Russian and German, wonderfully so. Frankly, your “argument” only demonstrates how desperate people like you are to whitewash the worst religion ever created by man, i.e., Islam.
I have read the entire Koran in English translation, all 114 tedious, highly repetitive, disturbing, desultory and stupid suras, and there is no way in hell that enough of the awful rot in translation in said text didn’t make perfectly clear to me that Islam is barbarism disguised as something noble and sapient. Really, the “translation excuse” only satisfies those who are ignorant or worse. Give up this particular ghost. After all, what kissy-face/huggy-bear meaning in the original classical Arabic could possibly be made for such Suras as 2:191, 4:34, 8:12, 8:39, 9:5, 33:59, 47:4, 60:4 and 98:6?
Islam is evil, Ibrahim, and it doesn’t take knowing classical Arabic to come to this conclusion. So, stuff your “translation argument” where the sun never shines. Your religion is a mortal enemy of freedom, founded by a brutal (albeit clever) psychopath and is a burden to all mankind as no other religion remotely is. Yes, enough of the damn “translation excuse.” And take note too that defenders of Islam, both Muslims and clueless dhimmis, keep having to come up with a myriad of “reasons” why Islam is really OK even though just since 9/11 there have been over 32,000 DOCUMENTED Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide. What other religion even remotely has such a record? The answer is NONE. Islam is alone among all religions of the world in being a mistake that is a plague for all the earth. You won’t get this but the good news here is that every year more and more people, including even many Muslims, are coming to this realization.
Have a nice day, Ibrahim, and better luck next time trying to exonerate Mo’s creed. Yes, keep giving it a shot because the more you do the more you unwittingly reveal just how pathetic, malevolent and barbarous the Islamic faith is.
gravenimage says
Fine rejoinder as always, Wellington.
You wrote:
I have read the entire Koran in English translation, all 114 tedious, highly repetitive, disturbing, desultory and stupid suras, and there is no way in hell that enough of the awful rot in translation in said text didn’t make perfectly clear to me that Islam is barbarism disguised as something noble and sapient. Really, the “translation excuse” only satisfies those who are ignorant or worse.
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As have I. Moreover, I have read the Qur’an in multiple translations–N. J. Dawood, Pickthall, and Yusuf Ali. I have also read parts of the Qur’an–individual Suras–by many other translators.
As you likely are familiar with, there are also sites that offer side-by-side translations of Ayats by multiple translators. Here is one such site, with *40* different translations:
https://themuslimtimes.info/2012/02/04/forty-different-simultaneous-translations-of-the-holy-quran-in-english/
What is notable at just a glance is how very similar all of these translations are. There are slight variations in word choice and emphasis, but that is all.
Are Muslims like Ibrahim itace muhammed claiming that all of these translations–including those by pious Muslims, who intended their translations of the Qur’an to serve primarily as Da’wa–are wrong, and wrong in exactly the same ways?
Even were this true–which it clearly, logically is not–then Islamic ‘scholars’ like Ibrahim itace muhammed here would be able to point out in exactly what way these translations are wrong, and correct them.
But he can’t–because this is not a real issue.
Under the Pact of Umar–that ur-document of dhimmitude–Infidels are barred from “teaching the Qur’an to their children”, on pain of violence. This is because Muslims don’t want the Kuffar to read the Qur’an *critically*.
That is what this is about–Muslims like Ibrahim itace muhammed don’t want Robert Spencer and others to read the Qur’an, and they don’t want them to be able to teach other Infidels what savagery it preaches.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ignorant satan(holy spirit) worshiper Gravenimage, Wellington wrote rubbish rejoinder arising from ignorance. He said the Quranic is in classical, not modern Arabic. He is clueless about the subject. The Arabic in which the Quran was written is the same standard Arabic spoken and written in the Arab world today. And moreso the subject areas in Arabic I said required to be mastered are the same subject areas currently been taught in Arab schools today.
Custos Custodum says
Thank you, IIM, for sharing this valuable insight.
To help us understand the practical implications, could you provide a brief, point by point summary of how and where Pickthall’s translation of Sura 9 is erroneous, and provide corrected versions of any incorrect passages? Pickthall, of course, was a devout Muslim who spent many years studying the Qur’an itself and the views of other scholars about the meaning of each passage.
GI’s post above contains links to different translations. Since the original writing commissioned by Muhammad (who himself was illiterate) is in the “standard Arabic spoken and written in the Arab world today,” it should not be hard for you to enlighten us, point-by-point, and to put an end to all those noxious misunderstandings.
Thank you in advance.
gravenimage says
The witless Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Ignorant satan(holy spirit) worshiper Gravenimage, Wellington wrote rubbish rejoinder arising from ignorance. He said the Quranic is in classical, not modern Arabic. He is clueless about the subject. The Arabic in which the Quran was written is the same standard Arabic spoken and written in the Arab world today.
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Good God, what woeful ignorance. Here’s what a major language school has to say:
“Classical Arabic is also referred to as Quranic Arabic as it is the written language of the Quran, the main spiritual text of Islam. While there are many ancient forms of Arabic, Classical Arabic is the only surviving language of a group of Arabic dialects known as Old North Arabian. Classical Arabic is no longer a spoken language and is primarily used for religious purposes. If one desires to read the Quaran in its original language, then a thorough study of Classical Arabic would be needed.
Modern Standard Arabic is the opposite end of the spectrum. As ancient as Classical Arabic presents itself, Modern Standard Arabic is the primary form of the Arabic language that is spoken and studied today. When someone is learning “Arabic”, unless they differentiate, they are learning Modern Standard Arabic.”
https://www.livelingua.com/blog/the-differences-between-classical-arabic-and-modern-standard-arabic/
In other words, anyone who reads the Qur’an in modern Arabic is reading it in translation, as much as is someone reading it in English or French.
More:
And moreso the subject areas in Arabic I said required to be mastered are the same subject areas currently been taught in Arab schools today.
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Most of what is being taught in schools today–including those all over the Muslim world–is modern standard Arabic, not Classical Arabic.
I suppose that Ibrahim itace muhammed doesn’t think that Arabic has changed at all in 1400 years–hardly surprising, given that he believes that petty thieves should have their limbs amputated and women should be stoned to death, just as was done during the Arabian Dark Ages.
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Pat condell is a liar of the century. Mr Spencer is not learned on Islam.
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Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed, in all the time he has been here, has not been able to point to a single thing that Robert Spencer has gotten wrong? Very telling.
More:
can Mr Spencer even read the Quranic text in its original Arabic version, what more of following the scholarly arguments written in Arabic.Ask him can he do? Note:The Quran is written in the best form of styles that requires deep knowledge of Arabic, both language and literature. subject areas in Arabic like Nahw (grammar), Balagha (Rhetorics), Adab (literature) and Naqd(literary criticism), logic and Iltifat (grammatical shift) must be mastered very well .Did Mr Spencer study any of these basic requirements for him to follow the scholarly debate? Ask him if he did.
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The usual claptrap about it being impossible to translate Classical Arabic into any language. Of course, this is absurd.
And what is the likelihood that the illiterate Ibrahim itace muhammed himself reads Classical Arabic? Slim to none. Yet he claims that Spencer is wrong about Islam.
Notice that he does not address a single point Robert Spencer made in the video, above–because he is unable to do so.
Note the Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has confirmed much of the barbarism of Islam, including taking sex slaves and slaughtering unbelievers in Jihad.
This is the usual–just an attempt to shut down any of the “filthy Infidels” from being able to speak out critically about the savagery of Islam.
Wellington says
Seconded, gravenimage.
Instructive how many times Spencer is torn down but never with any factual back-up, like Ben Maldonado at Stanford the other day or by the forever mendacious dimwit, Ibrahim.
gravenimage says
All true, Wellington.
carol says
Wellington and Graven Image have stripped Emperor Ibrahim Itace of his clothes (Wellington has surpassed even GI this time in shredding up the clown outfit),..now I can hardly get back to watching Pat Condell over again! Thanks.
gravenimage says
🙂
Greyhound Fancier says
So, do the mohammedans train their converts in classical Arabic, so they can read the wholly Koran properly?
What version do the prison chaplains use to recruit convicts to mohammedanism? Do the convicts have to learn classical Arabic?
Or do they say the shahada, get inducted, and only know what the imam says?
Ted Tyler says
For religious leaders to maintain their power, they must maintain that they – and they alone – are the knowledge source between the people and God. Thus, the correct interpretation of the religious texts can only be done by the priests. In Islam, the priests (Imams) will say that you cannot correctly interpret the Koran unless you read it in the original Arabic.
In the 16th century, the Catholic Church was opposed to translations of the Bible. William Tyndale was strangled and then burned (10/6/1536) for translating the Bible into English. Perhaps Islam is just a few centuries behind Christianity.
gravenimage says
Perhaps Islam is just a few centuries behind Christianity.
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I’ve heard this argument before–but I’m afraid it does not hold water.
Not every faith operates on some sort of timeline, from savage to civilized–were this true, then Unitarians, Scientologists, and New Agers would be stoning women to death in the streets.
And while Christians have, sadly, acted violently, there is nothing in the texts and tenets of the faith, nor in the model of Jesus, that teachers such persecution.
Would that one could say that of Islam.
Mo says
@ Ibrahim itace muhammed
“Pat condell is a liar of the century.”
No, that would be you.
“Mr Spencer is not learned on Islam.”
Name the claims about Islam in one his books that is factually false, and upon what basis you say that?
(You know you won’t provide the evidence I asked for. You never do!)
John Hawk says
Nice hearing from you, Ibrahim. Damn shame about Raqqa, though. How did you get out in one piece?
Jim says
Hawk, LOL.
duh swami says
Ibrahim…you didn’t say just how the English translation is faulty…
If the English translations are incomplete and full of errors, who is it that prints them up and distributes them, and why does Allah allow it?
gravenimage says
That’s the important question, Swami–but Taqiyya-spewing Mohammedans like Ibrahim itace muhammed will never answer it.
Nelly Math says
Dear all, let me say that you are wasting you precious times to even answer to this Guy Ibrahim I M. He is the most Stupid religious ignorant I’ve ever heard.
FIRST OF ALL, their prophet Mo was very clueless and ignorant about the Holy Spirit. Here is JUST ONE of the many FACTS:
Mo spokes about 70 virgins waiting for those who kill the infidels for JIHAD purposes.
Remember, Mo’s lifestyle demonstrates that he was a sexual predator. And because of his spiritual IGNORANCE he forgot that God is a GREAT SPIRIT OF CREATION therefore, HE (GOD) SPEAKS THINGS INTO BEING.
Mo forgot that IN HEAVEN AND PARADISE, GOD CREATED SPRITUAL BEINGS TO WORSHIP HIM. BUT ON EARTH, HE CREATED HUMAN BEINGS TO DO THE SAME.
NOW TO POPULATE THE EARTH, GOD GAVE TO HUMANS SEX AS A TOOL FOR PROCREATION.
IN HEAVEN GOD CREATES, ON EARTH HUMAN PRO-CREATES. MO was so ignorant to understand this. That is why this Guy Ibrahim I M, also do not understand this.
IN HEAVEN OR PARADISE THERE IS NO SEX, because it is a SPIRUAL ENVIRONMENT there is no male or female. The idea of them HAVING SEX IN HEAVEN OR in PARADISE WITH 70 VIRGINS IS THE HIGHEST SING OF SPIRITUAL IGNORANCE.
WHEN ANYONE DIES THE BODY AND ITS FUNCTIONS DIES TOO. THE AFTER LIFE IS A SPIRITUAL ONE WHERE THERE IS NO SEX. SO WAKE UP you Stupid religious ignorant I’ve ever heard.
NOW BECAUSE GOD IS SPIRIT whoever needs to connect with Him will do it in SPIRIT. THAT IS WHY HE ALLOCATED THE HOLY SPIRIT TO FACILITATE THAT CONNECTION. NOT ANY RELIGION, NOT their prophet Mohammed or Buddha or any other Men. JESUS HAS TO LEAVE SO THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN CONTINUE THAT CONNECTION.
GOD IS A GREATER SPIRIT IN THE SPIRTUAL REALM; NOTHING THAN THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL CONNECTS US TO THAT SPIRITUAL REALM.
U CAN TAKE A DONKEY TO THE RIVER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK THE WATER. BUT I BELIEVE IBRAHIM CUP IS ALREADY FULL WITH LIES OF ISLAM THAT IS WHY HE CAN STILL BE RESPONDING WELLINGTON AND YOU.
gravenimage says
Nelly Math wrote:
Dear all, let me say that you are wasting you precious times to even answer to this Guy Ibrahim I M. He is the most Stupid religious ignorant I’ve ever heard.
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Nelly, I do not reply to the vicious Ibrahim itace muhammed and other Muslim trolls like him in the hope of reaching him, which is clearly hopeless–instead, I expose his savagery for the benefit of other readers here.
I think this is true of most people who reply to him.
Ted Tyler says
Ibrahim, could you cite any statements made by either Pat Condell or Robert Spencer that are false? Could you back your contentions with facts and references? At this point I would doubt that you would be able to do so due to your remarkable lack of knowledge.
Ted Tyler says
Ibrahim, could you cite any statements made by either Pat Condell or Robert Spencer that are false? Could you back your contentions with facts and references? At this point I would doubt that you would be able to do so due to your remarkable lack of knowledge.
gravenimage says
Pat Condell: “Robert Spencer is an Islamic scholar. He knows the Qur’an better than most imams.”
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Hear, hear!
In fact, in the debate Robert Spencer has with the Imam, the Imam actually complains to the host that he is not prepared to debate Qur’an quotes as Robert Spencer is. The host–hardly a fan of Robert Spencer, as is clear from his later hectoring tone, is nonetheless frustrated by this, and asks, “well, you *are* an Imam, aren’t you?” (paraphrase).
RCCA says
“Liberals” are always looking for a pro-Muslim scholar to learn about Islam, refuse to learn from someone like Robert Spencer who is a critic. LIberals insist on a positive view of Islam. Even though all the “moderate” Muslims who join interfaith alliances say outright they condemn homosexuality and same sex marriage liberals will ignore that. When Christian fundamentalist groups oppose SSM they are condemned for their hatred and homophobia. Christianity is condemned for its hypocrisy and bigotry.
Liberals really are not logical or rational. The LGBTQ community is the least rational of all. How much of an expert do you have to be to see how women, Christians and gays are treated in the Muslim world after all?
gravenimage says
I have a friend who is gay and understands the threat of Jihad. He is, as he readily notes, a rarity, though. In fact, the willful ignorance of most in the LGBTQ community drives him nuts.
Jim says
Yes, Mr Condell, you know, I know it, but the unwashed left (and quite a few on the right, sadly) refuses to acknowledge it. They are stuck in outdated dogma. On 911 I thought I was the only one to understand the true nature of Islam, having read the Koran and hadiths decades ago while in college. I felt alone. Listening to reporters and talk show guys was very irritating – they were, and many still are clueless. I was comforted somewhat when I stumbled on Spencer, Geller, Wood, Brigitte Gabriel, and a few others. More people are getting hip to Islams true nature. Just look at the increased numbers of commenters on this site as compared to a few years ago. Not huge, but it is a start. May it continue exponentially upward until even the left is able to see it (not holding my breath, however.)
Brigitte was the first one I stumble on and I thought at the time, at last, some one who knows the true nature of Islam. She appears to be strident, but she knows Islam. I think the next one I came across was Wood, then Spencer. It’s nice to have company that understands.
tim gallagher says
I agree with what you say, Jim. I hadn’t read the Koran as you had done, but I began to see there was an obvious problem with Islam and the behaviour of Muslims probably a bit over twenty years ago. Reading Robert Spencer and watching him on youtube, along with Pamela Geller, David Wood, Brigitte Gabriel and the ex-MUslims like Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, has educated me about the evil nature of Islam and, with their ability to give chapter and verse of the Koran as the source of Islam’s evil acts, they have helped enlighten me to some degree. I’m grateful to them all, especially Robert Spencer. What I can’t believe is that everyone hasn’t woken up to the evil nature of Islam by now. So many extremely slow learners out there. As you say, there are definite signs of more people waking up these days, which gives me hope. But surely everyone should be able to see the problems with Islam by now.
Pal says
“Ibrahim itace muhammed” is an islamic Troll !
Here is his Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008365110176
Porky The Crusader says
Is he from Banglatrash?? He looks very stupid on facecrook and must be Stupid too.
Ray Sears says
It (not he) is from Niger,!
gravenimage says
Yep–that’s his Facebook page. I’ve linked to it here before myself.
As for nationality, is almost certainly Nigerian.
gravenimage says
That should be , …he is…”.
JDow says
As of right now (0500 UCT) the video is back up.
{^_^}
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Satan (Holy Spirit) dedicated worshiper Gravenimage, Wellington wrote rubbish rejoinder arising from ignorance.
duh swami says
Do you possess the ‘deep understanding of Arabic
I Know what the English Quran says about 5″33…what does it really say in deep Arabic?
FYI says
Since the Holy Spirit is constantly being blasphemed by muslims..let me explain..
The Holy Spirit is the voice of God.
All True Prophets are guided by God’s wisdom which He gives freely.
All True prophets would tell you that you must obey God’s Commandments and that you are not free to twist them to suit yourself.
Neither the koran nor the “prophet” muhammed show any evidence of this.In fact they completely disagree with God’s Laws.
“The Spirit searches everything,even the hidden depths of God’s purposes”
1 Corinthians 2 v 10
Since most priests and pastors are too lazy to tell you this..let me explain that there is ONE EXCEPTION to God’s Mercy…
“Whoever says something evil against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven-now or ever”
Matthew 12 v 31
To equate the goodness and holiness of God’s Spirit with evil is positively satanic.
Even God draws the line at that.Even God will not allow that.Neither in the koran nor in anything muhammed said is there any evidence of God’s Holy Spirit.
To say that the Holy Spirit is…satan…can only come from the truly evil and godless,no matter how devoted to their religion they are.
“For no prophetic message ever came just from the will of man but men were under the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the messages that come from God”
2 Peter 1 v 20-21
So ALL Biblical prophecies in both the OT and NT were given to mankind by those selected prophets who were empowered by God’s Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is simply God’s True Voice.
Only those who are enemies of God would say that it is evil.And God is very clear about the fate of those who speak evil of it.Of course no priest or pastor is likely to tell you this these days since they have either watered down the Gospel’s warnings or else they are too lazy to preach it;they preach a gospel of false Mercy but completely ignore the Holiness and Justice of God.
Nothing in the koran ,no islamic “prophecy” comes from the Holy Spirit:that is why everything in islam is WRONG.
To call the Holy Spirit of God…satan..is self-evidently demonic.
martin says
Pat’s video output has gone right down for a whlle now.
gravenimage says
Is Ibrahim itace muhammed still claiming that Arabic has not changed in over a thousand years? What an idiot.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
FYI, there is no entity known as Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost presenting the voice of God who is part of God himself. The spirit descending on Christians like a dove is exactly the Satan.
martin says
Ibrahim, you muslims often delight in flaunting what sick, depraved and evil liars you are, so much, that I (and others) would not be surpised if you muslims were fully aware you are worshipping and obeying satan.
That is all you muslims are, satans whores.
Not forgetting of course that to be muslim requires COWARDICE, as allah in its own quran proves over and over that allah is not god, not the creator, ignorant NOT allknowing etc. etc etc.
Islam is a lure to weakest in character, the most evil, as it legalises and glorifies litterally ALL EVIL.
gravenimage says
What does Ibrahim itace muhammed consider the influence of “Satan”?
Loving your fellow man and treating them as you would have them treat you.
Islam is not just immoral; it is the *very inversion* or morality.
JawsV says
If you read Nonie Darwish’s book “Wholly Different” (2017) she says the Koran is the REVERSE of the Bible and that “Islam is a violent rebellion against the Bible” (p.67)
Please read it! An excellent book!
Champ says
The imbecile wrote:
FYI, there is no entity known as Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost presenting the voice of God who is part of God himself. The spirit descending on Christians like a dove is exactly the Satan.
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Stated by a man that willingly follows a liar, thief, rapist and mass-murderer …hmm.
gravenimage says
Very telling, Champ.
JawsV says
Mohammed is Allah. Islam is evil. That about settles it.
Stan Lee says
Pat’s absolutely correct, and Robert Spencer is an undeniable authority concerning Islam.