Not that this has anything to do with Islam, right, Mr. Miller? New York Deputy Police Commissioner John Miller says, “This isn’t about Islam, this isn’t about the mosque he attends.” He is ignoring the reality in front of his face, and depriving himself of the ability to understand Saipov’s motives and goals.
“Feds reveal what they found in NYC terror suspect Sayfullo Saipov’s truck,” by Stefan Becket, CBS News, November 2, 2017:
NEW YORK — The suspect charged in Tuesday’s terrorist attack in lower Manhattan had two cell phones with 90 videos of propaganda about the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and 3,800 images related to the terrorist group, prosecutors said.
In an affidavit filed in federal court on Wednesday, FBI agent Amber Tyree revealed what investigators discovered in the rental truck used to mow down 20 people along a bike lane in lower Manhattan, killing eight of them and seriously injuring 12.
Sayfullo Saipov, a 29-year-old native of Uzbekistan, was charged with providing material support to a terrorist organization and using a vehicle to cause violence. Investigators say Saipov was inspired by ISIS to carry out the attack, the deadliest in New York since 9/11. The use of a truck to run over civilians closely mirrors similar attacks that have plagued Europe. ISIS has posted instructions and urged its followers to carry out such an attack on its propaganda channels online.
Saipov is said to have rented a pickup truck from a Home Depot in New Jersey before driving into Manhattan to carry out the attack. He traveled for nearly a mile down a bike lane next to the West Side Highway, coming to a stop only after he slammed into a schoolbus. He then exited the vehicle carrying a black bag, a pellet gun and a paintball gun, yelling “God is great” in Arabic. Saipov was soon shot by a police officer and taken into custody.
“Allahu akbar” does not mean “God is great.” It means “Allah is greater,” i.e., greater than your god. It is a declaration of superiority and supremacism.
Investigators detailed what they found in Saipov’s truck after the attack. Inside the black bag, which Saipov dropped after being shot, officers found three knives and a wallet containing a Florida driver’s license in Saipov’s name.
Inside the truck itself, police found two cellphones and a stun gun on the floor by the driver’s side seat.
They also discovered a note about 10 feet from the truck with English and Arabic writing, according to the affidavit. The Arabic writing said “No God but God and Muhammed is his Prophet” and “Islamic Supplication. It will endure,” the affidavit says, noting that the latter phrase is “commonly used to refer to ISIS.”
The FBI obtained a search warrant to search the two cellphones found inside the truck. The first phone was found to contain 90 videos of ISIS propaganda. Saipov told investigators from his hospital bed that he was inspired to carry out the attack after watching ISIS-related videos on his cellphone, according to the affidavit.
The videos described in the affidavit included footage of ISIS fighters running over a prisoner with a tank, a beheading video, and an instructional video about making a homemade explosive. About 3,800 images were also found on the phone, including many with the logo of ISIS’ propaganda arm and several of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group’s leader….
Dum Spiro says
I guess they’re saying Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Neither does Muhammad, according to them.
Readers of JihadWatch know better…
— Spero
John says
Agree. they can only lie
Lydia says
Islam has nothing to do with islam……….. that is the classic error they all are making!!!
It’s so ‘Orwellian’!
LOL!
Michael Copeland says
Encouragingly, Stefan Becket writes of “the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)”.
This is a refreshing change from Obama’s “ISIL” (which had nothing to do with Islam).
The wall is cracking.
roger woodhouse says
‘Terrorism’Nothing to do with Islam’ is the usual lefty politicians response which is merely a platitude to the semi illiterate masses to keep them quiet.
Even that ‘cry’ is being silenced by all these attrocities being commited in the name of Islam.The silent majority are not fooled.We know exactly what is going on in Europe .
Charles says
Wait for Francis the pope to exonerate this Jihadi “immigrant”. Obviously, this looks more and more like war.
As Francis Bergoglio is cottoning to high Muslim leaders and turning a hard face to violently persecuted Middle East Christians, does that not make him a War Criminal?
Benedict says
“There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet” –
That’s right! And both of them together with their humanoids are not welcome here.
Voytek Gagalka says
“No God but God and Muhammad is his Prophet” is not any “Islamic Supplication” but shahada, Islamic declaration of faith. Phrase is not only “commonly used to refer to ISIS” but is fundamental to all</b? Mohammedans, it is the first pillar of Islam. So is Islam having nothing to do with Islam, Stefan “stupid” Becket?
gravenimage says
That’s exactly what it is, Voytek.
PRCS says
As I recall, Robert Spencer once stated (paraphrasing): the only thing that can be said about all Muslims is that they’ve said the Shahada.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
He’s just being an excellent Mohammadin. Shame on our willfully ignorant for not acknowledging and acting on it.
Voytek Gagalka says
“No God but God and Muhammad is his Prophet” is not any “Islamic Supplication” but shahada, Islamic declaration of faith. Phrase is not only “commonly used to refer to ISIS” but is fundamental to all Mohammedans, it is the first pillar of Islam. So is Islam having nothing to do with Islam, Stefan “stupid” Becket?
Ashley says
No claim from the Islamic State that Saipov operated under their directive…
I am now convinced Stephen Paddock was ISIS…
gravenimage says
It is certainly possible, Ashley. That’s what ISIS claimed.
mummymovie says
The fact that there were 3,800 images, in addition to the 90 videos, tells us that it is not some recent snap development in the otherwise completely normal personality of young Sayfullo (“Sword of allah”) that caused him to metamorphosise into some deranged killer who spoke directly to his god and obeyed commands theretofore to kill, as the authorities have been trying to spin it from the get-go; he, through his devout religious adherence to ideological directives from the Koran, has been cultivating this mindset and perhaps planning this murder spree for a long time.
This is entirely about islam, Mr. Miller… and probably about the mosque he attends, too.
mummymovie says
The fact that there were 3,800 images, in addition to the 90 videos, tells us that it is not some recent snap development in the otherwise completely normal personality of young Sayfullo (“Sword of allah”) that caused him to metamorphosize into some deranged killer who spoke directly to his god and obeyed commands theretofore to kill, as the authorities have been trying to spin it from the get-go; he, through his devout religious adherence to ideological directives from the koran, has been cultivating this mindset and perhaps planning this murder spree for a long time.
This is entirely about islam, Mr. Miller… and probably about the mosque he attends, too.
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
Demonstrating once again that willful ignorance of evil (e.g., John Miller) is actually worse than evil itself (e.g., Sayfullo Saipov) because it continues to give cover to evil and insures that evil is not ended but perpetuated.
You’d think by now most everyone in the West would realize that Islam is like no other religion, that rooted in its theology and the character of its founder is pure control-freak garbage that is deleterious in the extreme to true tolerance and tranquility. And that’s what both Islam and Mohammed are, i.e., metaphorical garbage, the likes of which have never been equaled over such a long period of time in the entire history of humanity.
Islam is a colossal error. Start from this premise and the rest of the truth will start to fall into proper place relatively easily. Don’t start from this premise and, like John Miller, you will fruitlessly be searching in most all directions except the correct one.
The madness and stupidity continues. Right now, it seems there is no end in sight to either. John Miller serves as a “poster boy” here for this madness and stupidity. Surely.
gravenimage says
Fine comments, Wellington.
PRCS says
Fearful of being labeled an insensitive, racist, islamophobe–probably hadn’t received the CAIR approved talking points yet.
Benedict says
Evil is active under many banners and many disguises. But it is getting more and more difficult to have the beautifying makeup stick to the two faces of Islam. Dr. Jekyll can’t keep Mr. Hyde under control much longer and John Miller, head of NYPD intelligence and counterterrorism, is ignoring the face in front of his face and its ugly reality.
SAM says
There has to be point that no one can say evil Islam is peaceful. Europians, Iranians, Indians and all other infidels knew that Islam was no good Just few decades ago
What happened. Infidels prospered thanks to freedom which created capitalism result ing in prosperity which has never been seen before.
Now we infidels are prosperous fat and lazy to the point of not being able to re learn history. STRANGE!!!!
gravenimage says
Saipov had 3,800 ISIS images on his phone, note saying “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet”
……………….
Sounds like a pious Muslim to me.
fbijihadidefender says
John Miller just implied that those who believe “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet” is not Muslim. Miller is right, all Muslim are not Muslim. Miller is living Allah.
PRCS says
The tank video.
At least one “journalist” referred to the deceased as “innocent”.
Rational people would agree.
But to the Muslims who sentenced him, those operating the tank, and the spectators–THAT Muslim was not innocent.
He was–as I recall–a member of the Syrian Army who “confessed” to having driven over jihadist’s bodies: his punishment was of an “eye for an eye” nature.
Such is the ideology.
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/isis.executes.19.year.old.syrian.by.running.him.over.with.a.tank/68737.htm
RAB says
Gee! I wonder if Saipov was a Muslim!
tim gallagher says
This Muslim terrorist has made it as clear as possible that he is committing his terrorist act to try to advance Islam. He couldn’t make it clearer. It must be clear to the police chief Miller. So he’s telling the most outrageous lie for whatever the reason. I was thinking what an embarrassing job to have to go out there and tell such mega lies. I guess egregious lies is the right word. God should strike people like him dumb for the truly outrageous level of lying he, and others like him, have done. I find it hard to believe that anyone out there believes the lie Miller has told them, so it’s really a waste of time telling lies like that anyway.
Adam says
1400 years of evidence, and still it seems we’re unsure what this crazy little thing called islam is really all about.
Is it possible to have more blind guides? We don’t seem to be full up yet.
These backbiters, these backstabbers, these backbenchers, these weak gutless vermin, who refuse to defend themselves and there families will reap what they sow.
All logic and reason insist on a rejection of islam. Wage war on it until it is destroyed. Accept nothing but victory and total destruction of this vile death cult. In the end there is no other way for good and decent people to live free. Have the courage.
gravenimage says
Actually, Westerners quite understood the threat of Islam until fairly recently.
Lydia says
That’s what got him into all of that trouble.
If he had the right fact:
The God of the Bible is the one and only true God, and He is not the god of any other religion, and Jesus is His ONLY Messenger and Son (in the major sense of the word messenger, aside from OT prophets, etc.), then he would have been up to something good instead!
Chand says
Ya agreed. But one generally believes in the God ingrained into one’s brain since infancy and in childhood. Then it becomes almost impossible to delete that programming.
So for Muslims the Good God, creator of heaven and earth, is the God of the Koran revealed by the Prophet Muhammad. They fear and revere Him and they adore the prophet, being basically ignorant of his true personality or being in denial.
Just as someone might become disillusioned with modern society, consumerism, immorality, nihilism, etc. and in Saifullo’s case one can add: racist prejudice from Whites, Blacks, Hispanics; failure to assimilate; lack of opportunities; prejudice against Muslims as he sported an Islamic beard, etc. and so seek solace in religion and read the Bible or attend mass or Bible studies or take up Zen meditation or go to a yoga Ashram, etc. so a Muslim might seek that in the Koran or start attending Mosques. Then with the war on jihad and the jihad against the world happening today he might come across Jihadism in the Koran.
Just as other religions teaches transcending one’s ego for a higher cause or a merging of our smaller self into a Universal Self or Oneness so in Islam there is the way to attain selflessness but it is diametrically opposite to the Christian, Buddhist or Hindu paths. There is no provision for escaping into a mountain or a monastery or ashram and sit in meditation and contemplation. The only path is a difficult path of struggle………..JIHAD.
Now he/she might accept the milder version of Jihad…………a struggle with one’s inner self to improve oneself, etc. and take to Sufi meditation or Dervish dancing or Qawalli devotional singing.
And the other path is the violent, warrior’s one towards effacing of one’s small self into the glory of Martyrdom…………Shahadat, to be forever inscribed in Allah’s eternal plaque. Then there might be the added prize of the 72 houris/virgins, if he so believes.
“There is no monasticism in Islam. In Islam the monasticism is Jihad.” (Muhammad the Arabian Prophet.)
So for some Muslims sacrificing oneself in war and violent struggle of jihad is a religious duty of the highest order. It is the highest form of worship.
So this Saifullo followed one version of Jihad to attain the highest glory in his religion. The modern Jihadi ideologues like the Egyptian Qutb, Zawahiri and then Bin Laden manipulated the theory of Jihad and proclaimed that killing civilians is accepted in today’s religious war.
So Saifullo thought he too was following the only true God, His Messenger and he was doing good!
I, however, as an atheist, think he’s completely deluded and that religion is one of the causes of human delusions.
Suebe Hatz says
All that, for I don’t believe in God, and religion is the reason for all the craziness in the world.
gravenimage says
Chand wrote:
So for Muslims the Good God, creator of heaven and earth, is the God of the Koran revealed by the Prophet Muhammad. They fear and revere Him and they adore the prophet, being basically ignorant of his true personality or being in denial.
………………………….
Were it true that all Muslims are in ignorance of the true nature of their “Prophet”, then there would not be so much violent Jihad–almost 32,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11.
More:
Just as someone might become disillusioned with modern society, consumerism, immorality, nihilism, etc. and in Saifullo’s case one can add: racist prejudice from Whites, Blacks, Hispanics; failure to assimilate; lack of opportunities; prejudice against Muslims as he sported an Islamic beard, etc.
………………………….
What claptrap–there is no evidence that Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics were racist toward Saipov. This would be especially off in the first case, since Saipov, being Russian, is himself White.
Besides, most people have experienced racism at one time or another–I have–and this does not spur them to mow down innocent people in a bike path.
More:
and so seek solace in religion and read the Bible or attend mass or Bible studies or take up Zen meditation or go to a yoga Ashram, etc. so a Muslim might seek that in the Koran or start attending Mosques. Then with the war on jihad and the jihad against the world happening today he might come across Jihadism in the Koran.
………………………….
The idea that this is some sort of obscure tenet of Islam is absurd–would that it *were* obscure.
More:
So for some Muslims sacrificing oneself in war and violent struggle of jihad is a religious duty of the highest order. It is the highest form of worship.
So this Saifullo followed one version of Jihad to attain the highest glory in his religion. The modern Jihadi ideologues like the Egyptian Qutb, Zawahiri and then Bin Laden manipulated the theory of Jihad and proclaimed that killing civilians is accepted in today’s religious war.
So Saifullo thought he too was following the only true God, His Messenger and he was doing good!
………………………….
This is all true. Isn’t this a good reason for keeping Muslims out of the civilized world?
More:
I, however, as an atheist, think he’s completely deluded and that religion is one of the causes of human delusions.
………………………….
One may consider many the aspects of many faiths to be silly–but surely none are as barbaric as Islam.
Debi Brand says
“New York Deputy Police Commissioner John Miller says, ‘This isn’t about Islam, this isn’t about the mosque he attends.'”
In face of Islam and those who live by its tenets, New York Deputy Police Commissioner John Miller proves himself to be just one among the countless willingly blind helpless fools.
Guest says
Does New York have the death penalty, because if they do, he should get the death penalty
mummymovie says
“I’ll never see your face again” says the son to his dead mother and/or father.
The denials fuel the death dirge; it cries out eerily as the funeral procession slowly marches on.
You can count me among the enemies of islam.
I’ve had enough of this shit.
mummymovie says
I’ve shed my liberal,empathetic skin. To hell with civics- I’m Counter-Jihad, all the way,
It was fun to rage against the machine in the old days.
We won’t get to voice ourselves, soon:
Drill Dave from MDC.
Put these people on the spot: the reason they’re quiet is because of the left wing conundrum…
And because they’re quietly getting off of old ideas.
I am a life-lIong punk rocker, and I invite the discussion.
Otherwise, they’re just ducking and hiding.
mummymovie says
Ask Dave from MDC how he feels about jihad murder in the nAme of some god.
Put the spotlight on him, and if he dares to answer, it might deter “Antifa”.
He’s the leader, and silently facilitating everything he’s always stood against.
Then again, perhaps he has no children, so that’s why.
They would have his liberal punk rock head a stake, and he knows it.
Merkel, Macron, etc etc etc
Suebe Hatz says
Why in the world is the media privy to information on this piece of crap that killed the 8 people in New York.
We should not be telling the world and the rest of his comrades in crazy. Let’s just let them all know that we know whom they are. Why are we such idiots. Why do we give the media this info. That was one of the reasons it took so long to find Bin Laden. Remember when the News Media blabbed to Al Quida that we were tracking them in Afghanistan with their cell phones. Then suddenly all cell phones ceased to be used. Good job Fake News. Can’t stand all except FOX.
FYI says
In truth..
“There is no god “allah” and muhammed is no prophet”
The koranic allah is NOT the same as the Biblical version of God…
Valkyrie Ziege says
; “New York Deputy Police Commissioner John Miller says, “This isn’t about Islam, this isn’t about the mosque he attends.” Yup, nothin’ to see here folks, it’s only a comedy of errors. Lucy, you gots some ‘splain to do!
Mark says
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patriotliz says
@Mark,
Excellent video from Bill Warner that I’ve been spreading around for a few years on blog posts and twitter. No one teaches the h/o Islam in Europe—which was previously invaded by IslamoNazis or, in America which fought the Barbary Muslims and gave rise to our ‘leatherneck’ Marines. The truth about Islamic history would be so “racist” and hateful. I’m so sick of ignoring the evil of Islam and, as Bill Warner explains, Muslims can’t legitimately “reform” Islam:
https://youtu.be/H6kWrI0V0LQ
patriotliz says
ISLAMOPHOBIA is best represented by the Leftists who are AFRAID that infidels who criticize Islam and Muslims for their Islamic terror attacks will incite MORE acts of terror from… those nice Muslims—what do you expect?…you provoked them…so shut up or else you will be censored and charged w/ a “HATE CRIME” simply for bad-mouthing Islam and Muslims…because it’s better for us to adapt and placate them and show RESPECT for their alien culture of jihad and supremacism rather than we try to assimilate Muslims into our culture which is obviously more evil…at least according to the Hate-America-First Leftists. And GOD (not the allah god) forbid an infidel does go berzerk and commit horrific attack on ordinary Muslims….you can be SURE that ALL anti-Jihad infidels will be blamed and censured as extremists terrorists. I got hundreds of anti-jihad images and Robert Spencer articles on MY computer…so PLEASE no violence against o/w “peaceful” Muslims! We need to BAN ALL MUSLIMS coming into our country because there is no way to vet any Muslim unless they are openly heretical and their life is in danger…from from their fellow devout Muslims.
Guest says
There is no Allah, and Muhammad was a blood thirsty war monger who pretended to be a messiah to gain power
Elizabeth says
Very true….
Elizabeth says
Another nutter yelling ‘Ali Snackbar’!!! Brainwashed from the minute they are born!!!