Holding prayers in the street is not the result of “mosque shortages.” Throughout the history of Christianity, Christians established house churches when they didn’t have a church to pray in — that is, they would just go to someone’s house and hold services there. There were no ostentatious prayers in the street. These street prayers are actually a confrontation and a statement: the Muslims in Clichy-la-Garenne are asserting their supremacy, implicitly demanding that everyone else who wants to pass along the street has to accommodate them. This is a manifestation of the old Islamic dictum that “Islam must dominate and not be dominated.” Consequently, Mayor Remi Muzueau is entirely correct to try to stop this. It is inevitable that eventually the leaders of all Western countries are going to have to decide whether they’re going to defend their own laws and culture, or whether they’re going to bow to Islamic norms and practices one by one until finally they are Sharia states. This confrontation is coming, and cannot be avoided.
“Tensions as Paris suburb tries to stop Muslim street prayers,” Associated Press, November 10, 2017 (thanks to the Geller Report):
CLICHY-LA-GARENNE, France – Tensions have erupted as residents and the mayor of a Paris suburb try to block Muslims from praying in the street, in a dispute that reflects nationwide problems with mosque shortages.
Police formed a human barricade between a few dozen Muslim residents trying to pray Friday in the streets of Clichy-la-Garenne and more than 100 demonstrators trying to stop them.
As the Muslims chanted “Allahu akbar,” or “God is great” in Arabic, the demonstrators sang the Marseillaise.
Mayor Remi Muzueau led demonstrators to the site where Muslims have been praying for months. Those praying tried to set up on a side street instead, but police pushed them back, prompting minor skirmishes….
Infidel says
Shameless beasts who revel in irritating others with their supremacist prayers.. And when someone objects, they will play the eternal victims. Should be booted out of France.
mortimer says
Fight their supremacism with THE HADITHS: use black dogs, women, Jews, Magians, donkeys and pigs on the streets of Paris.
Bukhari: Book 2, Hadith 704: Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
…..Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying: I think the Apostle of Allah said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone’s throw.
Jim says
It would never work because the dogs and pigs are too clean to be associating with the dirty muslims.
apexpoint says
Send the police dogs over n they will run like mad. The solution is so simple.
Lu says
Mortimer, I always envy your erudite responses and comments … knowing that the times to come will be ones of bloody conflict and losses on the part of Civilization. But that’s how the cards are dealt – for the time being, let’s enjoy your sage comments …
gravenimage says
+1
TL says
At first I thought that you were referring to the police, but then I read “their supremacist prayers”. And then I went back and read the paragraph that begins with “Mayor Remi Muzueau”. Holy smoke! Can it be true? Some police in France are resisting Muslim colonialism and aggression?
gravenimage says
Actually, 100 “right-wing” politicians protested Muslim street prayers–as though you have to be “right-wing” to oppose Muslims taking over France.
Save Europe says
Should be booted up their posteriors as they are raised into the air, quite frankly.
John Forbes says
THE FACT THAT THEY CAN DO THIS DEMONSTRATES THAT THE CONTROL THESE AREAS ALREADY !
AS FOR DEPORTATION – PIPE DREAM ! EU & THE SO CALLED HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION HAVE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DEPORT PEOPLE & YOU PAY FOR THE LEGAL TO KEEP THEM IN FRANCE !
beyondculturewars says
My thoughts as well, and the question for Robert Spencer is:
If the muslims begin to use the streets as a mosque, then don’t the streets automatically become part of the uma? And can never be claimed by non-believers again?
jay says
Who would employ such people….or are they on the public dole?
Jack says
Jay, your question “are they on the public dole” is rhetorical, right? Of course they are on the public teat; the women are baby factories and the men are no better than animals that have been out to stud; actually, that statement MAY be demeaning to animals; i do apologize to them
Bob says
Should be booted out of every civilised country, post haste!
Charles says
Increasingly, this will happen for a country that shunned National Front’s electoral solutions.
jihad3tracker says
THIS IS THE DROP-BY-DROP-BY-DROP STRATEGY. Tire out Parisians (and citizens in other European cities) until they give up. Then, of course, Allah’s fan club moves on to the next “NEW NORMAL” demand. Actually a smart and effective tactic.
mummymovie says
Very effective indeed.
“Mosque shortage” my ass!
A real mosque shortage would put a stop to this crap rather quickly, perhaps; Someone somewhere is instructing these scumbags to deliberately employ this as a tactic. Where else would these directives be coming from.
Mass mosque closure is exactly what needs to start happening to curb this s%#t.
Bring on the real mosque shortage!
Michael Copeland says
“Someone … is instructing…”.
Why, of course.
“The only power the muslim community possesses is to acknowledge and obey” –
AMJA
Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America
JOHN says
At the risk of condoning violence, perhaps a 20 ton truck running at speed might clear the jam up. After all, muslims have no qualms using these techniques against the French, among others.
Angus says
That’s a tactic only muslims can use – the West is too civilized… and that’s one of the reasons the West is LOSING.
gravenimage says
Being civilized does not mean being clueless, weak, and appeasing–this is our problem, not having civilized values.
Aardvark says
Probably cheaper to spray the street with lard (pig fat), or sprinkle liberally with crispy bacon bits.
Diane Harvey says
How about holding all these Muslim prayers right there in Stanford’s Quad, five times a day, with powerful loud speakers so that the Islamic prayers can be heard in all of Stanford’s buildings?
mortimer says
That would change some minds at Stanford. They are living in a bubble. Stanford students have never experienced Dhimmitude.
jihad3tracker says
Hello Diane — The cyclone of delayed adolescence and privileged supremacism created by Muslims, Snowflakes, and Thugs might delay the arrival of public-address-system calls to prayer at Stanford.
Emilie Green says
“This confrontation is coming, and cannot be avoided.”
Without question it’s coming. And the longer it’s delayed, the uglier it will be.
mortimer says
Emilie… totally correct. Nip it in the bud. And keep nipping it.
eduardo odraude says
On the other hand, the longer it is delayed, and the more slowly it happens, the more it could be like the frog in the water pot slowly heating up to boil. The frog never detects the slow and gradual change and therefore gets cooked. From that point of view, maybe Merkel, unintentionally, is our ally, because she has so accelerated the process that the frog may be alerted, jump out of the pot, and survive. But some nations of Europe, before they know it, may get cooked by the gradualness of the process. They might succumb with hardly a whimper, with hardly a fight.
apexpoint says
Merkel is no ally but the greatest enemy of EU by speeding up the process of “heating up”. “Jumping out of the pot” is not the solution for it means leaving the country for good.
Of course civil wars are on the card in EU. And the winners are those holding the best weapons.
David M says
Soon the “skirmish” will be a full on war in Paris.
p bay says
Civil war is coming…
Elise says
The wording “a few dozens Muslims VS “more than 100” demonstrators; as well as referring to the muslims as “residents” instead of the French people; betrays the writer’s leftist agenda. “Nationwide problems with mosque shortages as well. The problem is the influx of muslims. Send them to Saudi Arabia.
p bay says
North KOrea, better
mummymovie says
Hawaii.
jay says
Muslims need their 5 daily fixes of repitition and indoctrination…..and they MUST be ON TIME. They are obviously of a much lower intelligence order than civilized society. They should live with their own kind, who will not look upon them as the idiots they are.
duh swami says
Just bring in 4-5 fire trucks and hose the place down…
Rob Crawford says
Set up pissoirs and hose the place down, IYKWIM.
D Austin says
Microwave area denial weapons would make them feel warm and welcome…
p bay says
Use rapid dogs, foxes, etc
blitz2b says
Good on mayor Remi ….. He has something that a lot of western politicians and elites are lacking…. A set !
jay says
Agreed! and he should be widely publicly praised. It’s time to call a spade a spade. At first these people were a curiosity, and almost mesmerized the West into thinking they had something special that we couldn’t understand. It’s time to deal with these permanently overgrown adolescents the way they need to be treated. Dr. Phil would send any such person with this level of mental ruination to a special facility for a very long time.
Benedict says
Muslim public “prayer” has nothing to do with prayer. It’s a political manifestation fueled by the hypocrisy that is the hallmark of Islam. Muslims take pride in an audience when they pray, especially an audience of unbelievers; it gives higher points with Allah.
How different from the teachings of Jesus:
“But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.”
“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others.”
Rob Crawford says
Islam requires exaggerated practice in public in order to enforce compliance.
Benedict says
That’s possible.
Another thought occurred to me: when Muslims expose their chains, as they do in these public prayers, it could be an unarticulated cry for help?
gravenimage says
I’m afraid it is more likely to be a show of aggression.
eduardo odraude says
Benedict, it’s remarkable how many things in Islam and Christianity are diametric opposites.
This page, if you scroll down when you get there, has a couple of comparison charts:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/jesus-muhammad.aspx
Benedict says
Thanks for the link, e.o. First time I see this juxtaposition.
Islam is indeed the anti-Christ religion par excellence; “anti” understood as both “against” and “in stead of”.
gravenimage says
Yes–an important link, Eduardo and Benedict.
Karen says
A very interesting list, eduardo.
Andy says
I saw this comment by Betsy Lalich
One can only push the French people so far. Eventually they will rise up to protect their land and culture. That culture does not include the Islamization of France. More Mosques? There are plenty in the Arab world, where Churches or Synagogues are either forbidden or destroyed. Vive La France !
I think Bestsy Lalich’s comment goes for all of the western worlds nations.
eduardo odraude says
Let’s hope so, Andy.
gravenimage says
Like Eduardo, I hope so, Andy.
Certainly, great to see some signs of life from the French in this story.
seagull says
People forget how cruel Europeans can become when pushed too far…
And the French in the past turned beheading into a very efficient industrial process.
Voytek Gagalka says
Mohammedans: always poking in eyes of all non-believers, asserting their supremacy. That is the meaning of their jihadi war-call “Allahu Akbar“. Confrontation on all of that maybe is coming but it will most probably not materialize on the site of non-believers; rather Mohammedans will riot demanding more and more “accommodation.” Look: it is already partial victory for them when the press underscores reason as “nationwide problems with mosque shortages.” Yeah, “shortages of mosques”! Rather it is shortage on courage to name the REAL problem!
TL says
It appears that the courage is appearing, and wherever it does in France, the following words await those who are opposed to replacement by the globalists’ appointed colonists:
Que veut cette horde d’esclaves,
De traîtres, de rois conjurés?
.
.
.
C’est nous qu’on ose méditer
De rendre à l’antique esclavage!
Aux armes, citoyens…
Quoi! des cohortes étrangères
Feraient la loi dans nos foyers!
.
.
.
Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L’opprobre de tous les partis
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Pretty soon the market for My Pillows will become saturated; everyone who wants a My Pillow will have bought one. What then will the My Pillow company do? Easy: branch out into a new product, the My Sutrah. As explained in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutrah , a sutrah is a prayer screen to prevent your prayers from being invalidated when a donkey, black dog, or woman passes between you and Mecca. It would be very easy for the My Pillow guy to modify his TV commercial to sell the My Sutrah. He won’t even have to change the pendant around his neck, which already depicts the instrument of Islamic punishment referred to in Quran 5:33.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djYiWhCSk6Q
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Sorry, I didn’t review the whole My Pillow commercial before posting it. The My Sutra commercial will need a higher level of Muslim decorum; e.g., an endorsement by an imam who is a professor of Islamic Studies.
TL says
Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons!
Qu’un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!
Ian says
Magic words: ” It is inevitable that eventually the leaders of all Western countries are going to have to decide whether they’re going to defend their own laws and culture, or whether they’re going to bow to Islamic norms and practices one by one until finally they are Sharia states. This confrontation is coming, and cannot be avoided.”
Tom says
As the mayor appears to agree that the street praying is an obstruction to the free flow of traffic why doesn’t he direct the police to clear the street, using whatever reasonable force may be necessary such as water cannon from fire trucks or CS gas canisters fired from portable hand held launchers.
The middle eastern male respects strength and has no respect for weakness, so a show of strength is needed for those obstructing the street in order for them to give the town any respect.
It may only take one demonstration of resolve to send a message that will be accepted and which will prevent further obstructive behaviour, and encourage them to do their praying in a more appropriate venue.
gravenimage says
He *is* having the police clear the streets. Glad to see it.
MTMLA says
How about a blasting sound…some music or something to disturb their prayers..
David Grisez says
This is a clear demonstration of Islamic Supremacy. It is basically saying that we have taken over your city and there is nothing you can do about it. Like Muslim occupied zones, it is a demonstration of taking over unbelievers land small pieces at a time. And give enough time the Muslims completely take over using this strategy.
Tom says
That strategy has worked for them for hundreds of years and appears to be successful in Europe today.
When overwhelmed by the numbers of the indigenous peoples, Islam uses the “passive” religious method to establish their claim to infidel land knowing that the host nation will permit open displays of religious prayer.
What is unfortunate is that what the host nation perceives as a peaceful religious practice is actually the overt act of establishing superiority by Islam.
MTMLA says
Yes, they can do it because the corrupt politicians, bought and owned by the oil rich nations , allowed these demonstrations, protected them and punished the French citizens who dared to complain. Remember what they did to Brigitte Bardot. This is the natural consequence of such treason.
gravenimage says
“Skirmishes” as Mayor of Paris suburb tries to block Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” from praying in the street
…………………….
In other words, how *dare* the filthy Infidels not just roll over for for Muslim conquest?
Kudos to Mayor Remi Muzueau for pushing back!
Wellington says
The Muslim prayer position is so fitting————ass in the air. I mean does any Muslim ever stop to consider how ridiculous the Muslim prayer position looks? It’s reality in caricature form. Well, as I noted already, so fitting. Very.
gravenimage says
Wellington, it makes me think of the old “politically incorrect” Popeye cartoons, with Mohammedans yowling “Salami, salami, boloney!”.
The awful truth says
This is a huge problem in non Muslim countries like Sri Lanka with Muslim minorities. It’s amplified sound pollution that’s pretty nasty. It could be seen as a freedom of religion issue and needs muzzling before it’s too late. Singapore would never allow this.
gravenimage says
Muslims impose this wherever they think they can get away with it.
Obscura says
Blocking streets like this and demanding that non-muslims appease the demands of Jihadis should be treated as mass criminality. Do whatever it takes to round up every single one of these protesters, fine then punitively, throw them in prison, deport them, just get them off the streets of civilized communities. Do whatever it takes. This is an obvious existential threat to non-muslims. Use riot police, the national guard, the army, whatever it takes or be prepared to suffer the consequences of letting Islamic supremacist criminals like these roam freely.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The Louvre opens a branch museum in Abu Dhabi. Haven’t the Louvre’s board of governors ever heard of Mohammdan aniconism or is this the start of the transfer of Europe’s valuables to the middle east? Macron called the museum a bridge between civilizations!!! ????? Is that a bridge any European should want? Which French traitors will be making themselves rich with this project? “Some of the works are on loan from France.” Yeah, right. Chirac started the project saying that, “extremism could be fought with art.” Now that’s what I call a statement born in inexcusable ignorance. Apparently, the Guggenheim will be building a similar ‘museum in the desert.’
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.3674343
gravenimage says
I’m an art historian, Flavius–this idiocy is *deeply* disturbing. How long before pious Muslims start taking these exhibits out?
In just the past few years, Muslims have destroyed museums in Egypt and in the Maldives, have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas, have destroyed libraries in Egypt and Mali, and have destroyed countless artifacts in Iraq, Pakistan, and Mali.
Giving them great art to destroy is suicidal madness.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
We are far too cozy with these Mohammadans. Just as the Byzantines and even the Venetians were too cozy with the Mohammadans of their day. If the Byzantines and Latins had worked harder at a rapprochement and resisted the “big money” (as these French fools have failed to do), the calamity of 1453 might have been delayed, or even avoided altogether.
One day these eastern potentates will lose control of their subdued populations. And just like the Hagia Sophia, these museums will have their contents broken, burned, melted down or/and sold for cash (the best outcome, considering) and the impressive building converted to a mosque.
BTW: It is ironic/interesting that one or more of the Saudi princesses are art historians and heavily involved in the Venice Biennale. The big Arab oil money will be our undoing.
MTMLA says
Please read EURABIA , by Bat Ye’or to learn how ME oil money and rich contracts have bought European politicians into destroying their own countries and make them dhimmies to Islam.
MFritz says
The photo is really scary. See the future of Europe if nothing happens.
trisha says
Protests need to be more organised. Saw a sad, touching video of concerned French patriots protesting one of these street prayers. They sang the Marseillaise and shouted slogans, but the Muslims had an imam with a loud speaker and just ismugly gnored them.
Next time, they need to bring loud speakers, ghetto blasters playing the French national anthem. Illegal. yes, but so is blocking the streets.Don’t bring dogs or donkeys, likely to get hurt, but do have plenty of women protesters. If you can, arrange for a local resident to ring an ambulance or the fire brigade (pompiers). Have all protesters armed with papers detailing the illegality of street prayers, in case the police are called. Have lots of photographers documenting the proceedings.. Maybe even get street vendors to obtain a licence to hawk their goods on the said street.
But, basically, produce enough noise to drown out the caterwauling with French patriotism
gravenimage says
Yes–bravo to these patriotic Frenchmen and women!
dumbledoresarmy says
From the article – “As the Muslims chanted “Allahu akbar,” or “God is great” in Arabic, the demonstrators sang the Marseillaise…”.
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Vive la France!
Here’s another song the demonstrators can use, when they do the *next* demonstration.
By all means continue with the Marseillaise… but they should also use *this*.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CO&hl=es-419&v=wb7zokdXbnY
“Sainte Jeanne de France, priez, priez pour nous…”.
gravenimage says
Wonderful.
FYI says
And allah the god they are praying to?
allah who curses the Jews and the Christians k 9:30.
allah the god of hate.
The leftard liberal politicians like Hollande,Macron and Merkel allowed this to happen.
Bye,bye Europe!
dumbledoresarmy says
Here’s another account.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=66806
Saturday, 11 November 2017
French mayor leads protest to stop Muslim worshippers praying in street
In *this* report – from “The Local” the numbers are given as being respectively “more than 60″ **French** and ‘around 200” Muslims.
That is: the French patriots were significantly outnumbered by the Muslims engaging in the massed-threat-display.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20171110/french-mayor-leads-protest-to-stop-muslim-worshippers-praying-in-street
Whereas the ‘Associated Press’ slyly words it to suggest that the Muslims are poor persecuted victims.
“Police formed a human barricade between a few dozen Muslim residents trying to pray Friday in the streets of Clichy-la-Garenne and more than 100 demonstrators trying to stop them.”
Very interesting contrast between the two reports. My own guess is that The Local is correct – the non-Muslims were fewer than the Muslims – whilst Associated Press is fudging the numbers.
dumbledoresarmy says
The report linked by Mr Spencer is very sketchy.
The report in “The Local” has a good deal more detail, and allows us to hear some of what the French protesters had to say.
‘Mayor Muzeau was happy with the protest: “We did what the police should have done a long time ago.”
‘”The public space cannot be taken over illegally,” said President of Île-de-France Valerie Pecresse. “We are in a country where we do not pray in the street, the rules of law are being flouted.”‘
Spot on. Indeed, they are. Mohamedans have zero respect for non-Muslim laws and authorities. They recognise NO law other than the unlaw that is the sharia.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the additional information, DDA.
jay says
Everything stops for praying….even thinking. Timeout for more repititious indoctrination. These are MIND CONTROL sessions. They are told repeatedly to kill the infidels. Check out the mosques for weapons caches.
Linde Barrera says
So glad and so proud that Mayor Muzueau and some residents of this suburb of Paris protested and sang the national anthem of France. Streets and sidewalks are no place for praying for anyone. Citizen pushback is essential to stop whacko events like this.
Freddy says
Akbar is wrongly translated by Great. It means Greater/ Greater than any other God……
Screeminmeeme says
Hundreds of Muslims praying in the streets is clearly an act intended to display their supremacy and dominance over the existing culture. They block the free movement of people and control the area for a period of time.
Happening here in New York with the acquiescence of Mayor DeBlasio who refuses to allow the police to do their job and force the Muslims to either move or be arrested.
antoninus says
Spray the streets with pig piss and then see what they do?.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Blocking roads is an ACT OF WAR, and ALL the moslems know of this historical tactic:
Re: Sura 5:33 (The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land):
Allah said next, …
“The recompense of those who wage war* against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.”
Sura 5:33 doesn’t demand equal retribution or even merely “defensive” warfare, since the word corruption (fasad) can refer to someone who speaks out against Muhammad and/or Islam.
This means that the above-prescribed punishments will be inflicted on a person even if the individual hasn’t caused any physical injury to anyone, as the explanatory hadiths which append the Qur’an, and supplemental tafsir notes explain:
*” ‘Wage war’ mentioned here means, OPPOSE AND CONTRADICT, and it includes DISBELIEF, **blocking roads** and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.” (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Volume 3, p. 161)
i.e: Those who even only verbally resist the islamic exotortion racket’s claims, by declaring that Muhammad was wrong, *must* be murdered for their “slanderous blasphemy” by the Muslims!
Politicianphobia says
The chasm between Islam and jahiliyyah is great, and a bridge is not to be built across it so the people on the two sides may mix with each other, but only so the people of jahiliyyah may come over to Islam, whether they reside in a so-called Islamic country.
Cheer Bear Girl says
Muslims have staked their claim on France. Hopefully the French will have the courage to send these vermin back where they came from.
Reg says
got police dogs? let them disperse the worshippers of lucifer